Sad they missed the Hour killing Ugin, would have changed the course of the game
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
Correct! I should have asked to read the card. Sorry!
@fakename80303 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah Everyone makes a mistake sometimes (:
@jimpassaro3 жыл бұрын
I think they called the flavor judge and ruled that Ugin is ineffable to Nicol Bolas' tactics
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
@@jimpassaro Haha!
@bransclan63183 жыл бұрын
Also the draw effect from the cards ugin created entering the battlefield off of Kadena. she does read whenever a face down card etb draw therefore the spirits ugin creates triggers her as well
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Actually, in this one scenario, maybe Derek SHOULDN'T have voted money for Expropriate. That would've allowed him to keep Mogis, and Andrew would've lost at the upkeep of the second extra turn unless he removed Mogis or sacrificed creatures.
@zerowolf0006 Жыл бұрын
Ya he’s life total was low should have let him just slowly die to the trigger or just let him sack some creatures
@yoshiman95213 жыл бұрын
7:41 when a morph creature changes zones you have to reveal it to prove that it was in fact a morph creature.
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Despite being Bolas's brother, Ugin is NOT a Bolas planeswalker. Sorry, Andrew. :P
@AnimeManiacAndres3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the games you record and put out in these times. I can’t get games in lately so its nice to have these to substitute
@phyrexian_dude46453 жыл бұрын
This made me remember a game i played where there were 2 Purphoros, Mogis and i was playing Mayael and jokingly said "boy it would be nice if i play Gisela"... i top decked Gisela that turn and used... it was the most painful non combo upkeep i have seen with 18 damage done.
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
That Mogis deck made me want to experiment with the new mana burn commander, Yurlok.
@zarock613 жыл бұрын
Lol idk how it would work with mogis but def other gods could help
@92bagder3 жыл бұрын
jund group slug
@titanium00023 жыл бұрын
it is fun my friends hate it they tap lan they lose life they dont tap land they lose life
@Eastside973 жыл бұрын
I always love seeing Slimefoot decks. He was my first commander.
@garrett14333 жыл бұрын
Mine was the Rune from the Bant Commander intro deck!
@markstephenhughes3 жыл бұрын
It was fun to build! I tried to keep close the to saproling tribal while still being decent.
@paolomontuschi93033 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Ugin have died from Hour of devastation?
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
Correct! Not sure how we missed it. Sorry about that.
@MTG_Brewzl3 жыл бұрын
I need that mogis list
@crabmtg91793 жыл бұрын
www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3597813#paper Here is the deck list!
@MTG_Brewzl3 жыл бұрын
@@crabmtg9179 thanks
@illbetthisnameisnttaken65983 жыл бұрын
@@crabmtg9179 This isn't the decklist at all.... None of the cards in his opening hand were even in the decklist
@crabmtg91793 жыл бұрын
@@illbetthisnameisnttaken6598 , this deck is almost undefeated and has a similar strategy
@illbetthisnameisnttaken65983 жыл бұрын
@@crabmtg9179 The OP asked for the specific deck list... you did not provide him the specific deck list.
@levithompson11613 жыл бұрын
Looks like Derek missed the extra 6 damage from the taunter, could've killed Chris with it. Not sure if it matters or not since I'm still watching. Edit: Finished the game. Hard to say if it would've changed the outcome. A good game though.
@chihshiangshee90023 жыл бұрын
andrew as well. I think it would have really impacted how the game would have gone about. For example expropriate would never have been cast.
@fredcrinson27153 жыл бұрын
Would love to see that Khadena list! Another great game that I very much enjoyed watching :)
@stevenlorenzo65403 жыл бұрын
Smacked with a $400 Bayou. lol
@markstephenhughes3 жыл бұрын
That's how I roll!
@nikos7313 жыл бұрын
1:52 "...and he casts his less shiny version of Sol Ring" says while we almost cannot see the image of the Sol RIng from the light shining on it.
@TheTakkatakka3 жыл бұрын
Taking 2 - the new MtG EDH variant!
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah... Pharika should've returned to Mark's control when Andrew left the game, because his controlling effect from Expropriate ended.
@solarraine49023 жыл бұрын
That sort of control effect doesn't work like that. That rule effects things like Control Magic or Willbreaker that say "you control [the thing] for as long as Willbreaker is on the field" when the player who has the willbreaker loses, the willbreaker leaves the battlefield first which ends its control of the creature. Things like Expropriate just permanently control the creature and if the person loses the game the stolen creature is exiled.
@nikos7313 жыл бұрын
@@solarraine4902 wrong. 800.4a When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. Translation: Even things like Expropriate let the permanent return to their owners since their effect that gave to the player a permanent ended when the player lost the game. (I play Zedruu so I have to know such rules lol)
@solarraine49023 жыл бұрын
@@nikos731 here is a video that explains this interaction really well kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXXXmJh3r6t7sJI At 44:28 they go over this exact thing.
