Zero Alcohol Cocktails - That You'll Actually Enjoy - Cocktails After Dark

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

Thank you to everyone who has sent me the dictionary meaning of 'Mock' in Mocktail... I know what the meaning is. But I was referring to the endless mocking that I've heard over the years (often as behind the back whispers, and sometimes as full frontal attacks) of those people who choose for whatever reason to drink mocktails at parties and events. The double entendre of Mocktail is my reference point!

[@OkNoBigDeal]

I'm no scientist but I think you should shake a cocktail with the metal tumbler side down, and the glass portion on top. That way it chills properly etc.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

OK - but when shaking the cocktail the idea is that it move back and forth between the tin and the glass. Spending equal amounts of time in each; so I don't think science would back you up. But maybe someone with a PhD in thermo dynamics could clear this up.

[@boko1231]

Make morse drinks without alkohol and without that bottnen you got from a company that you say were expensive 😊😊😊

[@tetchedistress]

Again, as someone who can't drink alcohol, I am so grateful that you are making these. As for the mock part of the equation, and being mocked for not drinking. I deal with it. I don't go to many parties because of my history. The idea that someone has to imbibe alcohol to attend a function needs to end though. It's a less than adult response to anyone. Thank You again Glen and Jules for being amazing inclusive people. Take care.

[@JimLambier]

I don't drink often and when I'm driving, I don't drink at all. When I'm out with friends, I feel like I'm stuck drinking Diet Coke all night or ordering a Shirley Temple from the kid's menu. I wish more places offered something like this to try.

[@vladtepes97]

"stuck" is the wrong attitude. you get to remain sober, you get to behave like an actual adult, an adult who doesn't have to follow the crowd in order to impress lesser mortals, eg drunkards and other immature beings, like teenagers.

[@Rustyer266]

There should be more options then that if you ask, most of the time they don't stock non alcoholic stuff this is substantially more expensive then real alcohol.

[@rubyirene2500]

@@halfsourlizard9319 Yes, I was going to say the same thing. I've ordered a virgin Pina Colada, or virgin strawberry daiquiri many times. I'm sure almost all mixed drinks can be made virgin.

[@RiamsWorld]

I've tried Seedlip many times in restaurants mixed in their nonalcoholic drinks for a few years and started getting it in stores a couple years ago to really isolate what it was contributing. I don't like it much on its own, but it adds a ton of flavor to various juices. I think Garden is the most interesting one of the bunch. Good to see some more inspiration here. If people want to get chef-fy about nonalcoholic drinks, there's a book by the team behind Alinea called "Zero: a New Approach to nonalcoholic drinks" I bought a few years back with some recipes from their various restaurants. They have all sorts of drinks including a section with many drinks inspired by foods like barbecue, papaya salad, peanut sauce and a variety of techniques (like a few clarified milk punch drinks), etc. It really expands your boundaries of what a nonalcoholic drink can be. It's definitely not for the faint of heart, though. I believe there was a recipe or two that involved Seedlip. I just wanted to share because I know it's such an overlooked area and I hope other people broaden their perspective so we can share our thoughts and creations.

[@Max-dg5gj]

I just don’t understand the point of these, the point of cocktails is to make alcohol taste better there are already many great non alcoholic drinks and all of these drinks don’t need the alcohol substitutes they’re just nice herbal teas

[@graceadeline1990]

@@Max-dg5gj it may be where I’m from but non-alcoholic drinks are limited to juices, tea and fizzy drinks. Sometimes I want a mixed drink that is not something for a child.

[@RiamsWorld]

@@Max-dg5gj I've been to thousands of restaurants. I've been greeted countless times with 10+ page lists of wines, a few pages of cocktail offerings, suggested pairings underneath each menu item(or pairings altogether), and if I ask what is available that's nonalcoholic, the server 4/5 times will tell me "um, we have Coke and Sprite"

[@patricklinkous]

I never took the term mocktail to be making fun of people. It's more like a mock apple pie or mock cherry pie, you're just making a reasonable approximation without a key ingredient.

[@AW-fb8hr]

Think about mockumentary, or mocking someone, usually not an term of endearment.

[@tinawatrous9295]

my thoughts exactly!

[@patricklinkous]

@@AW-fb8hr Yes, I'm familiar with that definition of mock.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

@@kyihsin2917 OK - but my experience differs. For example Julie and I are going to Dry January event next week put on by Bacardi to showcase some of their new alcohol free offerings. The mocking and derision of the idea of mocktails from some of the invited guests on social media has reached a fever pitch, and I'm sure at the event itself it will ramp up even farther.

[@rabidsamfan]

@@GlenAndFriendsCooking oh, dear. Well, more for the sensible people then!

[@Minnesota_Mama_Bear]

I'm with you Glen. No one ever asks for a mocktail in fear of being ridiculed. Which people always make fun. In our area we don't ever hear mocktail anymore. Everyone just says N/A. Short, sweet, to the point and usually missed by listening peers because it's so short. I find it's usually those who have a problem with their alcohol, who belittle. 💚🌞

[@MeMe-Moi]

This is really nice, sir. I enjoy watching the cocktails after dark for the atmosphere and history, but as I do not drink by personal choice it is nice to find a recipe that I could see myself drinking. I do like the info from the usual cocktails after dark episodes, too, as both a history enthusiast and trivia game person. Thanks for another great episode.

