Zhuge Liang talents and pairs [test results] Rise of Kingdoms Guide

[@Chisgule]

IF USING ONE ARCHER MARCH - BOUDICA ZHUGE. IF USING TWO ARCHER MARCHES - Boudica YSG/Artemisia/Honda & Zhuge Nebu

[@littlericeboy6187]

That thumbnail. I do love a huge monster. Who else with me?

[@predatorgaming7157]

İ have ysg , and i want 1 archer march for 3 inf and 1 cav march , which one should i go on , bodica or liang ?

[@choosingmine128hi3]

Hey wondering if you could look into server 85 drama I want to know if it is true

[@jco_1991]

Do you see difference between NabuZhuge and ZhugeNabu? In some tests I did I seemed to work better Nabu primary

[@DDKKAY]

​@@predatorgaming7157of Course Zhuge liang, both have Circular AOE. And ZGL has debuff to 5 targets.

[@skeetSoT]

I’ve Been waiting for this!

[@mikeypick1]

Z-HUGE FOREVER!

[@ABAGP]

You are an idiot

[@ABAGP]

Zhuge Liang is three words not two

[@mikeypick1]

@@ABAGP true story siskiii

[@jerrylarios6398]

What I take from this is that the next cav commander is gonna be insane to level the troop type advantages again

[@realjohnlove]

Why? The Cavs owned the game for a whole year. Next Cav commander might be a similar to Sargon. Be really good but not a gangbuster

[@pound4pound380]

@John Love if the next Cav march is single target I will pass. I don't care what it has. Unless they considering making a making an AOE cav commander better than Nevsky I will pass. I got all my single target hard hitting commanders. Boudica, Nevsky, and Sargon. No AOE no money. My account is completely stacked at this point. I have Heraculis and Zhuge maxed. I will replace Guan when they come up with something worth investing

[@pound4pound380]

@John Love I don't see the creators allowing a archer march to completely just beat the best cav march in the game like this. Either Joan or Nevsky is getting replaced and I'm thinking it will be Nevsky. Weird to think that but I just don't see them giving us another Nevsky and if so what the hell type of skills would they add if no AOE?

[@charbelattieh8005]

I believe infantry will make a comeback

[@pound4pound380]

@@charbelattieh8005 I know they will. This next commander will be Scipio on steroids

[@Palmtree12351]

It’s always a good day when u post chisgule have an amazing day ❤️ Keep it up

[@sand9282]

Have you tried the Saladin-Nevsky/Nevsky-Saladin combination against the Boudica-ZL pair? Saladin has a 40% healing reduction, which can be effective against Boudica. Additionally, Saladin provides buffs such as a 20% increase in defense and attack, along with reduced skill damage by 30% and counterattack damage by 20% from enemies. The only area where Saladin falls behind Joan is in terms of area-of-effect (AOE) damage and rage generation. However, Saladin performs exceptionally well against single targets. Similar to Joan, Saladin offers a support tree that is valuable for damage reduction in open fields and even occasionally in garrisons.

[@DarkAngel-kh9cf]

legend ❤been waiting this

[@jeriahjoseph2703]

Why not pair with ceaser? With his museum he gets 20% March speed... Plus way more damage output and damage taken reduction

[@timtaylor5638]

🙄

[@TAETO1585]

I'm actually going to try this in our next kvk. It's certainly not the best pair, but I think it's viable.

[@AnkushVed]

Anyone has any test results for this combo?

[@Gideonblade]

My Nebu/Caeser is quite tanky in AOO Going to test out in KvK

[@EvoGravity]

JC is really nice when used as an auxiliary skill

[@baechu7839]

Health counters the damage of skills. Defense counters the damage of normal attacks. Attack counters the number of troops. And yes, even if we have a lot of health statistics, we need defense.

[@NICOCLASH]

Well Boudica does give a lot of defense 😃

[@James-bx5mr]

Health stat is exactly what Boudica is missing (Henry too for that matter)

[@NICOCLASH]

@@James-bx5mr but Zhuge provides that 😃

[@James-bx5mr]

That was my point 😉

[@davorkapetanovic4257]

That would mean you could have zero health stats when you battling an Attila/Takeda, and have same result on trades than if you were 120% health 😂😂😂

[@ziyadpepe6291]

Great analyzing chis 👏👏

[@tbhrekt2392]

I would personally play Boudicca ysg, and then Henry zhuge. Hiding Zhuge behind Henry in the open field seems very valuable

[@noxsigh]

Or boudica zhug and Henry ysg

[@mikeypick1]

That’s what I run. But I put Z-huge in front

[@gunnarronning]

As a so called archer main, my biggest takeaway from various test results I have seen, is that I now need to max Zhuge, dido and Hera. And I need to finish of a second crit archer set. I dont want to lock Zhuge in garrison with Dido if Hera perform slightly better. And I need another top notch set of gear to run around with while dido sits on the best in garrison.

