Zelda Theory - The Goron HISTORY And EVOLUTION

[@Sangoku000]

Minor correction to why gorons don't like humans in Twilight Princess. The main reason is because their leader got turned into a monster by dark magic, so they're just being overly defensive of themselves and too prideful to properly ask for help.

[@zacharoninoodle]

The only reason that the Gorons from TP are hostile towards humans is because their leader has been cursed and they are ashamed, so they shut themselves away from humans and do not allow them to communicate. This is until Link saves their leader and they begin returning to civilization as merchants.

[@drwily]

+Zach Noorman hmm maybe

[@Ed_man_talking9]

+Dr.Wily maybe we Gorons had the ability to gain oxygen beforehand? developed a mythology similar to dragon age dwarfs, the banished Gorons either become merchants, pirates, or ocean floor dwellers. i captain a steel-fashioned ship i call the Dreadnought, and run a band of effective "and admittedly misfit" pirates called "the force of nature" but i believe we pillage in the seas far away from the side where the fabled hero made his odyssey.

[@Power3studios]

+Dr.Wily This is actually true. The game literally says that they prohibited humans from entering because they were too proud, as well as the chaos of such a highly respected goron being corrupted and transformed. However the elder decided that they needed help from the humans, therefore swallowing their pride. There was even dialogue in the game explaining that the gorons cooperated very well in Kakariko Village before the issues on Death Mountain began.

[@tylerjaynes822]

No, not maybe This is said IN THE GAME.

[@bamismyname]

But I thought there was only hylians and you know gorons and rito... Nevermind

[@justGoron]

They did gave an explanation as to why the Goron's in Twilight Princess don't allow the humans in. It's only temporarily. They usually do trading with Kakariko (as you said, they supply the bomb shop) but due to the events that took down when Ganon and Zant took over they stopped allowing acces to death mountain. Darbus got cursed which worried them a lot. They felt like the mountain wasn't safe anymore and wanted to solve these problems themselves, out of self-pride.

[@Rellius]

The Gorons in Twilight Princess do like the humans, but in that time link arrives in goron city they are just stressed because their leader got turned into a giant monster and there are monsters in their mine. After link cleaned the mine they like humans again and also live in Kakariko and Hyrule City.......if they just dont like humans at all, why would they come to Kakariko and Hyrule City ?

[@drwily]

+A Link between Games treu

[@Rellius]

+Dr.Wily treu?

[@cainpain7367]

A Link between Games its cuz Dr willys a fucking moron who constantly contradicts his own theories

[@njfhighlights5355]

@@Rellius treu

[@MissAmy929728]

I love the goron! To Darunia from Daruk, I always liked their friendly and strong aura. When I was little one of my favorite place to go was Goron city for the music and the gorons rolling around. Haha when you said that you understood why people like them I couldn't help but remember why I do as well.

[@ts25679]

I always assumed that they were elemental beings of earth and stone. Therefore in my mind, they don't have to follow life's processes like we do. They are all brothers because they don't produce sexually, and mostly identify as masculine, since the traits they venerate are most often associated with males from other cultures. It's been a while since I played Wind Waker, but unless they actually stated that most of them were extinct the Goron's could still be walking around on the sea floor. Those traders had to come from somewhere.

[@WhoElseButZane]

doesn't the goron under water tell you that gorons straight up don't even breathe?

[@Mr_Chunk]

I thought Coccus where the strongest race

[@sam_lawr24]

Darwin yeah because cuccos can't die and daruk did. In botw I threw them at bokos and watch the swarm attack them 😂

[@nathankemp4007]

Yesh

[@mikauanaki4866]

Gorons can survive underwater. You can find one inside a rock at the bottom of the waterfall pool in Zora's Domain in Twilight Princess who is perfectly fine. There is also a child Goron on Death Mountain in the hot spring who sits with his head under the water and he does not drown.

[@CJSai64]

...........that was in the video.

[@Saben.C-Spoon]

The Gorons don't make Barnes's Bombs. they supply Barnes with the material to MAKE the Bombs.

