ZEE IS NOT A TROLL // I Was Wrong (Art Rant)

Hey everyone, it's your girl Spooks back at it again with another video on our @ZeeFixesArt!! I have come to some unfortunate revelations the past few days and I wanted to let you all know what is what.
1st Video: • Drawing Thin Character...
SUB: / @spo0ksi

[@Spo0ksi]

ZEE IS REAL!!1!!1112353345 😭😭😭

[@barbiestoes4399]

👁👄👁

[@amandastarfan]

Zee is as real as my imaginary friends

[@atlas8984]

shiver me timbers

[@adriendAyEP]

👀

[@professorberryice2310]

➖👄➖ Chile, let me leave.

[@sentretsparkle]

I remember that one time Zee decided to """fix""" a drawing by CreepShowArt. It was a fullbody of a woman wearing two-piece underwear, I believe. Zee did their whole fattening it up, making it dark-skinned, etc. and proceeded to call creepshow's original drawing ugly and unrealistic. The drawing was a commission. Of a real person. Zee was calling a real person's body ugly and unrealistic. What was that thing about "body-positivity"? Hmm...

[@theandroidsentbycyberlife]

Their*

[@rabbithearted444]

Sentret Sparkle *their we respect pronouns is this house 🏠 even though their annoying but still that is basically what they does as a whole!

[@twinker2000]

who would do such a thing-

[@Ailrent]

@@rabbithearted444 you said to use "their" and then used she for the rest of the sentence 😂 no shade, just pointing it out

[@rabbithearted444]

Ren thank you for pointing it out so I can fix my mistakes 🙃

[@kunological]

Zee should make their own OCs instead of ''fixing'' characters.

[@Deathbyoath]

Ahaha ;-; ya...

[@Awesoemfella]

Or state that they're re-designs that are just meant to be fan-art and not official

[@kunological]

@@Awesoemfella Exactly,MHA fans(I even asked friends who like it)if the way Momo dresses is nessairy for her powers and they said yes

[@kunological]

@Kiki M. sorry I forgot thank you

[@apinchofsalt2574]

@@kunological and her body isn't unrealistic. i have a friend who's 16 and cosplayed her.

[@spinosaurusFan]

I've been thinking... Isn't the "antisexualizing" female characters by making them plus sized, actually shaming plus sized people? Like, it's pretty much implying that they are not attractive.

[@Wren796]

Pretty much, desexualizing them by making them black and bigger is kinda racist and fatphobic in a way by saying these people can't be attractive/sexualized

[@spinosaurusFan]

@@Wren796 exactly

[@adagio.a1115]

jugendfreie Organversache omg zee is a big hypocrite

[@sangonomiyakokomi5764]

@@adagio.a1115 if someone draws Zee's character white they get mad, like bro isn't Zee doing the exact same thing but the opposite?

[@Izzu162]

THIS. And just cos she wanna desexualize a character doesn't mean she has to make them shabby looking.

[@withmymindandmyimagination844]

I'm sorry but females are just born with boobs, having boobs doesn't make you sexualized in any way and neither does the size. I personally come from a family with larger breasts, it's just apart of genes. I don't mind characters like momo because girls can have sizes like that. What does annoy me is the costume they give the character. Go ahead and change the outfit but don't change who the character is. Edit: I see a lot of replies stating that her design is like that because of her quirk which does make sense. I just meant the fan service that comes from her character due to her to quirk and design for that quirk. I know it's a little nitpicky but as a 15 year old it does make me a little uncomfortable when they make those clips and how much skin they showed for her design. But that's just what makes me uncomfortable, I still find her a wonderful character and it doesn't take a way that her quirk is pretty cool. Also I know females aren't born with boobs, they develop and in some cases they don't develop at all. I mean no disrespect by what I said, I hope you all meant my point. As I didn't mean to make people think females are always born with boobs.

[@ariadnehuff6225]

Yeah! Like having large breasts doesn't mean that a person is super sexualized but just giving a character (especially a minor) large breats in order to make them seem sexy is just disgusting, but that doesn't mean that the character having a large chest is the problem it's the way that the character is framed

[@user-ye1qy3ll8j]

I agree, but Momo has clothes like that because of her quirk so it ties into the story and has an actual reason for being apart of her design.

[@peachysai605]

Momo's outfit was designed that way because she needs exposed skin for her power to even work.

[@koilings1856]

Come on though guys, we both know the OTHER REASON WHY her outfit is designed like that.

[@woob9287]

If you think something unintentionally sexual is sexual then you’re the one sexualizing it.

[@rayzephayze6399]

Im sorry WHO thinks dark skin is less “feminine” or “beautiful” than light skin cuz I WILL throw hands

[@VirginiaDowdy777821]

Care if I join you?

[@e2sxp]

I also want to join in throwing hands

[@Toon_Topaz]

Imma throw hands as well

[@dedchanel4002]

Imma use my L4D2 disk as a shuriken just to be sure

[@someonexd482]

Beat her you go for it girl

[@GhostlyX3]

*I might be a furry sure, but addleast I'm not this person...*

[@acethechicken3070]

I love how stupid people unite everyone

[@ivyproductions7097]

The Birb that draws And thank you for being a decent human being.

[@xenomorphbannana4788]

Amen❤️

[@jimmyneutron2329]

its not all furrys its just the ones that dug up my dead hamster and used it as a fleshlight

[@Ramen_Doodles08]

Jimmy Neutron wtf

[@slimebunny5700]

How can someone like that not be trolling, it hurts to see someone actually think the way they do.

[@Starlok007]

All I feel is Pain when I look at this person

[@napdragon2499]

i think they might have some sort of mental issue(s)? i've had a few kids in my school that acted like zee and they went to special classes. just a guess though.

[@lala-kc3br]

Im not even surprised anymore because you know the current situation

[@CypressDahlia]

It's because they are a troll lmao. For the love of christ their Twitter handle is "ZeeFIXESART" ie. they CREATED that ACCOUNT specifically for the purpose of "fixing" art to trigger people. It's in the name.

[@layalsaleh4103]

@@CypressDahlia that doesn't make them a troll, it just means they made their account for the sole purpose of doing something stupid.

[@thekill-ua-.acatboi.415]

I'm surprised but not too surprised. I've seen people like them before. Yikes...

