ELDEN RING | EVEN MORE Interesting Discoveries!

[@Ziostorm]

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[@madamemimikyu1737]

i clicked and it says invite invalid?

[@Ziostorm]

@@madamemimikyu1737 weird. I’ll update it

[@drnobody1908]

@@Ziostorm second time asking for your thoughts on square off on greatswords! And possibly an official vote poll.

[@mightysrk]

Miquellas egg in mohgs arena looks way more like hip bones to me. Like he’s in a skeletal womb. Just an observation. Great stuff my man.

[@BudravenOG]

In Danish folklore, a Valravn is a supernatural raven. ...Other accounts describe valravns as monsters that are (half-wolf and half-raven) 6:10

[@one-eyed-dragon]

Let's gooo, my observations on the red lightning actually made it! Actually a few days after pitching it to you I realised another interesting point which I then forgot to mention. It seems that ancient dragons are made of gold underneath their stony exterior, something that can be particularly seen in Placidussax. And as many know, gold is an excellent conductor of electricity. Just some food for thought. As always, great vid mate and cannot wait for the next one!

[@Shiirya]

To add to this there is a relation so, as soldier in leyden mostly has a lot of armor that looks golden, they use lightning, they are under the golden order and dragon made a pact with godwyn who kinda tamed them so, thats a lots of connexion

[@bobbychungus6168]

what if the gold is also unalloyed preventing the influence of outer gods. maybe that's why the greater will wanted to choose a new elden lord

[@sabastjanadams1829]

@@bobbychungus6168 that kinda checks too, as the needle connects back to dragon lord's arena.

[@redhare8572]

So, is Placidusax body is Unalloyed Gold? Fr if that is real than that is explained the needle

[@yoremothra9838]

Great observations. Makes me wonder why there are a bunch of dragons in Farum Azula, hiding out from gold coveting humans, perhaps?

[@GILGAMESH069]

The caelid birds and dogs being the same species will hunt me in my nightmares

[@bendavis6457]

The Hunt begins

[@singaporeseaslugs1393]

And let the feast begin - some bug

[@MadAtreides1]

they are not, they just reuse most animations and the skeleton. The dogs show some very doglike behaviours: they shepards the herds you can find near some shacks and one sit guarding Gowry's location.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

That's just developer laziness lmao

[@yoremothra9838]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 Doubtful. Though, I can see how other lazy developers from other companies might/could have sullied your opinion.

[@nicknamelessking9616]

Science fact about Dark Souls: the Sunlight Spear is not just lightning, is plasma, is described as similar to the sun, that is made of plasma, and a way to make plasma is using electromagnatical fields, this could explain the difference between natural lightning in Dark Souls being blue and miracle "lightning" being yellow, because is actually plasma

[@Photoloss]

Nah plasma doesn't have a specific consistent colour, not even if we limit it to stars. The sun appears yellow to us but if we could see other stars as close with the naked eye you'd basically get any colour on the spectrum depending on their (surface) temperature. Then there's coloured flames and specifically prepared incandescent devices (sodium and neon lamps for example) which are also plasma but tied to atomic spectral lines rather than thermal black body radiation. Basically as far as Dark Souls goes the connection is "sun"/"not sun" via Gwyn's motif not plasma physics.

[@SocraTetris]

Y'all, Imma about to blow your minds. Lightning is plasma, on earth, for real. It is initiated by the potential created in the change of atmospheric charge, but it is plasma for that brief moment

[@Photoloss]

@@SocraTetris The flame of a dinky little candle is a plasma.

[@SocraTetris]

@@Photoloss hm, not quite. Fire is a heat reaction between oxygen, heat, and a fuel. Heat and light are being released for sure, but electrons are not free from their atoms at that stage of energy

[@SocraTetris]

@@Photoloss now St. Elmo's Fire is a plasma weather phenomenon. Perhaps you were thinking of this? 🤔

[@NatheerTheExample]

The “you’re beautiful” prattling Pate is likely Boc’s mother Firstly Boc has many self esteem issues with his appearance, so his mother saying he’s beautiful would make sense We know Boc and his mother were likely the only 2 Demi-humans that can speak And finally the item states it is in the shape of a Demi-Humans head

[@Ziostorm]

That’s very interesting

[@just70hq]

I thought this was confirmed from hearing his dialogue during his quest

[@SocraTetris]

I don't think we can say Boc and Mom-Boc were the only demihumans who could speak. They absolutely communicated with Kenneth Haith at some point just before the events of the game. They had staves and learned sorceries from Raya Lucaria. Boc even says he communicates with other demi-humans (it just doesn't go well). Demi-humans are intelligent, but some other thing must have happened to make them non-communicative.

[@NatheerTheExample]