[@gjinro743]

your problem is real and valid. but I cant relate since I only have so much heads and materials.lmao

[@kingpalafox1045]

Your real problem is by the time you get all of that, a new cav commander will come along and wreck all that.

[@ostreych3403]

Your real problem is that you’re an archer main

[@umargaming691]

I have a question i am f2p and i am inf main i have ysg maxed i have enough golden heads to make a commander 5551 which 1 will be better choice for me boudicaa prime 5551/ysg or Zhuge 5551/ysg Please reply...

[@pound4pound380]

When YSG gets his last Relic buff it may even consistently beat Nevsky Joan march. Don't know how long it will be before this relic happens again. Guan needs a defensive or health relic too.

[@goodgamersgermany]

best video i‘ve ever seeen❤

[@mikeystanford1984]

Man he looks great 👍

[@azunai6592]

You actually can get the museum in kvk3, since SoC commander are available in this kvk format.

[@domgoro-rc1uw]

nice vid, ty for info

[@Matt-de7ro]

I can't wait to see how OP the new cav will be (and how underwhelming the next inf will be as well lol)

[@stewartpatong5970]

With that being said, still bettee to expertise Sargon?😅

[@Matt-de7ro]

@@stewartpatong5970 I gave up on inf after Sargon/Tariq.

[@stewartpatong5970]

@@Matt-de7ro and I finally decided to unlock my arty and make her 5511 since I only have ysg, then after resets theres zhuge liang.,hahaha

[@pound4pound380]

They have to do something with infantry next. No more of this single target bs

[@matteo8772]

With my friends, we called him YSG on steroids

[@LHabagat]

Zhuge w/ Artemisia.. will that work? I guess i didn't see it on the results

[@ahlisugianto6360]

I have 2 main archer march now, boudica/ysg & edward/zhuge (5511), or should i switch their secondry to boudica/zhuge (5511) & edward/Ysg. Pls help me out

[@pound4pound380]

I'm considering just running my cayon team out next KVK 1. Guan/ Scipio 2. Nevsky / Joan 3. Zhuge / YSG 4. Sargon / Honda 5. Trajan / Heraculis This combo is destroying cayon for me. I took my Mulan off to impose more damge. The Trajan / Heraculis is doing major work plus tanking. I have 3 circle AOE's and it's literally destroying the opponents back row without even touching them. The constant AOE is making a major difference. They may swarm Zhuge/ YSG but hell they'll swarm Boudica/ Zhuge too and I rather get more kills on the way out. The rage is sick

[@BilalKhan-kv7ti]

Hey Chisgule, we need more tests, I want to see how good Zhuge is at taking swarms. Can we get a Pakal Harald getting swarmed to sad face, and a Boudicca Zhuge getting swarmed to sad face and see the results

[@Sindonum]

the question is who uses pakal harald? Better compare it with the meta and not the anti swarm combs

[@ostreych3403]

Dumbest comment ever

[@BilalKhan-kv7ti]

@@Sindonum I want easy kills, or maybe just send a Pakal Harald into a battle and let it get rekt?

[@funktionone821]

I told right away in one of your stream that is better than Nevsky, and all the Nevsky favorizing players were boooing me, I'm glad you did this video.

[@СергейЛисовой-э4у]

Он же проиграл в равных условиях

[@JWard-sp7wt]

Finally, archers are relevant

[@ArjKm]

who to pair Zhuge with when I have no archer commanders at all ?? Look at hundreads of comments all asking questions, because this video did not have the answers. I really really appreciate all your help and the videos you make but I really miss your old style videos where you discussed all and every pairing situations. Now you seem to focus on players who can spend and have the best commanders. :( I decided to be a cav main and never finished ysg. ysg is at 5551 . as a f2p gold heads are really hard to come by man. I dont know what to do. Do I go 5511 nebu with zhuge or max ysg ? or use something like Ceaser or athelefled secondary to Zhuge.

[@itzopt]

any zhuge mehmed?

[@faressos4032]

People don't use minamoto because they don't have it

[@HELLOOOOOOO00]

Hey I just wanted to say something about pronunciation. With zhuge Liang being Chinese it should not be pronounced as zoo gei it should be like juge like juice and a soft g. So like in get g Zhu ge Liang.

[@kureha6663]

I have 400 sculptures is better to do 5511 Boudicca + 5511 zhuge or go all in zhuge to pair him with aetherfled it’s my first archer march

[@slane6545]

Do both 5511 as zhuhe aethel will be glass canon

[@deonlamothe5049]

Your missing a pair bro ! Atemesia & Zhu ! Great pair there

[@lizardjesus2501]

👌💪💪

[@ChrisBrown-ms6tn]

Any plans to update Top 5 open field pairs?

