Zoom G3Xn - Demo of the different Amp Models

[@MikeSteinSeaTac]

I own the Zoom G3 and G5n. I've been pulling my hair out trying to get satisfactory tones from the G5n. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. It's incredibly helpful !

[@Tone-Quest]

My pleasure Mike, glad it is helpful to some.

[@accentontheoff]

Do you perceive a big difference between the G5n and the G3 in terms of audio quality.

[@leifjoshuainfante6367]

Hello sir. Can i ask if what is the equivalent drive pedal of the "DYN drive" in zoom g3xn. Is it the Fulltone OCD? Thank you so much😄.

[@sachinsun1]

Thanks for this great video....would you still recommend Zoom G3XN in 2022? As I am leaning to buy G3XN..

[@Tone-Quest]

Hhhhhhmmm, good question. Though I still like the Zoom effects pedals, I would say that now there are a lot of great alternatives that I would probably buy over the Zoom G3XN. As an example, I think the NUX MG-400 is great unit, also the Valeton GP-200 and the GP-200LT look like a great value multi-effects with great sounds. Another great choice would be the Mooer GE200. Most newer multi-effects allow you to load your own impulse responses (IR’s) but the Zoom G3XN doesn’t support third party IR’s. I hope that helps a little. Cheers.

[@clouds5]

@@Tone-Quest That's it. The actual tone, modeling and effects of the Zoom g3xn are absolutely great and on par with more modern and expensive devices. The downside is the cab-sim/IRs. They are somewhat mediocre and don't have enough options. But if you're using a real cabinet (like a clean amp) or have a separate cab-sim/IR loader device (like the Mooer radar) the g3xn is one of the best bang for you buck modeler/multi-effect devices. I mostly use my G3xn into the clean channel of a Blackstar amp and it sounds very good. Compared it to a lot of more modern devices and there is simply no reason to upgrade. But if you're going to use it as a standalone unit direct to PA, there are more complete options.

[@williammolina9792]

Hey. Do you think it's worth to change my zoom G3X for this one. I'm only going to use the modulations. Effects. Like Phaser. Flanger.. Reverb. Delay etc. Through the loop effect of my tube amp. Cheers

[@Tone-Quest]

If it was me I don’t think I would change from a G3X to a G3Xn if you are only using modulation in an effects loop, unless you found a great deal for a G3Xn. I know brand new in the US they are selling for $249. For that kind of money, I would be tempted to check out the Hotone Ampero mini…or maybe checkout the Zoom G2 Four, which runs $200 brand new.

[@100roberthenry]

theres something weird about the zooms dirts, its like there isnt enough pick attack, especially on the lower notes its very wooly/flabby low end...it lacks the bite when mute chugging, its like its covered in a wooly blanket on the low strings....ive tried a few zoom pedals, and they have always been the same, even with nice humbuckers.....very strange.

[@jazzydog]

You are the best demoing all this zoom pedal Sir. Really helpful!! Thanks.

[@Tone-Quest]

Thanks, very kind of you to say so. Just trying to share and help others out. 8-)

[@adakhochalai]

excellent presentation and demo!! thanks for the review

[@Tone-Quest]

Thank you sir!

[@pedr0p0lis]

Great demo, thanks for taking the time and making it.

[@Tone-Quest]

Peter Cook Thanks, my pleasure

[@3chordguy]

Hi, may I know why you didnt include the Matchless DC30?

[@Tone-Quest]

Sure, either it wasn’t available at the time or I just selected some of the amps and happened not to pick the Matchless DC30. It wasn’t skipped on purpose.

[@3chordguy]

@@Tone-Quest Thank you for confirming.

[@3chordguy]

@@Tone-Quest Can I ask a qustion please? Since the Mathless DC30 is a combo amp and I am just using an IEM directly connected to the G3XN, adding a cab sim to the dc30 is totally optional right? I just want to confirm that the dc30 is known for its clarity tones as well and the sound I am getting is correct.

[@Tone-Quest]

@@3chordguy Yes, I would say it is option, especially if you are playing it clean. I would say playing dirty usually sounds better with a cab sim. I tend to use a cab sim clean or dirty but I have also played clean without a cab and I thought it sounded fine. If it sounds ok to you, then it is all good.