@@SocraTetris that’s why I say likely, and to rebut, the Demi-human queens are the only ones who can use sorcery, and the staff has the lowest int required to wield it, meaning they are un-intelligent compared to other Magic users. And to rebut your point on saying “Boc communicates with other demi-humans” Of course he did, every creature possesses some form of communication, even ants. So to say that they can all speak English is somewhat strange, and considering Boc likely grew up around other demi-humans it’s likely he can speak in their tongue (so to speak), and he likely learnt English from his mother, and is fluent in both languages (again so to speak, Demi-humans more so roar and make animalistic noises as communication, like when a demi-human agro’s onto you, it holds out it’s sword and roars as to alert the flock) I reckon Demi-humans are intelligent, I mean they can craft weapons, use basic communication, have a hierarchy, from Pinions to Chiefs. These are all basic constructs of what is considered continuousness/intellect, but to what extent their intellect goes is up for debate I think supposedly that the Queens are forced to the top of the Hierarchy from being able to use Glintstone magic. This shows some sort of higher-order thinking as they can learn and adapt to using these new tools (such as weaponry or Glintstone magic) And considering the crystal barrage is similar to Cuckoo Glintstones in the sense that they are essentially a volley of high octane Glintstone shards it’s likely that the Demi-Human queens are using some sort of ability to shatter the Glintstones to fire, or even the spell does it itself. Think about it, we never see any other creatures (aside from ourselves) use Crystal Burst and Crystal Barrage, this is likely due to no writings about the spells existing as Demi-humans can’t speak English (for the most part). Even then they’re both mere imitations of the real, stronger versions of the spells, that being the Crystal Torrent, and the Shattering Crystal. In the description for the Crystal Burst and Crystal Barrage it says “the secrets locked in the faint cogitation of the Crystallians” implies that likely, at some point or another a High Ranking official of the Demi-human society (such as a Queens - of higher intellect of course) witnessed a Crystal using the Crystal Torrent and Shattering Crystal spells (as they can naturally use it), and noticed it’s high effectiveness, this likely lead to them trying to replicate something of that caliber, resulting in the Crystal Barrage and Burst. They would then likely share it with the other queens and use it as a sort of ‘trade secret’ in a sense, keeping it for rebellions. But then during the shattering they most likely would’ve needed to defend their flock, leading them to use it on most they see. And to further your point on Kennath Haight, it’s safe to assume certain, more intelligent Demi-human queens adapted the ability to speak English like Boc and his mother, considering there is the corpse of a Demi-Human Queen in Fort Haight. Alternatively Boc or his Mother could be ambassadors of sorts for the Demi-humans. Now you may also be wondering “what about Demi-human Queen Maggie”, I think personally she is one of the aforementioned high ranking Demi-human queens, and the reason she’s near Azur and his a few Raya Lucarian Scholars with her is probably because she wanted the Scholars to make her learn the Prime-evil sorcery of Comet Azur, in order to dominate the enemy. Furthermore said Scholars are likely enslaved, as near by we find the Hierodas Glintstone crown and the Errant sorcerer set. It’s likely the Academy of Raya Lucaria sent a scout team to Mount Gelmir, lead by Hierodas, (as stated in the Hierodas Glintstone crown: The crown of Hierodas was given to scholars who engaged in nomadic study away from the academy), but were ambushed by the Headless Abductor (which I speculate the demi-humans removed it’s head so it could be a trap for passerbys), and a battle started between the Scholars. The scholars likely lost and what happened next is up for interpretation, but I think likely Maggie is one of the few Demi-humans who can speak English like Boc and his Mother. It would so happen the Scholars likely also went up there to find Azur, for the same reason. However we know Azur doesn’t just hand out the Spell, and likely only gave it to us because he could sense familiarity, that being of Sellen, one of his pupils (probably due to our repertoire of spells - though idk how he did that). Perhaps that’s why Maggie and her army are just standing there, perhaps they’re waiting for travelers like us, to ambush and kill out of spite, that we can learn Comeg Azur, but they can’t. Edit: jesus, i’m sorry I had to make you read of that 💀

[@NatheerTheExample]

@@just70hq nah I don’t recall him saying anything about the prattling Pate, even in the description of the Pate it doesn’t say anything regarding Boc, only that it’s a Demi-human and it’s likely a mother speaking. On a side note, considering Prattling Pates are clay sculptures, made in the image of someone, it’s probably that they can absorb the souls of those who they’re constructed after, like the “You’re beautiful” being constructed after Bocs mother, and the “Let’s get to it” is likely a construction of a Colosseum Warrior, who died in battle, with the Clay fetish made in his honor. Further evidence of this claim is that when you use a prattling Pate the voices are in-human and Emit a sort of ashy wind, almost like that of the Tibia summons. Ik it’s definitely not wind from you speaking as when you do either of the waving emotes the tarnished doesn’t have the same smoke being emitted from his/her mouth. The implication that the wind is that of the ghost flame definitely has implications of souls. Perhaps the things the Clay says were their last words. A colosseum warrior would definitely say something along the lines of “let’s get to it” or “let the battle commence” and considering they don’t talk, perhaps he knew he’s lose. And I speculate Boc’s mother’s last words were such, as on her death bed, she used her last breaths to show her compassion for her son, saying something as solemn and simple as… “you’re beautiful” Along the lines of the other Pates it implies comedic deaths. For example Prattling Pate Hello: the soul likely found an imp statue, and jokingly said “hello”, just for it to spring to life and butcher him. Prattling Pate “Thank You”: the soul likely thanked a partner or friend, and was either betrayed or shot in the back of the head by a stray arrow/bolt from a sniper Prattling Pate “apologies”: the soul was likely pleading for this life, before execution Prattling Pate “Wonderful”: perhaps the soul was the sarcastic type, and was also executed, saying wonderful as he was killed Prattling Pate “Please help”: Do I really have to explain this one? Prattling Pate “My beloved”: likely a similar case to Boc’s mother. Alternatively considering it was found in the Haligtree, it might have been a Cleanrot knight attempting to rescue Miquella from Mohg, as Mohg likely left through the branches as we know he can fly using the Bloodboon ritual, and it’s likely this Knight was the sacrifice for the ritual, muttering something like “Miquella… my beloved” as he bled out (further confirmation is that of everyones immense love or respect toward Miquella)

[@Nationaliberty]

6:30 Actually it's probably in reverse, the scarlet rot transforms regular dogs into mutated dogs, then into those disfigured giant dogs and then into crows, it's not muscle memory that causes them to hit the ground, it's conditioning, the rot is affecting their brain. There aren't any crows in the game that I remember, so my theory is crows are servants of rot, they get the ability to fly and hair in turn.

[@buggy5079]

"it's not muscle memory that causes them to hit the ground, it's conditioning, the rot is affecting their brain." no offense but that doesnt make sense, i dont understand how you could gain new memory, the dogs have sharp teeth, there would be no reason to hit your face in the ground.