[@R4VEFOX]

Love mocktails! Thanks for making these.😀👏

[@rabidsamfan]

These both look great! And judging by your smiles they taste good too.

[@larsen8059]

Interesting...I must be living under a rock because I didn't know about shrub bases! Time to educate myself! Thanks for the links!

[@dm7761]

Love Garden Seedlip.... with Elderflower tonic. Seedlip is now available in Zhers! I find the Garden..has that bite you want.

[@WUStLBear82]

Friends of a friend own a family farm in State College, PA and a while ago started making artisanal packaged goods from produce and fruits they grow, or purchase from other local farms and some market suppliers (for citrus fruits, e. g.). One product they make is bottled shrub in quite a variety of flavors (including exotic things like ginger, lime mint, rhubarb, and strawberry basil) which they sell online as well as to markets and hospitality venues in the Commonwealth and neighboring states. It really is a distinctive and refreshing taste, and they offer recipes for both alcoholic and nonalcoholic cocktails using different shrubs.

[@Mowgi]

Oh, non alcoholic. Finally something I can try 😎

[@Karlhuna]

Love the dry January vids! 17 days deep so far, this series is helping!

[@katgore99]

Lovely

[@reploid123]

great looking cocktails glen

[@robertreigman1335]

On time for the weekend.

[@emppulina]

I saw something like these in an online store the other day. There were at least gin-like and vermuth-like non alcholic (some had under 0,5% of alcohol) substitutes and it made me wonder what they would be like to use. So this was a great video for me.

[@Jon-G]

I'm loving this series Glen! I am just starting to get into the possibilities of these drinks and one thing I can say 100% is I HATE the ones that add capsacin to try to replicate the burn. Oh my god it's horrible to drink something that tastes like liquid smoke added to habanero juice. If anyone reading has brands that don't have that phony burn, I'm all ears. Thanks again!

[@boko1231]

Nice with good alcoholfree drinks do it more🎉 if you want😊

[@erinmcgrathejm4985]

There was a local-ish company that closed during pandemic, that produced a line of Flavored Drinking Vinegars that were outstanding. They were basically vinegar, simple syrup and flavoring, and had flavors like lemongrass, but my absolute favorite one was turmeric. I would make a non-alcoholic shrub with the drinking vinegar and sparkling soda. It’s been a couple of years now, and I miss it so much.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

@@MyFocusVaries Pretty sure you could also follow the links in the description box to our own videos on how to make shrubs.

[@judithnaylor5671]

check out Proxy. They are vinegar based bevvies. They have a monthly subscription service.

[@ludwigvonbuzzthoven]

Very interesting about the apple cider vinegar/shrub. I had a coffee shrub from an indie coffeehouse here in St. Louis a couple of years ago and it wasn’t good at all. It was just way too acidic and overwhelming for me, something akin to a coffee flavored salad dressing.

[@HansMaximum]

Shrubs can be quite overpowering. If I am mixing shrub with seltzer, it's fine. If I'm mixing it in a cocktail, I use it as a sour enhancer. Not a substitute for all the citrus, and it certainly needs more sweet. Basically it's a complex sour ingredient.

[@rabidsamfan]

I have had some fruit and ginger shrubs which were very good, but generally a little goes a long way.

[@OkNoBigDeal]

Was it the Mudhouse? Sounds like something they would do.

[@evelyngrammar]

Love these alcohol free alternatives. Thanks!

[@azimuth4850]

Just what I need!

[@nicolelavigne1700]

These sound interesting. I’d love to see some mocktail recipes that don’t use a. Expensive specialty alcohol substitute, especially since it could be difficult to acquire for some people like those of us who don’t live in the states.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

Just as a gentle reminder - I don't live in the 'States' either, and the product I used is from England and available pretty much worldwide. Doesn't matter what products I use on camera, someone somewhere will have trouble getting them.

[@connie8298]

Very interesting, I didn't even know non-alcoholic "spirits" was a thing! Thank you for the video. (Looking forward to boozy/wet February though)

[@Karlhuna]

Ended up buying a bottle of the Spice 94 and loving it. Glen is there any way to get you more love from Seedlip for sharing?

[@SummonerOrthan]

Mocktails are super cool!

[@znachkiznachki5352]

Don't know if it's available in Canada, but there is a product called "The Pathfinder" that I quite like. It hits more of an amaro note. I haven't tried it with another product like Seedlip - yet.

[@alanbuller3371]

These look great! And, given the recent announcements from Health Canada, very timely.

[@kathrynkabara9861]

Do tell! What did they says?

[@HansMaximum]

@@kathrynkabara9861 basically alcohol is bad. They use to say an average male can consume 15 drinks per week (woman 10). Now it's less than 2.

[@sidb9540]

Glen, when you flying again?? Need more flight videos !!! :P

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

The weather here has been horrible that last 6 weeks or so - with the good days not lining up with my schedule. The winter Arctic air will push in soon and we'll get some more videos made.