[@3chordguy]

@@Tone-Quest thank you again, it really sound good to me without the cab, it is the clarity I needed for a very light overdrive close to being clean.

[@ActionlessLoveless]

btw, "British 30A" is VOX AC30

[@Tone-Quest]

Thanks, my information on the amp came from the owners manual.

[@ActionlessLoveless]

@@Tone-Quest so now in 2021, would you still recommend buying it? (not as a main distorsion sound, but as auxiliary chorus/delay/mod thingie)

[@Tone-Quest]

@@ActionlessLoveless Would I recommend buying the Zoom G3Xn for just chorus/delay/mod? Yes but if I was just going to use it for chorus/delay/mod in an effects loop of an amplifier, I would probably buy the Zoom G3n, which runs $169 (USD) new. The Zoom G3n or the Zoom G3Xn would allow you to turn on or off three effects in a patch.

[@ActionlessLoveless]

@@Tone-Quest i was going to buy used for around 100-120, so price not much of an issue here, i was more wondering if you still enjoying how those effects are sounds there, or they got boring quickly

[@Tone-Quest]

@@ActionlessLoveless The effects are still good. They continue to update them and release new ones occasionally

[@afaninku]

i use Boss ME-25, which better between zoom G3XN?

[@Tone-Quest]

afaninku For me, I like the Zoom G3Xn better.

[@kaan_3084]

How can you able to use fender 59 bassman cab sim?I check to website and g3xn dont have bassman cab sim

[@Tone-Quest]

Kaan_ You looked on the G3Xn Effects List? www.zoom-na.com/products/effects-preamps/guitar/zoom-g3xn-multi-effects-processor#downloads 0n Page 13 FD-B4x10 - This models the sound of the Fender '59 Bassman cabinet with four 10" Jensen speakers.

[@modev4163]

Thanx Chris! Do you know what the drive pedals are supposed to be in real life, like is one supposed to be a RAT dist pedal? Trying to get a good early Metalica sound

[@Tone-Quest]

I did a quick check but I didn't see a RAT type pedal but here are some of ones I could identify. TS Drive - Ibanez TS808. EP Stomp - Maestro Echoplex preamp. RC Boost - Xotic RC Booster. GoldDrive - Klon. MetalWRLD - BOSS Metal Zone. HG THRTTL - Mesa Boogie Throttle Box. BG GRID - Mesa Boogie Grid Slammer.

[@Tone-Quest]

Sorry, I just plugged in my Zoom pedal and checked Zoom GuitarLab and there is a distortion pedal that is called the "Squeak" and the description says that the Squeak is modeled after the ProCo RAT.

[@modev4163]

Thanks man i thought so, Squeak, like a rat squeaks lol

[@kol7vlogs555]

Is this sound from guitar tone bridge which avilble in play store?

[@TheLivingRoomStereo]

What is the intro song? Sounds really nice

[@DanBooth]

Great demo, Chris. One question - what's the reasoning for putting reverb in between the amp and cabinet? I always think of reverb as coming last in the chain. Does placement make a big difference?

[@Tone-Quest]

I've been using Zoom Pedals a long time and back when I used the Zoom 2.1nu pedals they had the order of effects fix. On that unit, the last piece of the chain was the cabinet. So I guess that order of effects has stuck with me when I order my effects. I guess also too, if I play a real amp with pedals the very last component is the cabinet and usually I put the reverb in the effects loop. Does it make a difference? It probably make a small difference but not sure it would be overly perceivable but sound like it is a great experiment to try, just to see how big a difference it does make. Easy to do, just will take a little time. Thanks for the great question and for making me think outside of my own box. Cheers!

[@UtoyOnWheels]

you can actually hear the difference when you move the effects within the chain in real time with the G3xn.

[@RobinLull]

the cool thing is, you can easily change the order from the menu.

[@neilswan8015]

does it now have the Bogner red channel too?

[@tonymediati8274]

When using the preamps and cabinets, do you need to connect to the amps effects return loop behind the amp ,what if your amp does not have an effects return loop , can you still get a good sound if you connected straight in the input amp?