[@Nationaliberty]

@@buggy5079 it's not new memory, it's conditioning, the rabies virus does this exact same thing, it removes certain thought processes from the animal and forces him to act a certain way, there's a fungus that forces ants to behave like a breeding nest for the fungus, and a parasitic worm that infects snails and forces them out of hiding, by modifying their cerebral capacity, it can give them certain orders, or patterns, or new thought processes, or anything in between really. The point of the dogs hitting the ground is part of the process, giving them that reflex so that when they become a fully made crow they can use it.

[@PureConsoleGamers]

Just a theory I wanted to share with you: It seems fairly obvious to me that the second Round Table Hold that you find in Leyndell is the in the current timeline and the one Melina brings you to is in the past since the one in Leyndell is identical but dilapidated. The biggest clue to this is the description of the Coded Sword that is found upon the throne of the Two Fingers in the Leyndell version of the Round Table Hold: "Hidden sword once granted to the Tarnished of the Roundtable by the Two Fingers. A formless cipher comprises its blade, which deals holy damage no shield can repel. Champions would gather at the Roundtable Hold in days long past, when the Two Fingers were masters of oration, their flesh yet full of vigor." Its not a secret that many believe that Ranni the Witch is Melina, and time travel would highly support this since Ranni’s real body is long dead. So Melina could be the past version of Ranni. In my theory, the event of the shattering actually fragmented reality itself, making different times as well as realities collide. I believe some characters are aware of this phenomenon, and some are not. Possible effected characters: Melina: Melina is Ranni Support for this theory is: 1) Ranni has a ghostly figure next to her that shares an eye with her, the eye is closed and would match Melina’s closed eye, it even has a similar symbol underneath. 2) Both Ranni and Melina fade away in similar fashion. 3) Both Ranni and Melina know Torrent Millicent: I think Millicent is Malenia, either from the past or from an alternate reality. Her ‘sisters’ could be from alternative realities as well (making 6 versions in all, more on that later) support for this theory includes: 1) her missing the same arm 2) her knowing the water foul dance 3) Gowry saying “No, she must embark on her journey, and stare her fate in the eye.” when speaking of her visiting Malenia at the Halig Tree. 4) Millicent believes she is related to Malenia in some way but can’t even ponder it herself, even mentioning she might be an “offshoot” of some kind. 5) Gowry when speaking of her death and personal decision to take out the needle he remarks “Millicent... Malenia... Do you detest us, so utterly?” of course he can be speaking of 2 people, but with everything else in consideration it can certainly be seen both ways. All of this of course would mean that Gowry is aware of the fragmentation of reality. Goldmask: I believe Goldmask is part of a paradox within the fragmented reality. Him wanting to study the Golden Order leads him to actually creating it! His ‘mending rune of perfect order’ would end up becoming the ‘Golden order’ An interesting revelation I had is that Goldmask is very similar to the 2 fingers, as he does not speak and moves his arms (and fingers) in a method of communication. Brother Corhyn even mentions this a few times. Other loose possibilities: Abducted Miquella is from the past alternate reality as he is in his seedling form before he was able to sprout into the Haligtree Jar Barin becomes Alexander when he absorbs his heart. One of the more important parts of my theory is that every alternative reality is governed by each of the six endings or (ages) being the perfect number as I mentioned earlier there are six alternate versions of Malenia/Millicent. Each possible age all ready has influence in the lands between even though they have not happened yet as they are all part of this fragmented timeline and clash of alternate realities. When an NPC invades it does so from another world or ‘reality’ the Urd tree and minor Urd trees act as conduits to the link between these worlds explaining why when you kill Urd Tree Avatars certain NPC invaders can no longer invade. When the Urd tree is set ablaze the the link is weakened causing the fire to seep into the time rift which results in the past version of the round table hold burning down, leading to it’s eventual current state that you find it in Leyndell. Another thought is about Melina's hands: Melina has scar tissue on her hands. This could mean she has been the burning maiden before in previous ages, she keeps trying to fix the broken timeline, in every age (alternate reality).

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

Morgot's weapons of light would definitely be cool incantations for faith builds. Wondered if they would appear as since the same concept exists for magic users with the Carian spells. Hopefully that could be an addition with DLC. Also the origins of species in the game definitely could lead to more interesting discoveries. I recently talked with one of my friends about the Norse mythology aspects in the game and he pointed out that he also noticed the idea of Animism in the world's physical make up. The body and hands becoming living creatures had similar logic behind the origin story of Ymir. Ever wonder why as time goes on species get smaller? In Norse mythology it's because life came from one great giant and divided into smaller beings that became the gods that divided further and became humans and elves and every other creature. It's also interesting to note that Ymir also became the world itself. His bones the mountains, blood the sea, hair the grass and trees, skull the dome of the sky and thoughts the clouds. With all the references to parts of the body in this game it appears to have some circulation to this idea. Could the lands between be made from the body of even larger primordial giants the same way Farum Azula beastmen seem to be entwined and part of the land and architecture in those areas? And why is each area in the game so environmentally linked to the beliefs of each Demi god that presides over them? Calid and the mountaintops are full of imagery of giants becoming part of the land, and knowing From Soft the symbolism definitely means something. If you'd like to go looking in that direction I'd definitely point you towards the Giant Ymir's story. My theory is that this might mean that the setting is telling us that we may be in the mind of a very large entity. Or like the world is on the back of a giant turtle in Hindu mythology.

[@shawnseagraves1070]

The mountains of the giants looks like a giant preserved tree, look it up. Kinda cool

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

@@shawnseagraves1070 Yeah, I've heard of this. It's like a tree stump of a vastly larger tree than even the Erdtree. This game loves to play with scale and remind us that the world is far larger that what we think we see.

[@just70hq]

This has to be one of the most interesting ones yet. I’m amazed at the amount of things that the community has been able to consistently uncover since February. Also those mushroom pics at the end had me dying 🤣🤣

[@eetfuk3571]

the mushrooms are the exact reason I'm watching this video.