[@samhg3658]

I feel like I saw your pfp before... now that's need fixing >~

[@Kyogei.]

Best pfp ever-

[@no-dc4mn]

I love your pfp

[@user-qv6fg1zr6y]

I’ve seen you before. that cursed picture....

[@PokebellasWussy]

Istg everyone has been commenting about your pfp and I definitely seen it before.

[@alessiacampus945]

It would have been better if they were a troll at this point 😭

[@Lee.M.D]

They

[@taigatanfan_]

BUT FOR REAL THO

[@caramelstars459]

* they

[@alessiacampus945]

@@Lee.M.D ops, my bad! I'm gonna correct it

[@Angela-sp4gg]

Little Mx Duckling The Pikachu Fan stfu

[@phoenixthings]

Zee over here is that one kid who ate grass and crayons in kindergarten *but is still eating grass and crayons*

[@Spo0ksi]

I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD SKSKSKKS THIS DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE BUT I'M VISUALIZING A GROWN ADULT EATING GRASS

[@cursedjade9585]

Moo

[@justpassingby671]

Moo

[@sugarxcanon5197]

Moo

[@RaffiP-od8dj]

LMAO

[@sleepybeepy6019]

I for one love when artists draw fat/chubby characters because I myself am chubby, but Zee doesn't even draw us correctly... overweight people can still look curvy and have appealing bodies, but they seem to think being fat = not being sexy?

[@tombworld9012]

What, you don't have elephant feet and a sausage link for a nose? I'm shocked, shocked to find this out!

[@Dressup_Doll]

Axel Drans ooops. I’ve been drawing dark skinned people with pink line art. Guess that’s horrible

[@epikitee2186]

@@Dressup_Doll whuh? is there something inherently wrong with pink line art? i don't get it.

[@3d_young_joseph]

@@Dressup_Doll ???? Pink lineart doesn't relate to what they were saying LMAO

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

I'm chubby and I hate when people redraw characters as chubby. Have enough respect and draw the character the way it's supposed to be. Unless you're doing it because of a fetish, in which case that's even worse.

[@wyldstallyns__]

what i don’t like about zee’s art is that when they ‘fix’ art they are just promoting the idea that flat chests, darker skin, and plus size bodies aren’t beautiful. i feel their art is honestly sending the opposite message then what they want it to.

[@azuxiv]

I agree. As a girl with fat body and darker skin, literally the audience zee was trying to appeal, their "fixes" hurts

[@sylvia_thelofis]

If they are doing it for fan art with their art style for fun then its fine but if you are trying to say the original is bad then-

[@Mandylol90]

@@saradrawsstuff No one cares about her pronounces, since she wants to be people feel insecure/doesn't like skinny girls and only thinks dark skin is pretty. Like why give respect when you can't? Doesn't make sense

[@alissa4012]

Heyy! I just wanted to explain Krone's character from the Promised Neverland since you haven't seen it (I'm an African American/ black person btw). The pictures you have most likely seen/ the ones you showed are simply exaggerated features for the sake of horror. Otherwise, she looks completely normal in the anime style. She's supposed to be terrifying in those scenes, she's a very crazy and complex character. Also, there are a good amount of black characters in the anime/manga (at least compared to most anime) and they look completely normal and are very cute characters (Phil for instance).

[@kimeris_]

Yeah this exactly.

[@sangonomiyakokomi5764]

qwq

[@sangonomiyakokomi5764]

Phil is baby

[@tomoriinterlude]

@Oof TvT Seychelles is Baby 🥺💗💞

[@bibi_aisu]

@Oof TvT SEYCHELLES CUTE glad they corrected her skin color in later seasons

[@alphebettispaghetti6275]

Ngl I think Zee has macilentophobia, the fear of skinny people.

[@laineydoodles9297]

That's a new phobia. Wow.

[@fellwren9113]

Simple solution. Don't fear people. Hate everyone equally. Get to know them. Then decide if you want to continue to hate them or accept them as an acquaintance or friend. It's easier in the long run.

[@megumiseyelashes6706]

@@fellwren9113 Yesss let's hate everyone and everything equally

[@catiewhite4668]

I'd be a living nightmare for her then I'm pencil thin XD

[@AMan-ct1gu]

How do you even pronounce that word

[@n1nsen666]

Legit had a friend draw me as a ninja... And some dude called her racist because I'm a Latino and Ninjas are "SUPPOSED" to be Asian?? Edit: For anyone still reading this year-old comment, I actually AM Asian... Kind of. (Russia is located in Asia) So that makes the situation funnier-

[@samhg3658]

Is latino a race though? I thought it's supposed to be more like a nationality thing, there's all sorts of races in Latin America, like.. Brasil also have the second largest population of japanese people, for example (first place is japan)

[@aniflowers1998]

Those are low key the same people who call cosplayers "rasist". We should throuw them into the grand canion and see what happens to them. Might be a fun experiment. Maybe they'll create there own weard comunity down there and we can live in peace 🤔 (Edit: fixed a view spelling mistakes I noticed)

[@villanellexx]

@@samhg3658 yes! i'm a brazilian and i see people from every race, there's a lot of black, asian, indigenous, and white as well, in my state we have very cultural neighbourhoods full of asian and some full of german people, they have typical food restaurants and typical events. he probably means he's mestizo/pardo, these are basically mixed people, usually black+indigenous, i am myself and we usually use "latino/latina" to describe this phenotype, since a lot of people worldwide view us as that and there's in fact a lot of mixed people, but you can be latino(a) and be from any other race ofc.

[@n1nsen666]

@@aniflowers1998 I don't remember her name, but there was a Nessa cosplayer who was Asian and had pale skin. She absolutely did AMAZING on the cosplay, however she got legitimate death threats because people thought she was a racist.

[@n1nsen666]

@@villanellexx My mother's side is from Puerto Rico, and my father's side is from Europe.

[@theweirdonesanimations]

Like Michael Jordan said... “Stop it, get some help”

[@taiyonnii]

Preach

[@deltahyo]

knew it

[@Duhgel]

This should be our religion lol. Sign me tf up

[@dontsub3609]

good ol memories

[@yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035]

Fun Fact: That was a McDonald’s don’t do drugs ad

[@retr0nor1c]

Honestly I feel a bit bad for Zee, if they have that way of really thinking they must have taken those ideas from somewhere, I really hope that someday they can have a "redemption arc" or smth¿

[@aniflowers1998]

Sadly impossible in todays age. Even if they would become a completely different person in, for example, 10 years, people would still dig out the old stuff they did and use it to tear them down. Especially when they trie to creat something publicly like a book or a tv show. It's like a curse that soicial media brings upon people.