[@Tone-Quest]

tony mediati You could do either way. I’ve achieved decent sounds both ways. Going into the return gives less amp (or pre-amp) coloring of tone but you also lose front panel control this way. Going straight into the front of the amp is a little more straight forward but obviously the amp colors the tone more. Another method you could try is not to use a cab on the G3Xn, just use the amp model to be like a pedal you plug into the front of your “real” amp. So many options, just experiment and see what give the best sounds/tones on your amp.

[@tonymediati8274]

Chris Benton Yes i will give it a try using only the preamp without the cabinet plugged in amp input , thanks for your quick and detailed reply.......👍✌️🤘

[@dro3886]

Why do the lower notes sound terrible on my guitar? I have a Greg Bennett AV6. Should I try changing strings? They're pretty old

[@Tone-Quest]

hhhmmmmm... well, if they are pretty old, I would probably start there. I don't think you can go wrong with changing the strings and it will rule them out in case it continues to sound bad. I hope it is the strings, as that is an easy fix. Good luck.

[@pebberbrown]

Does this thing do any CLEAN jazz tones at all or is it all just hard rock and metal tones?

[@Tone-Quest]

I think it can be configured to do clean tones but it does seem to be geared toward rocking out of the box. I think the Digitech RP360XP leans more toward clean tones, while the Zoom pedals lean to dirty tones.

[@nazmoking3171]

Does anybody know if the amps and the cabinets make up 1 each of the 7 effects you can have in a saved preset?

[@Tone-Quest]

I think most amps take up two effects and the cabs take up one effect.

[@nazmoking3171]

Ok thanks Chris!

[@littlebritain64]

Thanks a lot for the video! One question: can this Zoom load external IR? And more, compared to older and more expensive Line6 Pod Live, HD500 and Digitech RP1000, bought on the second hand market, wich one is to be preferred in terms of sound, with all the effects on? Everybody's opinion welcome!

[@Tone-Quest]

littlebritain64 To answer the IR question, unfortunately the answer is no.

[@littlebritain64]

@@Tone-Quest So fast! Thank You!!

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

The G3n must sound very different to the G5n. I don't get any sound even close to these out of my G5n using the factory preset settings that load default..................

[@UtoyOnWheels]

they're just the same.

[@billrand4138]

another possibly daft question,,,is it possible to use this unit in an effects loop? im sure the old ones could but looking at the inputs etc im not sure??

[@Tone-Quest]

Not a daft questions at all. Yes, you could use this in the effects loops but as you probably know... stick with time based effects: reverb, delay, modulation...etc.

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

Great Demo! Your Boost and Tone setting please?

[@RemoteAbductionArm]

Will this sound good in the fx loop? Obviously the amp sims probably won't, but I'm thinking more of the effects.

[@Tone-Quest]

I think it does well in the effects loop. I haven't tried the G3Xn as of yet but I have been playing around with the Zoom G1on in the effects loop of an amp. And as you stated already, not great for amp or distortion pedals but time based effects sound good.

[@accentontheoff]

Hi Chris, thanks much for this. Just one question. The G5Xn has the ability to record via USB, which the G3 doesn’t have. Would USB recording be better in terms of quality as compared to taking a line out as you have done here. Thanks in advance.

[@Tone-Quest]

Generally speaking, I would say they should be on par with one another. I've recording using the USB on some multi-effects unit and gotten weird and strange results (maybe the issue was the USB driver or maybe just the computer was being weird), not always just occasionally, so for me, my setup and my work flow, I generally find it more consistent to use the outputs from the multi-effect unit into my USB audio interface.

[@accentontheoff]

@@Tone-Quest Got it thanks for the reply!

[@James57AOL]

Chris, do you find that this processor to be the very best as well as easiest way to garner all types of effects for your playing. If so I do believe I will try one on for size..possibly give up the Line 6 and other multi effects systems if this pans out to be a good versatile and realistic tone system.

[@Tone-Quest]

I'll be honest, I'm a bit of a multi-effects junky. I like trying all styles and brands but I will say that I tend to really like the Zoom multi-effects a lot. I think the Zoom G3Xn is a great solution, not too big (physically), very versatile, sounds pretty good and cost effective.

