ELDEN RING | 8 MORE Fascinating Discoveries!

[@Ziostorm]

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[@oogwaytheotakuclips4370]

Dude you need to include the lyrics when analysing OSTs they reveal interesting insight

[@Ziostorm]

@@oogwaytheotakuclips4370 the lyrics are meaningless. It’s random words generated to sound like Latin. The translations you can find on YT are fake

[@oogwaytheotakuclips4370]

@@Ziostorm You sure because in Gherman's ost I heard clear Latin words, and it isn't like souls games to leave such an opportunity to leave lore, and to just put Latin gibberish

[@Ziostorm]

@@oogwaytheotakuclips4370 not sure about blood borne, but I do know 100% for Elden Ring, the words are meaningless

[@gappyspins]

@@Ziostorm oh damn, I'd have never known, i don't speak latin

[@michaelwerkov3438]

Something about the flame chariot's flame stream, the colors and glow, is one of the best video game attempts to make a flame look actually hot

[@MrCarsonChicago]

Y

[@geordiejones5618]

The flame of frenzy also burns and streams like plasma, which would be extremely hot

[@__bepis____bepis__308]

@@geordiejones5618 that I noticed myself, not just because it’s yellow, but the general shape of every effect of it, nice ass detail I think

[@SixBeark]

Petrification thesis makes a lot of sense - one of the minerals associated with petrification of wood is pyrite (aka fools gold). At normal temperatures it oxidizes releasing a brain damaging gas associated with madness. This is described in all Lord's Sworn weapons & shield descriptions & visually apparent in the coloration.

[@abigcupofwater]

:o

[@ButtersGettingHard]

Hmm i have a big chunk of pyrite by my bed.. Maybe i should move it

[@thetau4866]

@@ButtersGettingHard do so!

[@S3PT1M1]

oh shit :O

[@xVibra]

:D

[@christianotto5553]

I can confirm Polyanna summon was added to the McNeill fight later. On the same patch Millicent was made summonable for the wyrm boss at the Ruin-Strewn Precipice.

[@Metaknight180]

That baffles me. Millicent should still be without her sword arm at that point.

[@raidgod10]

how late? bc ive always seen that summon for me and i bought the game a week after launch

[@normanbestboi9117]

@@Metaknight180 millicent invades when she has only 1 arm in caelid

[@TheMechaNox]

I have a screenshot showing Pollyanna summonable on March 22, so she's been there for a while.

[@christianotto5553]

She is. She actually wields her shamshir in the LEFT hand in that fight.

[@SmoughTown]

Man that Eyes Guarana connection was super neat!

[@eetfuk3571]

oh wow, hi.

[@sleep_enjoyer13]

Surely you have to do a flame of frenzy video now haha. Love all your content.

[@SmoughTown]

@@eetfuk3571 Hey!

[@SmoughTown]

@@sleep_enjoyer13 Yeh it's my most requested video, so I defo will need to cover it!

[@enokimaru]

I've never realized that Shabriri was the most hated man in the world because he falsely accused an entire tribe of merchants of heresy and made them bury under the capital, they went crazy and summoned the frenzy, but maybe Shabriri was already a envoy of the frenzied flame

[@khandimahn9687]

No buts about it. Shabriri was already under the sway of the Frenzied Flame. A theory is that he was originally a Nomadic Merchant himself, and had been spreading the word among them. So when the persecution happened the Order decided to lock the whole clan away. Even if very few had converted, it was enough so when they were locked up it was easy to show the rest how to summon the 3 Fingers as a big F-U to the Order.

[@firmak2]

@@khandimahn9687 yeah they really didnt think that lovking them up thing trough

[@doomrider7]

@@khandimahn9687 A personal theory of mine is that he might have been a prophet and follower of Goldmask like Corhyn. Then Goldmask dies under seemingly mysterious circumstances(there's a goblet next to him in the intro implying poison) and his accusations(possibly at the Golden Order) lead to his blinding followed by the despair that leads him to the Frenzied Flame. He then accuses the Caravan of heresy leading to their genocide and drawing out even MORE of the Frenzied Flame into the world and him becoming the most reviled and despised man in history for this.

