Zedruu vs Nazahn vs Mogis vs Jori En EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@tgseamus]

So close and yet so far. Consumed by my own greed. It was a dreadful axe-ident.

[@HavocTheWendigo]

Sean Breitenbach I'm just disappointed there was no Thor talking about putting his hammer down lol

[@tgseamus]

William Henry the number of axe and equipment related puns were mercifully edited out. You should all thank MtgMuddstah for that much

[@Sharmarke_Holif]

can we see a karlov conquering your commander?

[@federicocarlucci7973]

I was in the process of building a Sram equipment deck. Do you think Nazahn works better as a commander for the archetype?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Nazahn is basically a Stoneforge mystic in the command zone. He works incredibly well in tandem with the new equipment, Hammer of Nazahn, which does a lot of good stuff for equipment based decks too.

[@ozymandias__]

5:00 "Dictate of Erebos" XD great gameplay

[@MTGMuddstah]

:(

[@Jman1564]

7:06 Equipping Lightning Greaves for free! My Lord, do wonders never cease?

[@MTGMuddstah]

;)

[@matthewlongenbach2466]

Coming back to this after seeing all the progress you've made is crazy I freaking love your videos dude

[@Cosporcos-Q]

You're still the best edh gameplay channel. You deserve more subs

[@badvoodoo2097]

LeoSushi I agree but he needs to leave the cast cards up a little longer

[@maxerickson12]

I've been tuning my own voltron Nazahn deck, excited to see more of that deck!

[@Genxim]

No solemnity to pair with phyrexian unlife ? D:

[@MTGMuddstah]

I hadn't been able to my hands on a copy of the card until recently. I have since added it to the deck =)

[@shadowjeric]

Good I was sitting here screaming why not get solemnity :D LOL

[@kobisjeruk]

Came here just to check, weird to have unlife w/o the combo, what were you banking on otherwise?

[@aviidea3330]

Absolutely loved this gameplay all the decks were sick. Wanna see more Nazan and group slug mogis

[@MTGMuddstah]

I've got a bunch of Nazahn videos. He'll be featured again in Monday's game.

[@The6357Chris]

At the 8:00 mark you did mention that the Mogis player didnt biumce his stuff and that it didn't matter, but it did... thats 4 mana he still has access to. He wouldnt be able to cast two spells. Also, the person who casted rift overloaded shouldve waited for the havoc festival trigger to go on the stack and then cast it. So the mogis player would his life too.

[@Echiko]

You can play cyclonic rift without overload? What? That card is OP af D: And shouldn't Mike lost half of his live on turn 9 thanks to Havoc Festival?

[@primovictorian]

I used to play Zedruu, took it apart because I had another Group Hug that it was too similar too. It's a fun deck, and once you start to draw off her, you get ahead so fast.

[@diegocatano8140]

Nice, New commander! go nazahn

[@Zaalbarjedi]

Just a little note: On 8:35 Sean casts Lightning greaves and equip them onto Nazhan (due to hammer or aid, whatever). And then he casts Sword of the Animists and equip it too. However, both Hammer and Aid lets you equip to TARGET creature you control, which you are unable to do under greaves.

[@tgseamus]

Bohdan Yarema hammer attaches equipment when they enter which gets around it - check earlier comments

[@Zaalbarjedi]

"Whenever Hammer of Nazahn or another Equipment enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach that Equipment to target creature you control." TARGET creature.

[@thof4971]

Do you run Solemnity? If so I feel like tutoring for it there with unlife out might've saved you unless I'm missing something? This was a great game with all sorts of unique strategies. Love the video!

[@MTGMuddstah]

I've wanted to, but I've just never owned the card. I just got my copy the other day from Flipside. I've added it and Decree of Silence!

[@thof4971]

MTG Muddstah It has worked wonders in my Zedruu deck with DoS, Dark Depths, and unlife but mostly just for shutting down the endless number of Atraxa players.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, I'm excited to test it out. I've also got a spicy Dralnu brew coming along. Just waiting for my foil copy of Dralnu in the mail.

[@LaserfaceJones]

MTG Muddstah I tried for like 2 years to get Dralnu to work. He's my favorite legendary creature in my favorite colors, so I just slammed him into my new Mairsil list. Looking forward to seeing how you build him, the last time I got a game in with him he got targeted with a Shivan Meteor (thank God for Neurok Stealthsuit).

[@r.a.w.780]

Cool match! It was a bit much how everyone ganged up on you but you really played it well and survived a lot longer then I thought. I actually thought at the last few minutes you might have won 😇

[@prizum217]

Have you ever thought about playing Zedruu as a Voltron Enchantress deck? There's plenty of old Auras you can bounce for 1 mana, creating a draw engine, and tons of funny enchantments you can use for victory conditions. Not to mention the amount of Auras you can use to phase/blink/revive Zedruu in case of removal. It would be an interesting take on a well known general.