@nikos7313 жыл бұрын
@@solarraine4902 What does a Moraug landfall ability has anything to do with control effects? Just read the 800.4 rules. They have excellent examples. mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Multiplayer#:~:text=800.4a%20When%20a%20player,those%20objects%20cease%20to%20exist.
@solarraine49023 жыл бұрын
@@nikos731 read my whole comment I gave you the time stamp.
@AP-lf7xd3 жыл бұрын
It was kool to see a slimefoot deck win and after such a slow start.
@markstephenhughes3 жыл бұрын
It was my strategy all along. (/s) Missing all those land drops really helped me fly under the radar.
@NarffetWerlz3 жыл бұрын
I love putting Song of the Dryad on Mogis. "Here, you have a stick now."
@AidanWR3 жыл бұрын
The sol ring may have been less shiny, but it definitely is more glary
@phic77953 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the music sounded so familiar but I realised it's sounds like sam-onella intro song.
@robertbolea23083 жыл бұрын
Andrew. You should have drawn a couple of cards when ugin made spirits token with his plus ability with kadena out.
@parrot66003 жыл бұрын
They're not face down creatures They're spirit tokens with exiled cards bound to them, so it wouldn't trigger Kadena, sadly
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
In order to be a face-down creature, it has to be a CARD. Tokens are not cards, and the cards linked to those Ugin tokens are in exile, not on the battlefield.
@robertbolea23083 жыл бұрын
So if it was a manifest creature it would trigger?
@robertbolea23083 жыл бұрын
I get the ugin activation not triggering kadena now.
@parrot66003 жыл бұрын
@@robertbolea2308 yeah, manifest creatures would trigger Kadena :)
@CensoredHarbor3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Any chance you could post the lists from this game? Maybe I'm just not seeing them in the description. Thanks :)
@ivernedit3 жыл бұрын
Had a game yesterday where the johda player played a turn 5 expropriate. I say money with my obeka and like one enchantment and the guy playing rogue tribal with two creatures and the boros guy with one both say time. I was like what ???? Rogue guy didn’t want Johda getting cards if his sygg river cutthroat so he got 3 turns instead and won.
@Kazz11873 жыл бұрын
Classic 😂😂 at least you could shuffle up quickly if you ended up playing again
@ivernedit3 жыл бұрын
@@Kazz1187 yup, we did. It just boggles my mind though.
@Ninetails1132 жыл бұрын
Derek had inspired me. My friends are gunna HATE this 😂
@Metroidhunter132 жыл бұрын
That mogis deck was utterly brutal. But so good
@devilxreject3 жыл бұрын
Damn really need that Mogis list!
@eyjafjallajokullmyrdalsjok36443 жыл бұрын
Awesome game! Another request for lists!
@marljevincalabia37463 жыл бұрын
What's a wayfarer swordtooth?
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
Mitch's second favorite card!
@BlackenedVoodoo113 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah I was gonna make that joke!
@alexbevan21833 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah 😂 nice!
@davidcardoso35253 жыл бұрын
You had me at Bach.
@BigScienceDP3 жыл бұрын
Where does one get Chris’s playmat?
@Jay4Prez3 жыл бұрын
Any chance we can find the decklists somewhere?
@Kef_093 жыл бұрын
I love to see a Mogis deck, I have one and it is fear amoung my friends.
@raulpacheco74883 жыл бұрын
8:03. Shouldn't Brash Taunter have done additional 6 damage to a player, for his fight with Soul of Ravnica?
@kanvaros44513 жыл бұрын
When’s someone gonna play the tier 0 EDH squirrel deck ! Love the channel I look forward to every new episode and have been working through the back catalogue
@d9_10563 жыл бұрын
Excellent game
@rafaellumrodas3503 жыл бұрын
Man I love seeing Mogis !!!
@Aronamiezer3 жыл бұрын
Derek woke up and chose violence
@BigB07903 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get the multizone mat and sleeves online? I didnt see them on the website in the description
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
I'll ask the shop.
@timod39143 жыл бұрын
Can someone send me his kadena decklist please?
@douglassummers80403 жыл бұрын
I know it doesn't really matter, but playing Bayou then using Nissa's ability to untap it and turn it into a creature would prevent it from attacking because it had summoning sickness since it entered that turn. Obviously he could've used a different land, but that's what I saw. Also, as others stated, Hour of Devastation should've killed Ugin which would've changed the game.
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
Nissa's ability actually gives the land she animates haste, but you are entirely correct about the Ugin play.
@douglassummers80403 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah Oh gotcha, that makes sense then, my bad, never interacted with GB Nissa before.
