BMW N54 335i Chinese 17T Hybrid Turbo Install Part 3: Knuckle Damage!

[@overindulgent]

Coming from someone who is planning on upgrading the twins on my n54 by the end of the year I want to say thank you. Plenty of video's and reviews of other branded turbo's but I can't find any good one on the cheaper Chinese or Amazon turbo's. Keep at it and thanks again.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for checking out the vids and commenting, we really appreciate that and we will definitely keep making vids!!!

[@leojaxxon3405]

Instablaster

[@48763405]

LOL should've warned you about the oil and coolant lines in the first video comment. Wiggle + pry flat head at the SAME TIME is the key. And when you install them, wiggle + push down AT SAME TIME is the key (with lubrication). Another thing happened to me was the engine support from the top had the engine tilted toward the passenger side(driver side in your case). try use something to push the engine away against the frame to gain some space on the turbo side.

[@Saavvvv]

Fair play to you, problems are only problems if you give up. A true mechanic finds a solution! Looking forward to seeing the 17t bad boys go on and of course, the turbo noises! The exact same ones on my mates car sound absolutely epic 😁

[@4syth]

When you asked Siri to call David my phone reacted to it and called my old boss, fucking awkward.

[@markhutchens4944]

I had to replace that rear coolant line when I did my inlets and downpipes as it was leaking from the o-ring. After 3 attempts, over 3 nights I finally removed it without breaking it. Hands were cut up like yours, must admit it almost broke me also. Keep up the good work. Always easier re-assembling. Enjoying this series!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Kinda glad I’m not the only one 😂

[@LachysGarage]

Found your channel a week ago and man am I enjoying this series! Keep up the effort.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks dude!!! Have you still got that 92 coupe you were rebuilding?

[@LachysGarage]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Yeah the rebuild was finished! Last inspection scheduled for the end of the month. Next project is a V6 MR2 engine swap 🤪

[@michaelvanzoggel2673]

Balls of steel mate, well done. So much collateral work to get to the point. Keep going, you got this.

[@danielanderson9118]

It’s fun watching you do this build. I’ve done pretty much all the same mods on my 335i. My advice on Chinese turbos would be to make sure the wastegate components are all rock solid. Mine failed within a month (full wastegate rattle) but still boost we’ll.

[@davidrowe2217]

I just put larger turbos on my n54. I bought all new coolant lines but because the turbos were so big, I had to have the rear turbo coolant return line modified. I took it into a place and they cut the rubber out, welded fittings onto the ends and then added a threaded line on. It ended up being cheaper than buying the new line and it gave me more flexibility for fitment and serviceability! Might be something you consider if those Chinese ones give you trouble with fitting the lines. Feel free to message me for more info and pics

[@TrackItYT]

I used to do so many rubbish jobs like this and I’m so glad I stopped and have started to now hand a few over to trusted specialists. Massively sympathise with the frustration experienced here, straining holding heavy things up , aching for days after and getting the oil out of your hands. When my turbos were done all lines also had to be replaced and I still have that oil on the coolant line.

[@llincoln12345]

You have so much patience Andrew 😂 Great video, looking forward to the next one!

[@vtekken1]

Your opening comment is where I am saying to myself now...I'm on the removal steps and it's a pain, needed to remind myself of the light at the end of this tunnel...boost noises haha

[@bigfwopl4873]

Had the exact same problem getting the lines out. Had to use a credit card and plastic trim tool from harbor freight. Single handedly the hardest part of the entire job

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I was not expecting it to be an issue at all, but Jesus Christ.... what a pain in the ass!

[@holeshot895]

Good work, the issue you were having with the coolant lines is common. I had the same issue and is common due to corrosion in the water system, that's why it's easier to pull the motor to avoid shitty situations. Make sure to check the water jacket holes for build up and clean the holes out on the block before installing lines again so you have a clean mounting surface for the o rings. Cheers

[@dolphinfan1493]

When I took my stock turbos off I literally had to rip the lines out pulling the hardest I can. You will break them and I would definitely just get all new ones

[@fohatadri]

My dad bought 335is with DCT today. Got to drive it for an hour or so. Damn, the transmission makes the biggest difference. Simply amazing! Driving my E61 6HP home felt like a slow tank compared to E92 :D

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

The dct is such an amazing gearbox. They make any engine feel so much better. Is your dad gonna modify his 335is at all?