[@threepoundsofflax8438]

In Majora's Mask Goron Link can't survive in water though.

[@Aladato]

Here's a theory: Maybe the Wind Waker Gorons have a full society at the bottom of the ocean. We'll never know.

[@chanimalice3874]

The Gorons don't hate humans in Twilight Princess, they're just embarrassed that their patriarch was possessed. Hell, you see them in Castle Town. Once Link rescues him they're totally cool with humans visiting them again.

[@willhogan8206]

The Gorons didn't let humans in because their leader had been transformed by the fused shadow and they were protecting the humans although it got out of hand to a full on ban of humans entering the village and Gorons exiting

[@MiguelMitchelMichiel]

In TP the gorons just dont want humans to know that their elder became a monster and got imprisoned in the mines. After you complete the dungeon and defeat the monster form of the goron elder, the gorons will become friendly and everything is okay.

[@carlers9024]

in the defeated timeline maybe volvagia actually did eat all those gorons if link is defeated

[@Lwiis64]

No. By the time Ganon defeats Link (at the end of the game), Volvagia would have been killed already.

[@goldenlotus3598]

L.A.C. Unless link died before that since all that matters in that time is that link dies

[@Lwiis64]

I doubt that Link fell to any other threat other than Ganon. That would be very anticlimactic.

[@goldenlotus3598]

L.A.C. yeah but lmao loads of people had him killed for worse(i liked throwing him off cliffs)

[@Lwiis64]

Golden lotus Well, yeah. lol But as far as story goes, that never happened.

[@monk9816]

I love the Gorons because of the sick moves of mah Boi Darmani over here.

[@denverrthomas]

You know how everyone is talking about the large monster crawling around Death Mountain? What if it's a big goron?

[@intothekey]

Nice video Dr.Wily I can see your video's are vastly improving! Very factual and to the point.

[@drwily]

intothekey thanks :D doing my best

[@oittisallen4057]

Yes I love how Gorons know how to make C-4 and other H.E. (HIGH EXPLOSIVES) And link always has a hookup on these items.

[@Trianull]

If you do Deku, you can talk about how far they have gotten to make a whole palace.

[@whatshappeninganymore2473]

The best brothers in all of video gaming.

[@Ninjaananas]

Why didn't you mention the gorons in Minish Cap?

[@maxweII_demon]

'cause minish cap was one of the worst zelda games.

[@A_Random_Rat]

@@maxweII_demon Stfu you like Sonic, so your taste in games doesn't count.

[@Cosmic-Bear.]

Dude, you skipped the gorons in Minish Cap! Thats the game where we see them first settling down in Hyrule, before that they were travelers with who didnt live in groups like we see in SS.

[@NamlessOctarian]

This video is incorrect. You didn’t mention that the Ocarina Of Time Link held the Master Sword in his left hand. As a Zelda historian you should’ve know this rule!

[@lildromepunch7920]

do a video on zoras plz

[@drwily]

Lildrome Punch maybe i will.... just like this comment and it will give me more reasons to do so

[@Asiangamer114]

Zoras in majora's mask have a temple, the great bay temple it's has a lot if pluming in there (more pluming than the Mario Bros) so I hope a good reason enough or one of.

[@commonwealthrealm]

Lildrome Punch The Zora timeline is f...ed up and much more complicated than the Goron timeline.

[@drwily]

Commonwealth realm yeah treu

[@MalachiPoterGamingKids]

Lildrome Punch Yeah that would be cool. :)

[@thatonekid3890]

gorons are awesome

[@Billyblue98]

4:20 Didn't they just not want pity or help with their Fuzed Shadow problem?

[@ObscureLogo-Phallic]

How do Gorons populate?

[@TheWhiteFoxTruth]

Just a little tidbit I thought I'd share. In Windwaker, if you use the deku leaf on the "Goron" merchants, you will blow off their hats and they will reveal they are, indeed, goron.