@MTGMuddstah3 жыл бұрын
@@douglassummers8040 Np! It was my first time seeing her as well. Sadly for the viewers, with the audio cut, you don't hear Mark reading out the abilities the first time he uses them. Sorry!
@TeaHauss3 жыл бұрын
If you're playing mono-blue and you play two basics, you can play an Island and a U-land.
@7someone3 жыл бұрын
Hearing PJs voice reminds me of something, is there any word about getting the EDH lounge back together ?
@Zannathezello3 жыл бұрын
Kadena is probably one of the funniest commander I have ever played, also she's quite powerful. You should really built her. I don't understand why phage is in the deck but I guess that's one of reasons why EDH is so beautiful
@briandear14013 жыл бұрын
He probably has a way to morph her then surprise his opponent by unmorphing her in combat
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
She can be manifested on the battlefield and turned face up by effects like Ixidor's, thus bypassing her ETB trigger.
@EvraeAltana3 жыл бұрын
I have a scenario that needs explained. So I'm using Araumi and I encore Archfiend of Despair against three opponents, no blocks. How much damage is done?
@levithompson11613 жыл бұрын
A metric crap ton. Each trigger would see the life lost from the previous one. So each person takes 6. First trigger resolves, they take another 6. Second resolves, they take another 12. Last resolves, they take another 24. So assuming no blocks or other shenanigans, each opponent takes 48.
@jemolk89453 жыл бұрын
So, each player takes 6, and then there are 3 triggers at end step, 1 per archfiend. The first to resolve sees 6 damage from combat to each opponent, so they each lose 6 more. This makes 12 for the second archfiend trigger, because it sees the life loss from the first archfiend's trigger when it goes to resolve, which in turn makes 24 for the third. Total is 48 life loss to each opponent. It's 6 x 2 x 2 x 2.
@EvraeAltana3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys
@nathanielbrown3693 жыл бұрын
Was kinda hoping to see more sapling. But still fun
@user-dy5fk8ff1v3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter much but remember that lands also have summoning sickness if they become animated guys!!
@nooneknows35203 жыл бұрын
I think they gain Haste.
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Nissa's ability gives it haste as well.
@lushG6783 жыл бұрын
Man, I still haven't seen a morophon deck pop off in any game
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to do it when players choose tribes that don't get much support, like avatars.
@lushG6783 жыл бұрын
@@DarkEinherjar I feel like avatars do have a lot of creatures, like the deuses and stuff like that, problem is that they aren't synergystic they do stuff more for the colors they're in, same with the gods as well, they need devotion but if you're running all different colored gods that's gonna be hard, plus they do things suited to their colors, honestly the best tribes I feel would be elementals or humans
@Zaalbarjedi3 жыл бұрын
When you died, Pharika should've returned under Mark's control, not been exiled, because you gained control of her while she already was on the battlefield.
@solarraine49023 жыл бұрын
That sort of control effect doesn't work like that. That rule effects things like Control Magic or Willbreaker that say "you control [the thing] for as long as Willbreaker is on the field" when the player who has the willbreaker loses, the willbreaker leaves the battlefield first which ends its control of the creature. Things like Expropriate just permanently control the creature and if the person loses the game the stolen creature is exiled.
@Zaalbarjedi3 жыл бұрын
@@solarraine4902 800.4a When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end.
@solarraine49023 жыл бұрын
I misunderstood the rulings of expropriate. My apologies.
@ChaseDoggs3 жыл бұрын
Mogis putting in work!
@duesexistat50163 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Mogis get activated when Pharika did?
@DeliriumTr3mens2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, did you dismantle Kadena? I miss games with that!
@MTGMuddstah2 жыл бұрын
I'd never built Kadena actually. Just found lots of folxs who played her!
@DeliriumTr3mens2 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah Ahh so you borrowed the deck. It's a pity tho!
@MTGMuddstah2 жыл бұрын
@@DeliriumTr3mens Aye, sorry!
@Schiedog3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful slugfest with just the right amount of boardwipes.
@CeilingNinja3 жыл бұрын
Avatar of Woah!
@jeffnorris2113 жыл бұрын
Was that 5 color morophon good stuff? Or was there a theme I missed.
@parrot66003 жыл бұрын
I believe it was Avatar Tribal
@zarock613 жыл бұрын
The 5 color I think can lower the cost of the type of creature it becomes by all color so he would have said avatar and all avatar creatures are cheaper to cast
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Probably avatar tribal, judging from the Progenitus in his opening hand.
@hectormorales40903 жыл бұрын
GG guys!
@chrisbanac72413 жыл бұрын
mah bois slimefoot and mogis hell yeah!
@MyiagrosX273 жыл бұрын
Here are the Mogis and Kadena lists. Both should be up to date. archidekt.com/decks/406232#Kadena archidekt.com/decks/669846#Mogis_Pain_Train
@kylemcgowan13 жыл бұрын
Can I see the slimefoot list?