[@jackreacher7495]

Man, I would hate it if Shabriri's origins were that fucking mundane. Seriously, that kinda crushed my dreams lol. My friend and I theorized that Shabriri was the origin/first champion of the Frenzied Flame because he was the first man to experience hatred, revile, persecution in the age of the Erdtree. We figured that the in-universe "science" was that, since everyone and everything is just a byproduct of a single point of origin, the suffering one endures is rejected in the same way as the fell curse and Dung Eater's traumatizing way of inflicting it. Kind of like the Erdtree itself was rejecting this pain, letting it back in. That's also why the Two Fingers and Three Fingers are separate - the Three contain all of that human suffering throughout humanity's existence, was cut off, and locked away deep, deep underground, where it wouldn't taint the Golden Order or the souls who are part of its cycle. We theorized, then, that Shabriri was persecuted because he was the first to speak out against the Golden Order, and was then seen as this freak for not being happy with Marika's perfect world. The suffering he endured, not being able to die, drove him to frenzied madness. To us, that kind of origin story is tragic and in-line with something GRRM would write: a fantastical spin on what's otherwise a gritty, nasty aspect of the human experience. None of this boring bullshit (sorry) about Shabriri tricking merchants into the catacombs

[@doomrider7]

@@jackreacher7495 which were you responding to? Khandi Man or mine because I can see that one alongside the Goldmask follower(Corhyn wears blindfolds and the starting class lore is that the prophets faced some kind of persecution) and while a follower of the Golden Order, the Order Healing incantation implies he was disappointed with the pointless violence and unquestioning fanaticism of the Golden Order in finding and enemy to fight as if to justify its own rule and existence.

[@GILGAMESH069]

Fun fact regarding the CNT margit had malenia's soundtrack, apparently fromsoft were so excited for showing us her boss fight

[@greathorn]

They used her track in the story trailer at The Game Awards as well, they were very proud of that piece lol

[@TsuchiharaTetsuma]

wow never expected to find brazilian folklore in elden ring! Guaraná (pronounced something like gua-rah-nah) is very popular as a soft drink, very sweet and unique flavor.

[@jehhuty]

ngl my eye started twitching by his pronunciation

[@andrewvisser5409]

I miss that and Sumol so much .. Been trying to find them Seattle.

[@petersean4947]

Patches is alive and well after disappearing from the Shaded Castle when you give Tanith the Castanets. He returns to Murkwater Cave complete with new fog wall and dialogue. I only found out because I forgot to look inside his chest (after the first time) very late in the game.

[@Angushrothgar]

I'm not saying this series will go on forever, but I will say fudgemuppet still occasionally drops videos about Skyrim... It's been 11 years.

[@Project_415]

Millicent’s “sister” helping with the Commander O’Niel fight does kind of make sense given the quest line’s story

[@michaelbarker6732]

For the Godfrey Shade fight, it could hav an effect on gameplay since you don’t NEED to fight Margit before you get there. Since he is almost definitely conjured up by Morgott he probably would just walk slowly towards you if you haven’t killed Margit.

[@GabrielMartins-wg6nx]

I see Elden Ring lore as the conflict of life, in the lands between we several lifeforms trying to dominate one another, i belive that since the fire of the giants was dominated by Marika, the lands between fell into chaos, in agriculture, fire is used to "clean" the fields when a new plantation is to be planted, so in a sence fire is the force that keeps balance, and in Elden Ring the fire of the giants it's the only thing that can damage the Erdtree but without the fire (thanks to Godfrey and Marika) life went out of control, the Erdtree grew and "infested" the altus plateu, Rot went out of control and had to be sealed only to imerged in Malenia who destroyed Calied, (there is even an item desciption that says the soldiers of Redahan use fire to keep the rot at bay) and the mountain top of the giants froze. But out of this unbalanced fate, a new fire was born, the Frenzied Flame, created from the maddening music played by the nomadic merchants who were banished to the catacoms by the greater will, a new fire to burn all to the ground. "May chaos take the world"

[@enokimaru]

I've never realized that you can actually see, from the throne of leyndell, that the Erdtree has a golden crust encasing the brown bark of the real tree underneath

[@tbotalpha8133]

Yet, weirdly, if you look at the Erdtree from far enough away, it appears to be transparent.

[@nerfer200]

Another cool discovery that I just figured out is all Incantations have a special boarder around them signifying what school they belong to. Poison Incantations have Scarlet Rot fungus around their boarders and Frenzied Flame ones are scorched with yellow flames. The Black Flame incantations dont use parchment either, but rather they use skin paper.

[@eccentricbooknerd]

Wow the before and after footage is amazing! There have been so many little changes since the game released also, it's crazy!

[@sydposting]

The Devil's Tower is actually a volcanic formation! It was created when an intrusion of magma and igneous rock erupted to the surface, and the ash/sediment from that eruption formed a hill. Over time, that hill of ashes and sediment eroded away, leaving behind only the solidified magma of the "core" of the hill.