[@Spo0ksi]

I honestly feel like they will. I can tell Zee is not a bad person, their beliefs are solid, but their execution is all wrong.

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

The problem is that we are on the internet too much and too early. It lets people say dumb stuff when they are too immature to understand what they are saying. Unfortunately, if Zee is ever in a controversy, people will just dig up the past and use it.

[@annanguyen2786]

Ani Flowers hi! Just dropping in to let you know their pronouns are they/them, so please refer to them as such! Have a nice day🤗

[@aniflowers1998]

@@annanguyen2786 ah, sorry about that. I'll fix it

[@adriendAyEP]

I honestly thought she was a troll because of how crappy and lazy her art was.

[@caffastrophe]

They're actually ruining art, and offending a lot of people.

[@samhg3658]

Right!!?

[@Lee.M.D]

They

[@ShadowChromia]

I mean. Art is art. I wouldn't say their art is the problem. They have a lot of potential so like?? Please don't say that their art is crappy?? That's really rude even if they're not the best person. I do not agree we should call ANYONE'S art bad, skilled or not.

[@dazaipleaseloveme__]

@@ShadowChromia I agree with you on that

[@randomfluffkingt.9364]

Not trying to be offensive, but dang that makes it a lot worse- Now there isn’t anything wrong with drawing dark skinned characters, nor plus sized characters, but generally why don’t you just create your own characters instead of hating on others? I know that’s what you practically said, but honestly I 100% agree with you. Also nobodies style can be ugly, it just depends on what you prefer to see in art. Also I really like the pretty drawing you made-

[@Starfire861]

Also, why don’t they draw canonically black characters instead? “Fixing” white characters by making them black doesn’t actually make people appreciate black characters imo.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@BlueBird858 Or, in Mina’s case, pink characters. Aliens are people too. 🧐

[@Styxintheriver]

Racebending characters like that makes it seem like black people are a derivitave of white people, not their own people

[@Akanina_Gacha]

I'll be 100% honest. I would love if some anime girls cast had more diversity in their body type, (Not different skin colour cause... Japan stuff) and I really like some redesigns when a female character has a more original body size. But 'fix' a character design is something different, fixing art is draw something waiting for someone to tell you that is better than the original. Whatever. Nice video. P.S 1: Sorry for my bad writing, my first language is Spanish. P.S 2: Is that the strawberry dress?

[@Spo0ksi]

Yes! And I agree it would be nice to see some diversity so I see where you’re coming from. 💕 Thanks for watching!

[@philemonsayomi8244]

It would be nice for more characters to have the range of skin tones common in Japan, and not just the pale white colorism they all seem to get painted with. Some people in Japan have pretty tanned or naturally darker tones, it's just so many Asian countries have cultures that promote being as pale as possible is the only way to be beautiful.

[@dizzledazzlez8666]

I don't know if I'm reading this wrong but I agree with everything but the skin colors. I'd love to see some Asian characters with different skin colors as well. Not every single Japanese person is fair-skinned and it'd be great to see some broad representation.

[@Akanina_Gacha]

@@dizzledazzlez8666 Well, that's true. I say that about the skin colour cause I think a really dark would be rare to see in that continent. Actually, some animes/games like Danganronpa have character with darker skin. But it would be nice to se more characters with diversity in their skin colour in some animes. I don't think there would be a lot of representation in future animes (aside from LGTB characters) but we can dream

[@samhg3658]

@Meena Mina just like europeans used to promote pale skin, in ancient times it was a sign of "royalty" because you didn't worked under the sun in the fields, so pale skin was considered beautiful and royal

[@Zin1Xx]

Zee: **doesnt want people to be racist** Also Zee: **not only says that they want all white people dead but claims all anime fans are evil, in turn, being discriminatory, and is going against their non-discrimination beliefs**

[@annanguyen2786]

Hi! Just to let you know, their pronouns are they/them so please refer to them as such! Have a nice day!🤗

[@fellwren9113]

I like what you said, but please use the proper pronouns for them

[@Zin1Xx]

i fixed it, thanks for telling me

[@sparkle_stacs]

Anna Nguyen your comments make me loose brain cells

[@howellaboutno9500]

I understand that we should love all body types but like- People will call anything fatphobia, even going as far to call doctors fatphobic, and yes you should love your body but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t aim to be healthier and tell others that they shouldn’t either. Yes, love your body, but be healthy too.

[@Kuriboh1008]

Yes

[@summerthomas2188]

Yes, say it louder for the people in the back!

[@Mokiefraggle]

There's a reason why people call doctors "fatphobic." It's because many doctors (at least in America) often automatically ascribe any health problems to "You're too fat. Lose weight, and it'll go away!" without any actual attention paid to what symptoms the person is reporting. You're automatically unhealthy just because you're overweight, so they don't look for possible reasons *why* you have those symptoms outside of your weight. They also don't look for reasons outside of just poor eating habits for why someone is overweight, causing many medical problems to potentially go unnoticed or even be made worse, particularly when they suggest things like drastic calorie cutting (as in, often down to a quarter of what the human body needs to function daily) in an attempt to get the patient to a "healthy" weight. This also actually affects skinny people, who get written off as being perfectly healthy because they're skinny, which again leads to health concerns getting missed or overlooked because that person is "perfectly healthy" based only on what is effectively a beauty standard. Yes, people should aim to be and stay healthy. However, if your only indicator of "healthy" is "be thinner," you're missing a lot of things. Also, diets are inherently unhealthy and unsustainable, as its been shown that the body will eventually not only rebound to previous weights, but also will tend to gain more weight and retain fat more easily as a result. Also, the effects of dieting are actually pretty unpleasant to endure, as you're constantly in a mild state of starvation (the ~2000 calories/day thing is a minimum of what the body needs to function, not a maximum), and thus suffer the effects thereof. I can tell you from personal experience that dropping even a relatively small amount of weight via calorie restriction left me constantly exhausted, constantly cold, suffering chronic severe headaches, and usually unable to focus well. It also didn't last long, as the moment I went from a relatively calm situation to a higher stress environment, I found myself gaining the weight back and then some in a relatively quick time frame.

