ZEV OZ9 Pt.2: "YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED"

10/15/2019** Zev finally owned up and did a recall.

[@jm370z6]

Buddy just sent his Oz9 in for going full auto.. just dumped the whole mag.. 2 different times.. "but no problems here"-Zev

[@docotis420666]

Zev is known for going full auto

[@CowBeatsCrow]

That sucks, but I wouldn't complain about havin' a full auto pistol!!

[@docotis420666]

Not Important To You when the Atf comes for a visit you wouldn’t be so happy.

[@CowBeatsCrow]

@@docotis420666 Yes, the long way ends up being the best way

[@youvandal411vm]

I just heard the same thing from them. They said nothing was wrong with it..won't eject casings.

[@ventarfield7115]

The good news is that all the glocks that haven't been modified by zev are still working just fine.

[@PandemicGameplay]

seriously, that gun looks FUGLY. I'm all for custom gun work and such, but their pistols look gross. Definitely not my cup of tea.

[@perchowski3021]

Geez, that's crazy though! Glad nobody got hurt and you were pointing down range like you always should be for exactly this reason! Good review!

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

A word to manufacturers in the era of social media- THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! How many sales has ZEV lost over this ONE lemon? dozens? hundreds? THOUSANDS? Instead of losing what, maybe $500 net cost to replace ONE GUN? Way to go ZEV. I know what I wont be buying, EVER! Thanks for the PSA man!

[@s-48group39]

Got my oz9 runs like a charm

[@rightushook8700]

I get what you're saying, however customers aren't always right. This idea has to lead to a major increase in people treating employees like shit, taking advantage of company's solely because the customer is "always right". Some customers are wrong, and companies shouldnt have to wait hand and foot on assholes lest they fear backlash for standing up for themselves. Also, just to clarify I'm not stating that in this instant that he's a an asshole, he isn't. The company should do what's right and take care of him.

[@christ7009]

Suicidearm! Thanks for being transparent with us Sean.

[@hexmangoes7863]

So this was 3 years ago, has this issue come up since?

[@davidwarren719]

This demonstrates the care you have for your fellow man. You deserve a lot of thanks for going out of your way and out of your pocket to bring this to people’s attention.

[@willlowery84]

Wait a couple years, let Ian do a video for Forgotten Weapons, then sell it as a collector’s item.

[@Fudmottin]

LOL! I'd find this even funnier if some of Ian's "Forgotten Weapons" hadn't been in my EDC rotation.

[@willlowery84]

Fudmottin ha which one?

[@Fudmottin]

@@willlowery84 H&K P7M8.

[@JeffWallace2009]

I went with my intuition and saved $1,600.00. Sean, I really appreciate the confirmation as from time to time, I tend question whether I was correct or being too judgmental. 👍🏼 👍🏼

[@SteelBuckeye]

It’s like you are what the NRA used to be. You look out for all gun enthusiasts/supporters. Thank you.

[@TexasDog3]

NRA: Not Real Activists.

[@556poor7]

I like the fire control group idea but not really a fan of the self firing feature. Thanks for the video!

[@brandonbush4808]

I had my oz9 for two days. Put 500 rounds through it and it malfunctioned 25 times. Called them and they told me I was limp wristing and it couldn't possibly be the gun. Took it back to my local gun shop and it did the same thing for them. Got rid of it.

[@brandonbush4808]

@@hvkrev2 haha. Of course not!! Love the content man. Keep up the good work!

[@jasongrant-reviews7247]

Brandon Bush Zev sucks anyways I don’t no how anyone would buy a gun from them or trigger

[@garyK.45ACP]

Got rid of it? What does that mean? Did you sell it? Did you disclose the problem to the buyer? Or did you just dump it on someone and let them finance your bad decision?

[@PhilJLF]

gary K lol 😂 😂😂 your name is a little ironic for the comment you wrote hahahahahah

[@brandonbush4808]

@@garyK.45ACP I traded back to my local gun shop and they sent it back to Zev and got their money back. So chill dude.