[@milehighboost5521]

Yeah, it’s extremely difficult to get those coolant and oil lines off the turbos. The o-rings seem to always get baked on. Just have to keep trying to pry them out with a long screwdriver. Then when they are out of the turbos you can finally remove the turbos to get the line out of the block which are also baked in.

[@t_z1030]

It's definitely not just you with the coolant lines, I've watched a few videos of people doing the wastegate flapper replacement and they also seem to think those lines are the hard part

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Good to know!!!

[@joshalbon2898]

I've just got my 17t,s on myself. I've had all the same issues as you guys have. Read inlet was a big pain and now ive got water pump and thermostat back on. It seems like the hose that runs from the thermostat to the radiator has to come in at a very tight angle around the chinese 2 inch inlets to push onto the thermostat. I wasn't sure if ive routed something wrong but ive asked a few people and they have said its OK. Enjoying watching your progress

[@DERxTECHNIKER]

I feel your pain mate, got through all this too recently.

[@nickolascain2994]

I feel that lol... I see that music on the TV in the background too. Thats my jam!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah man!!! I might look like I’m 50 but my music tastes suggests otherwise.

[@nickolascain2994]

@@ZeroTo60Tube hahaha hey man never said anything about age. I rock some 80s music too even tho it was before my time. Excited to see how these turbos do. Have you looked at trans build?

[@nickolascain2994]

@@ZeroTo60Tube btw you don't look 50 lol

[@stuartkipp6533]

Hats of to you guys for the perseverance ! I probably would have just hacked them off and put a sprintex on or similar😁

[@rileyralston8051]

Love it well done can’t wait for the next video

[@TheHeretic435]

Aussie DIY'ing an E39 in Bangkok. Can't understand why I'm just finding your channel now, after 4 years of E39ing. Question about removing centre dash vent on E39; I've inspected pics of the units, followed tutorials about sliding credit cards into the corners between vent unit and hole in dash to depress tabs, got a pair of pliers wrapped in a cloth on the fascia, pulled - nothing. It will not budge. Most tutorials just smash the slats and grab and pull - I don't want to break mine, just remount the airflow direction tabs. Remove Factory MID and CD and push from behind? tried that (without depressing tabs) - bugger-all access.

[@neilbroussard3312]

Hey bro, update on mine. Got my turbos out. Left the turbo line at bottom attached to turbos, and unbolted top drain lines once I removed the studs. I went ahead and changed my oil pan gasket since it was leaking. I cracked the front coolant line dropping the subframe. Just fixed it last night. This morning, power steering pump, serpentine belt, intercooler back on. AND torque the oil pan bolts. Then turbos, water pump, engine mount. Imma keep u updated. I wanna have theses 19t's on by tonight!!!!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hell yeah!!!! Good luck dude.... I’m praying the hoses turn up tomorrow.

[@neilbroussard3312]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Yup. My lines are, plus I have a spare set. Gotta pull all the gaskets. Dang intercooler O-Ring is busted. Off to ECS tuning.

[@joshalbon2898]

Have you made any more progress today. Realy wanting to see part 4 lol . I'm hoping to get mine started up for the first time on Monday.

[@Raptorman5174]

Check out upgraded drain lines, I like your videos, I to will probably be doing this job in my garage on jack stands so watching you do it and struggle with certain parts like the feed lines is great content. Also very much looking to the comparison video of the stock turbos vs the Chinese hybrids. Good Luck

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I will check it out

[@brazjhanbarbeau3969]

How much psi do u think I should run on the 19ts. I have all great supporting mods except port

[@Spooly_]

The white is definitely from the e85, have seen similar white residue on other e85 cars across KZbin. E85 is known to react with aluminum and speed up it's corrosion. Usually aluminum forms a tough oxide layer that prevents further oxidization, but it seems ethanol can destroy that oxide layer and allow further corrosion.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for the info all makes sense.

[@supraboy82]

I brought the viv auto parts 17t turbos just yesterday so these videos are amazing and keep it up! Curious? Did you get the turbos check out by anyone local? For balancing or anything?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I didn't. Getting them checked here in Australia would be close to $400 plus freight... Which is like a 1/3 of what they costs. For us down here, its not worth it, you may as well buy a better branded turbo. I wanted to see how long these last. Im not expecting years of life at the boost levels i am planning to run.