[@drwily]

+TheWhiteFoxTruth wow cool did not know that thanks for sharing

[@xxtheeunuchxx264]

Am i the only one who wanted a goron armor in TP? I always thougt the Gorons are the most interesting and cool race in LoZ. I even had the idea of going back to termina in a new game, just because i wanted to play as a goron again. Sad thing they had to put up with so much shit in 2 timelines

[@TickedOffPriest]

Also if you use the deku leaf, you can blow off the traders' hats to reveal them to be gorons. Also, who is to say that they are not populating small areas under water.

[@ninston6460]

😱😱😱😀😀

[@fatherpucci-madeinheaven362]

TickedOff Priest the lost city of gorotlantis

[@kaldooo66]

the theories on Zelda never ends,thats why Zelda is the best game ever

[@MariWakocha]

Theories left to come up with after this video: 1. Why did they evolve getting the ability to breath under water? There has to be a reason for something like that to happen. 2. Where were the gorons in ALTTP? Great video^^

[@drwily]

+MariWakocha great suggestions :) and thanks

[@linknoir78]

Well maybe the Gorons in the Fallen Hero Timeline left Hyrule. After the Ancient War and the Civil war, they didnt want to fight in Wars and lose hundreds of Gorons so they live now on Labrynna/ Holodrum. They didnt want to get involved in wars, cursed by humans and pay for their actions. The same in the Flooded Hyrule Timeline. In the Flooded War the Gorons stayed neutral and didnt helped the Hylians against Ganondorf. After the KIngdom was flooded the remaining Hylians hated the Gorons. If they just helped us Hyrule would be still alive etc. Thats why he didnt shows his face. After Link and Tetra founded New Hyrule Hylians and Gorons started a new partnership and are dealing with sorces from all over the world.

[@mattbrabham6351]

Rossi from a link between worlds has goron traits as well as the goron insignia on his belt which might mean that gorons bred with hylians, maybe

[@grizzlymang1930]

But they most likely don't reproduce sexually and perhaps this person was just raised by gorons? Idk

[@noise3187]

Nice vid Dr.Wily :D do Gerudos next

[@Pika250]

The Gorons were militarized for the Gerudo-Hylian war, which explains the need to pit one of them against Link in a sumo match where if Link wins, he is granted access to the Goron mines, where the Hero's Bow awaits--the same bow wielded by the Hero of Time during Majora's Mask. Unfortunately for the Hero of Twilight, he flat out loses if he's not wearing iron boots, since the Gorons are way too strong. The good news? Mayor Bo is a fan of sumo himself, and he's not quite as strong as his Goron idol, so he's the perfect practice partner. If Bo loses, of course, he yields his prized possession (the aforementioned iron boots) to his challenger.

[@drwily]

True

[@tarandhillon2517]

I came to your channel from m. productions and I'm so glad I found it. When I first heard your accent it sounded so familiar, and then I found out you and vortexxy are both from the Netherlands. It would also be cool to see a theory about the sheikah. There just so much unexplained stuff around them. Keep on making awesome theories!

[@drwily]

doneth hilts awsome funny how that works and thanks alot! :)

[@blank6938]

ur awesome ur my favorite Zelda youtuber keep up the videos

[@imagomonkei]

I propose an alternate explanation for the lack of Gorons. I suggest that they came from Labrynna and first originated there, and several explorers would frequent the land of Hyrule. Through _The Minish Cap_, you can even see an increase in the Goron population, but they don't have a civilization. At some point between _The Minish Cap_ and _Ocarina of Time_, the Gorons discovered the rock sirloin at Dodongo's Cavern, so they colonized Death Mountain. Perhaps they even renovated the old tunnels of the Mogma, who I believe migrated to Holodrum and became the Subrosians.

[@answersclickbaittitles5194]

The only way Gorons have evolved from Skyward Sword onward is the development of nipples.