[@Ziostorm]

Yes, my point was that rocks can look like that. I should’ve been more clear

[@sydposting]

@@Ziostorm I figured as such! Just thought I'd leave a little science lesson as to how/why it's there and looks the way it does.

[@frankiefromky]

Has anyone else gotten invaded by Millicent herself in the swamp between the center and the ruins on the eastern side? It's where the cleanrot knights spawn from the ground... it's happened to me twice so far, both times in the early game before I ever meet gowery or enter the town of sellia. Maybe it's something added recently, I don't know but it's kind of cool.

[@optionallemon9262]

Ye. Been in the game since rrlwse

[@Glucoseus]

Yeah, but funnily enough happened on like my 6th playthrough. May have only been added but idk, nice detail anyways

[@Angushrothgar]

Yea, it's been in as long as I can tell but it makes me curious because she doesn't act like she tried attacking you and got her ass beat when you meet her. Maybe it's like the rot drove her mad like rahdan for abit?

[@kitcw]

she can only invade before you start her questline

[@Hugo_Tate]

Happens all the time. Nothing new

[@zombiehippo9477]

I love the details like eyes of yelough. So crazy the origins of guarana who'd have thought. Nice whoever found that and whoever brought it to life.

[@pataponman280]

I always thought that the erd tree was a sort of parasite ever since I first played on release. Just because in chapter 345 of Berserk they go into a long exposition about what the world tree is in that manga. Basically they describe the world tree as a sort of fissure that permeates all of existence and wants to grow and stretch into everything, but there are several mistletoe like tree parasites which are groomed by wizards that leech the energy from the world tree, preventing it from stretching too far, and allowing things from deeper astral planes from leaving their respective realms (Like the idea of evil). Now with this new petrification theory I think the erd tree in elden ring is somewhat of a parasite like these mistletoe trees and it's purpose is to maintain the order and not allow the previous tree or world tree (which could be the old giant petrified tree) from reaching too far into another plane and possibly allowing something to break free. Edit: This could also explain why we see all the other erd tree trunks in the final boss arena, as there are several other mistletoe trees all over the world tree in Berserk, they could be erdtrees from other astral planes all trying to contain whatever the old giant petrified tree is.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

Fun fact about Gustav Holst: Saturn is part of an entire orchestral suite called The Planets, and Astel has a tail comprised of small planets. Another fun fact is that the song Mars, The Bringer of War, was also the inspiration for the main riff of Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath.

[@arthurdossantos6826]

Mars also inspired The Living Failures ost in Bloodborne

[@goldenbough6563]

Another great video. Regarding the two trees hypothesis, the image above the entrance to the Erd Tree clearly shows three separate entities. The first is the great tree. The second, appearing up the trunk of the great tree looks quite like a mushroom and the third is a tree of light emerging from this point. If the falling star actually hit the great tree up the trunk and destroyed its upper canopy, the top section of the remaining trunk (where the elden beast is located) could look like the crucible we see in the flame of frenzy ending. This provides a clear historical timeline. The Age of the Greattree, the Age Of The Crucible, and then the Age of the Erd Tree, which emerges from the crucible once the flame of ruin has been tamed. Interestingly, when trees are grafted together, the root stock and lower trunk of a hardy species, called the stock, are attached at this same point, to the upper trunk and crown of a more delicate ornamental, called a scion. The crucible section, functions as a kind of haustorium, connecting the two. So the Erd Tree is essentially a grafted tree, which should come as no surprise really.

[@FLYEboi50]

The erdtree being a dead tree wrapped in gold seems to just be for shadowing that Radagon the Golden is merged with Marika. Radagon imo was on a conquest. As with olden times ppl married to acquire lands and power. With the magic Radagon learned from the Carians and then making his own, he broke Marika out of her enslavement to the greater will. Then given her moment of freedom, she shattered the Elden Ring. I think Radagon and Marika orchestrated it all when they got their chance after Ranni coincidentally stole the rune of death. Food for thought.

[@teetheluchador]

So why’d Radagon try to repair it then

[@FLYEboi50]

@@teetheluchador He sought the power for himself as the new "god". For both of their transgressions, they were crucified. I think Radagon used Renalla to learn magic, created his own (and made a religion out of it, fundamentalism), freed Marika just to get her position, and you know the rest. Family feud for the runes.

[@FLYEboi50]

@@teetheluchador To be clear, he planned to get the Elden Ring by mending it after she planned to destroy it. I want to say they both knew of each other's intent. Because whoever possesses the fully made Elden Ring, their will is not their own(which is why Ranni detests the "greater will"). So since Radagon failed to mend it, she lead any tarnished to come finish the job (which is why Godfrey's guidance of grace or any other tarnish's guidance points to different directions for them to reach their goal). That make sense? Or at least that's what I took away from all this lore stuff.