[@howellaboutno9500]

@@Mokiefraggle That’s all nice and dandy but I’m talking about doctors like Doctor Mike on KZbin who aren’t like that. Yes, you’re correct, but a lot of people fall into the stereotype that if someone explains the health effects of being overweight, they are fatphobic.

[@colorbar.s]

yeah those two things are... not the same. a LOT of doctors are fatphobic. that's what they're taught and that's what they believe. Too many plus size people are denied proper medical care because their doctors just brush it off as "go lose weight" and not looking into the actual issue. People have died from this. It's a huge issue the great majority of plus size people have had to go through.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

If people think that having an ideal feminine figure is all it takes to be labelled "sexualised" then they're missing the mark. You can have a character with that kind of physique but be completely serious and not "fanservicey" in any way. Yaoyorozu from MHA isn't sexualised because of her body, she's sexualised because of 1) her hero costume and 2) Mineta the perv constantly drawing attention to it. I do wish Yaomomo had a different costume, thanks to Mirio we know its possible to make clothing using someone's hair to make it mimic the properties of their Quirk, which could allow the objects to pass through the fabric. Plus there are ways to keep her costume practical for her Quirk without it not only leaving her very vulnerable but also highly sexualised. Just a quick google search will give you dozens of good redesigns that still fit the character well while also being practical.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

@Axel Drans Very true. Sorry, when I said "fanservicey" I was trying to say like only being sexy for the sake of appealing to a male demographic, for example Oda has stated before in an interview he only draws women like Nami and Robin in a sexy way is for the enjoyment of his male audience. Fanservice is fine if its just 1 part of the character. Like in Fire Force there's a character who has something called Lucky Lecher Syndrome where she constantly gets into very sexual situations, usually ending up in just her bra and underwear. Despite this, its not played as just fan service but also for comedy, and the character actually has depth and a purpose in the story. I'm pretty sure the author has even said they make everyone, male and female, ridiculously sexy just to make jokes and have fun.

[@dreamofjean]

Never had an issue with sister crone from promised Neverland, all the characters have a look to them. Some of them are goofy, If you're going to say it's racist I personally don't think it is. Black or African American women typically have curly beautiful hair. Some of them like it in dreadlocks, some of them like to have it flowy and out in the wind. As for Crone her character isn't racist, I mean watch the show before you start getting critical about it. Edit: Thanks for the support but I must say a few more things because I feel like I have more to add. It's not just about the hair or her lips or anything. African American or Black people have this look to them and it's beautiful, you should be allowed to draw that on people.(not saying this applied to all black people but it's common) many many many times in the show you see creepy or weird angles of the characters like Isabelle, she looks creepy at times and can be extremely terrifying like Crone can be. Hell even Emma (one of the cutie pies in the story) has her moments, when speaking with Ray and Norman. It's a scary show and this will happen from time to time.

[@shishkebab0.0]

👌Thank you for saying this I feel like this needed to be addressed... I think sister crone is actually a pretty interesting character!

[@samhg3658]

@@shishkebab0.0 she's actually one of the most enjoyable characters, in my opinion

[@rektblitz5443]

I feel like she’s one of the best written characters from the show. Coming from a black person.

[@neru1584]

Crone is cool :D

[@ange4154]

Possible spoilers ahead idk if everyone watched/read it to the end Honestly the people who have an issue with Krone sound like they're trying to be angry for no reason. Their arguments are that her character design and traits scream something from a racist ad from the 50s, but all she has is common black traits and trauma. It's like they didn't pay attention to her, or her death scene where they literally play out the more important parts of her life for everyone to see. Yes her design seems a bit too exaggerated, but it's far from racist.

[@admnov93]

I get it that Zee wanted more chubby and poc representation. But isn't the correct way to do it turning already establish characters into poc and chubby of that character and say it that "fixed" Just make their own characters and make a webcomic about them... Problem solve

[@calliopeblue2303]

Just sayin some people done like the term “people of colour” they find it slightly insulting so you may want to consider saying African/Asian or just black/brown

[@kateatsacookie]

There not a troll- that makes this so much more stupid omg 😳

[@NameName-yj7lp]

It hurts so much

[@Starlok007]

Pain

[@luvme7176]

they*

[@MrJewelBox]

they're**

[@Lee.M.D]

They're* please respect their pronouns ✌️

[@phoenixthings]

Zee is the kind of person who would call people racist if they preferred vanilla ice cream over chocolate ice cream.

[@shutuptravis5609]

People are mad about this but zee genuinely just being like this is wayyy more hilarious in my opinion

[@rosecolouredworld]

i dont understand ur comment i feel so dumb

[@LeonBeSimping]

@@rosecolouredworld idk heres a internet translation: "zee doing this because they think it helps is funnier than zee doing this for views"

[@rosecolouredworld]

@@LeonBeSimping wow i feel like im having a stroke

[@cz5629]

Name checks out kinda

[@twingaming2609]

she looks like the girl from my school that screams "equality" on top of her table, and thinks she fixed everything

[@samhg3658]

I feel sorry that you share the same school with someone like that

[@whackacole3]

*they

[@twingaming2609]

@@whackacole3 sorry, I forgot they go by these pronouns

[@Mandylol90]

@@whackacole3 no one cares

[@yoyohanaBR]

Why people think that about Sister Krone from Promised Neverland? Well I'm not into the anime but I finished the manga long ago and Krone character was super cool (she had a good development I love her side-history). The "ugly" faces she make is because PN is a Terror/horror Anime and and distorting her face in some panels was just a tool to convey the feeling of horror that the author wanted to convey. (Not only she had a "ugly" distorcion, other characters are like that too in various panels). I'm particularly not a fan from the early PN design (everbody was ugly and big head lol), I think in the end of the history the mangaka did a better job, but I'm really surprised that people thought Sister Krone desing was racist. (I'm from Brasil, sorry for any error and if what I said sound strange or hard to understand, my English is still improving)

[@princepink]

Black person here. I like krones design a little bit but she gives me a type stereotyping of black people thus the over exaggerated features of big lips her nose is okay though. I just wish they chilled a bit with her design

[@yoyohanaBR]

@@princepink I see, so is more a stereotype problem. Thanks for answering, I see the point now! ^^ Stereotypes can be annoying for sure, sometimes.