[@BigStarch96]

I paid $1623 dollars to get my oz9. First magazine ever first round it wouldnt go into battery. No matter how hard I tried and how many different ways I tried it would not go into battery. So i tried 3 different types of ammo. Not a single one would feed into the barrel. So I swapped the barrel into my glock 17 and it fed with no issues at all. Took it back to the dealership and showed my gunsmith. Ended up sending it back and they offered me a refund so I bought a deagle. Never even got to put a round through it. I would trust a fucking hi point over a oz9. Shit is garbage

[@BigStarch96]

@@hvkrev2 I'm one of those guys who always hated on gucci glocks and all my buddies who owned them. Well I worked a shit load of overtime and bought one and never even got to fire it so i rest my case. I'm a Springfield guy and always will be. Never had a misfire or a jam in the 4 or 5 I own.

[@s-48group39]

Don't mix the oz9 with a gucci Glock built right

[@benjaminrocket473]

There is nothing more american than sending a gun back to the dealer, and then buying a Deagle. 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅 CUHHH CAAHHHWWWWW MUFKRS #FREEDOMHARDER

[@mobilesolutionsfl]

What a bummer & thanks for the warning. Not knocking Agency triggers, I've used them and they work pretty well, BUT Johnny Glocks triggers are, hands down, better than anything else on the market. I bought a DEM Gunfighter trigger and it worked pretty well too but after Johnny worked his magic on it, it is the absolute tits. Really enjoy your Vids, Sean. Thanks.

[@1madmax22]

thanks for the info.. I started to have an interest until now.. and they have the single spring so it can be tuned to run how someone wants it to run, like with certain ammo, if it doesn't cycle right, you can tune it to cycle correctly. I'm looking for Glock Gen 3 parts now so I can build my own and tune it to run how I like.

[@benjaminrocket473]

Did you have this problem with regular size mags? Some extendeds have problems feeding in the glocks as well. Unless, the mags come from glock. I had this problem with an extended mag in my 23

[@Sp1ice]

Wonder if you swapped a stock slide or trigger on it if it would work properly or if it is a design flaw with their serialized frame.

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

Did you chop the handle for your quick change barrel on your Fightlite yet?

[@MarineTankerredmistshow]

Thanks to you amd everyones comments i was about 20mins away from buying a upgraded ZEV trigger for my glock 19 but now im going to another trigger

[@tonylopez5239]

Johnny glocks

[@bowlofrice8]

Just use stock trigger

[@Tainomontana]

Hey Sean have you tried a Johnny Glocks trigger? He’s the Geissele of handguns Glocks to be specific

[@texasghost6725]

1776ERS opinions man, unless you’ve shot every trigger to make comparisons, your opinion means jack.

[@Fr3d671]

👍🏾 Much appreciated review! Been saving up to get the OZ9 comp version, but after seeing this review plus tons of feedback comments, I've def lost that OZ itch...

[@cryptocrackhead527]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I ALMOST ORDERED 2 CUSTOM OZ9'S. YOU HAVE DONE A SERVICE HERE BRO.

[@nathanherbrand5955]

Is there a video you have, with this going off full auto?

[@USMC-1911]

Thanks for putting that out there, I personally would never spend $1500 on a glock but I don't have you're kind of money to play with . I usually change the trigger and sights except for the gen 3 trigger is perfect. I actually have a zev trigger in one of my glocks never had a problem, but the gun you have is a whole different animal. P.s if I had your kind of money I would probably try a $1500 dollar glock I hope everything works out for you .

[@hagi1367]

Just stumbled across this video. Thanks for the PSA and thanks for taking time to do a video on it.

[@BDSasquatch]

Late to this but I bought an oz9 frame and grip for an agency slide and immediately had problems with it going into battery, sometimes the trigger would be jammed forward with a live round in the chamber as well I had a gen 3 glock with a timney trigger and all the Johnny Glock mods you can do to it to make it drop safe and so I swapped the triggers out and the gun seems to be just fine but the gen 3 I put the zev trigger in started having the same issues the oz9 frame had

[@brobdingnagianone900]

What did you say you are that allows you to have auto sear?