[@sojiroseta8393]

But isnt Sargon primary and scipio secondary the best inf march?

[@bannozz]

in 1v1s yes but in open field guan scipio still the best

[@nikkeinismo2669]

Will there be any videos on using him in a rally or garrison?

[@kaprosfeco9828]

And what about Zhuge Liang/Herman prime ? you did not try that out ?

[@Chisgule]

This video was recorded before Hermann prime was announced. Check my recent vids, many of which highlight the importance of this combo ❤️

[@gun5377]

Question, why is there no kvk action? Are all waiting for pass to open??

[@user-dq8oi5ed2x]

Yeah i guess, also the new garrison comm is so strong that why they stop burning fort

[@stewartpatong5970]

Boudica 5511 is good enough? Then expertise Zhuge.,my only expertise archer is ysg next is 5511 arty or experise doudica then 5511 zhuge for now

[@imthegoodnephisto3866]

Where is the pairs section!?

[@erickdarmawan8453]

YSG expert or Zhuge 5511

[@frederikfr4786]

Why are you putting 1 point in your talents in rapid fire instead of attack (in the versatility tree)? It's 0.5% normal atk vs 0.5% atk

[@NICOCLASH]

Why the second build doesn't work? With the extra rage from expertise + horn on fury and i presume William buffs all around, is feral nature really necessary?

[@crazyirish84]

Did I miss the nebu testing?

[@kamranbaylarov5721]

pls test zuge boudica vs boudica zuge

[@robnoob6820]

i dont think using feral nature is a good idea becuz u already get so much rage from ysg and zhuge's skills

[@pound4pound380]

Have you maxed and tested this yet. I thought about that too

[@gikey2830]

GG

[@WallyWeaverz]

But with gear wouldn't the nevsky beat it becuase of the health you get from cav meta gear?

[@andreylishtva2895]

What about 5511 Boudica P and ZL expert?

[@jerzkietetsukie9406]

i have questions abot the equipment why Lilith's change pls check the status off the equipment cavs so big HP now and infa so big deff this is bag or Lilith change

[@Agares903]

I`m now in my first SOC and have already YSG maxed, on what should i work now Boudicca or ZHuge if i only can work on one of them to pair with my YSG? Please answer

[@noxsigh]

Boudica

[@felipemurta9160]

npcs are going to say boudicca but work on zhuge

[@jurezulj9623]

Yo chis,just wanted to know does zhuge need to be put with archers,unlike ysg that can be paired with literally any commander. Just entered kvk 3 and want to know if I can pair him with some old commander bec it is not easy to get 2 good commanders from wof as f2p. So if you know if any old commander could work with him(preferably a march where Zhuge is secondary)

[@mclug1808]

What if you put him with ysg a secondary for people who play for free?

[@cherrypopper6254]

Sargon/zhuge with artifact? How is that pair?

[@Jawan359]

In our last KvK Scipio/CM surprisingly smoked Guan/Scipio and Nev/Joan. Did you already try out CM with double relic?

[@manuelvelasco2761]

Hi man, been some time since ur comment, but would u still recommend that combo? Thinking about scipi/charles, sargon/liu che and guan/alex. These way i can have 3 marches instead of only 2

[@Jawan359]

@@manuelvelasco2761 I still run the combo, but I’m also no big spender. It performs better than you‘d expect but far from meta

[@Kedzior86]

What's about zhuge and gilgamesh?

[@bordelz_z7946]

Sargon/scipio is not better than Scipio/sargon ?

[@greenhash1879]

You never did ysg as primary and z

[@skeer0ne]

Hi Chat. Is there any chance to still use YSG if I cannot make a 2nd archer march. Would Saladin/YSG or CM/YSG work as a 6th march? Thanks for advice :-)

[@korion1569]

Bro, i expertised ysg a few days before, and i didn't have any other commander expertised (quiting Aethelfled), who should expertised or put some sculptures in?

[@Joe-243]

Concealed dagger or Ring of Doom? For inf

[@MrImhighoffmusic]

So another sneaky pair you could do in warriors unbound kvk is ZL/Sargon. Good stats March speed damage. And the circle aoe can apply the awed effect to more targets.

[@pound4pound380]

Naw I use Sargon. More tanky and shields stack plus Heraculis gets a 30% 1000 damage every time a shield pops. I use the coin on that march. I spreads the awwed around well

[@easydubbz4094]

Who's a better commander to prioritise with YSG? Boudica Prime or Zhuge Liang?