[@BRBMrSoul]

“This series may go on for a very long time” well shucks, what ever will we do :D Also those diff between 1.0 and next version, spark of so many fierce forum debates xD

[@monkeysoulz]

Oh no more content!

[@r3gret2079]

The thing about D's brother n the armor "switching sides" is fuckin mind-blowing.

[@thraftofcaanan281]

Hey also I discovered something a bit ago when I was doing Rannis quest line, and that in the lake of rot if you look to the right when you enter for the first time you can see giant purple crystals growing in a tight formation, and the academy is right on top of that formation

[@Pebetron]

I just discovered that in Alien the 8th passenger (and Alien isolation game menu) they used that Gustav holst's Saturn tune too, and it works so well there

[@greathorn]

On the Godfrey Phantom/Morgott encounter thing: I think the reason why the Lord’s Apparition doesn’t appear unless you’ve fought Margit in front of Stormveil is probably to be consistent with Morgott’s motive to follow you. If you never encountered him before approaching the Elden Throne, then 1.) you haven’t seen his ability to create phantoms, and 2.) he would likely not be so determined to stop you before actually seeing you in-person. If you don’t have context for Morgott’s powers, the Godfrey phantom is probably weird - I know many people thought they had actually killed the “soul” of Godfrey, or his spirit that remained with the Erdtree when he was sent away, and were confused when he showed up alive as ever later.

[@Skavem]

When you are Brazilian but never linked guarana to the fruit of Yelough. The deity is "Boitatá" ( a mythological creature from the Amazon region) which is a giant burning snake, with extremely bright eyes that can cause blindness, it also can breathe fire and shape-shifting. Edit: It feeds from the eyes of its victims.

[@Mishril]

In the official french translation of Elden Ring, the Mountaintops of the Giants is called "Cimes des Géants". Cime is a french word : "Upper, and usually pointed, end of a mountain or a tree."

[@Siege_Panda]

Little bonus theory on top of the fungus theory, I was thinking about the sites and guidance of grace is similar to some more parasitic fungi, that gestate in the stomachs of some creatures like rats or mice. It encourages the infected host to "seek out" cats, because once eaten by the cats, it allows them to reach their next stage in life. So the grace makes me think that the "fungus" is guiding us to where we need to go so it can evolve, and does so to all tarnished, like a hive mind calling it's remnants back to itself.

[@masterbard42]

Soon as I heard you talking about guranaha, my mind instantly went to Monster energy drinks. Maybe everyone inflicted with madness is just really hyped up on the stuff. Also I had no idea it looked like that, that's actually super interesting!

[@TheLastGame666]

Deeproot depths looked way cooler in the 1.00 version, wish it stayed.

[@Blongblorb]

Ziostorm: alright guys this is the last discovery video for elden ring I enjoyed this trip a few days after the last discovery video ziostorm: alright guy there has been more discovery in elden ring everyone: oh brother when will this end.

[@sir.rettfordiii8824]

Based on the information you provided about Morgott and the golden Godfrey projection, I wonder if in an earleir build, the projection was supposed to be a hidden miniboss that would appear once the player discovered specific locations, similar to how the Pursuer worked in dark souls 2

[@undefinedvariable8085]

Looking at the code, you'd still trigger the boss fight event within a close enough proximity. Margit's condition seems to be a weird OR (alternative) condition that may have had some significance in an earlier iteration of the control flow logic or just a hold-over from some sort of testing.

[@SereTheDoggoUwU]

People assume ER’s ost isn’t as good as the others? Bruh, Godrick, rykard, regal moose, radagon, Radahn, maliketh, fortissax, foreskin bros, and especially mohg’s theme, ALL of those songs slap hard. I’m not exaggerating when I say I listen to mohg and radagon’s theme in the gym, that shit gets me hyped. 🔥

[@a5hen]

Ikr, I don't know how some people say that ER's soundtracks are not as good as the other games WHILE liking the other OSTs

[@legday9398]

The thing that drags ER ost down is the fact that the constant music makes boss music feel less special

[@GILGAMESH069]

It's not that it's bad it just that they don't hit as hard as ds3 or bloodborne

[@grantonym791]

@@legday9398 I actually forgot that was a thing. I turned it off before I even started

[@a5hen]

@@GILGAMESH069 Not every theme has to hit but some of them like Maliketh, Rennala, Godfrey, Mohg, Ancestor Spirit's OST are up there

[@xVibra]

In the CNT I remember the Dragonscale Blade had Faith scaling with Int and Faith requirements, but it also had a double hit on the R2 similar to the double hit on Erdsteel Dagger. The weapon skill was still terrible, but I was looking forward to getting it, but it was such a disappointment that it was changed.