@erickcruz54393 жыл бұрын
Plz make Kadena she is really good to play with when decks is really good build .
@dellanix3 жыл бұрын
That full art spell Chris cast did not look like a Wrath of God, more like a Day of Judgement. Not much of a difference in this situation though...
@VinceTheCoyote3 жыл бұрын
Tell Derek that I'm going to steal his Seb McKinnon playmat
@quinnquitars3 жыл бұрын
So good
@tReNhEx1003 жыл бұрын
Kadena list??? Pretty please! :)
@kartzzy61013 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to call out the dead ugin but I see it's been said enough
@ЕгорПермяков-т7ю2 жыл бұрын
at 5:24 ugin must be Dead, cause hour hits Planeswalkers too
@markmarktinez783 жыл бұрын
Need the deck list for Kadena!!!
@duesexistat50163 жыл бұрын
Mogis is the most metal card ever printed.
@dr.treyourslovesbudder4766 ай бұрын
Since mogis is the one that deals damage directly. I think derek might have wonnthat from commander dmg
@Fear9103 жыл бұрын
If derek gave you an extra turn with Expropriate you would be forced to take creatures or Mogis would've killed you
@lunarmathemagics78813 жыл бұрын
Nope, mogis only hits opponents
@lunarmathemagics78813 жыл бұрын
Nvm I'm dumb ignore me
@noden17393 жыл бұрын
Hey muddstah how about those decklists lol
@enoeht3 жыл бұрын
A little sad that my boy Mogis was cheated out of a win by an illegal Ugin sticking around when it should have died and some missing damage off the Taunter trigger.
@gabriellalmeida64143 жыл бұрын
mogis list plz
@angellopez64753 жыл бұрын
Didn't Ugin creatures trigger Kadena's draw?
@SistinaChan3 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure on this but I don't think the Ugin token is considered a face-down creature. The card underneath is exiled face-down but the Spirit token doesn't mention face-down creatures anywhere.
@angellopez64753 жыл бұрын
@@SistinaChan oh you are right, the token and the face down are separate things
@davidtuffelli-rail22143 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the first time he activated Ugin, he had already played a morph
@rohanwarrior78663 жыл бұрын
No, because Ugin doesn't actually create a face-down creature. I think that Ugin just exiles the top card face down, but creates a normal 2/2 spirit.
@atherion63823 жыл бұрын
Please tell me how derek got his playmat, I covet it!
@VinceTheCoyote3 жыл бұрын
It's a Seb Mckinnon kickstarter mashup of Dirge of Dread and Rite of Belzenlok. Limited edition and the only one on ebay is for $250.
@atherion63823 жыл бұрын
@@VinceTheCoyote Thank you, I was afraid it would be that one :-D
@dancook61143 жыл бұрын
The fact no one voted for ugin for the councils judgement baffles me
@nikos7313 жыл бұрын
Pharika should have returned to Mark after you lost. At least it didn´t matter in the end.
@hydracollector35883 жыл бұрын
Kadena miss lot of draws with ugin+,kadena,each +1 from ugin put a face down card on play triggering kadena draw ability
@ClassicMagicMan3 жыл бұрын
Ugin Ineffable makes a token that cares about a facedown card in exile. Kadena only draws from facedown cards entering the battlefield. Despite commonly treating the facedown card as the token, they are not the same thing. No draw.
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
In order to be a face-down creature, it has to be a CARD. Tokens are not cards, and the cards linked to those Ugin tokens are in exile, not on the battlefield.
@ElusiveOtter3 жыл бұрын
2:09 You mispronounced “Sword of the Anime”
@alistairdborthwick3 жыл бұрын
Kadena list plz :)
@I8venison3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand board wipes centered decks. Not my style
@jmobley63 жыл бұрын
What is sword of the animist? I only know of a sword of the anime.
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Sword of the Anime needs to give the manga some time to create distance, so we'll have to deal with Sword of the Filler for now.
@lehandroz3 жыл бұрын
It's no longer Sword of the ANIME? xD
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Sword of the Anime needs to give the manga some time to create distance, so we'll have to deal with Sword of the Filler for now.
@MrJokerswild063 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't mogis have died from hour of devastation it removes indestructible
@davidtuffelli-rail22143 жыл бұрын
It wasnt a creature, not enough devotion
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Mogis didn't have enough devotion to be a creature, so Hour of Devastation missed him.
@MrJokerswild063 жыл бұрын
Ty I didn't realize that at the time.
@Mtglilypads3 жыл бұрын
Sword of the animist? What card is tha- Oh. You mean sword of the anime
@DarkEinherjar3 жыл бұрын
Sword of the Anime needs to give the manga some time to create distance, so we'll have to deal with Sword of the Filler for now.