[@James57AOL]

I just today found the 3nx and it seems very plausible. I ve been etching tones for good play and for all reaches of genre of music. I found one for a good price but I just got my pedals in line. Thanks for the observations of personal likes

[@neilswan8015]

i know u have done a video with the g1on, do u think the g3xn's amp modelling sounds better or about the same?

[@Tone-Quest]

Great question, I think because I have played the G1on for so long I've very used to how it sounds...so the G3Xn sound a little different. Not bad, just different. I need to get back to playing the G3Xn, I've been working on some other projects. I think the G3Xn sounds good but not quite as aggressive as the G1on, which in reality might mean it is more close to the real thing. I also wished the G3Xn had all the Amp Models that the G1on had.

[@neilswan8015]

i have listened to many g3n videos and most of the models sound very realistic but i think the g1on is pretty close and crazy cheap- can't go wrong with either

[@surfzion]

Nice demo !!! Can you connect straight to the computer, or you need a separete audio interface ?

[@mobeersplz]

kelmer carvalho nice demo! I have the zoom G3, it's a beast, highly recommend

[@Tone-Quest]

kelmer carvalho Unless I'm missing something you have to connect via some audio interface. It has a USB but it appears to be for upgrading and patch control. This unit is still new to me, if I find out anything differently I post a new video or at least let you know.

[@Tone-Quest]

Thanks you sir.

[@ActionlessLoveless]

why reverb is placed between amp and cabsim?

[@Tone-Quest]

I would say this mimics using reverb pedal with a real cab. If you use a reverb pedal in your effects loop, the reverb is coming after the preamp and is before the cabinet. In these type of multi-effects, I put the reverb before or sometimes after the cab sim.

[@ActionlessLoveless]

@@Tone-Quest ah, you mean you sorta simulating send/return loop of a real amp? nice

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

I love the review, but I want to ask which of these mutl-effect devices the most amp modelers, or which is "better" I am looking for a device where can I create my own pre sets. I am into classic rock, like AC/DC, Zeppelin, Sabbath, Stones, Beatles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, that kind of thing. Which is easier to use? Sorry for the many questions

[@Tone-Quest]

Angel Martinez Thanks! While I'm a big fan of the Zoom multi-effect pedals, to answer your question...I would lean to the Digitech RP360XP. The RP360XP has many of amp models, lots of effects, easy to use, easy to back up and lots patches.

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

Thank you sir!

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

Hi again, my last question, for sound quality, the Digitech RP360XP or the Zoom G3xb?

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

I meant the Zoom G3xn..sorry

[@ze-ce.cra_]

Wow it sounds good.. Mind sharing your signal flow, what guitar you used & it's specs?

[@Tone-Quest]

At 1:05 into the video, I show the signal path and the equipment I used but here it is in text: ESP LTD EC-100QM -> Zoom G3Xn -> Behringer UMC204HD -> Windows 10 Laptop. ESP LTD EC-100QM Specs are: -Bolt-on neck construction -24-3/4" scale -Basswood body -Maple neck -Rosewood fingerboard -42mm standard nut -Thin U neck contour -24 XJ frets -Black nickel hardware -ESP tuners -Tune-o-matic bridge and stopbar tailpiece -ESP LH-150 bridge and neck humbuckers Cheers

[@ze-ce.cra_]

@@Tone-Quest ah I see.. sorry I admit I skipped directly to about 1:35 when I watched it before ... Thank you very much for the details!! 😀👍

[@satchkeem]

What firmware are you using? mine's upgraded to version 1.10 I own this G3Xn however it only has 5 amps I dont have this HW 100, ORG Retifier, etc. and some other effects as well. maybe they've downgraded it for G5n sales? :(

[@Tone-Quest]

I'm also running firmware version 1.10. It is very weird that we are on the same firmware but I have more Amp Models than you. I understand your frustration, I would be bummed too. Did you upgrade your firmware or did it come with that version? Maybe download the firmware again and apply the 1.10 firmware again????