[@Mari-Malady-Magnet]

It had the same R2s as the Serpent-bone Blade does back during the network test

[@coldsteelblue7275]

Had no idea about milicent's sister, makes me wonder if the others are available too 🤔 Also, with the Shade of Godfrey fight, it is possible to get to Lyndell without ever having set foot in stormveil castle, wonder if going that route would not cause the Godfrey fight? 🤔 Cool vid man

[@tyeklund7221]

Everytime Zio said that uploads might slow down as secrets are found out I told myself that there will always be something to find. Glad you finally understood this Zio

[@EspyMelly]

Also the practice of Erdtree burial where people put corpses on the roots of the Erdtree for them to be absorbed into it also leads credence to the fungus idea.

[@EduardoPortasRuiz]

In a couple of months a "Base version 1.0 full run" trend will gain traction. It's really is a very different gaming experience than the later firmware versions. Kinda like DS2 and Scholar of the First Sin.

[@LWmusik]

I love how the astel theme is a play on holst saturn, living failures is a play on mars, and blood starved beast is a play on.... the Dune (1984) theme by Toto, lol

[@giovannifederici673]

Gotta give you credit, these videos keep on being really interesting 👍

[@aiellamori]

That summon was definitely added later. There were so many new summons in various places after a certain update

[@jtirri8842]

Godfrey phantom aggro might just be a relic of cut-pasting code from Margit. Since Godfrey Shade is aggroed properly when he appears, the error would be easy to miss since it didn't impact gameplay.

[@acszym]

I don't know if you already know this, but "Saturn" by Holst is also the song played over the opening title of Alien, and remains a theme throughout the film.

[@Leonard-Mazet]

The silver armor looks like old statues of justice, represented blindfolded with a sword and scales

[@DuckMcFail]

Saturn, also, is the destination of the spaceship Discovery, in the Arthur Clarke's novel "2001: A Space Odessy". So, as in the novel, maybe Astel and the other falling star beasts arrived to the Lands Between from much far away that we can imagine.

[@entroponetics]

normal JRPG communities: "I think I screwed up and missed the item I need to unlock romance options for this character, and now I'm going to kms." FromSoft game communities: "Hey, did you ever notice how this obscure item that most people never pick up looks kind of like a big, stretchy scrotum? Here's a 10,000-word essay about how that explains the entire backstory of the game in a way that nobody else has considered before, and makes significantly more sense than previously established lore."

[@francobriones98]

Damn the fact that Consecrated Snowfields might be the trunk of a tree is insaneeeeee

[@konradk1066]

Wow. That’s some quality sleuthing! Great video!

[@allmensland2106]

1:8 So if you skip Stormveil can you fight an un-aggro’d shade? Or does it still aggro if you get too close

[@copydepastey]

Holst planet music was also a big influence on the John Williams score for star wars. you can find lots of videos showing comparisons of sections of star wars to mars and saturn and possibly others. definitely big cosmic vibes. i was surprised when you said people are overlooking the score for elden ring, its amazing! i for one love the addition of having background music during the main areas instead of only boss fights and special areas, and some of the music like altus plateau and leyndell are really beautiful. but there are loads of epic boss tracks! i hope more people will listen to them. for me, elden ring has taken already amazing games and enhanced and improved them even further, taking a lot of the best features and refining them into something even more incredible, and the music is no exception to that.

[@aregeninotenshi6484]

Lots of love as always! I found Polyanna sometime recently and was sooooo shocked!! Used her and a spirit and it was so much fun.

[@Krosstic]

You can get to Leyndell without ever meeting Margit so honestly it would be pretty easy to verify if the shade of Godfrey appears without that prerequisite being met

[@Unforgiven215]

The blindfold thing makes me think of Lady Justice and how justice is supposed to be blind (impartial to wealth, power and status). Not sure how it applies here, but it feels like it could be an inspiration for the armor.

[@c.a.m1387]

I feel like it could be a parody of it even. In D's mind (and others like him), they're fighting for justice and the laws of Order, but in reality they're blinded by fanaticism. Unlike the Laws of Regression and Causality or the Rings of light incantations, D's ones only require Faith, no Intelligence.

[@XN1K1T4X]

While I appreciate the idea that the Erdtree are fungus I don’t believe remotely they are. There are two trees one of which hasn’t been seen in game but it’s called the Lampwood. This black tree and the golden Erdtree represent the two occultic ideologies of the tree of knowledge and the tree of life.