[@samhg3658]

BR AEEE

[@yoyohanaBR]

@@samhg3658 AEEEEEE

[@user-ye1qy3ll8j]

@@princepink I don't really think it's really racist or stereotyping. There are black people with big lips and broad noses but in the anime its just exaggerated. In many TV shows features on characters tend to be exaggerated no matter the skin colour. Its not a thing about race really.

[@spaecyy2559]

i fear for the future

[@uwu-yx4nn]

I love your pfp

[@MiracleClover]

Cursed Kakyoin

[@mr.worldwide2205]

Step on me kakyoin ur hips don't lie

[@poppingcat8180]

Fear

[@spaecyy2559]

PRPL AMVs thanks, you too

[@lucyfer9166]

3:11 she just looks like that.Actually her backstory is pretty good in my opinion.And she isn't the only black characters in this anime.

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

what’s her backstory

[@aniflowers1998]

@@Tiger-ks9xp If you don't care about Spoilers, here is what you need to know: She was a child on a human farm. All children there get raised to be killed and fead to some monsters that rule the outside world. The only way to escape that fate is to become a "mom" and work for said monsters in said farms (raising the children till they get shipped off and stuff). Krone decidet to become a mom, left all her friend behind from which she knew they would die, had to go through years of intense schooling and training, had a chip implanted that would kill her if she leaves the farm when she was only 12, had (most likely, it's never directly said) a child that got taken away and put into one of those farms, and ultimately lost her mind while trying to become the best "mom" for a bunch of children that where signed up to be killed. When she finally thought she could reach her goal, it turned out that she had no chance becouse Issabela (the other mom) is a favorite of "grandma" (practically there boss) and Krone was killed trying to defend herselfe. Oh, btw all the things she had to go through are the same things other moms like Isabella had to go through too. It just took a biger tool on her.

[@lucyfer9166]

@Uh Oh yeah I also love Ayshe and Zazie they are my fave :''''''''(

[@lucyfer9166]

@Uh Oh same

[@hydraangaie]

It’s weird how she does fatphobicness, *when she actually hates fatphobic*

[@Izzu162]

^ I want to like this comment tbh but I didn't wanna ruin the 69 likes XD

[@Lk__]

@@Izzu162 same lol

[@starseia]

"fatphobicness" Fatphobia

[@AngelsDoArt]

They're genderfuild doe, so it doesn't matter what pronuns you use

[@anirutha1630]

@@AngelsDoArt in their bio..they've said that they use they/them pronouns

[@alcerdemon9768]

I really wish body positivity was about missing limbs, scars, the weird veiny skin (which name I forgot lol) and not about promoting unhealthy habits, like obesity. Also skin color or tones, are not a thing to fix.

[@Lisa-oz7og]

Exactly

[@coringuwaa3489]

Exactly!

[@lexezlao]

some people are neturally obese like my mom (that's not a joke lol) and yet she still tries to lose weight (emphasis on tries, she's constantly breaking diet) she's not ashamed of being fat, but she also tries not to go overboard

[@enderwalkgang]

It was supposed to be. And used to be. It was plagued by these in people.

[@fuyumi4309]

you cant be "naturally obese" you can be naturally overweight/fat. obesity is way over the line and in a huge majority of cases 100% preventable. the chances that genes even play that big of a role in your weight is slim anyways, so yeah. being obese isnt exactly something to be proud of

[@axo7389]

I honestly respect how you go back a correct yourself

[@emmabauer3325]

I honestly love the idea of black Ariel because, as someone who has studied marine biology, mermaids would either be pale and chubby to withstand deep waters with high pressure and little sunlight, or skinny and with dark skin for higher waters with lots of sun exposure :)

[@Limacinablues]

Like Mermistra from She-Ra (2018 reboot)

[@sarahhiversoeur3759]

But this is a reboot of a good Disney movie and it not going to be better it's just going to murder it for money and getting rid of the original movie's purpose of its own different style of a Danish Fairytale that everyone can actually enjoy! Do I care if they making Ariel is black, yes because they not just going on blackwashing ginger characters train but they're completely ignoring that they have Princess Tiana making every little to no sense or reason!

[@doro5026]

@@sarahhiversoeur3759 You think Disney gives two shits about Tiana? She's only used when they need all the princesses together like in Sofia the First or Wreck It Ralph 2, if they actually cared about POC representation they wouldn't make one off movies like Mulan and Moana with good plots, greenlight shitty shows like Tangled and just not show them off like "see ungrateful people!!1??11! we have representation, now stop asking us to stop making reboots and completely butchering their cultures >:("

[@emilyi5814]

(long rant) honestly, in my opinion as a fellow artist, i think it's admirable and 'fun' to do art in your own style since it can give a sense of exposure to different artists about different styles, and it can be cute. i don't think zee's art is bad, some of it is honestly pretty cute to me. i just think that if someone were to change the race or weight of a character for the sole purpose of basically the 'do this in your style' or whatever, it's considerably not that bad! it gives a sense of diversity and how the individual characters can change/differ when their overall style is change. but, if someone were to change the entirity of a character, change their race (blackwash, whitewash, etc) and their weight and call it *fixing* is just disrespectful to the original artist and it's pretty much saying their (zee's) art style is superior to all other versions of that character. as she redraws a lot of characters from animes, blackwashes them and makes them considerably 'big', and says she's "fixing" them, i don't think she truly understands that these are asian characters and that a lot of asian women look like that. take her redraw of momo from bnha/mha, for example. unsurprisingly enough, a lot of japanese women have a similar bodytype to momo, yet she calls it 'sexualizing'. if she actually watched the anime, she'd understand that momo needs her skin exposed in order to use her quirk. not to mention that heroes should mantain a healthy body mass, and girls in japan (who are skinny enough as it is) just keep on wanting to get slimmer and slimmer. it's not very normal seeing obese/big japanese (specifically women) people. i think the main thing is is that zee generally thinks there's one body type that (from what i see her saying n shit) is the normal/correct body type; big, black and hairy. it's not like every person in anime has to be big or black. again, a lot of redraws she does is of anime characters, and they're based off of women in japan, where they're very small, very skinny, pale and mostly clean shaven (note; because zee usually draws them with a lot of leg hair). that's the "norm" for women in japan. it's not sexual, it's not racist, it's not fatphobic, it's normal. thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[@alphebettispaghetti6275]

Yes! Thank you for pointing this out, it frustrates me so much that people think that it's always sexualising women when in reality it's just what women in Japan, which is where anime orginates from, look like. Of course Japanese women arent going to be big, black or hairy because thats not what they look like, besides a very small minority.

