Zero Gods, One Cup!? (It's Not What You Think, Probably) | Talk Heathen: Throwback

[@arifsaleem5467]

A cup didn't create itself, So the universe can't create itself, But the creator of the universe created himself. 😂

[@highwaydaytime7669]

It's always a him isn't it, how big is that infinite dong?

[@capthavic]

It will never cease to amuse me that these people are so incredulous when it comes to natural explanations with physical evidence, but when it comes to God/supernatural (aka MAGIC) they are all in without hesitation.

[@nietzscheII-oz4zj]

brainwashing works

[@feedingravens]

"You believe life popped into existence" - "That is ridiculous. Life cannot pop into existence. Life was SPOKEN into existence" It amazes me that these people believe that when the text is EXACTLY the wording of the Bible, that makes it true, and persuasive, and is an explicit and exhaustive explanation of the process. And for them that terminates ANY further curiosity. There is not more to be known about that topic. I say in the meantime when you believe, the Bible reveals "The Truth" to you, and then you OWN The Truth. When you OWN The Truth, you do not need to KNOW ANYthing about the truth, must not understand anything. Then laziness and incuriosity is a virtue.

[@Inigo_The_Son]

It's crazy that theists insist life cannot come from non-life, when that is literally the christian belief.

[@mikepanick468]

Their godthing created life from nothing. It requires their special spook, not abiogenesis.

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Xians look for gaps in science and plant their god there. Only to have to move their goalposts once science has discovered the truth. It infuriates me how Xians say science doesn’t know X, therefore, I can use the Bible instead of science. But once move to religion, they must express supreme confidence, instead of honest intellectual curiosity.

[@feedingravens]

Kent Hovind screams "Evolutionists think life came from a rock! How crazy is that?" And he believes that God made Adam from dust. Dust is ground rock. It is him believing that we are made of rock. The Bible does NOT mention mention water and carbon, what we are mostly made of, and just to a little amount of other elements. A similar composition as all life.

[@DanielRodriguez-zj5il]

They don't understand they are committing a special pleading fallacy by excluding their god from that logic without justification.

[@clemstevenson]

Special pleading. Christian ad hoc rationalisations, in order to defend unsubstantiated biblical assertions, are vey common. "God can do magic, because I said so" is a childish claim.

[@sjhoneywell6235]

I am so tired of callers who are convinced they are smart and demonstrate that they aren't.

[@highwaydaytime7669]

Then go away convinced they're somehow vindicated because the athletes didn't have a clue what they were talking about

[@mckorr2116]

"Boiling point of X is constant." No, it's not. There are a number of conditions that affect the boiling point of a substance. For example water in Denver boils at a lower temperature than it does in New Orleans because of the elevation difference.

[@highwaydaytime7669]

Don't get them started on the triple point of water!!!

[@highwaydaytime7669]

It's always the same argument. 'I don't understand this, it's really complex and huge and difficult to comprehend therefore God'.

[@lyricduo]

lol. This guy needs to talk to Forrest. Who will respond: “so you’re saying…. Here is a bunch of things I don’t know fuck all about, and they seem complicated. So it must have been just some guy, you know. And he’s a space wizard who can do cool shit and stuff. He even poofed the whole universe out of nothing just for me (aren’t I special?🥰). But watch out…… if you eat shrimp, wear mixed fabrics, or touch yourself at night he’ll come down here and fuck you up!” 🤪😝😝🤗😻👍

[@DiamondPearl]

"Nothing can come from nothing, and things can't just pop into existence... unless god did it!" Boooooring!

[@SurgiusMaximus]

Didn't their gawd magic Adam out of dirt? Life from non life confirmed ? 🤷‍♂

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

No, you see, that dirt was alive and had a consciousness after it was created by gawd!1!!1!11!1!

[@SurgiusMaximus]

@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor yes, the Hebrew Golem spell is real y'all

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

@@SurgiusMaximus The spell that allows you to turn sticks into living snakes is one of my favorites!

[@mikepanick468]

Dirt made of animal droppings, decaying plant matter, insect bodies and other fancy stuff.

[@SurgiusMaximus]

@@mikepanick468 where does it say that exactly? Your opinion? 🤣🤣🤣

[@DJ_Sycottic]

It's crazy what indoctrination can do. Gabriel gives the only 2 ways the universe came into existence and neither were the most plausible.....

[@heiyuall]

Points Refuted A Thousand Times.

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Abiogenesis is absolutely possible. Some organic chemicals can self replicate. That is the beginning of the development of the first cells. It’s not a guess. It’s based on evidence that points towards abiogenesis. And more importantly, there is no evidence that contradicts abiogenesis. Scientists don’t make guesses, they follow evidence & the evidence all points to abiogenesis. And the mechanisms have been well studied, especially in the last few years.