[@benhayes9473]

Good stuff man. I love hearing different theories and trying to decide which ones I want to believe. As long as I've been playing soulsbornes, I still have to go to Vaati's lore videos to truly understand it all.

[@superdupertwan6198]

we already know the erdtree is two trees, it’s stated in lore that the erdtree was grafted/took over the great tree

[@meowijuana2322]

That's what i call milking a cow to the last drop lol

[@nightscout9979]

Regarding the Erdtree, what about the fact that "Mend the Elden Ring" endings show the brown bark of the interior Erdtree outright start glowing gold? There's nothing growing over it, the bark itself shines with the light. Also, the Minor Erdtrees have brown bark but golden leaves. Whatever the Erdtree is, the golden element seems like something natural to the brown bark, and the gold is lost when injured.

[@ColorAgent]

Oh wow! There are lots of theories l(which I have a firm believer of), that the Falling Star Beasts (adolescent and full grown) and Astel are just different evolutions of the same creature. You can google this and easily find multiple in-depth threads about this, so I won't go though it all here; but now knowing they share a common OST origin just makes this even more believable!

[@victorsouza4554]

Never in my wildest dreams I thought I'd see guaraná in an elden ring video. We have a soda named after the fruit here in Brazil. I have not idea if it's made out of guaraná though.

[@scottdevnull5778]

one I've heard faint mention of is that if you roar in the presence of the Redman Knight Ogha, you will get a special interaction

[@legday9398]

Yes he will do an arrow rain

[@Ziostorm]

Interesting

[@sleep_enjoyer13]

It says that in his item description

[@alexkuhn5188]

Speaking of the OST the theme of the Ancestor Spirit is so good!

[@TheMMObro]

I appreciate that these videos are actually still discoveries lol.

[@pustuleofyelough]

Awesome Video yet again Zio!

[@Mookle123]

I wonder if that tree being the mountaintop of giants has anything to do with the larger, more simplex elden rune depicted in the arena where you fight maliketh in forum azula?

[@Jakuobes]

to D's armor set, when you find his brother in siofra aqueduct isn't he blind? like he would fit in the second part of armor because it was created for both D and his brother?

[@ScooBdont]

It’s been found that fungi actually act like a neural network for the forest and living trees of completely different kinds can/will use the mycelium of fungi to pass information and nutrients between/to one another literally connecting an entire area of forest together into a single unit. The section about the fungus on the Erdtree made me think about this. I wonder if the devs maybe had something in reference to that in mind? Great vid btw 🙂👍

[@lethal0304]

Maybe the blindfolded face in D's armor has something to do with justice? It even has a similar pose to lady justice statue (which has scales instead of the sword), maybe there ase some parallels with impartiality, blind justice?

[@eetfuk3571]

definitely justice. just like the lady justice statue.

[@LiloDemon]

Yeah, the blindfolded lady with the sword and balance.

[@mikedee7163]

The jars carry the ashes of people to the trees It could also be their spirits that get sucked up by the tree roots and that's why they glow and give the illusion of a fungi spreading But in this case it's more like vines growing into the tree Why they fully grow at the base but towards the very top there's some spots it hasn't reached yet Just an idea

[@benglaser1345]

6:40 wasn't this implied in item descriptions, with the erdtree taking root in / taking the place of the crucible from which life and beings like the misbegotten originally sprung?

[@timothytbh486]

Consistently using Metroid Prime Trilogy music in your videos is a quality that i hope you keep forever

[@bossman1.11]

For the first point maybe since both of them drop talisman pouch

[@CavinMcGavin]

My first playthrough of Elden Ring a few months ago I did find and utilized the summon sign of Millicents' sister and then wondered later when and how I was going to find her for some quest after the fight.

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

Man, the travelling merchants story always seems so sad. They seem to be a completely innocent group that faces hard ship and slander for really no reason at all. They are people of the land that seem to only wish to make a meager honest living and play folk music with their caravan. And they kinda get treated like crap for that. It's just not right. I loved that they did music for the people and creatures of the Lands Between to give a more human feel to them instead of making everything insane mindless creatures for you to just whack with your sword. The mythologies and cultures that these ideas came from is part of a very rich history. It was a really cool thing to put in the game but it's also sad to see it used as a part of stories of good people being slandered in the writing. Music is just not meant to be used like that. A pretty accurate analogy for how most internet groups work these days, unfortunately. (Probably why I stay away from PvP. Some of you lack any real honor and put your nuts on everything.) I'm glad that real folk music still touches people and was at least mentioned in the game though. My heart always goes to the ones that face the harshest adversity anyway. Like the omen, merchants, ancestor followers, and the albanorics. You know those are the ones who are the real good people in these games. No agenda, no poor treatment of others, just honest people.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Someone told me they're like elden jews

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

@@AC-hj9tv They could possibly be seen that way. I'm not sure what religion they follow in the game, but seeing as they are nomadic I would categorize them more along the lines of Gypsies as they travel by caravan. It would make sense as there is a fair amount of history of prejudice and discrimination towards them in Europe. Including and specifically done by the Catholic church.