[@ApplesYTAppleAppleApples]

If you think about it gorons survived the great flood in twilight princess they can breathe underwater forever as you save a gorons and it stays there the rest of the game so most of the gorons are just underwater and for a explanation about link dying in water as a gorons it's just that they probably didn't want link to just be stuck there

[@Lyoko012345]

Actually there are gorons in A Link to The Past. Like the Zora's they became enemies and are those things on death mountain that you can't kill because they turn to stone when you attack them.

[@nozoto]

Okay then. Care to explain why they're winged then? Also, unlike the overall placid Gorons, these franctic creatures can't keep still! Nah, I don't think Gorons were in altp. These foes might have been a source of inspiration though

[@RafaelAndNavid]

Great video, Dr. Wily! You know, I wish you uploaded more often. Meh, keep up the great work

[@drwily]

Im going to try 2 videos a week so stay tuned ;)

[@RafaelAndNavid]

I will! :D

[@twilightprincessloverandma1704]

Great video, as usual.

[@TamakaroMakezai]

you should do all the tribes of Hyrule and their evolution. I would like to see what you come up with.

[@drwily]

I could always do that

[@tylerjaynes822]

The Goron's were too proud to ask for help or anything because their leader was tainted by magic and transformed, says that in the game. Also, Goron's can't swim. So even if they CAN "breathe with their reserves" they still can't swim, so it's possible that Goron's still exist in Wind Waker in vast numbers, but MOST of them are under the waves

[@ZenStarwalker]

Great video, but the Hylian Shield does not dent or get scratches. So I believe it is Mythril (< see what i did there? Mythril instead of Mithril) lmao

[@Kyzoren]

I've always thought that since they're a race of sentient rock people, they don't need to breath at all; Biology, ecology and evolution is something never really touched upon in the Zelda universe... in most games in general... (cough~cough, Monster Hunter) mostly because it doesn't really matter in the long run but it is something I would love to see officially explained for the fun of it.

[@billycoleman737]

Its no that they didn't like humans in Twilight Princess, they just had a problem that the humans couldn't help with. After Link beets the boss and returns the goron to normal, they head back down to the village to help out. I know they didnt hate humans cause how did Barnes have bombs befor if they hated humans. Only Bo had earned their respect

[@kvb98]

Dr.Wily je maakt echt geweldige video's ga zo Door Hoe kwam je op het idee om dit te doen ?

[@drwily]

Na 2 jaar youtube met geen kijkers dacht ik ik ga het goed doen en toen heef het zoon half jaar geduurt om dit te verzinnen en bij te scholen

[@Sly88Frye]

So the Gorons must have evacuated Hyrule in the dark timeline to Labrynna and Holodrum to keep their species alive and in two places.

[@drwily]

+Sly88Frye could be it has been a long time since i made this video :P

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

Could perhaps the rocks that fall over you in LttP be angry Gorons who dont like strangers?

[@drwily]

Could be

[@CJSai64]

Maybe Gorons could always breathe underwater. The reason you die in Majora's Mask as Goron Link in deep water is most likely because he's stuck and thus you wouldn't be able to continue your adventure from that point. Instead of dealing with that harsh reality, the game just respawns you to the place before you took a dip

[@Lwiis64]

Yeah. Maybe the explanation has to do more with gameplay instead of a logical reason.

[@CJSai64]

Yup. You can't count how many times Link falls into bottomless pits only to reappear where he was before with only one heart missing. We're not about to start analyzing Link as some sort of time/space jumper for every time he does that, now are we?

[@Lwiis64]

CJSai#64 Exactly. Sometimes people don't understand that not everything has to make sense in a video game. Another example is how Link carries all his items. There is no logic there. His design would look cluttered and ridiculous with all of his items visible. Is just gameplay convenience.

[@CJSai64]

I've always felt that Link uses a magic pouch to store everything. Like the animated series...yeah the annoying "Excuuuse me" one.

[@Lwiis64]

CJSai#64 Oh god. lol

[@bradylavy9592]

you can find the shield under kakariko gravyard if you don't buy one.

[@deathangellink]

i love your video and i always liked zelda games. could you do a special on all the sword , compare them and all ?