[@marcolorenti9637]

More than possible, I'd say it's pretty obvious.

[@acidicsubstance]

If there HAS to be a universe outside of the universe because it doesn’t make sense otherwise (i assume he means because someyting has to contain this universe), then there would have to be a universe outside that one and outside that one and on and on it goes. It's turtles all the way down.

[@tekbarrier]

I want Christians to show me one example of their God ever speaking something into existence out of nothing. No one has ever done that in human history.

[@Wheres_the_money_lebowski]

You'll get a massive wall of assertions if you ask that

[@Soylent1981]

Where does this application of the biogenesis law come from? It seems to be an application of the law that theists invent themselves ad hoc.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

From his god-addled brain. It popped into existence in his head.

[@donharvey1099]

How do you know that

[@RozzieBass]

When he said show him something that created itself ... you could ask back, how did god come to be.

[@VitoDRF]

The very real third option is that the universe has always existed.

[@Devious_Dave]

Gabriel couldn't get anywhere with his assumptions about 'life' so he then unsubtly switched to asserting his guesses about the emergence of space-time.

[@Smileynb]

Subatomic particles.

[@reim0027]

Exactly. We know things on the quantam level can come into existence without a first cause.

[@Smileynb]

@@reim0027 Not sure I completely believe that. Perhaps we just don't know the cause yet. But there's little use in claiming we know the cause before we do.

[@reim0027]

@@Smileynb I'm referring to "virtual particles". They are fascinating. They form and destroy each other so fast that "technically" they aren't created from nothing since they exist so shortly that the conservation of energy is not violated. What's really cool about them is they contribute to Hawking Radiation and can evaporate black holes.

[@Smileynb]

@@reim0027 I know. I was talking about virtual particle, too. My only doubt was that they had no cause. Them having a short existence doesn't mean that they didn't exist.

[@reim0027]

@@Smileynb That's fair. It could be argued the cause is the quantum field. I'm no physicist, but I find this stuff fascinating.

[@Mosz]

"I am not an apologist.. the bible is 100% true." Oh so you're a very long list of -ists. refreshing when someone is upfront about it.

[@Devious_Dave]

What does Gabriel know of the ubergod which created the Christian god(s)? 😀

[@LuckyBoy-y7h]

There is no creator god that's why I'm a Buddhism because to acknowledge an external source of existence is to deny the concept of Emptiness and No-Self.

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

Auto-correct? Did you mean to write that you are a Buddhist?

[@niblick616]

The word ‘god’ explains nothing. It just introduces more unjustified and irrational complexity.

[@kevinkoch-jj1uj]

All these theists have is the arrogant certitude of their ancient cult. It's as lame an argument as it is just tediously boring.

[@highwaydaytime7669]

It's really does get boring. It's basically the same conversation every episode

[@FreethinkingFoolery]

😅

[@albaniahenry-franklin2829]

Theist and their never ending parade of unsubstantiated assertions and claims that they try to prop up with logical fallacies and falsehoods are pretty comical🤗

[@Jeremy-xu3yu]

Repent of sinful ways and believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. John 3:16, Matthew 4:17, 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV

[@albaniahenry-franklin2829]

Why do you ANGRILY deny the existence of your creator and the one objectively TRUE living God Ülgen!?? You are a willful child of the creator of the cosmos and one objectively TRUE living God Ülgen that wants to live a life of debauched SIN! Your anger toward your divine creator and one objectively TRUE living Ülgen has blinded you to His spiritual perfection and lead you to believe in an evidently nonexistent FALSE "God" and it's ignorant demoniacal cult of idolatrous believers that revere and worship the cross that it's blasphemous equally fictional offspring supposedly died on! Release your anger and accept the warm embrace of your TRUE creator and only God worthy of worship Ülgen. Omnipotent omniscient omnipresent Ülgen is the Way, the TRUTH, and the LIGHT! Merciful Ülgen...all praises to His name....will save you from your sins before it is too late with His everlasting love and grant you unending life in His paradise illuminated by His light of divine perfection. Are you brave enough to accept the one TRUE living God Ülgen's invitation to be renewed in this life and the next enveloped by His divine all encompassing presence?? REPENT! 🤣🤣

[@NinjaPeko22]

No. Read the bible. See that it supports genocide and slavery. Gfys.

[@NinjaPeko22]

No. Read the bible. See that it supports genocide and slavery. Gfys

[@steveyuhas9278]

“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money." Exodus 21:20,21 Great book you got there. 🙄

[@SurgiusMaximus]

No god belief, no sin belief. Cope ✌🤣✌