[@samhg3658]

I think you summarized the situation really well. I don't disagree with anything _almost_ .. like... I've never saw a Japanese girl with huuge tits, that are not implants (people were comparing characters like Uzaki chan to a famous japanese p0rn actor, when I searched her up to see for myself what the fuz was about, I actually found a old photo of her where she didn't had enormous boobs, so I think she had implants)

[@emilyi5814]

@@samhg3658 yeah, i understand that. most anime isn't meant to be realistic as it's still cartoony style. most of it is just exaggeration of real life for the purpose of being attractive to the audience and pleasing to the eyes. still, lot's of anime characters are based off of women in japanese culture and is mostly just going off of beauty standards of their country, which, in my opinion, is totally fine.

[@samhg3658]

@@emilyi5814 yes, it is supposed to be "attractive" (although it is weird that momo in particular is 16.. like, all adult heroes that are sexualized are fine) and exagerated. I still don't get why people care so much, but at the same time I get it. But I don't believe someone is actually getting hurt over anime girls being attractive... like, it's fun to argue about, but there's some people (ahem SJW) that think it's the end of the world like '-'

[@tombworld9012]

@@samhg3658 There are naturally 'Sugoi Dekai' Japanese women with slim bodies. Hit0mi T@naka is the most prominent 46JJ-24-34 example.

[@SimplisticallySimple]

*"Zee is real"* : Well, yes they are alive-

[@Pick_kles]

What if they're a fiction on your imagination?

[@caramelstars459]

* they

[@annanguyen2786]

Hi! Just to let you know, their pronouns are they/them so please refer to them as such! Have a nice day!🤗

[@caramelstars459]

@@Pick_kles *they

[@Kuriboh1008]

@@horses-ass Artificial existence?

[@SurrealKeenan]

about the promised neverland character: I really think you should give the show a shot. It actually has a healthily diverse cast of characters. The character you called a racist caricature (which, from those pics I can see why), is actually a really interesting character with a deep, sympathetic backstory. She also happens to be a villainous genius and is presented as intimidating and untrustworthy so those pictures aren't made to make fun of black people but to show how scary and sinister she is. I don't think that the Japanese are as sensitive to awkward depictions of black people because they don't have the racist disney/warner bros era of animation in their culture.

[@MadameMushroom]

I hate "fixing" characters. If you want diversity, create your own comics. I'm working on one with good rounded and diverse characters, you can just do a page a week if you don't have time. And you don't even have to be good at the start.

[@Starfire861]

Apparently Zee *is* working on a webcomic. At least according to her twitter bio.

[@MadameMushroom]

@@Starfire861 well then why "fix" these characters? It makes no sense.

[@Starfire861]

Pastel Princess Gracie Maybe to drum up attention for her webcomic? They say there’s no such thing as bad publicity, but she’s not cultivating a fan base from what I’ve seen.

[@Kat-ov9du]

Need pro-fat content? Just become a furry--- Speaking as a furry.

[@Starlok007]

E621 taught this to me very well

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

yeah there’s so much bear fursonas out there

[@leefox1327]

they're doing exactly what they hate the most: shaming someone for having a specific body shape.

[@LocalDimwit]

*Bruh that title made my cry harder than when I stub my pinkie toe* Sure they might be serious but that doesn't stop them from *looking* like a joke = _ =

[@samhg3658]

Damn, that roast tho.. beautiful

[@shinyprisma6085]

Ooooooooooooooooooo

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

OHHHHHH

[@aurora_xx6736]

ohHoHHOooo

[@averagenoobie9985]

A skinny girl with naturally Big boobs: exists Zee: Wait, thats Illegal!

[@PM-ov9sg]

Also when you stop and think about it the fact the use the word fix when there race bending a Asian charters is super raciest against Asians.

[@lyl_es9421]

we really dont exists huh...i mean ik there are dark skinned asians but just...why...the characters are fucking POC

[@Whatareevenbirds]

seems like the only existing people are white and black people bye guys i dont exist anymo-

[@kunyoruyo]

"Hmmm sexualizing characters this female characters is problematic and all... so how do I make this drawing of an attractive girl be LESS attractive? I know! I'll make them black and fat" - Zee, probably

[@turkishundelightful5382]

Fat Black, new album coming out 1984

[@L0rdOfThePies]

As a curvy and busty ace gal, the idea that I'm more sexual from my natural bodytype upsets me greatly..its not something i chose! Its gotten so bad it makes me uncomfortable in my body Because of catcallers and _just all this.._ as if im asking to ve sexualised just by my body shape

[@luciferteaparty]

The promiced neverlands isn't racist. The children are of all races Although she does have very exstream expressions She's a good mom

[@Nobody-at-all1562]

"Zee is real!" Gave me 2015 creepypasta vibes and awoke a hidden instinct that scared me for no reason

[@chiknwings2099]

HOW?!? Woahh i never thought they weren’t a troll qwq that’s intresting

[@ackewtful.]

same lmao

[@chiknwings2099]

XD

[@exstellaxoxo6895]

Chiknwing 98 They*

[@chiknwings2099]

AAAAHHH sorry i didn’t mean to put she i know there they i just wasn’t thinking I’ll change it immediately

[@catherinesimps4u]

I downloaded Twitter for this and all her art is okay she just removed the boobs which she is saying that Booth or sexualizing people that boobs are not a sexualizing its for babies not your pleasure

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

boob

[@catherinesimps4u]

@@Tiger-ks9xp I do understand that I spelled something wrong but I was trying to make a point and it does not matter that I spelled something wrong get over it

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

Kirishima Eijiro that’s not what my comment was referring to

[@catherinesimps4u]

@@Tiger-ks9xp then what

[@Tiger-ks9xp]

I just wanted to reply boobs

[@captainsarcasm1567]

I don't like making fun of peoples art, but the way she drew didn't even make appealing characters. They were grotesque, almost blob like body shapes that ruined the characters that were "redrawn"