[@GRat9717]

I took my new OZ9C to the range this morning and had the failure to go into battery issue. I remained patient and by the end of my 200 round session it was much better. I don't mind having to break a gun in but for the price it is not an expectation.

[@shojus]

I guarantee they found the problem and fixed it, and told you there was nothing wrong with it! Sounds like what a company would do to avoid blame...

[@khyoon14]

i agree with that. avoiding lawsuit

[@a15navar]

I bet the slide stop spring was on top of the top pin.

[@youvandal411vm]

They just recalled all of them for this issue.

[@JonConley]

@@youvandal411vm yeah. What a shame. OZ9 - albeit, based on old tech - is a very cool idea (and I suspect Glock may do something similar down the road, with swappable grip modules), but Zev is a marketing company first and a Firearms Manufacturer second. Their attitude and safety record guarantees that I'll never carry their products. soldiersystems.net/2019/10/15/oz9-standard-trigger-replacement-program/

[@user-fk8rq5vr9e]

Agree

[@snowsheldon77]

Apparently there was a recall about 7 months ago and this issue with a disconnecter was fixed... I am not a glock guy at all although I have 4 or 5, I actually just got this gun brand new from a raffle... my experience with it has been nothing short of amazing though... I like your honest reviews, but I think this issue has been corrected...

[@22leggedsasquatch]

🤣🤣 'I'm not a Glock guy. But i do have 4 or 5" niiiiice

[@otherbob23]

Why does this issue sound more like mechanical malfunction and less like negligent discharge?

[@whitechocolate452]

I have a question....I bought my 0z9c Elite 2 months ago, shot it for the first time last weekend, 300 rds, mine ftf on a couple if I babied it. The slide also locked up with a live round chambered, couldn't rack the slide. Would this fix that as well? Anyone else experienced this? Zev has not gotten back with me.

[@carlreeves6108]

Lol tell us how you really feel as always thank you for the honesty good man.

[@MrTylero28]

It was great meeting you the other day! Man that list of yours was EPIC to say the very least!

[@giterdun1864]

The NRAs " shooting illustrated" magazine has this gun on their front cover. It Looks pretty. Thanks for your honest review.

[@lukewarm1740]

I do like the orange case better than the black box my Glocks come with. Will ZEV sell just the boxes except leave off the OZ logo?

[@landnnut]

www.pelican.com/us/en/product/cases/protector/1400?sku=1400-000-150

[@Cortexian]

We had the locking lug on the bottom of the barrel come off our range OZ9 at about 3000 rounds. Had to replace the magazine release because metal magazine releases on polymer mags just result in broken mags, and had to replace the entire EDP and extractor with factory Glock parts since the OZ9 ones started failing to extract properly around the 3500-4000 round mark. Meanwhile I'm about to clean my G19X for the first time since buying it at the 10,000 round mark. Has functioned flawlessly so far. Was initially impressed by the OZ9, real use shows something different all together.

[@s-48group39]

I have had the magazine problem with all my Glocks that have metal mag releases.. I put them in because I'm a lefty and needed an extended mag release. So it's not just a oz9 thing

[@kenchang619]

Thanks for the honest review. Def going to hold off on getting one now. I can share some insight into why they made the design decisions they did. This is pretty much Zev's attempt at getting into the competition space (USPSA/IPSC/IDPA). By releasing a "Production" line pistol, it will be legal to shoot the OZ9 in divisions that ONLY allow factory guns. For example, if you built a Frankenstein glock it would only be legal in Open and Limited Divisions (USPSA). Also, the reason they created it with the 1911 grip angle is because 1911/2011s are generally accepted to be the most comfortable guns to shoot. I believe KC Eusebio helped with the development of this pistol who happened to be a long time Open division shooter.

[@jimmyp5487]

SWEET $1500 dollar paper weight you got there!! Got the same agency trigger in my gen4 G19 and it’s the best that I’ve found so far IMO. Great video and I don’t blame u at all for blasting ZEV. You probably saved a life or two putting this video out on that POS.

