Zoom L 12 Part 4 Simple Tutorial - Recording with the L-12

[@VitorMachadoProf]

I have a Livetrack L20. As the commands are the same as the L12, your tutorials help me a lot. The detailed and calm way you explain it is the best. I've seen several presentations, which are also good, but, honestly, yours are really excellent. Thank you for that.

[@debbieorta279]

You are so good at explaining things. It’s a pleasure to receive this training!

[@debbieorta279]

Love Power is leading the way! 🎶🎵🎧

[@sugarcanerush]

That's the first thing that came to my mind when I was doing that! 🤣

[@bocommingbold]

Clear and slow explanation of how to do things !! Big thanks !!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! Just released part 5 and more coming after that. I plan to cover the whole recording process from start to finish. Also please remember the reason we record is to publish our songs! Check out the music on our channel, like and comment and feel free to share!

[@renotitawano1407]

Great tutorial, very clear and easy to understand! Thank you very much!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed! I am working on more, but I'm a bit slow😂 Keep checking in and enjoy the music playlists!

[@kwandonald]

Thank you for this video! I agree with all the pain-points - I've given up on renaming projects on the L-12. I've also mis-clicked the rewind button several times and ended up recording on a different project. I learned today that I needed to toggle overdub + record + arming channels + lay to actually do an overdub, I would have never figured that out by myself without watching this. Cheers!

[@JR-pr1fy]

Great tutorial. Thank you so much. I'm a novice, and this was very helpful.

[@sugarcanerush]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. We are all novices when we start! I have a lot more tutorials that might help you. Look at the playlists on my channel. Also enjoy the music we post! Thanks again for listening, if there is anything you would like to see on future videos, let me know I am working on new stuff now!

[@yewfaiwan6053]

Thank you for your kind effort. I will use this tutorial to try to record on my L12. My first project will be done in Indonesia. Your impact is far reaching brother.

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! More coming soon! The internet is a wonderful thing, I have friends in Indonesia that are talented musicians and have collaborated with me on a few projects. Look up Awakening on our channel the lead singer Alice Leonz and the lead guitarist Ronggowisnu Prihadi are both featured on it. Here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4KclqyirsSnfLs Look around on our channel lots of music with musicians from all over the world. I will start a new recording tutorial series that I hope will help you with your projects.

[@sugarcanerush]

Remenber I did 4 tutorials so far on the L12 Look up my playlist for the L12

[@WEMunson]

So helpful! Thanks so much.

[@drumman806]

Ive never used the recorder on this unit but your tutorial was so easy to follow I will use the info to began using it, Thanks!

[@ramoncasales5145]

Great tutorial Raul! Very good presentation!

[@SebastianUminski]

You managed to answer some of my questions regarding overdub recording and master recording. Thank you for your time you've spent on it. I appreciate it a lot!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for watching! More on the way!

[@the.fresh.bananas]

Nice tutorial. You did a great job! Thanks!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for watching!

[@realjoeplummer]

Man...turning the "record level meter" on was SO helpful for me. I'm using a TD 30 drum module and the signal comes in super hot; as in "no gain" and still clipping (have to adjust using the faders on the module itself). That meter makes all the difference...way easier to fine tune now. Thanks!

[@sugarcanerush]

Yes, when I first got the board, that function was turned off. I had a hard time just looking at the small LED light to get a level. Once I found it, everything was much easier! Thank you for tuning in, spread the word and don't forget to check out our music playlists!

[@TnSn5]

Thank you, that overdub thing is crucial i spent too much time trying to figure it out and couldn't

[@glen.hoerdt]

❤

[@rubbernun66]

Great guide 😅 thank you !

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! Feel free to explore the channel and go through our playlists! Lots of music and tutorials. Help us spread the word!

[@stallion3708]

Again a great help, thanks 👍👍👍

[@paulastonmusic]

Got to the end - great job.