[@magicmanthegeez330]

Bruh I thought we were past the time of everyone fixing anime character. Why can't people innocently redesign them? For example, me and friend have been making an Interracial Naruto Au and we literally don't take it too seriously. We are like "I wonder how Ino will be as a Lightskin Latina" or "Naruto got that light skin black energy" for fun we don't worship these ideas

[@magicmanthegeez330]

If this person is non POC then they really need to know how to literally draw a DAMN BLACK PERSON. If they are black, then that's shameful how you represent us tbh

[@CookiWolf]

3:06 the character is meant to be unsettling and the character design makes for scary a scary moment in the tag scene probably more

[@codify3145]

Ok....Promised Neverland is probably the most diverse anime I've seen so far...and it's also a horror anime. The villains are supposed to be creepy

[@arte4391]

Yes a think that too, she is even a good villain, i like her looks

[@Gleamiarts]

Damn that's a plot twist

[@notme8652]

"NOW THEY'RE NOT SEXUALIZED AND NOT ATTRACTIVE" *Makes them fat and darker skinned*

[@galuxius1861]

I like how at 3:45 you can see something growing out of her skin, because that's like, her power

[@turkishundelightful5382]

So, her quirk is to make her "Something Growing Out Of Her Skin"bigger?, or just anything in general?

[@bookfish]

Gotta love how she makes all these characters black in the name of "not being racist" and "inclusiveness", while failing to realize that those characters are not white but asian.

[@piranhasz427]

Off topic but the drawing in the video is so good! I love the strawberry dress!

[@nicole.-.3]

I remember the first time I found Zee on Twitter and just like you I thought they were a troll but nope. As an overweight person myself I really hate those drawings Ps: Love your videos and your art is very cute :)

[@AngelDust441]

I watched the promised Neverland and it is good. Krone is terrifying in a good way and although I hated her design she WAS a good character IN A WAY.

[@user-ye1qy3ll8j]

I also loved the promised Neverland but I never really saw anything wrong with her design. It's not necessarily racist because some black people have broad noses and big lips. In the anime its overly exaggerated as most things are in TV programs. Her big lips also added to her creepy smile and expressions, making her creepier in a way.

[@pleasedonthurtme]

I literally love Krone so much

[@samhg3658]

I love her too

[@AngelDust441]

@@user-ye1qy3ll8j yeah I agree i just wish her hair was braided or something. But then when I think about it more it adds to this unhinged unchained mental scarred terror that is allowed to roam free with innocent children

[@AngelDust441]

@@pleasedonthurtme Would it hurt you if I said I agree? XD

[@sarellani]

You're really underrated, I'm glad I found you. I also really like your voice! It's so nice and soothing, thank you for being here!! ^^ I'll be glad to watch you and your channel grow!

[@defaulted9485]

The more I look at Zee's doing, the more I reminded when me and my cousin smeared shit on walls when we were toddlers.

[@threatenedangles]

LMAO I DIDN’T EXPECT THE ENDING 😂

[@sweet_23]

I don't think the art from Promised Neverland was racist. I've read it, and I believe the author exaggerates the art to highlight the events of the story or like when the evil character is explaining their evil plan huehuehue.

[@PlagueDocling]

Im laughing like crazy rn I saw one of these redesigns for a character I know named ellie rose captioned "I drew her but she's no longer sexualized!" but here's the thing the original character is a *stick figure* *how do you think a stick figure is sexualized-*

[@lyl_es9421]

is this related to the henry stickmin fandom?

[@PlagueDocling]

@@lyl_es9421 *yep*

[@TastyTaify]

This may be sound dumb, but I think it's because stick figures are skinny. So, according to their logic: Being skinny = Being sexualized. 🤣🤣

[@PlagueDocling]

@@TastyTaify *sounds bout right to me*

[@j_mushroom2358]

I have an oc that is plus size, if you do not understand what I mean by this, I mean that they are in huge gigantic massive quotation marks fat. I even have other characters who aren’t skinny, this is because I am okay with people who are not considered in shape. These characters are okay with who they are and do not have any problems with the body type/shape they are. I also did this to show representation with body types. But this is not the why to do it, to say you are “unsexualizing” them is racist and hurtful to people who are plus sized. I’m not saying you can’t draw a character plus sized, just don’t label it as that and label it as adding diversity (if the show/anime/movie only has skinny and buff people). Heck even make your own OCs, and then make them plus sized or not inherently skinny. Just don’t do this

[@mannakagamine]

I heard a while ago that the reason that black characters look wonky In japanese animes is bc there is barely no black people In Japan. Yeah they can juts look up some black people and take some for reference. Of course this is what I heard so please don't attack me

[@stellarkirbo]

Well something big happened, their account supposedly got hacked.

[@sylvie_loves_frogs4951]

bro the art on the video is so pretty dude,,, u have so much talent

[@commacommacomm]

If this is your all-time art its very nice :) new subscriber, your voice is pleasing and you aren’t literally just annoying the hell out of me, lol. You’re also very funny, looking forward to watching more of your videos! ^^

[@mon8569]

look what she did to my waifu in my thumbnail. i love you nozomi :,(

[@annanguyen2786]

Hi! Just to let you know, their pronouns are they/them so please refer to them as such! Have a nice day!🤗

[@Mandylol90]

@@annanguyen2786 nope

[@neela444]

Oh god, I still had hope that you say that the title is a joke. {Your channel deserves so much more attention, your Videos are amazing!}

[@fionalexin]

The fact that you came back correcting your though just makes me happy about you,great job!

[@orphic-execution]

your tone throughout this video made me laugh so hard. awesome context spooksi!

[@lune7220]

I find it really annoying that Zee changes characters to make them skinny, coloured or hairy, not that I’m against that, but even though I’m not a professional in character design, I can see how a characters body type, skin colour and chest size often plays a part in their story and culture.

[@Pissshit95]

Agreed.

[@monalover69]

me after 2 seconds of the speedpaint: is this strawberry dress? it indeed is...

[@ShiorikoDesu]

1:25 the girl with purple hair is named Nozomi Tojo. The uniforms at Otonokizaka are complex, it's hard for me to draw them.