[@nerfer200]

The Snake on the Coiled Shield appears to be a Bush Snake, specifically a Spotted Bush Snake as both have similar design patterns.

[@dynamicflashy]

Observation: I think the Caelid dogs mutated from wolves. For example, there are white giant dogs who howl to alert the others. Just like with the white wolves.

[@WithinandThroughout]

I feel like serpents have always been weak to lighting in mythology. kind of like the trope "beasts hate fire".

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

When you get down to it everything is weak to lightning lol

[@cheeky_casual]

I really feel like Morgott's weapons of Light would be cool to have as an incantation version of the Carian sword sorceries and the Gavel of Haima.

[@daugpileproductions]

I love these videos. I always keep Warming Stones equipped. When I summon my mimic, it will use the stones as it wants. My supply of warming stones, never decreases.

[@Izolith6767]

i loved the mushroom theory, it's like the golden tree is a parasite that uses conflict to strength itself, the more i play, the more it looks like it

[@lorenzo8208]

There are quite a few names that have a meaning, in elden ring. I have not heard anyone saying them though, but I'll just say the one I've found to be the most interesting to me. It's not official, though, and it might be unintentional, but who knows? The word "haima" (found in the haima crown and in the 2 haima spells) is an ancient greek word : "τό αἷμα", read as "to haima". "To" is the neutral article, but the word itself has weird meanings for a word connected to battlemages: it means (from most used to least used) "blood", "massacre", "bloodline", "kinship" and "wine" in Christian ancient greek (you can guess why). Also, I'm referring to mainly atheniese ancient greek, since it's the most used nowadays in topics like medicine. If anyone wants to correct me, I will greatly appreciate it.

[@AzraelxMaizaVA]

Here's a fun physics fact for you - silver is actually the greatest (or one of, at least) conductors of electricity that we know of. Elden Ring displays this through the silver tears - if you use lightning on one, the chip damage will spread to any other silver tears in close proximity, and spreads further through water than usual.

[@MK-vi2cm]

One thing that solidifies the mushroom theory is the mushroom armor set we can find. Every armor piece has a greater purpose in the world of their games. Like the eclipse on those knights in DS3. I think the subtle approach to outer gods and mushrooms is solid. You should make a video on Ranni's mushroom similarities and the Nox Helm and Iji's helm and how they relate to mushrooms/funguses.

[@LeedleLee457]

Those Miquella/Silkworm and Ranni/Indigo milk cap mushroom theories are really interesting! Honestly one of the best discoveries anyone has made in a while!

[@M.A.R.S.]

Bro you gotta go over that "bridge connecting the mountaintops and Caelid" thing, that interested me more than the dogs!

[@pancakke08]

Same! I was so caught off guard and intrigued lol

[@dreamsleeper1568]

I think Miquella slipped into the tree, as a spirit and left his body, which could explain why he never responded to mohg. He never truly lefty, he absconded his empyrean flesh but fell into a deep slumber, I think right before when we reach melania’s second boss encounter, the golden leaf’s blow, we slowly gaze into the tree almost hypnotic like, giving her a second wind, And considering she floats right above the trees face is possibly telling us he was watching the entire fight, unable to move, but able to see everything even from a dream.

[@The-Spanish-Inquisition490]

I would also add to invasions that even on NG+ when you lose your graces you can still invade anywhere. Also there appears to be a bug, I'm 170 and am able to invade as low as level 50s! In limgrave first step grace. I have also invade 250s. I have messaged everyone I found to easy/difficult about what level they where revealing my level first and they claimed to he anywhere from 50 - 250 (again I'm 170) Can anyone else confirm or have the same experience?

[@PerfectlyLost]

I swear to god... I need one of these facts to be mushroom related Edit: I was not dissapointed

[@retromancer3892]

Late but as if Placidusax couldn't be any more freaking cool, glory be the ancient Dragons!

[@timothytbh486]

Adding "Miquella becoming a moth-themed demigod" to my "please FromSoft i need this" list

[@Clearmybowl24l7]

for the golden weapons from morgott what if when u defeated margit he drops along with the talisman pouch, an idol or something thats called margits will and its like the infants head using fp for an attack but it randomizes which golden weapon you get and you can only get two when killing margit. For example u kill margit and he drops the item and then u get randomly chosen to get two out of the 3 weapons he uses (the hammer, the dagger, or the sword) You use the item and it will either use the dagger as a throwing, the sword as melee (and you can use light attack to continue on to do a combo) or you can get the hammer and its a mini swing and then jump and slam. All three do decent dmg and dont take that long to start up but you only get access to 2 and its random which one you use when you use it. The highest dmg btu slowest is the hammer, and the fastest but lower dmg is the dagger. Then after you beat morgott esscence fills the idol and it upgrades (upgrades dmg too) and then you could do all 4 attacks and the last one that would be added is the spear. Which you swing in a circle then slam it down to the ground to create a mini morgott raining spear attack that lats like 6 seconds. Instead of randomizing when you use the item it will use them in a cycle and maybe you could edit it to change the cycle. idk im really high after a 2 day T break and just thought of this shit off the top of my head would be cool tho.

[@222LoneWolf]

The point about Caelid and the Giants' mountains being connected at one point is super helpful, since it may help explain why both areas have giant skeleton-rocks emerging from the ground for one reason or another. I had been chalking those up to being either an element of the supernatural rot or Godwyn's undead influence, but perhaps the giants may have also played a role.

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

If you speculate on the nature of what the Elden Ring represents you might find an interesting correlation with the lands between itself also representing a ring or a spiral. The ring being a metaphysical representation of the rules that govern life and the life cycle it creates. At one point the Giants mountains and Farum Azula could've been connected, and like the ring of a life cycle, it was broken at the point of death before rebirth. So if Farum Azula is a domain of death, the Lands between must represent life as a ring as one climbs and grows with the spiral of its landscape, until death forms a loop in the ring of the life cycle and resets it back to the beginning. If that's what that is, it's genius.