[@nightknight8556]

Could you direct me to the ruling that differentiates between "casting" and "putting" in regards to shroud? I've got some friends that need to be pissed off.

[@willemboele2079]

a card that is casted can't be un-casted, so a when you cast this spell effect can't be countered. but if a spell with an enter the battlefield ability is countered, the effect doesn't happen because it has never entered the battlefield. *put onto the battlefield* doesn't trigger cast effects, because it is not cast. it can also not be countered, because only casted spells can be countered. enter the battlefield effects do still happen, because it entered the battlefield.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Per what I found on MTGSalvation: "Aura only targets when cast as a spell. If it's put into the battlefield by another effect (such as Sun Titan's ability) it doesn't target, and thus it can be attached to creatures with shroud. Another example of ability that can put an Aura onto the battlefield is Zur the Enchanter, and from it's gatherer ruling: 7/15/2006: If you use Zur the Enchanter's triggered ability to search for an Aura, it will be put onto the battlefield attached to an appropriate permanent. It doesn't target that permanent. If no appropriate permanent exists for it to be attached to, that Aura can't be put onto the battlefield and stays in your library."

[@Xartah]

It is one of those really weird and unintuitive rules that everyone probably plays incorrectly until someone tells you about it, usually by ruining your plan by putting it on something with hexproof. Still can't attach it on something with a relevant protection.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, it blew my mind the first time someone did it.

[@Diliale]

Xartah So protection from, say, enchantments or the color of the enchantments does work ? Auras will not get attached to said permanent ?

[@CommanderReplay]

My commander box is still in the mail, but I am really excited to try out Nazahn, I think hes the better GW commander out of the deck. Arahbo seems unfocused and doesnt seem to scale that well from what ive seen.

[@jonathancollins8433]

Thinking of trying sigil of distinction in Nazhan. With good land and artifact ramp it can be cast at good amounts and equip cost is negated by the hammer. Not to mention the mana doublers that come with the pre-con.

[@HowBoutWHYWolf]

im really late to the party but yet again another fun video thanks!

[@1313owner]

Did you ever play the mistveil plains or did it get wheel'd? You could of discarded solitary confinement and put it back on the bottom of your deck if you did have it.

[@tapsin3923]

8:33 Sean got the order of the equipments wrong xD It couldn't have been possible to attach the sword of the animist since he already equipped the lightning greaves giving his creature shroud. I know that feel since I also have a nazahn deck and had to take the greaves off the deck, that's why swiftfoot boots is ten times better for that deck

[@LaserfaceJones]

I built the same kind of Zedruu deck back when my group was full swing into playing EDH. I really just wanted Enduring Ideal to work. Reito Lantern was my way of not getting screwed out of my Solitary if it got bounced/destroyed

[@MTGMuddstah]

It can and does work. I just jumped the gun and didn't think it through. I could have done much better with some cleaner lines of play sadly.

[@grunermrk]

Did the Nazahn player equip greaves then something else after greaves? Or was it a simultaneous trigger?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yes, there was a slight misplay on our parts.

[@grunermrk]

Ah, I see. No big deal, my group has so many misplays it would drive a sane person mad. We just take the game state back or play through. Was just interested to see if I was missing something because watching this Nazahn deck has made me want to play it really badly haha.

[@luizobom123456]

Great video! Do you think that If you had Solemnity (thus not getting any poison counters) in your deck you could won the game ?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I think it would have certainly gave me a fighting chance. It's why I've since added it to my deck.

[@nathones]

Does Mike's Jori En deck run another wincons besides the ones in the video?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I'm not sure really. You can see his deck list in the description section.

[@tgseamus]

nathones Mike likes to win through a combination of infinite combo effects and watching Trevor and I politic ourselves to death

[@ericks131]

I run straight burn spells like Spiraling Embers and Master the Way for the late game, but ideally I chain wheel effects with Alhammarret's Archive and something like Psychosis Crawler or Niv Mizzet on the field. There's also Laboratory Maniac in there. Bulwark can also get crazy if left unchecked.

[@admanios]

Did you have Mistveil Plains? It seems to me you could have discarded Solitary Confinement using the Sanitarium, and then put it on the bottom of your library with Mistveil Plains to get it in play with Enduring Ideal.

[@MTGMuddstah]

I did, but I dumped it early on. There were several less than optimal plays on my part in the game, lol. I was desperately using Geier Reach near the end to find and dump Ulamog just for the graveyard shuffle effect.

[@Boyahda]

Who alters your cards? They look pretty sweet

[@MTGMuddstah]

He posts under the name skywave on the Alter Reddit. I'll see if I can find his email.