[@thedogthatcandraw]

I’ve always found dark skin SO FEMININE and SO BEAUTIFUL!! ❤️ (also I agree with the points you made in this video 😌)

[@quinnmorgan7644]

That Momo drawing haunts my nightmares. small rant (maybe bc I'm 17 and a Momo kinnie, but I digress): Not only is she Asian, but the "fix" is stripping her personality and her reasons for her hero costume. That just makes me irritated. People tend to forget that the kids pick out and design their own costumes. This is especially evident when you think about how ugly Todoroki's first costume was. The kids in my hero academia are training to be heroes, so they're constantly put in athletic situations, meaning that a lot of them are more muscular than anything else. If you watch the show, in like the first 7ish episodes she ends up accidentally destroying her clothes bc she's making something large from her back to protect her friends. She also pulls out weapons from her arms and hands, meaning those have to be exposed. She also creates non-weapon items from her chest. People tend to criticize how she has a book with her at all times, but she can only make things if she understands their molecular makeup. She's one of the most powerful people in the class (she's number one in academics and always ranks in like the top five for combat). She has amazing combat sense, quick thinking, and can put into place successful plans immediately. People diminish her because they say she's sexualized. If you really think about it, those people that only focus on thinking she's sexualized, sexualize her. Hope I made sense. rant over.

[@storywritersdrinkstea551]

I feel like I already kinda knew that they were being for real, I've seen more people than you would like to think, similar to them. Even though I think we can all tell that they don't try their best to redraw characters or 'fix' they put a lot of effort into drawing many characters and being pretty active on social media. Have any of you seen other artists similar to them before?

[@LassieRoad]

I’ve unfortunately seen way too many artists like Zee over on Tumblr. It makes me sad to see the wasted potential these artists had. Like they could be creating their own POC characters, characters that actually show representation and have their own personalities, but instead, they “fix” already existing characters, pushing stereotypes to the max and barely even trying.

[@storywritersdrinkstea551]

@@LassieRoad Yeah, I know. I actually really like their color pallette, they just need to focus on the basics of anatomy and put more effort into their work, than again they might want to make their art their career or get money from it, and if that's the case I think it's fine if they don't want to improve. But yeah, I totally agree with you on them actually making their own Original Characters. Maybe they're just not that creative? Lol!

[@sublimitykun]

Can I ask for the name of the song on the background on the speedpaint?

[@cathuff5802]

I have never watched you before, and I just wanna say your art is very pretty. The way you draw and color eyes is very pretty

[@krissysempaiart1742]

I love this art piece ! And I always love when someone can correct themselves if info changes , its okay to havta go back with new info ! But I think Zee may have good intentions in their head , but lort :^) they seem to be expressing it in a way I could 100% see as trolling .

[@princessatellaluma]

tbh i dont care if you give characters a redesign. it can be a great way to give more personality to a character or get some representation if you really need it but when there's a pattern like this 👀 . i am the first to advocate for outfit changes, body type changes, sexuality headcanons, and race changes or whatever but there is a line like omg. i feel like they don't realize that in their advocating, they are being SUPER harmful, fatphobic, and racist. they are the exact things they hate hahahaha

[@aldranzam3456]

I---okay, it's like saying sexualisation of women is reduced to how they are drawn. Having hot characters isn't the problem, the problem is that men feel entitled to those bodies, and objectify sexuality. Women like seeing other sexy women and feeling sexual, so by covering up those characters you're saying "the way to escape objectification is to stop having a sensuality". A sensual design is okay if there are also more aspects to their personality and design, both for male and female characters.

[@okami-chan9772]

Honestly, if she wanted to "desexulize" a character she should have just give them proper clothing, not changing their bodyweight/type and changing their skin color! It's hypocritically fatphobic and racist, it makes her look like she's literally saying that being fat and/or having darker skin doesn't make you look attractive!

[@Styxintheriver]

I don't like the idea of changing existing white characters to black characters for the idea of representation. Give them their own stories, that represent them better!! It's always been strange to me that people do stuff like that for brownie points, when they could create an original story about a character that was black or queer or plus sized, and give the world something new to enjoy while also creating representation. Writing a story with no idea where it ends will make the beginning not connect well with the rest of the story. Changing a race of a character after they've been something else since forever will only make the story they're in more confusing. Create new black characters, they're their own people, not just derivatives of the white people that already exist. Give them their own stories instead of taking the used-up, hand-me-down stories we're all tired of.

[@isabellab5491]

saying skinny characters is fat phobic is like saying a drawing of a girl and a boy homophobic

[@soulfire8994]

I love your art your amazing and I just love all your commentary it’s so interesting 💕🥺✨keep it up

[@dionysus3963]

Love watching your videos while I draw, you’re good company XD

[@judgmentalanimal]

3:10 Me a The Promised Neverland fan who while doesn’t think Krone’s design is racist it is pretty problematic: *CHUCKLES, I’M IN DANGER*

[@Imamotherfreakingavocado]

I have problems mostly with the ig 'desexualising' art fixes they make. One, having a certain body type doesn't make it sexualised, the clothing their wearing does, if you want to desexualise something, give them different clothes, not a different body shape. And two, isn't it basically saying that poc and overweight people are unattractive? By desexualising characters by making them overweight and poc, your basically saying that overweight and poc can't be sexy/attractive.

[@ashboo_5985]

Your definitely my favorite artist on this platform your art is beautiful and on top of that you give in-depth arguments and talk about important topics and stay calm and collected, you always try to prevent hate whilst criticing the original content. In its simplistic form your an actually decent person who cares about others and has a balanced amount of empathy, which is surprisingly rare on the internet 😊

[@Auwjsunwne]

The speed paint is so satisfying and calming to walk like, that art mad me go 💓💖💞💓💖

[@xenbonzacura5897]

you know, I like seeing characters of all kinds of body types and skin tones (if they make sense for the setting, and don't racebend canon character cause that's a whole other issue), but plus-size white people exist. I am one. (I have breathing issues that make exercising difficult and I stress eat, which, having anxiety, i'm stressed a lot) you don't have to be black to be fat. You *can* be both, yeah, but you don't have to be both to be one or the other

[@odothedoll2657]

Why does every artist do the reverse 🖖🏻 thing

[@lure_9724]

All pain aside, That drawing you made was Super cute ngl 😳

[@velma980]

Very off topic,,, but what's the music you use for the bg and end of ur videos? I rlly wanna know