[@jamesanthonyaquino1090]

Big thanks. We got L20.this lesson worth lot. Using it in our church. We're getting JUST

[@MatsueMusic]

0:40 Overview 1:25 3 Major functions 2:30 Project Menu 3:37 New Project 4:23 Renaming Project 7:17 Deleting Project 8:22 Record Level Meter 9:57 Set Record Level Meter 10:50 Start of Mixer Demonstration 12:00 Pre-recording Level Check 14:37 Recording 18:40 Listening Back to Your Recording 19:43 Overdub / Adding another Track 22:26 Listening to Multiple Recorded Tracks 23:15 Mixing Multiple Tracks 24:04 Summary 25:37 Demo Song 29:31 Mix Down Master 32:37 Listening Back to Recorded Mix Down 34:25 Final Overview

[@sugarcanerush]

Wow! Good job! I didn't even realize that I had that many topics! LOL! I need to learn how to do time stamps. I will google it right now to learn for my next video. Thanks for listening!

[@sugarcanerush]

Well I done did it! Easy as pie! Thanks for the inspiration!

[@MatsueMusic]

@@sugarcanerush Thank you! I will be using this VERY often, so I thought why not kill two birds with one stone. - Thank you

[@dannynelsonvisionoflove7898]

Keep it up, you are excellent tutor

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you Danny! I am working on a new one soon. Keep checking in!

[@ansonstiles]

Got an L20 to multitrack a blues fest this coming weekend and been studying like mad how to get it to work for me 😂 nice Miles lick on bass

[@sugarcanerush]

Anson, thanks for listening! Make sure to browse our music! Feel free to share and comment! The L20 should do great for tracking live performance. the quickest tips I can give you are: 1. make sure you have a good gain balance on your inputs (mics, direct ins from amps etc) Remember once the band starts playing the volume levels will go up! 2. Have a large enough SD card to record the whole event. 3. if you are using it for PA at the same time, remember the faders are for the balance going out and for headphone and monitor mixes. The recording balance is only controlled by the gain input (watch the SIG LEDs that they don't go into the red! 4. Once you have a mix, eq and effects you like, save it to a scene. It will give you a great start next time you do it again. Good luck! let me know how you did!

[@aronjackson971]

Nice content. I'm an old school player trying to decide what mixer I want to purchase. So far I'm leaning towards the l20 or 12. I'm visually impaired so more than likely I will be using this as a standalone unit. Thanks for the tutorial and now I am subscribed🎹🪗🎧

[@sugarcanerush]

Thanks for your support! I am very happy with the L12 but if you can afford the L20 it does have its advantages. I use mine mostly as an audio interface, but I do take it out and record rehearsals and sessions away from home. I am working on a new video where I go through all the steps, we took to record one of the songs in our channel. all parts were done in different locations and at the end I did my mix on Cakewalk.

[@NLGVIDEOS2]

Great job thank you!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thanks for listening! Explore the channel, listen to our music! More coming soon.

[@vincentw4881]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@MichaelDaniels]

Awesome video. Thanks

[@alanfurlong-drummer4419]

Very helpful thank you

[@anthonycallenjr]

Love the song

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you! Lots more on our page! Hope you explore!

[@richardrohrback8002]

Thanks, That really helped me get off the ground..

[@sugarcanerush]

Thanks for listening Richard! I am working on a new one with an introduction to audio compressors! Will be looking at the compressor included in the L12 and an overview of compressors in general! Check out our music, I will be posting new songs every month!

[@rolandready3207]

Where's part 3? By the way, great presentation for the Zoom. The best I have seen.

[@sugarcanerush]

I apologize, I didn't plan this very well! Here is the link to part 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rai8ZX-cn9VqmtUsi=7zNIdbxDRV-ypU0k I have a playlist for all the tutorials you can browse through it. Thank you so much for tuning in! Don't forget to check out our music also.

[@sugarcanerush]

Here is the link to the playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLdwMMVumb7NoQxhNAzIL4R8mbH0WJ5tWo&si=BR8Yd7rFDwMyBloN

[@vonephonxana2783]

Hello sir great job! Part 5, 6, 7 and on. I’ll still follow you. Enjoying the way you explain, easy to understand. NOW MY QUESTIONS. 1 what’s largest SD capable? 2 Maximum recording time? I’m planning to record live shows half hour to hour long.3 rename your project, You mentioned pain on the neck😮. Can we control all the functions by having IPad links to it? I definitely will see part 5-50 with my questions 😁😁😁. Please keep continue have more videos. Thanks 🙏 Bless!