[@sidb9540]

@@GlenAndFriendsCooking wow! Winter flying at 5K feet is just about as cool as it gets!!!

[@cocoleexoxo]

House of Love is a brand that makes non alcoholic mocktails. Tbh I have ordered a Shirley Temple and nobody batted an eye. It was my go to non alcoholic drink for awhile now I'm into soda water with a splash of pineapple juice. I hate diet coke (or any diet soda) which seems to be everyone's alternative to an alcoholic drink at a bar.

[@KatBurnsKASHKA]

You should try making one with Finally! It's a new non alc drink made in Ontario (PEC). They're super tasty.

[@kerstinandersson6008]

Love your videos but I've got a wish. Could you please try to make a sugarfree cocktail for all of us that can't have sugar or fruitjuices.

[@shessassy]

Nice - I wasn't expecting to find Seedlip in New Zealand, but a quick search of my local bottle shop website tells me I was wrong! $10/100ml doesn't seem *too* bad.

[@Max-dg5gj]

I think the blossom would be good with gin in the summertime

[@glitchyglitch1235]

2:45 Freshly S Q U O Z E N J U I C E

[@irian42]

I find seedlip and all those non-alcoholic "spirits" strange. Alcoholic spirits are expensive because of all the taxes which non-alcoholics don't have - but the price is often even higher. I really don't get it.

[@irian42]

But this cocktail *does* sound great

[@cheutho]

It's essentially a bunch of extracts and spices/seasonings, which can get expensive. I'm sure they are overpriced even accounting for that, but it's a fairly niche "gourmet" market, which seems to let people get away with a lot.

[@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority]

do any of them start with high octane booze and somehow remove it? That would probably have the same tax burden since it started with alcohol. It's sort of the same thing with Vapes that have 0 tobacco and still count as a "smoking" product for taxation.

[@GizmoFan1]

Always prefer using teas to these kinds of fake spirits. Vastly cheaper and more available, and you can get a lot of interesting flavors in it from weirder stuff like lapsang. Frankly with the kinds of other flavors going on in this I doubt the Seedlip is even adding anything, all the other ingredients are so strong that it’s going to bury what’s just flavored water.

[@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority]

I'd have to go with the spice one.. eggs hurt me now. :(

[@guysevedz3581]

I get nervous over the egg white

[@ptstouring49]

You sound vaccinated.

[@urouroniwa]

I wish there was a better name. I was vegan for a fairly large portion of my life and it bothered me that people assumed I ate "vegan whatever". I ate food. I was just picky about the food I ate :-) I tended to avoid things like "vegan cheese" because it's really a pale shadow of the original. In many ways, I feel the same about non-alcoholic cocktails. Alcohol is just such a better solvent than *anything* else that it's kind of pointless (IMHO) to create alternative versions of classic cocktails. They truly are "mock" cocktails, I think. They are a pale shadow of the original. But just like vegan food, there is no reason you can't make amazing non-alcoholic drinks. Like a cocktail, they can have powerful flavors. You can make them so that you want to sip 100 ml or so over a period of 20 minutes. But I don't think you can get there by emulating any specific alcoholic cocktail. Part of the problem is that non-alcoholic drinks are just more balanced and delicious and so it's hard to stop yourself from necking it in 30 seconds. Even your video today seems to indicate that your drinks suffered from that "problem" :-) My thesis is that we need to rethink and re-engineer a class of non-alcoholic drinks so that it serves the same purpose of a cocktail (relaxed exploration of powerful flavors over an extended period of time), but does it without using alcohol as a solvent. It's a *very* tricky problem!

[@kevlarandchrome]

Mock does not just mean to make fun of, it means to mimic, as in mocking bird; hence "mocktail" (even the spell check recognizes this as a real word) as in to mimic a cocktail.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

Yes - there is the book definition of mocktail... then there is the mocking derision directed at those drinking a mocktail in a social setting. Which only gets worse as the night, and alcohol intake of the mockers gets longer.

[@kevlarandchrome]

@@GlenAndFriendsCooking I've never seen that problem, but then I'm selective about who I allow to spend time around me.

[@annalockwood3021]

Not a fan of the commercially produced products like Seedlip. I've tried several, including Seedlip, and they give me indigestion, who knows why.

[@superstar5123]

imitation alcohol more expensive than actual alcohol

[@pigetstuck]

nitro

[@schnitzelvoncrumb7715]

Well here is a recipe I have no chance in making. I guess I will just give Cocktails After Dark a miss until February! Edit: no 2 recipes.

[@EVMANVSGAS]

Love you glen, but cocktails need alcohol. That is the point.

[@mrswilbert]

The video kept stopping. It's a shame.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

Works fine here - sounds like you have internet troubles.

[@peteknifton6184]

Non alcoholic? Come on Glen! We deserve better!

[@lindar7099]

You had until the egg white….

[@Forevertrue]

So what's the point?

[@ignorethismessage]

I always thought Synthahol was a fun term from Star Trek TNG.