[@tanner8775]

Zhuge

[@gindaandre5325]

Is good if i use 1 archer march zhuge liang-ysg?

[@robnoob6820]

bertrand nevsky can beat boudica zhuge so u should use bertrand for 1v1 next time

[@shaunpage6081]

Would gilgamesh be viable with zl?

[@منوعاتابوعلي-ف2ص]

اعتقد ان القتال غير عادل بشكل ما لأن قمت بتجارب كثير ولم يفوز في مبارزة واحد

[@user-dq8oi5ed2x]

When kings land open?

[@ruthhorowitz7625]

Guan is still a good commander, but, as someone who is just entering soc, I won't be investing in him. By the time I expertise my zl, nevsky, boudica,and scipio, I am sure another op commander will be coming out. It makes no sense to invest in anything earlier than scipio prime for anyone just starting soc.

[@vishnusaravanan3754]

I am in kvk3 i have expertised ysg i going for zhuge and pair with ysg and wreck players in murder ball😁

[@DDKKAY]

It's like nuclear bomb in enemy's murderball 😂 if you are not targetted, you will hit 5 targets two times.

[@Augis446]

First :D

[@tybrin8178]

Any testing with legendary leadership gear?

[@gjinro743]

watch the stream. there is not much to change. he is still good.

[@littlericeboy6187]

z-HUGE MONSTER

[@khangvo9512]

I’m currently just got to SoC from kvk 3. Is it worth to max ZL, or keep him 5551 and try go for 5551 Boudica?

[@pound4pound380]

No max him

[@patricks8364]

11:48 that’s crazy. Archer combo Boudica/Zhuge can beat Nevsky/Mina cav.

[@tutuhu1507]

Whaaaaaaat

[@Coregame3]

?

[@thornadohq5048]

Can you put auxiliary skills on both primary and secondary commanders

[@zawarudo1849]

no, only primary

[@thornadohq5048]

@Za Warudo thanks man. I stopped playing 3years ago. Just watch chisgule for fun

[@johnlandrigan6578]

XY will beat any Zhuge march hands down.

[@Hi-li9ju]

What is better Boudicca ysg or ysg zhuge?

[@SVGrokzero]

Boudica YSG. Boudica is way tankier and zhuge is not.

[@glowwurm9365]

Does Artemisia silence get ripped off when paired with him and does the dmg get applied?

[@Chisgule]

I’ve been told that’s how it works. Yes

[@glowwurm9365]

@@Chisgule Thanks, seems that's a legit pairing then given the AOE and general tankiness if your thinking of running two archer marches

[@josea.cuevas3770]

ME GUSTARIA MOSTRARTE MI CUENTA, PARA QUE ME DIGAS QUE DEBO HACER PARA AVANZAR MAS...

[@ErnieAkp]

test 5515 and 5551 to see which is better

[@ryanforgo3500]

2:41 Chisgule bro i have been telling you for ages... the dmg resuction does not cap out at 50% it does not work like that!! Every 15% is reduced from the previous value. 1 target = 2000 2 targets = 1700 (2k -15%) 3 targets = 1445 (1700-15%) 4 targets = 1228 (1445 -15%) 5 targets = 1044 (1228-15%) That's why it feels likw it CAPS at 50% but it is not how it works !

[@DDKKAY]

But does the second target get 1700 dmg? Or both first and second target each gets 1700 ( which means total =1700×2=3400)

[@DDKKAY]

Or Total =2000+1700+1445+1228+1044=7417

[@DDKKAY]

Ysg Total =5192

[@TAETO1585]

​@@DDKKAY the first one. 2 targets get 1700 each and so on

[@ryanforgo3500]

@@DDKKAY yes all targets get the reduced damage, i tried explaining this many times to chis in his stream to relay to the community but i get ignored because i did not pay probably "not that i can because i am a student in russia and visa is blocked"

[@Setsu1606]

When is next stream?

[@Chisgule]

Probably kingsland opening, Wednesday at about 15 UTC

[@Setsu1606]

@@Chisgule Thanks!

[@charbelattieh8005]

Archer meta

[@tiagofernandes5455]

He's purely countering Guan, it seems he's been released to put an end into him

[@DjCaraExperience]

Wick 😢😢😢

[@pound4pound380]

Chisgule you kinda are a hypocrite. You and all I know the damage output of that march is just too good to past up.

[@dylanschang6386]

it weirds me out how much you sound like Ben Shapiro

[@Palmtree12351]

First 🫶🏻

[@ABAGP]

You just insulted 1000000000 people

[@otalgebra4436]

This is disgusting

[@ensar914]

[@CPoppaB1tch]

Funny thing we can't get an infantry set like these. Infantry gets poped on always