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! Make sure you check out our music videos and feel free to share! You can use up to a 512 gigabyte SD card type SDXC. That should be plenty for your needs. Recording 44.1khz and 24 bit depth should do. I don't think you can use the iPad for L12, but you can for the L20. I am planning to do a follow up video with the theme " what did I miss?" Should have it soon! I am also working on a couple of new music videos to post. Check in often!

[@niasboiii]

Look into manual. After 2hr recording time a new track will be created. Without pause. You can combine in daw afterwards.

[@artysanmobile]

The LED-match is a positively ancient preset method, a real throwback to the 1970s. I haven’t seen that in use for at least 40 years. I don’t know the cost of this thing but it must be ridiculously cheap to use this tech. Just guessing, I’d say it gets you to within 2db or so which is ‘ballpark.’ It is such a surprise to see such design in 2024. If the price is right, then it is a good thing.

[@sugarcanerush]

Yes, you are right! I remember working for a local recording studio in Miami back in early 80s when this technology was considered leading edge! This board / recorder is relatively inexpensive. I paid $ 600 USD about 5 years ago. It is very versatile in that it works well for PA board for small venues, It had a very good on board multitrack recorder and it works really well as an Audio interface. The 5 separate monitor out with individual mixing is a plus also! Thanks for listening! Please check out our music on the channel.

[@MrPompanoman]

Thank you

[@georgesbahia]

Magnifique explication. Très belle musique. Muito bom obrigado

[@sugarcanerush]

Merci de m’avoir écouté.Et merci pour vos gentils commentaires sur notre musique! Come again more on the way!

[@robertu2927]

Great videos! Could you plaese do a tutorial how to use your Z-12 together with your software and how to connect/record to a seperate channel (on the Z-12) to a computer? In other words: How do I use my Z-12 as a DAW and make it function?

[@sugarcanerush]

Robert, thanks for listening to the tutorials and I hope you explore our music also! The L-12 makes a great Digital Audio Interface. If you have a good recording program in your computer, you can send all the channels in your board to your software and record independent tracks. The limitation to how many tracks you can record depends on the software and the capacity of your computer. I am considering doing a tutorial on using the L-12 as an audio interface, but it will take me a while to put it together. I use Cakewalk and a PC (HP). Most of the music in our channel was recorded using the audio interface. As soon as I can I will let you know when I can have the tutorial.

[@frankfunke8689]

Great videos. When in audio interface mode. I see 22 channels in Logic Pro. My question can I record simultaneously to the DAW and the SD card?

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you! You can record to the SD card and to logic pro at the same time. It's a great way to have a back up in case the computer crashes.

[@markostricevic9260]

thank you for your videos, they are a huge help! i just got an l-12 and recorded a band rehearsal with it last night. could you please help me out with this puzzle: in order to relisten to a recording you have to press stop, but once you press stop you cannot record to the same project anymore. Is this correct? or is there a way to pause and relisten?

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for watching! I think the problem you are having is that once you record any tracks on a new project, from then on you must have the "overdub" button on red along with the "record" button. This way you can record as many additional tracks to the project as you have open. I hope this helps, I will check your channel out, hope you can share your stuff!

[@michaelbarbacow3217]

Could you tell me how to add fx or eq my recording while I'm tracking before the final mix down record. I hope I explained it right. Thank you so so so much for doing these explanations.

[@sugarcanerush]

Thanks for listening! The L12 does not record effects or EQ from the board to the tracks recorded on your SD card or direct to the DAW. You can listen to the effects or EQs on the board only to monitor using the headphones or the main speakers. You can record a stereo mix to the "Master" channel which will include any Effects or EQ that you have applied on the board. So you can have a stereo mix with the effects on the board recorded to the Master track. But the individual tracks will not record effects or EQ only compressor. I hope this helps, Subscribe if you haven't already and check out our music playlists on the channel!