[@222LoneWolf]

@@Dan_ModernDayViking If one wants to go even further down the philosophy route, the concept of rings and spirals may also be thematically connected to the "ensō" symbol (an isolated circle, often drawn in one or two brush strokes, and that can be closed or open to represent different ideas) prominently featured in Japanese calligraphy. Such symbols have been connected to many Zen ideas and concepts that could also be applied to Elden Ring's themes in interesting ways.

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

@@222LoneWolf Thanks! That's a really cool insight. Been looking for connections to Buddhism in the game's themes to connect with these ideas. Definitely will look into its meanings further.

[@darkhobo]

The giants themselves vary in sizes to a huge degree. The massive skeletons we see would indicate they at some point ruled over the entire eastern side of the map.

[@christiankettlewell]

God I love watching stuff about Elden Ring and listening to Metroid music at the same time. This channel is for me specifically lol

[@avalanche4815]

Say, do you know which song starts playing around 8:03? I wasn't able to find it.

[@christiankettlewell]

@@avalanche4815 I really wanna say it’s from Super Metroid. I skipped around and listened to both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime’s soundtrack to try to find it for you, but I can’t either

[@christiankettlewell]

@@avalanche4815 yoooo I found it! It’s Lower Brinstar (Underground Depths) from Super Metroid 😎

[@christiankettlewell]

@@avalanche4815 sorry for all the comments but I listened closer and I really think it’s the version from the CD that came with the Metroid 2: Samus Returns remake for 3DS, called Samus Archives Sound Selection. It’s track 7, “Lower Brinstar”

[@avalanche4815]

@@christiankettlewell Thanks a lot man.

[@therewego7881]

The Miquella and Silk Worm theory is super interesting to me so I tried to do a bit of research. I didn't find much, but there is a Yokai by the name of Shinchū, which are silkworm moths that consume evil spirits and demons, *particularly* ones that spread disease. I don't know if there's anything there, but I thought it was interesting.

[@Ziostorm]

Hmm that’s very interesting

[@SocraTetris]

Miquella is connected to the Nascent Butterfly as Melania is to the Aeonian, and Melina may be connected to the crimson/fire butterflies. Nascent meaning dormant or potential, and as a chemistry term means the beginning or becoming reactive. Fits fits the themes of Miquella and of alchemy

[@Dan_ModernDayViking]

If you speculate on the nature of what the Elden Ring represents you might find an interesting correlation with the lands between itself also representing a ring or a spiral. The ring being a metaphysical representation of the rules that govern life and the life cycle it creates. At one point the Giants mountaintops and Farum Azula could've been connected, and like the ring of a life cycle, it was broken at the point of death before rebirth. So if Farum Azula is a domain of death, the Lands between must represent a lifetime as a ring as one climbs and grows with the spiral of its landscape. That is until death forms a loop in the ring of the life cycle and resets it back to the beginning. Caelid is the beginning of the spiral and the mushrooms represent new life from death. That's how it makes sense reaching the mountaintops as the other side before death in a life cycle. And like the rune of death being removed, Farum Azula is also displaced from its original location forming a break in the loop. If that's what that is, it's genius.

[@clearlypellucid]

The "nascent butterflies" are Miquella's "bug." "Nascent" basically means something like "youthful and full of promise."

[@aiellamori]

I wish there was a similar enemy to the bell women in Bloodborne in some of, if not all, the dungeons in Elden Ring. That way, if they don't find and kill them quick enough, solo players can be invaded in dungeons only, just not in the open world

[@ChristianKnight-1054]

These enemies were super annoing i'm glad they're not in Elden Ring

[@Brynloch]

I've been keeping up with every single one of these discovery videos since a video of yours was recommended to me about a month or two after ER's release, and I find both your voice quite relaxing, but also the fact that I love love love to see all these different speculations and little hidden details that you showcase. Keep it up, dude.

[@jipowap]

The setting might be a succession of diminishing world trees. The lands between being the original heartwood and the mentions other lands being the outer layer, then a large tree that was the mountaintop of the giants, and then the Great Tree. The diminishing stopped when the Great Tree was not allowed to die under Marika's care, instead being swallowed up by the Elden Beast's Erd shroom. This is reflected in the stature of man as well, we start with the fire giants, then trolls, then Godfrey and gladiator sized humans, then humans proper, and the next era was already emerging in the vulgar militia pygmies.

[@PhoebusApollo]

I started my first ng+ just before the patch, so I was mid exploring the world again, and my near/far invasion range is the entire game (all catacombs/mines and I basically ignored these in NG+, endgame areas I'm not back to yet). So if there is an exploration requirement for near/far invasions it looks like you don't need to re-explore the world in NG+ cycles to expand that range for invading.

[@redlord8438]

I started my first ng+ shortly before the patch that let you keep your bell bearings

[@0malleyAlleyc4t]

*Miquella the Mothman* It’d be fucked if FromSoft added a collapsing bridge on the way in to his arena if we face him in dlc

[@chachawawa3722]

The discoveries never end :()

[@LlamaPotato]

I think I got one! Go into someone's world as a cooperator and take a look at your eyes, specifically your iris. You tell me that the Iris of your eyes doesn't look exactly like the "lords rune" consumable. If you agree then the idea that runes come from the eyes may explain why everyone's eyes are gouged out. X_X

[@agathena4833]

I also found a small detail while playing the game. During Boc's questline , you find him in the coastal cave writhing in pain. If you cast heal near him he will become more silent ( as if part of his pain is relieved ) . Reloading the game cancels this action tho . I know its a really small detail , but I found it very interesting !