[@Ryansrangereport]

So I had a similar issue w a Suarez side. I used that orange back plate so I could see what was going on. Sear was not staying in place during reset. When I would let off the trigger it would go boom, and once when I sent the slide home ( in my home) and it went thought my TV.

[@highprocam]

Is the lockup on the Striker and Sear 80% or more ? Maybe start there

[@peternorth1721]

I have a Glock 17 that is very “upgraded”. I’m running all Zev upper parts in the gun minus the firing pin safety plunger, because of a crucial issue with that specific part. Even in a stock Gen 4 17 I found it to cause my firing pin to slip and fire a round on trigger reset almost every trigger pull.

[@user-fk8rq5vr9e]

Wow good to know

[@bap2139]

do you have experience with zev slides as drop ons? if so, would you recommend?

[@jfbreig]

Question, I saw your finger off the trigger when it the gun went off, so; Was it a dead trigger with the trigger stuck to the rear? Were you expecting to ride the reset before firing the next round? The trigger is still a "safe action" trigger so, it is impossible for the gun to go off without the trigger being depressed, no? as in, if you rack the gun and do not depress the trigger, it will never fire or go off on its own, right? well, in theory?

[@dman2043]

What is your carry ammo?

[@xutiancao8028]

Watched your video Didn’t get an oz9 Went agency full build instead Couldn’t be more happy with it Thx bud!

[@joeysansone947]

These straight up reviews are why this is the best gun channel on youtube

[@cristiano69y]

Alguien me explica de que se trata esto,..... En español

[@jeremiahamundson2165]

I appreciate the disclosure of bias from the start and your putting this video up regardless off what a pain in the ass it could turn into. Videos like this are why people, myself included, trust you. (As far as you can trust someone you've never met on the internet ^^)

[@PoptartFps]

Thanks for saving me money. I had it in the cart was buying this Friday. Thank God 🙏 I watched your video.

[@randylivengood3112]

I’m sure glad I picked up a 19x instead of saving up for this. Kind of reminds me of the issues with Taurus and their semi autos, unfortunately people have already died from those. I’m grateful for guys like you who have the stones to call people out on things like this. You may have saved someone’s life.

[@emknight84]

I noticed those discharges were all when you were using those extended mags.....i wonder if that had something to do with it. Did you let them know to test it while using that?

[@williamthe3361]

What's the bill your talking about? How's it affecting you? What's it taking from us now and wich state. Missouri he we come

[@krazyjit8770]

Well done! Thank you so much, almost made a bad mistake. Hope no one pays the piper due to a big company negligent decision.

[@dnj2147]

If you had the money, and could buy the new modular build kit, would you? $480 for the 'frame". What ZEV parts would you most definitely not purchase during your build? Thanks.

[@jonathank7394]

No

[@mrgoodbar216]

Now i know what my wife is getting for Christmas 🤣🤣

[@sweaterwearingsquirrel9302]

You went dark on us bro... real dark.

[@imrickjames7012]

Oof

[@The_secondbattalion]

That was funny😂😂

[@texasghost6725]

I got something for your wife too

[@kevinjones2303]

I had an a.t.i. 300 blackout pistol that the disconnecter would let go when releasing the trigger slowly and drop the hammer.good thing I found out I found out dry firing, surely it would have led to an unintended discharge if I would have not known and went to the range. I also remember a wasr I had having a trigger the would stick right on the wall. Also a bullpup sks that was suspect with the safety and a sub 2000 that was wobbly where it fold. And I had a squib load in a 12 gauge saiga. Safety 1st. Always gotta inspect and test.

[@perchowski3021]

Think it's a 18* grip angle actually for the OZ9. Think Glocks are normally 22*.

[@jakes3139]

I know of a gun shop here in Michigan that had a oz9 slide snap in half. It was a range gun so not sure how many rounds thru it but something else to be concerned about.

[@Majorrick07]

Sent mine in as well, FTE with or without a comp also no matter what grain amount would fail every time.