[@lazarosminas5000]

Keep up the good work!

[@Trey6unn]

Smartest thing would be to replace all of the oil and coolant pipes. It would suck if they leak after all this work... Seals and gaskets also.

[@paulsimpson8990]

If I was to guess I’d say the white coating or deposits could be from the combustion of the engine oil.

[@bimmertec]

coolant line stock because of not uses original coolant also check it drain pipe properly and clean properly inside because its main this to blow turbo

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for the advice, really appreciate all the help i can get.

[@archtheque5914]

Good grief! You shouldn’ve sing LMFAO’s “Sexy and I know It” and go wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, yeah! I guarantee that oil line will just pop right out LOL! OR fly me from the stateside and I’ll help you out in no time! Joking aside, when I replaced mine with Pure Turbo what I did was using a crescent-shaped pry tool and wedged it way in to pop out the snout. See amazon link for the pry tool I was referring to. The other trick you could’ve use was taking two flathead screw driver, wedge it at 3 and 9 o’ clock position and apply even pressure to pop out the snout. Freakin’ Dave, where was he when you needed him the most? Still washing his short short from the time he soiled it with red bull mix? LOL! Ps: Don’t forget to lube generously with silicone grease when you reinstall all the o-rings on the coolant and oil lines. Don’t EVER shred the new o-rings when reinstalling all the lines. Good Luck! www.amazon.com/dp/B00MJLGD7M/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTFgwTkZKSDdTVk5OJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQ4NDE2QzhQTUpEWFQyVlZXJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3OTkyMjM5TlZKSjZXM01HMjQmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwyJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== www.amazon.com/dp/B07L6F1D6Z/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07L6F1D6Z&pd_rd_w=rIHp2&pf_rd_p=a64be657-55f3-4b6a-91aa-17a31a8febb4&pd_rd_wg=fowy9&pf_rd_r=J5Q5MK0Y9WJJB91KTN4B&pd_rd_r=fa5fc156-2769-4e9d-8493-3ef0eaf55a08&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVjBJMDVFMThXVDdUJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTc0MTg0WUtLTk41UVpDRDVMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNjk4OTIzR1RTUEw4NTlVWUlaJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

[@pulsechainpete3808]

Heavens that looked bloody painful😥

[@bikebird4]

Is there any chance when running the new turbos, you can do a few pulls on standard fuel? What octane do you have ? Not many country’s have e85 :(

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I will have a play with different fuels for sure. I want to run full e85 first then do a full flex tune. So everything from straight 98 up to full e85.

[@brazjhanbarbeau3969]

The guy I have installing my new 19t turbos say that the inlet gasket from charge pipe to inlet is too small to go on the bigger turbos but I can’t find the right size ones anywhere. Can u help please !

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

You need to upgrade the inlets when you run 17t or 19t. They used a 2 inch inlet. There are quite a few aftermarket options for 2 inch inlets.

[@brazjhanbarbeau3969]

@@ZeroTo60Tube does the inlets from the same people who I got the turbos from ? I bought the inlets along with the turbos

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@brazjhanbarbeau3969 ohhh you're sweet then. The inlets go straight on to the turbos. You dont need those gaskets. The factory turbos use them as the original inlets are hard plastic. The silcon inlets seals fine on the turbos.

[@setterlee]

I like your garage, looks like have the perfect size.... can you tell me the dimensions of the structure? thanks a lot!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

It is 6m by 12m, however we only use 3/4 of it for car stuff.

[@turbopickle9720]

Those oil lines are a HUGE pain to get out, it was even difficult for me, WITH THE ENGINE OUT!

[@georgedouglas6268]

Is that 150,000 km or 150,000 miles mines went out at 96,000 miles seems like these uk n54 turbos are far inferior then

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

km

[@sterlo53ify]

Good you for giving it a crack. Looks pretty hectic but worth the end result. It makes me think twice riseing up my boost on my stock turbos up to MDH stage2+. Good to know what I'm up against.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Send it!!! Stockies should be fine at stage 2 levels. Unless they already have a problem and if thats the case... well you may as well find out sooner rather than later and get them upgraded.