[@AC-hj9tv]

@@Dan_ModernDayViking very cool. Great insight

[@Brinkalski]

I have an odd theory. In traditional alchemy the soul is divided into mind, body, and spirit. Mind is often thought of as relating to the moon and to female. Soul is more fiery, sulfur, the Sun, male, etc. Also, in Egyptian mythos, the right eye represents Ra/the Sun and the left eye is Horus/ the moon. It's obvious that Radagon/Marika share a body, and it's explicitly said in D's armor description that they share a soul but have separate minds. Is it possible that Melina and Ranni share a mind? D twins share a soul, which is male, but Melina and Ranni could share a mind which is female. Also, Melina has her "moon" eye closed, as well as Ranni's spirit body, although you could argue that Ranni's right eye is the one that's closed. In the two part souls you often see one representing the sun and the other representing the moon, just like a Rebis (again referencing alchemy.) Marika is the Moon (or the white queen) and Radagon is the Sun (or red haired king) The D twins occupy either the silver part of the armor (moon) or the gold (sun) Melina has her golden eye open, and appears at sights of grace to represent the sun (gold, erdtree), and Ranni has obvious connections to the Moon.

[@Brinkalski]

TL;DR Melina and Ranni share a mind but have separate bodies and souls. They could potentially be closing off their connection to each other by keeping one eye closed.

[@SixBeark]

No.

[@Brinkalski]

@@SixBeark bro why xD

[@SixBeark]

@@Brinkalski Melina opens her eye in the FF ending and it's dead rather than moon.

[@mattstarnes2006]

Wow I thought it was still the gold side of the armor too! That's pretty awesome

[@sleep_enjoyer13]

Same, I always found the pose peculiar.

[@mickeycee8559]

Keep them coming man. I’m sick of playing this game for now, 670 hours lol, but still love the lore and new discoveries

[@totzirger5125]

elden rings music delves into a more subtle style of writing, like the ancestral spirit OST. I love the more grandiose style that you still see in the game, but it isn't quite like previous releases.

[@EmilyE2003]

I found something recently, but the beasts that are hanging from the Pillars of the Bestial Sanctum wear a similar neckpiece to the one Serosh wears. I’m not sure what this means or if they’re similar and there’s nothing else to it. I also noticed something at the place where you get the Cinqueda dagger, the floor kind of looks like an elevator, and in the center your character floats as if there was an inactivated pressure plate. As if there was going to be a way down or up. Again, idk if this means anything but thought at least the first one was interesting enough.

[@BlueBoogy]

I got one for you guys. Turtles have 13 scutes on their shells. 13 being a number heavily associated with death. And death as well as turtles being a major theme in the lands between.

[@undefinedvariable8085]

I've got one better for you guys. You ready? All the turtles in the Lands Between... are actually tortoises. Yea, I know, mind blown. If you look close enough on the 3rd to last scute it says it right there; "I am a fucking tortoise". Right below the crossed out "dog".

[@Cman04092]

So they originally had ancestral followers in the temple part of lake of rot? That explains why they l eft that one random one in, because he drops the immunizing horn charm+1. I wondered why there was a random follower down there, lol.

[@KaneCold]

So when we stick with the theory that the Erdtree is a fungus, then grace would be some sort of spore? Fugus taking over dead bodies via spores sounds like quite the troupe. Yet at the ending, it says "the leaves are telling us...", but fungus do not have leaves. Or we really clear the fungus part and establish a new tree, or the people just don't know better. But I really like the Idea that the mountain top is a tree stump. This could also explain why the whole map is so weirdly shaped, as all of the lands between could also have been a huge ancient tree and with every iteration the next tree got smaller and smaller.

[@AC-hj9tv]

The fungus among us

[@bearyroger]

About D's questline, the silver part of the armor is blindfolded to symbolise Justice (Justice is blind) in my opinion

[@boii3542]

The silver armor could be a play on the tarot card "fool", in some versions the fool is blindfolded while walking off a cliff unknowingly. Wasn't one of the Raya Lucaria masks also blindfolded? I think Gael's arena and the arena of Godfrey/Margit fight are pretty similar in theme: ruined buildings, ash or sand, a bunch of thrones/seats. Margit's phase transition, when he shoots goo from the ground has a similar feel to Gael's red explosion thing attack.