[@drwily]

deathangellink sure why not :)

[@ApplesYTAppleAppleApples]

Fun fact gorons mutiply by carving rocks then calling to the gods to bring it to life

[@jacksolo1011]

i think i know how they can breathe underwater. A goron and a zora got a bit freaky had a baby and the baby got the ability to breathe underwater from what ever parent the trait passed on and so on so forth

[@drwily]

+Jack Solo thats nnot how it works you cant cross breed 2 completly different species ahahaha

[@jacksolo1011]

Eh it was a good theory until you get into the specifics

[@larryshrooms4430]

Wait if Gorons are capable of making explosives then why didn't they do that to take down the giant rock blocking the cavern in Ocarina of time or used their "special crop"?

[@connor1664]

Do one for zoras

[@Antasma1]

If you use tyebleaf on a goron in Wind Waker, you can uncover their hats

[@alexmuniz9286]

There were Gorons in Zelda spirit tracks which was released before skyward sword

[@gamzeemakara9968]

The Gorons in Twilight Princess didnt like humans because they didn't want outsiders. Because their Patriarch, Darbus, Was transformed by the fused shadow into Fyrus, they were concerned over their safety of their tribe. When Link defeated Fyrus (The boss in the Goron mines), The Gorons began to realize that the humans in Karariko village needed help more than they did (Considering humans are far weaker than gorons) and they neglected them in their time of need. That's why there are gorons in the village after Link defeated Fyrus. Not only that, but later on in the game, there is a Goron in Telma's bar, guarding it from beasts and such. The Gorons in Twilight Princess do not hate or dislike humans, they were just ignorant and selfish in the beginning. But they changed their ways after Link helped them.

[@drwily]

+Gamzee Makara treu

[@actualmadscientist]

Gorons are my favourite.

[@madmoblin]

Gorons can't swim but they can live under water, that poor guy is stuck in Zora's Domain for possibly all etrnity. Also the Gorons lost one of their their leaders recently, their govment was in chaos, natraly they didn't want outsiders making things worse.

[@drwily]

Yeah treu and poor goron :(

[@madmoblin]

Dr.Wily IKR

[@SeelSquad]

madmoblin I know this is a really old comment but I felt inclined to add... Midna was able to warp that big hot rock as well as the Bridge of Eldin... can't she take the poor Goron out of the water? 😯

[@nickbrown6939]

Gorons breath on death mountain so they're bodies should have the ability to breath through toxic gases so they should just be able to suck oxygen out of toxic gases and water like how the zoras can breath underwater but yet somehow they can be found in hyrule castle if they are needed.

[@nickbrown6939]

I also want to point out I haven't even started high school :P I'm a sky-N-tizd

[@Tgernos]

or its just a game? no but i love the videos never thaught of this :)

[@djkong2309]

The gorons are my favorite Zelda race. Anyone else?

[@BeatchBall]

Interesting. Have you done one about the zorra's?

[@drwily]

+BeatchBall nope but maybe i wil ;)

[@legendofmine699]

you did forget something the gorons live on a mountain that means the flood can't drown them

[@jacobdavis2967]

Don't forget the rock roasts

[@laurinsgr7799]

You forgot the biggoron from minish cap

[@samreddig8819]

there is a child born in twilight princess who says those gorons don't breathe at all

[@samreddig8819]

child goron not born sorry autocorrect

[@rileyclemons2647]

Gordon's were in phantom hourglass and spirit tracks?

[@dimondtrilogy66games73]

The gorons are all the same race and are the lest evolved ones because they can only bread with other gorons so they Cannot bread and they are already well suited for death mountain and do not need to change

[@bugzygirl2795]

Wow gorons almost went extinct multiple times

[@R1IY2N]

I love the gorons

[@nitrousbrio906]

It explains why they hated humans in zelda twilight princess

[@strawberrymins]

That still doesn’t make sense about the Gordon’s though, they could’ve just gone to dragoon roost island after some of them survived, but they didn’t. Or am I wrong? I’m so confused here now!