[@satchkeem]

I upgraded into it,. just bought it a week ago. Not just the amps but some of effects are missing under reverb and drives amd cabs. Tried installing ng firmware again but still :( And the thing is on the zoom website says it says it only has 5 amps.

[@satchkeem]

I upgraded into it. Bought this a week ago. Not just the amps but some of drive, reverb, and cabs are missing as well. Tried re-installing the firmware but still.. :( And the thing is on the zoom website it is indicated thay it only has 5 amps. If I may ask for a link where you downloaded the firmware that would be awesome.

[@satchkeem]

Or maybe you can send me an attachment of that firmware to my email [e-mail] That will be very much appreciated sir.

[@herbedaceous]

I have had the same query - and just found that if you can load extra amps and effects onto the unit by hooking up to a PC and uploading via the Zoom Guitar software which I downloaded from the Zoom Website. Select Effect at the top and the G3xn from the Effect Pool on the RH side of the screen. Scroll through the list for amps FX etc; any already on your device are greyed out any others can be uploaded onto the G3xn by selecting to highlight then clicking load to add button at the bottom of the screen. Hope this helps, had me baffled!!!

[@KshitijKumar5595]

Are these the only amps available in the processor or are there more?

[@Tone-Quest]

Those are all the amp models

[@KshitijKumar5595]

I heard there are more available through download from Zoom's website, have you tried them?

[@Tone-Quest]

There are certain Zoom pedals where you can add on different content but to my knowledge the G3Xn doesn't have any additional content...yet. But I would love it, if they did allow some more downloadable content.

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

Have you tried the BOSS GT-1

[@Tone-Quest]

Angel Martinez No sir, not yet

[@AngelMartinez-qs3cf]

K

[@guitarplayer7400]

Hello, thanks for the demo. Can g3n work without power adapter? Via USB or battery power.

[@pedr0p0lis]

No, it needs needs a wall wart

[@butzbravo6096]

Made from where? Thanks

[@Tone-Quest]

Where is the pedal made? I believe China

[@butzbravo6096]

Good sound and quality right?

[@mevideoism6738]

how do you do this I mean testing the different amp models?

[@Tone-Quest]

Rich walker How do I setup the Zoom for testing? If so, I just create a patch for every amp type. I usually include a noise suppressor and Reverb for each patch. When you add an amp or pedal to a patch it loads with default settings, so normal I go with that.

[@mevideoism6738]

cool ive just bought one, so have messed with it yet, is it an easy process?

[@Tone-Quest]

Setting it up? I think so. Holler if you have any questions.

[@billrand4138]

can you turn off the amp sims and just use effects??

[@Tone-Quest]

Yes, totally.

[@tanujsingh1134]

When using the amp models, my low strings sound terrible and really muddy on the rhythm pickup. Any advice?

[@joek4016]

Tanuj Singh, your pickup might suck but to optimize what you have, Try adding graphic eq and cut the lowest of bandwitdths to almost nothing to take out the flab in favor of bumping up the low mid-range instead if you need to add more low end. Also, dont max out your distortion. Back it off a little (or a lot) and again, use your eq to tweak your sound. You'll often find you can sound just as heavy with the gain backed off, but adding a really good EQ curve to boost the frequencies where you need it. Think of each frequency as it's own gain within the curve

[@trialdiy]

whats the title song in this first video ?

[@Tone-Quest]

Aldi The background music? If so, it is called Acoustic Breeze from Bensound.com

[@gaboogablah]

I just got one and I can't find the amps anywhere and they're not in the book. Very disappointed.

[@RobinLull]

hold one arrow down, and hit the other to change categories.

[@BIGBADALEXIS]

i'm so confused between this and the boss gt-1....can't make up my mind!!! great demo man!!! thnx!!!

[@Tone-Quest]

Thank you, yeah that is a tough one...I would love to try the Boss GT-1 also.

[@ballsin3d205]

i own both the gt-1 and this, it depends on what you want for editing and creating capabilities. the boss gt-1 is great for people in a studio most of the time and is a pick up and go kind of effects panel. the g3xn is great for when you dont have access to a computer most of the time or want to create sounds easily on the go.