[@ragnarlothbrok3781]

hi zio i just want to say keep up and i love your content and the effort you put in it (sorry for my english not my 1st language)

[@biscuit2595]

Something I noticed is that the rot infested growth (the big white things) in Caelid actually bleeds when you attack it. I thought it was and interesting detail and I'm pretty sure it's not a glitch. It might have something to do with how the god of rot lives within anything the rot infests, kind of like the fell god with the giants. It could also correlate with Elden Ring's themes of life within death. Like, the rot kills things but it also creates new life in a twisted way, like with the dogs and crows. I just thought it was cool and maybe someone better at lore hunting could look more in depth at it.

[@Micolashcage1]

Theory on why the giant Caelid dogs are evolved forms of the birds maybe this is the step of evolution in ER: Dragon --> bird (stormhawk for example) --> Beast ---> Demi Human ---> human

[@stargazer3640]

Ranni’s name could be a reference to the Greek name Rania, short for Urania, who was a muse associated with astrology.

[@darkhobo]

Ranni means Queen. Ranni is Carian Queen. (Rennala is dead btw) Ranni's Darkmoon spell tells us its the spell of the Carian Queen. Yeah

[@sergiastream1597]

@@darkhobo Rennala doesn’t die, that’s why she remains as an NPC after her fight.

[@ChristianKnight-1054]

@@darkhobo Ranni isn't Carian Queen and Rennala is not dead

[@darkhobo]

@@ChristianKnight-1054 Ranni's Darkmoon spell "Legendary sorcery associated with the Carian queen. Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a cold, dark moon, then sends it floating toward foes. The dark moon dispels all sorcery that touches it, and temporarily reduces magic damage negation for those it strikes. This moon was encountered by a young Ranni, led by the hand of her mother, Rennala. What she beheld was cold, dark and veiled in occult mystery." It says right there that its the Carian Queen's spell. Not the Lunar Princess's spell. Which means that Ranni is Carian Queen. Which means... Rennala is also of course still there after we defeat her and take her remembrance. She is also Barefoot which is characteristic of suicide particularly in Japan. And we all know she isn't exactly in the greatest place mentally after Radagon leaves. Haven't you wondered why Ranni was raised by an Ice Witch and not by her mother? Or why Rennala's personal Queens Guard just up and defected to join Miquella? Because Rennala is dead. Play the fight again. The whole first phase, Rennala is floating. Like she is being held up by marionette strings (she is a puppet after all) and the second phase is Ranni using her mothers ashes to create a Rennala Spirit Summon. Theres even a bell ringing just before Rennala reappears as a blue spirit summon. Ranni of course gave us the ability to summon spirits in the first place. She is the puppet master. The majority of her forces are puppets. She is a puppet herself. Selvius is a puppet. Pidia makes puppets. The Rennala we fight is a puppet of Ranni. 100% no doubt in my mind. Nothing tells you this. This is all environmental storytelling. Just because no one says this in dialogue doesn't mean it's not true.

[@ChristianKnight-1054]

@@darkhobo She is only floating when she is in the golden circle

[@nopizzawithoutpineapple]

Excited for the REALLY obscure stuff along the lines of the ultra rare chalice dungeon enemy in Bloodborne

[@errantvice7335]

I like the light roll change for Malenia, it fits with the blue dancer lore, and his charm 0:

[@lolmikuq8750]

Something from soft love to do as well as attention to detail is nerfing the protag, I've seen it through multiple souls games via cut content. awesome abilities removed from final content, bosses removed npc's that helps understand the lore more efficiently, cool armors and weapons totally removed...

[@yusharizvi]

After completing Elden Ring, I feel empty like I can never be so engrossed in a game again. It's lore, deadly land, beautiful scenery and endless ways to fight is something which I will never forget. It's my first Soul game and boy I am a fan now. Hats off to From Software and it's creativity! I wish there will be a new title soon so that I can be frustratingly happy again. All the games I played till now since 2006(the year when I played my 1st pc game), this game will forever stick with me in my memory. I finished the whole game and after ending it I still roam the land between!

[@PersianGhost]

In case people did not know, if you are a fan of Aspects of Crucible incantations, you can get damage boosts by every piece of Crucible Knight armor that you wear, Similar to how you get damage boost for Omen Bairn by wearing dung eaters armor pieces. Hope this helps

[@michaellloyd4654]

The underside of Ranni's hat looks like a mushroom

[@noneayourbusiness5149]

One more detail on the invasion pool - it's based on all playthroughs, not your current one. I'm on NG+, and I'm puttering around the early areas, looking for stuff I missed on my first playthrough. But when I did an invasion, I got pulled to Crumbling Faram - a zone I was No Where Near reaching with my current playthrough.

[@naterussell3615]

Love seeing your uploads

[@chainsawjinkins4074]

Terence McKenna would be proud of your shroom theory haha. Love it dude

[@Ziostorm]

Lol

[@dominiccasts]

YOOO I didn't even think about Waterfowl dance when I saw that dodge distance change, but now I'm genuinely excited to fight her again (which is good timing, as my current run just got to her boss gate). This is also handy because of BHS nerfs, though I expect that doing the "go left, dodge right" tactic with BHS will still work just fine, just the "step away 4-5" approach won't

[@dominiccasts]

Ugh, never mind. She's just as miserable to fight as ever.

[@boom-jr8vi]

@@dominiccasts Mood.

[@X9Z17]

Yes, the Scarlet Rot somehow caused a birds feathers to become fur, its shoulders to migrate down to the front of its chest, it to lose a beak with a nose just to gain another nose somehow under it, grow an extra toe and lose another the one on the back of the foot, and ears. A little research goes a long way, c’mon bruhhhh 🤣

[@buggy5079]

ye and Malenia grows wings because of rot. also not scientitifcaly accurate.. and the crows literelly have teeth...

[@morgoth615]

Wait I'm a little confused, how do we know there was a bridge between the Mountaintops of the Giants and caelid? I mean there is the divine bridge (which isn't even a bridge in game) which indicates maybe a bridge between leyndell and limgrave (hence malenia and godrick's battle), but what's going on with caelid?