[@camron7829]

I’m going to be slightly shocked if nejiron are not related to gorons somehow

[@Aragnam]

Do you have any video about the Deku Scrubs? I'd like to know that.

[@Rose_Wolf_1625-ss5rh]

grons don't like humans because of the fused shadow or is it the mirror of twilight shard I can't remember but after you collect it they are always in kakariko village and hyrule castle town

[@MundosElErizo]

I Need this Channel in Spanish! Well I Understand the english but others doesn't do

[@lonelychimo]

I dont understand the Wind Waker Gorons. Dragon Roost Island is confirmed to be Death Mountain. So how and why did they die/leave. Logically seen gorons should have lived on that island, but instead the only ones living there are the descendants of the zora?

[@markcorpuz8514]

What happen to the subrosian race??

[@MrJtaylor1]

new thumb nail cool

[@gamerboydon8320]

the zora is my favorite race

[@EduardoCeballos953]

Did they breed with humans? so Rosso was born as a descendant of gorons in A link between worlds. Thats a possibility since in a majoras maks minigame a lady tell you that she likes gorons. Or maybe they reproduce like namekians.

[@drwily]

+Eduardo Ceballos im not sure hahaha i found nothing at least

[@zachberg4675]

Does that mean Gorons have gills

[@jimaaxor]

I think you skipped over it, you mentioned some are really big like biggoron, but why can Gorons get so big?

[@drwily]

Fair question, it could be that they are like fish, overall those keep growing there entire life, there is no limit

[@Raphe9000]

Do one on Zoras :P

[@drwily]

+Raphe9000 why not :P

[@Raphe9000]

Dr.Wily Exactly :P OOT: Like the Gorons, the Zoras developed a city where they sell items. Wind Waker: Now, the Zoras are birds. Phantom Hourglass: The Zoras are now big, green, sea monsters that attack Link.

[@Zeldenx]

*cough* what about the goron in snowpeak that killed darmani yes ik he is about the same height as biggoron but still

[@samfigueroa5087]

Wait, what about the Goron that teaches the song to calm down the baby in Majoras Mask? Was it a male or female?

[@acoder1904]

Yayyyyy history

[@wotizlove]

+Dr.Willy 2:10 is there a link to this timetable ? Also the timetable wich is shown confuses the hell out of me lol. Also gotta say I stopped conscole games after TP so yea ......... Why do you say Ocarina of time is later in the timeline, after Skywardswords ? When skywardswords is the latest game ?

[@PurpleKangaroo4]

+Maximilian Kniesel it's the official Zelda time line from the Hyrule Historia book that was created for the Zelda 25th Anniversary. It tells the complete story of the Zelda timeline, such as where each game takes place, and what events happen in between games. The order the games come out in has nothing to do with when they occur story-wise.

[@drwily]

+Maximilian Kniesel because the games ar not in order this is a timeline form nintendo its from hyrule historia which is the cannon timeline

[@wotizlove]

Thanks. Yea after seeing ur video I've been watching these video for like 4 hours xd.... I've found it out by myself :D. Thanks anyways for the quick answer!

[@wotizlove]

Thanks. Yea after seeing ur video I've been watching these video for like 4 hours xd.... I've found it out by myself :D. Thanks anyways for the quick answer!

[@wotizlove]

Thanks. Yea after seeing ur video I've been watching these video for like 4 hours xd.... I've found it out by myself :D. Thanks anyways for the quick answer!

[@bizoitz86]

No Nejirons?

[@1C3CR34M]

Theory time....... Female gorons have facial hair

[@drwily]

...

[@christophercoffman1100]

Couldn't they have always had that ability

[@silverxart8126]

They were keeping the humans saft from harm because the knew they would try to help thet

[@linkopeningachestbackwards4741]

GORONS ARE THE BEST

[@drwily]

+Link Opening a Chest Backwards yessss

[@linkopeningachestbackwards4741]

GORONS

[@johndoesutobexd8110]

That ain't true. The biggest Goron is the one in minish cap, that gives you the mirror shield.