[@MadDrummer100000]

Chris, do these amps come with the pedalboard from the factory, or did you have download some of them in the zoom website, like an update ? Keep on doing these awesome videos !!!

[@Tone-Quest]

Thanks MadDrummer100000, yes these Amp Models were in the pedal out of the box. So far no updates have been released as of late but maybe if they do, it will include more Amp Models and Effects.

[@MadDrummer100000]

Chris Benton Thank you for anwsering. I just have a couple more questions: Which pedalboard do you consider the best between the g3xn, the g3x and the boss me-25, regarding sound mostly ? Is it true the g3xn's looper sucks in comparison to the g3x's ? I appreciate your attention. Cheers

[@Tone-Quest]

MadDrummer100000, I have owned and played through G3Xn and the ME-25 but have never played through or owned the G3X but IMO the G1on and the G3Xn I consider to be from the same family. Though I don't know for certain, I would think the G1on and the G3X sound the same or very similar. I have owned the G1on for quite a while now and love it. I’m personally was not a fan of the ME-25. It had good sounds but I found the operation of the device to be obtuse and strange. Maybe I have spent too much time in the Zoom Eco-system but to be fair, I've owned Line 6, Korg, Zoom, Digitech, Boss and Vox multi-effect pedals. In regards to the looper, it is a little strange on the G3Xn. It is a like adding an effect to a patch, which then takes away from me adding another effect I might want. On the G1on, the looper is just a utility you can select on any patch and doesn’t get in the way of the effect choices. While I have the latest Zoom G3Xn pedal, there is a part of me that also wants to purchase the G3X pedal and compare them head to head. I’m sure the G3Xn has a few more overall bells and whistles but as you know, most of it comes down to sound.

[@MadDrummer100000]

Chris Benton that would be a great comparison, because I'm really torn between both of them, I don't know which to buy, the g3x or the g3xn. I'll try demoing them on the store before making the purchase. Thanks for the support, my friend.

[@neverwhatever]

i go over a line 6 pod in my pc, and it sound not really good, what can i do to optimize? that sounds really good in the video, but what is your interface in that you play? i try guitar rig and the pod farm, but i never get a good sound with the zoom.

[@Tone-Quest]

Ple Are you using the Zoom G3Xn also? If so, are you using the Line 6 pod as just an interface? I wouldn't run the Zoom into Pod Farm personally. At 7:26 into the video I show how I recorded using the Zoom G3Xn. I run the Zoom G3Xn output into the Behringer Uphoria UMC204HD. The Uphoria is connect to my computer via USB. Also the patches I use are also using a cabinet sim, which is very important to get a good sound from a patch that has an amp.

[@neverwhatever]

yes i use the zoom g3xn. i have no experience with other interfaces, the line 6 pod was my first interface to record guitars on pc. presumably i should try the behringer?

[@Tone-Quest]

Not saying you have to use Behringer but it would probably be easier with a generic USB Audio Interface. I have a Line 6 Tone Port UX1, which is great for playing Pod Farm but if I want to record directly from another source (like the Zoom G3Xn) I found it easier and better to use something like the Behringer USB Audio Interface with my DAW software. I've been very happy with my purchase of the Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD but they have less expensive solutions if you want to experiment to see if you can get a better recording. Maybe something like the BEHRINGER U-PHORIA UM2 $30 (US). A very popular brand in this arena is Focusrite products.

[@neverwhatever]

yes that is the question :D get i a better recording with it, i will try that in the future. i play 95% of the time over my pc, i life in the city and it is not possible to play with my amp here. and your sound is very great, and i like the zoom, so i have to change something :D greetings from germany

[@Tone-Quest]

Ah, Germany...nice! I lived in Berlin for 4 years and loved it. Ich bin ein Berliner. I forgot to ask you because I'm curious...what operating system are you using? Windows, MacOS, other?

[@RedRose-sc6mv]

Marshall Super Lead

[@pedr0p0lis]

HiWatt sounds mean

[@davidglory9567]

what the song at the intro?

[@Tone-Quest]

David Ericson Acoustic Breeze from bensound.com

[@davidglory9567]

@@Tone-Quest thank you