[@ALINAGORI]

4:27 Banished Knights also get High Damage from Lightning , maybe because of all the Metal Armor

[@marchereve3280]

Everybody else : long and complexe mythologie research Zionstorm : mushroom Keep UP the good work you and all loremasters~ lova'all

[@hhowdy]

We just want a DLC😔

[@SagaVonDrusus]

Not likely to be out this year

[@raider_reaper_4194]

I havent even beat the game 🤫

[@thedankswordsmantm]

I still hate that lightning scales in dex and not faith.

[@JazzyUnderscoreTrumpeter]

Seriously captivating thumbnail, good job on that one

[@nahuelherradon7790]

"The birds migrated to the north" Lol. Pleaseee!

[@DeathxStrike18]

Honestly Melania needs to be balanced so that more loadouts are viable things like Bloodhound step and Light loadouts shouldnt be what a boss is built around. A simple fix could be a delay for her waterfowl or prevent it from triggering when next to her and be more of a gap closer type ability.

[@blackbomber72]

Addition to the light roll, even if you use heavy armor, if you equip your Physik with Winged Crystal Tear, found on the north of the capital outskirts, will make you light load for 3 minutes, giving you the best of both worlds.

[@DERyuga]

The dog and crow theory is like... completely baseless. Its a better example of how the mutations of the scarlet rot have a similar effect on different species than them being the same species

[@inakilukac]

Yup same, personally i think that both of those enemy types used to be ravens and dogs. And their similarities are meant to show how the scarlet rot is sort of decaying and melding everything together, transforming everything into being more similar to everything else.

[@TSpoon823]

ThingFishy has a great video about the new light roll and Waterfowl as well. I'm still convinced there's a way to dodge it up close on medium load without the 360 run first. If you do WFD with Malenia's sword and no FP, you can see the path the blade takes, and I think you should be able to reliable roll through/around the first flurry up close. Also, I'm here for all the Miquella lore speculation. I never really paid attention to the painting in the intro but those are totally moth wings on his back! Malenia the butterfly and Miquella the moth is so intriguing. Also, his arm is super skinny and looks like a shorter, slightly deformed version of the one in Mogh's palace. I never noticed before. I think Mogh was communing with Miquella through a blood ritual, trying to grow him artificially to speed up the arrival of his "dynasty" when we interrupt him. Thinking it's anyone but Miquella is too far of a stretch in my opinion. I know From likes to be obtuse but sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.

[@Sasha.Z.]

The most amazing thing for me is, there are such dedicated people who notice or explore in such details every little thing in the game... I have over 800 hours so far in ELDEN RING on both my accounts, and never read or care for any of these. I see enemies and destroy them. No more no less. Never thought deeper into their back story origins or whatsoever.

[@janaguirre4756]

I never used BH step. I never found it so i had to learn hot to dodge the water fowl dance. Usually run away for the first 2 hits then when she leaps forward for the third, dodge into her attack so she over shoots

[@deeptroit_5692]

i could imagine that miquella‘s cocoon is the dlc entry. it is early accesable but really really hard to get to on low level.

[@Italianchef26]

The crow dog thing would make sense if the dogs had more crow like behaviors, but some of them even howl I think

[@FLUFFYHAWAIIAN747]

Did you know that the "Flame cleanse me" incantation can kill you? Since you're burning yourself to cure the poison buildup, it counts as damage

[@BudravenOG]

I wonder if there is a real life mythological origin for the crow/dog mutants. I mean, this isn't the first time this theme has been explored in a Fromsoft game. There are dog-headed crow and crow-headed dogs in Bloodborne... could be a mix between the persian Simurgh and the norse crows & wolves... or a maybe a norse version of a griffin... idk i'll keep digging for something feasible. EDIT: In Danish folklore, a Valravn is a supernatural raven. ...Other accounts describe valravns as monsters that are half-wolf and half-raven

[@Ziostorm]

That’s a very good point

[@amendersc1650]

to dodge the waterfall dance, sprint to the other direction for the two first segments, the roll into the third. for me it works like 50% of the time but thats cause i am bad at timing

[@deckerzx]

Who ever designed those giant dogs was heavily inspired by Scappy-Doo from the live action Scooby-Doo movie

[@PRchris13]

Fun fact there are 3 butterflies One is sleep and like night , which similar to miquela One is rot - Melenia And last one is fire like being burned …. Melina Maybe Melina was sister of miquela and Melenia

[@ToadimusPrime]

In terms of the 3 sisters by Solo Marika, they all have insect references, and all are in forms of butterflies. Malenia is the Aeonian Butterfly, Miquella is the Nascent Butterfly (nascent - coming into existence; Miquella is forever a child and potentially evolving), and Smoldering Butterfly is Melina (Melina was killed by Maliketh's Black Flame, and the smoldering butterfly is obviously burning)

[@lamb4078]

Love your content man! I always think I've seen every theory but 100% of your videos reveal something new

[@lovewilcox6874]

FYI areas added to your far invasion pool carry over into NG+ 👍

[@内田ガネーシュ]

Miquella turning into Mothra is some thing I am complete for.

[@KedarOthort]

Considering how large fungi can get by spreading underground and some other things the mushroom idea actually... Sounds pretty spot on. Especially if you think of the armillaria mushroom that likes to infest trees.

[@shawnseagraves1070]

What if when the greater will sent the ring and beast down the power of it took over the original tree and made the erdtree?

[@shawnseagraves1070]

Also wasn’t the age of dragons a thing? Where the dragons were the dominant being in the lands between? Lichdragon was their version of an Elden lord right?

[@damianford2637]

ziostorm can you make a narrative video on the cronologic order of events before we get there? Im mostly curious about the golden order and radagon in relation to the war against the other nations I love your videos and keep up the great work!