[@Stormmblade]

Clearly the silver armor and blindfold are references to the concept of justice being blind. Because if he wasn't blind, clearly D would be simping for Fia just like literally everybody else /s

[@Greaseball01]

Cool note but not really a discovery about the flame chariots - they're very reminiscent of a plot point in Targaryen history (possible spoilers for House of the Dragon if they ever get to Aegon the Unworthy's reign) where after the dragon's died the terrible king of the time got pyromancers to make fake dragons that are basically dragon shaped wooden chariot things, super impractical and quickly discontinued but it's very similar to these since these flame chariots are in the shape of fire giants instead. Probably just parallel thinking but it might be a deliberate reference.

[@whollenbeck8]

There is a Hellraiser music theme used in one of the areas of the game....can't recall where right now.

[@gir2195]

Well, I hope that someone now gets to Godfrey without fighting or touching any Margit. I wonder if Morgott counts...probably just a leftover coding artifact.

[@Beeyo176]

It's entirely possible, and I'm sure someone will do it soon enough.

[@gir2195]

@@Beeyo176 "Well, fuck, boys. I'm surprised we're not making it right now"

[@blackrat1228]

They would also have to avoid fighting his second shade in the Leyndell battlegrounds. Shouldn't be too difficult, just come from the south. It'd be really interesting if Godfrey's shade doesn't appear.

[@dudenintendo605]

Polyama wasn't recent added, she was there since my second or third playthrough (around Mai)! You find her directly between the Boss and the Point of Grace!

[@x_ALLMIND_x]

Nice touch with the Metroid Prime music ;)

[@FOEBOS]

my guess is the godfrey phantom aggro code was for a planned/scrapped godfrey+morgott duo fight?

[@arthurvidalmendes1873]

One thing i think about is what if godwyn had that mermaid tale of the crucible BEFORE his death? The only time he appears is in the opening cutscene where his lower half in conveniently facing away from us. His two brothers are omens, theres the crucible knights linked to Godfrey... That would make Godfrey's relation with the crucible even deeper

[@orichalonhades5275]

if he's an omen like his brothers then he would have been sent to the depths of the capital too. He is described as perfect and where the "Golden Line" came from, so there's basically no chance of him being an omen.

[@arthurvidalmendes1873]

@@orichalonhades5275 i didn't say he's an omen i said maybe he was already touched by the crucible, not necessarily an omen. We know crucible knights were discriminated later on but in Godfrey's time they were his soldiers. He wouldn't be an omen just have a fish tail. There is more chance I'm wrong than otherwise but it's convenient we never see his legs or statues with his lower half etc

[@GodEmperorOfShorts]

I've always kind of assumed he had the tail, since the few (two times) hes seen he's wearing the black cloth at his waist, just like his corpse at in the deep root depths. And the omens might be have BECOME an ill omen after Godwyn's death. Obviously there is really no way to "prove this", it just sort of naturally flows with a lot of themes the game presents.

[@thenonillusive1769]

Great Vid! Also, John Williams was inspired by Holtz' epic! Aka Star Wars.

[@pious83]

Personally, I think the very best of Elden Ring's OST is the Regal Ancestor Spirit theme.

[@SleepyChloeFist]

The first Morgott encounter (Margit), as well as the Godfrey phantom, both reward the player with a Talisman pouch. Since Margit is mandatory, Maybe phantom Godfrey is coded to attack as a way to guarantee you're never missing a talisman slot?

[@en20drayt87]

margit is not mandatory

[@Cuda-the-Dog]

That looks like mycelium on that branch not vines. Mycelium is like the roots of mushroom and fungi basically.

[@en20drayt87]

minecraft

[@billj.8690]

I think the Erdtree is a sentient being and a predatory plant, like a Venus Flytrap. If you think about it, The whole outer god/ Greater will might just be some sort of hallucination or mind control through vibration. And it's goals are the basic goals of any being: to survive, thrive and reproduce. What if all the guiding grace, 2 Fingers and everything else was created to have a Kingdom of people who protect the tree and venerate it. And it just so happens they went out of there way in this game to drive home the point that Erdtree burial is the highest honor one could have. So basically, have nutrient-rich corpses dumped into the soil where the Erdtree's roots grow.

[@sleegon7475]

Love the 8 discovery videos. Has anyone made a post about the island behind the haligtree though?