[@callsignmohas5190]

I have a zev mag boot +5. Its the only mag that the spring gets stuck and round just go bananas inside. Seems like a common denominator for zev.

[@theodorekinnard5189]

Thank you, you just saved me time, money, frustration, and possibly bodily harm!

[@jimhartzell5092]

Sounds and looks like the disconnector hasn't been fitted correctly !!!

[@pittwm]

Why is every time I hear the Zev name, nothing good attached to it

[@seeingimages]

Thanks for the warning. I wouldn't have bought one anyway because it is so expensive, but you've done a real public service by warning everyone on the basis of your experience. 👍

[@whiskeyryeguy]

Sean, thanks for all the information in the video. It helped A LOT!

[@tbick1305]

ZEV was on my "maybe" list but thank you for this, I appreciate it. all zevs are no on the GFYS list, seriously, thanks for this, glad I found it.

[@robertn4840]

(I dont own one so take this with a grain of salt) Agency Arms make cooler guns (subjective) then ZEV and from what I hear they will stand behind their stuff. Not to mention the Agency Optic System is imo the best design out there for a modular optic mounting system.

[@offrosterhandgun5295]

First time watching your channel. Great review! People always want to jump at the minority when a flaw is pointed out on a product. Had the same thing with my experience with the Glock 43x. That gun just shoots left. Anyways, thank you for the review & content. Keep up the good work.

[@MarkEvans72400]

Talking Gear if g45 is shooting left that is a minor rear sight adjustment.

[@wannabwick308]

Thanks for sharing the info.

[@Chris-gx1ob]

Is this worth picking up? No video truly tells me whether its worth it. Also for the price it should have a ZEV reticle

[@odysseusnissan]

THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP. I WAS JUST ABOUT TO RECOMMEND THE ZEV TO MY FRIEND THAT CAN AFFORD IT. NOT NOW!

[@steved2008]

i used to follow you ages ago, glad i found you again

[@willlowery84]

I’d say it has a flat spring and no ambi slide stop because it’s patterned on the Gen 3 Glock...which has fewer patent protections than the Gen 4 and 5’s. Still rather have a stock Gen 3 Glock...

[@gadget6819]

Appreciate your very honest and candid review & you got a new subscriber ...

[@jopsball-turret6969]

I’m surprised by these issues, i thought these pistols were dummy proof. I bought that same zev trigger for my gen 4 19 and it felt like a new gun. I love it, but I think I’ll try that agency in my next Glock. Can’t believe those sell for $1600! Thanks for the video, I actually learned some stuff👍🏼

[@louisalbergato7277]

You said you’d send me the patch and it never showed up 😢

[@AllanG1914]

Hi. Will you have a part 2 on the DP12?

[@AllanG1914]

@@hvkrev2 Thank you. I've watched that particular video so many times over the past three weeks. You know how you end up memorizing lines from TV shows or movies after you've watched it so many times. Yeah..... 😁

[@johnfrancis4748]

Change the fire pin and spring. I had the same issue when I built a p80 and used upper kit from zev, plus fail to feed sticking on the firing pin. Light primer strikes was causing it to miss fire. Zev gave me bulls hit too. I would not recommend them one bit

[@ghettobat1097]

Is that GHSC? You in Washington Sean? You have a shop here?

[@erinralston]

Been looking for other guns to just take shooting and have a little fun with (nothing really I'd carry) so I keep my eye out for these videos. You described perfectly the situation where my gf would shoot me in the face. Thank you, I've subscribed

[@cadebrown3069]

Watched this video when it was posted, and just watched it again. I bet this issue was due to the group itself flexing, or shifting lower within the polymer under the stress of firing. Great content on the channel and im sure many appreciate your word to the masses.

[@Chosenarttattoo]

www.zevtechnologies.com/product-recalls

[@gibanez1]

Good to know, I was about to buy a Zev and now I have totally changed my mind.