[@Boyahda]

Oh you're talking about JB, I knew that style looked familiar.

[@desdichshado5732]

Great vid! Can you please de more Mogis? And maybe Inalla?

[@samb123078]

No solemnity with unlife?

[@aleksandrnice]

8:42 Sean can not equip the sword, because of shroud

[@Iann525]

Could you make a reaper king commander deck teck

[@willemboele2079]

*tech*

[@ScaredHelmet]

Trevor's arms are a 3/3 creature.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

so you didn't have Solemnity in your deck.. because?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Because I didn't own one until this Tuesday past.

[@theingeniousone5141]

Best channel I've seen in a long time

[@MTGMuddstah]

Thank you!

[@mmlgamer]

I like Derevi better as an Enduring Ideal general, even though she draws out even more hate.

[@wiseoldblackman5257]

Can we see a shu yun congering your commander?

[@MTGMuddstah]

He's on the list, just got to find some time to research him =)

[@MrObasiah]

i have a mogis deck similar to the one in the game. but its almost creaturless and is a stax punisher deck. what happens is i lock people out of the game then use punishing cards to slowly torture them to death. its lots of fun and has a few game winning combos. my favorite is repercussion and blasph act. the very first game i played with it, before i had even tweaked it, i locked the other 3 out of the game so badly that they died to mogis upkeep damage.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, people like to build him as a SUPER punishing deck.

[@MrObasiah]

its beautiful, but you have to play it sparingly. ive gotten it to the point where you would lose 8 life just for playing a land. tapping the land would deal damage to them as well. fun deck to pilot, doesnt make friends.

[@JAndrews8957]

just as a side note, at 8:41 when sean is having fun with equipment, he made a misplay, equipped sword of the animist -after- lightning greaves, at which point nazahn has shroud, not allowing him to target nazahn with any further equip abilities

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yep! Someone else pointed that out as well. We'll definitely be watching for it as of this video.

[@willemboele2079]

where is the mogis decklist?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I'll ask Trevor for it!

[@Jeepod]

We still waiting, there are some nice idea for a mathas deck on that list.

[@tomtodormm94]

still waiting for it

[@skootchk1253]

Can we get the decklist?

[@Tsunamiis]

Dat Zedru deck needs solemnty! no more poisons.

[@ref9dthrowaway68]

5:00 Dictate of The Twin Gods, Not Erebos. Ooph

[@matiasrochaix2234]

I like your zedruu, it's very similar to mine, which is also enchantress. Also if I were you I would cut your hair, you already use a pony tail and you would look more attractive :D

[@austinplaisance4456]

Matias Rochaix this comment got really weird really fast

[@pokeyclawz8727]

Zedruu really doesnt seem to do much for you, have you thought about running narset instead?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Zedruu is very hit or miss, and sadly all of my hits with her tend to be off camera lol.

[@pokeyclawz8727]

I sent this before the end of the video where you explained it lol. I still think it would be better though :P

[@MTGMuddstah]

You might not be wrong, haha! Maybe I'll experiment with her in the future.

[@spike9942]

Am I the only one who noticed the fact that at 8:00 , you lost half of your life with Havoc, but you rounded it down instead of up. So you went to 2 life when you should have went to 3 instead. Thus having 1 life left after the damage from fevered vision.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good eye! I'll watch for that in the future though!

[@emilviuff2514]

He equipped sword of the animist after lightning greaves? You should have called him on that, redundant as it may be :P It's a bad habit to have.

[@andreasorphanou5469]

The big guy oopsed

[@raimundkeller6115]

@MTG Muddstah: I really like your deck, but do not really understand, why zedruu is such a popular commander. There is much power in legendaries in his color and he seems a little bit cheesy. Great enjoyable game tho!

[@MTGMuddstah]

She's a reliable card draw engine and can be political by giving people things that might help them. This can buy me a turn or two to steal out a win.

[@chaotica-game985]

Do you play homeward path with her?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yep!

[@andrewvelazquez8798]

5:01 wrong cars name

[@thelunchlady8276]

Yes, he did say Pinto instead of Mustang.

[@dustinbrown4759]

Why is Trevor so ripped

[@lachlanjones962]

dictate of erebos? you mean the twin gods, right?...

[@Ravenouspanda21]

Equipping sword of the animist after lightning greaves? Not a legal play when you have to target the creature...

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yep. We missed that as a few people have pointed out.

[@CeltiesSin]

Trevor does most of the early damage; target zedruu. Man I love politics -_-

[@TheHobbsicle]

lol right? in my group I would have been killed asap for playing the cards Trevor did.

[@noden1739]

Dictate of erebos? Lol

[@dielabtec7882]

to be fair zedru is not really a target