[@sterlo53ify]

@@ZeroTo60Tube my turbos are doing good i'm running a similar map to stage1 MDH. i got a professional to upload that software with a crackling tune. I got a high flow catless exhaust system afe n54 335i cold air intake running right now. I'm keen to upgrade my front mount intercooler and charge pipe. I think i will go stage1+ on 98 ron. Its good to see Aussie guys work on e92's 335i bmws. All videos I've been seeing from usa. Keep up the good work guys

[@grantmarks7429]

About to order some eBay 19T turbos myself, how long did yours take to ship? I’m worried I might have to wait months haha

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Mine were 4 days. I couldn't believe it. But that was in March just before so many of the flights started getting cancelled. Expect delays if you order right now i think.

[@grantmarks7429]

Zero To 60 I’m worried about that. On Amazon the projected arrival is in SEPTEMBER! Did you purchase the warranty with yours?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@grantmarks7429 I didn't go for warranty. They are supposed to come with a warranty from the chinese seller, but i took it with a grain of salt. Fingers crossed.

[@chogg123]

Pull the hoses out square. And when installing make sure the oring is lubricated... Put equal pressure and it will click in. Why didn't you guys disconnect the steering rack coming from the firewall...... Its one bolt and gives lots more room.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

To be honest it seemed like there was enough room. If the turbos has come out separately it would have been even easier. I havent even looked at removing the rack any further than it is, so i might check it out now you have mentioned it. I mean it would have been helpful yesterday haha

[@davizzleman]

How often by now do you regret not having pulled the whole engine? :P

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hey, I may have uttered that under my breath a few times today, that’s for sure

[@davizzleman]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I feel your pain. Its the same on my side like 5 out of 3 times choosing between two options taking the worse one.

[@joashprice3115]

Hey guys, installing vrsf catless down pipes on my n54. any advice on getting the o2 sensors back on with the sensor so close to the steering shaft?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hey Man, Have you got the pipes in place yet? My car actually had pretty good clearance around the o2s. I remember changing the front one later on tho. I tightened it with a short adjustable spinner than just opens enough.

[@joashprice3115]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah they are in. But the o2s closest to the turbskies has like 2 to 3 mil clearance from the steering shaft. It also vibrates when idling in 'D'. We think the O2 is vibrating against the steering shaft. They are the version 2 if tge proper vfrs DPs too so thought it would be perfect lol

[@joashprice3115]

@@ZeroTo60Tube also do you need the top o2s in or can you bung them up and just run off of tge bottom o2s?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@joashprice3115 I dont know for certain, but something really doesn't sound right. There was a fair bit of clearance on mine. When i first installed mine, the alignment was a little off and the dps were actually just rubbing on the subframe. I ended up clearancing the gap with a hammer... :| But just check clearance on the subframe at the bottom. My VRSFs were a pain to line up.

[@joashprice3115]

@@ZeroTo60Tube turns out the extra bolt we found (and ignored) was actually an engine mount replacement bolt to provide clearance from mount and subframe lol so hi ho hi ho its back to the down pipes i go 😞😂

[@Faustastico7]

This project is very difficult with the car on the lift

[@hpniemi]

I easily can feel your pain🥵 I really hope China is not letting u down and u don't have to do that again soon

[@nineteen76]

Feel your pain!

[@Al-of3zp]

With all that effort I would of put on some Garrett's or something.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Single turbo is really the best option over the hybrid offerings. But thats big money, 3 or 4 times the cost of this.

[@Al-of3zp]

@@ZeroTo60Tube how much were the Chinese ones?

[@jonathanwishart9104]

Well I can see why they drop the engine now for this job.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yes, yes so can i now.....

[@jonathanwishart9104]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Sometimes you need to just try a job to understand the possible problems you can run into to, experience is definitely the best way to learn.

[@garypankhurst9014]

Should of done single turbo

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

One day, i would love to. Just a bit exxy for me right now.

[@krazykurt980]

Anyone else’s phone try to call David at 7:35? 😂

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Lol sorry about that.....

[@bougie2k]

bloody hell ....drop this shit and put a single big turbo .....

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Dude, if only they were a little more affordable. Hard to get RHD single kits. The last time i saw them offered as a kit, it was 20kAUD. Which is twice what the car cost.

[@Guineapalz]

Lmfao we will make boot noises

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Positive thoughts right? hahaha

[@Guineapalz]

Yes sir I am following you religiously