[@IROC-ZNM]

Hey thanks brotha I was thinking on getting one but wasn't sure now I'm deffenitly not getting one. Sorry for the loss of ur cash

[@outsidersedc7479]

Wish i had 1600 to waste on proving a point

[@SirHC888]

Why would you even try and bump the slide with your hand multiple times? I would have fully unloaded it and tried different ammo and see if it happens again. If the slide jammed again, just unload and take it back home or an armorer and see if there was debris or other issue causing it to malfunction.

[@caleb2187]

I have a ruger sr9 basicly same or similer problems dead trigger half the time started firing burst once. I sent it back and ruger being ruger replaced almost all the internals and fitted a new barrel i belive. I belive all i got back i sent in was the slide lower and mag. The trigge smoother than before its pretty neat now. Ik u are most likely not interested in a 350$ 9 but rugers service is lit 👌

[@stephenross5586]

THE MOMENT I saw the trigger stay back, the random discharge and such, yeah, i like the grip but the other problems are gonna kill it

[@762X39KALASHNIKOV]

My ZEV never went fully automatic but the locking lug on the barrel completely sheared off so I sent it in to get it repaired and when I got it back they replaced over 15 different parts free of charge I mean if this is the greatest pistol why did you replace so many parts and I am referring to this because they replaced the entire trigger assembly as well

[@josephfleischli]

Thanks for the info Sean great video as always

[@srirachasoda8961]

Hey Sean, Idk if it'll help, but Tactical Toolbox did a whole video on how to trouble shoot gucci glocks/heavily modded aftermarket custom parts glocks on his channel. I forget the exact title but maybe it's worth a shot?

[@srirachasoda8961]

Also damn. I was lusting after this thing until I saw this. I really liked how the slide sat on a metal frame vs. Metal on polymer. Have you seen the new gucci faxon glock 19s?

[@sbgroen]

Liking my Ranger Proof Edge a lot this morning after watching this video. Kudos.

[@ryanvargas4889]

I’ve been binge watching your channel since I found it this week. Enjoying the direct info/opinions on so many guns without the hyped up used car salesmen vibe I get from other gun reviews.

[@jeremy483]

haha im so glad this was an honest review. a buddy of mine actually had a lot of the same opinions. didnt have the random discharge......bbbuuuutttt did have some very strange trigger lockup issues. like not total lock, but a stiff break and no full extension on release.so its scary to see this in others.it brings me back to my P320 issues and that recall...i know there were some people who had a bad experience, but sig took EXTREME care of me personally, including, a very strong concern that i would even have another gun while on wait.i did, but they were so sad to have to possibly leave me without a firearm while doing their best to fix a mistake.This whole issue seemed like a scared company not wanting to lose face and price point. very sad that it seems they care only for that.what if you did give this to your wife, like as a nice present and it was a carry gun?"GERRY" wouldnt sleep the rest of his life with me banging on his door if something happened.

[@leroyjenkins4811]

Thanks for the heads up. Instead of buying a gun that looks and feels like a Glock, buy the damned Glock!

[@jojo-dn7qb]

i would never waste my money on a zev. all that stuff they do you can get done cheaper somewhere else or do it yourself. good video

[@billroberts9044]

THANK YOU For Your Honesty & Diligence In Getting The Facts Out There. GREAT JOB... THE LIFE YOU SAVE, MAY BE YOUR OWN!

[@556arbadboy]

I actually love Zev but will be completely honest. The OZ-9 Standard absolutely sucks do to the fact that they recommend 200+ rounds to break in and does not do well with 115gr ammo. I found if you put OEM Glock springs in it. The gun will work much better. By springs I mean trigger return spring and the striker spring. Now the OZ-9C which is a compact version was ready to go out of the box. I have mine set up with the X grip frame so it is like the Glock 19X in size. Point is stay away from the Standard and get the Compact if you are interested in getting a Zev Technologies pistol.

[@xvidmax]

Thanks man... your honesty is appreciated.

[@Bigiron88]

Wow! Thanks so much for this! These guns are nearly 3 grand in Canada! Lol

[@darkheartkain]

Ok first video I have seen of yours. I am now a subscriber. Well done.