[@Ziostorm]

Nope. I’m going to be honest I don’t fully understand the timeline😂

[@christopherlyndsay8611]

Lmao fr no one is. That’s honestly my biggest gripe in the game - that there’s no chronology for events in-game

[@TehSymbiote]

you've been doing great bro, keep it up!

[@porteroffinland]

Keep these coming dude, i need em

[@AC-hj9tv]

Lol the dogs and crows part

[@aiellamori]

1:46 not true, you could even do it on a fat roll amd and dodge waterfowl dance flawlessly. You just need good spacing beforehand, because avoiding the first flurry outright without dodging is more than easy enough, the active hithox on the second flurry lasts like a second it feels like, and doing absolutely nothing almost for the third one will just have her miss you completely because of the weird movement

[@eclecticveil]

Confidently incorrect

[@aiellamori]

@@eclecticveil I'm speaking from experience, I've even recorded myself doing it for a friend to learn how to do it

[@eclecticveil]

@@aiellamori confidentially incorrect

[@keava]

there's no way the dogs and crows could be the same species, considering the dogs have actual mammalian features that birds just couldn't have even if you make the excuse that they've been distorted by rot. i think it's worth noting that no other rot-afflicted creatures exhibit any sort of mutation from scarlet rot except for the ones suffering from it like ekzykes, the rotten strays, rot afflicted zombies, etc. neither the birds nor the dogs deal any sort of rot damage, so it can be assumed they're not universally afflicted what's more realistic to the dogs being formerly birds is that the dogs emulate the crows' behaviors, since they appear similar and are constantly found in the same environments. dogs and many other animals are known to do this when exposed to other species they've grown up with

[@mitchellscott9767]

I like these vids... keep up the good work...and I just subbed!!!!

[@captaincrooked9051]

I'd have to hard disagree on the theory about the caelid dogs and birds being the same species, their only similarity is their big head and how they use their big heads. Their arms are in completely different positions in where they connect to their torso's, and your comment about birds not having teeth shows you've clearly never looked at a goose's mouth, they have teeth on their beaks and even their tongues have teeth. Now as for something I noticed recently when I was playing through Farum Azula, Placidusax when you look at him looks like, before he became mangled and disheveled as he is when we fight him, looks like he had golden skin. And, interestingly, imbedded into the some of the cliffs in the environment of Farum Azula, there appears to be either statues or corpses of dragons, who also appear to have golden skin. And this may hold an interesting connection or rivalry with the Godskin Apostles. Recently there came a video translated the latin lyrics of the Godskin Apostles OST, where one of the descriptors used in the lyrics about them hunting godly skin, was a lyric describing the godly skin they are after as golden skin. This could imply that Placidusax's fall from his status as Elden Lord may of been at the hands of the Godskin Apostles.

[@pancakke08]

I hate to burst your bubble but there is no real translation for the godskin apostle ost. As cool as it is, that guy did in-fact make up the translations. Ironically i believe zio made a vid covering it.

[@calebnixon4307]

I really can’t think of a reason they cut the Mogott weapons. Especially the hammer, just use the Gavel of Haimia animations!

[@AngryPainting]

Glad Morgot’s summoned weapons were cut because if made available people would complain to no end that those are OP or something and must be nerfed

[@judelinj.9957]

For the Abductor Virgins you can actually stagger them with lightening arrows

[@gewzer]

When I first saw Rannis design I thought she looked like a jellyfish and this was post network test so seeing spirit jellyfish I figured the two were connected somehow lol

[@imafirinmahlazahr]

Light rolls already carried you further than medium rolls, they just carry you even further now.

[@Sinastyr]

Elden Ring as a gateway to mycology

[@dasninjastix]

I really wish they would add mild changes (mostly of items) for new game plus. I almost feel like NG+ is a more satisfying experience being able to play the game with weapons, skills, and spells that you're now familiar with and have upgraded. It'd of been cool to have item swaps for things that are either redundant or capped, like seeds, tears, and memory stones. New, exclusive items, even if they don't translate to much gameplay-wise would be so appreciated.

[@violettreglio2933]

The golden seeds especially are annoying because even without going into ng+ you can collect more than you can use. You can't even sell them for runes. I think it'd be cool if you could exchange them with an npc in exchange for special items, kinda like dragon hearts, starlight shards, or deathroot.

[@THE_MOONMAN]

Honestly being naked with a collosal sword(light rolling plus big sword and some incantations) is the strongest I've ever felt in the game. I definitely was getting more damage out of dual greatsword(blasphemous blade+ sword of Milos) but with the godslayers great sword on a medium equip load, I just never get hit. My rolling is ridiculous and then they even increased the attack speed of "strength based weapons" which technically, god slayers happens to be even though it favours Dex. The only time I've ever felt stronger was the one time I tried using RoB on a faith build. It was still more powerful than my build which has been buffed into Valhalla. I'm just so happy that noone ever experienced the aids of light rolling plus rivers of blood. That would just suck balls to defend against in PvP. And honestly even sounds kinda broken for pve

[@milokonna]

I always interpreted Miquella "wing" in the intro, as his elbow.

[@rosarialeah]

I'm betting those golden weapons would function like the int weapon spells but for faith.

[@uuop9940]

i hate that it took for people THAT long to know that you can dodge waterfowl with light load easily(even before the patch it was the same way that showed in the video). there is also a way to dodge it from up close with medium roll although it is a lot harder: you do the same thing that is showed in the video but you need to time it right that you end up rolling at the place when you started. you unlock run around quickly and dodge two times(the only reall hard attack of her waterfowl is the start because you cant roll through it- you can roll through the second and get out of range from the third) there is a video that perfectly demonstrate that and it is called How to Dodge Malenia's Waterfowl Dance/Flurry Attack with ONLY Light/Med. Roll - Elden Ring

[@ngg4399]

The T-Rex dogs are also in the Mountaintops of the Giants. :)