[@michaelbarbacow3217]

Understood. Thank you so much.

[@learnfromthemastersmusicou7241]

Very helpful - thanks for all your work! Questions: - When you have several different individual tracks recorded and saved in a project on the SD card (as in your example of "Just a Closer Walk With Thee"), and then do a Master mix "overdub" recording, does this process overwrite the individual tracks? Or does the SD card simply store the recorded Master mix as a separate "track" on the SD card, leaving the original, separate tracks untouched? - Perhaps asked a different way: does each project recorded onto the SD card include one track corresponding to each of the different tracks on the mixer (max of 11 total: 1-8, 9/10, 11/12, and Master), such that each of these tracks is its own entity, and not affected by anything that happens to any of the other tracks? - If so, if you wanted to experiment with different Master mixes and record each of them so they could be compared with each other, can you do that within the same project? Or do you only get one Master "track" on the SD card for each project, such that any comps would have to be done by recording the alternate Master track mixes to separate projects?

[@sugarcanerush]

You get one "master mix" stereo track per project. The individual tracks are not affected. The only thing you could do is copy the master track to your computer and then re record the master track again with a different mix. Just remember to use the Overdub option. Tracks 1 - 12 can be mixed to the master track but you cannot record a mix to any other track. I hope this helps.

[@EBMTIMFoundation]

@@sugarcanerush definitely helps. Thx for clarifying!

[@billwilson5878]

Appreciate you brother....but question when you're master mixing, what/why is the light flashing next to the blue fader?

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! To be honest, I am not sure why the Scene one button was blinking! Maybe I did a recall to that scene, I save a board reset to scene one. These buttons blink when they are ready to be used to either save a scene or recall a scene.

[@dannynelson470]

Hooray got it, any recommendations of tracks for a drum machine and v-drums presently using T2. My reason for asking is your comment about these items being damaged when the red nobs are pressed. (Like your recordings super, sense a touch of Caribbean feel lol). Also looks like the sd cards I used on the previous zoomR24 are not being read on the L12. Hence I thought one could have edited etc on this zoom.

[@dannynelsonvisionoflove7898]

Thank you thank you it worked "Audio Interface" Just started testing first channel no sound on headphones yet, will get it. Also could one use Shure Wireless mics and any idea if there are cases for the unit?

[@sugarcanerush]

Glad you got going! You should be able to use the wireless mics I don't see a problem. Remember that the headphones have different ways to monitor. Try plugging in to "A" have the button up to monitor "Master" mix and select the button on Fader mode to "Master" There are nice cases fro the unit I have one that I like a lot. around $60.00 for them. Enjoy!

[@frankfunke8689]

In this vid you mentioned that your drummer used the zoom to record. Would it be possible for you to do a session showing how you recorded the drum tracks.

[@MichaelDaniels]

So you went into a folder and found a recording that you did at the other persons house. And put the SD card in the mixer and found the correct folder and file and all the tracks showed up fine, right? This is great if that is the case

[@sugarcanerush]

Thanks for watching! Yes, that is right you can take the card and put in your computer's SD slot. The folders are well named and you can find your files by project name. I am working on a new video where I will detail the process of recording remotely and how I put all the files together to make the finished song. It's taking me longer than I expected but it should be out soon!

[@MichaelDaniels]

@@sugarcanerush thank you for your quick response

[@MichaelDaniels]

I was thinking more of mixer to mixer vs to the computer. I wonder if I go from an L20 to an L12 and vise versa, if that will work. Because it has different track numbers. I will have to do some testing

[@Mikepo587]

@@MichaelDaniels You’re right about that like an MP3 player will have everything you’ve done so yeah I would assume the L 20 and out 12 pretty much he recorded it on one of the other it’ll show up but the LA now but it doesn’t matter because Ellie does stuff that the other ones down it’s really quite amazing what it can do but they’re all good my only problem is the slot the pushing in and out eventually where is that’s where I’ve had the biggest problem sd card especially when you have to remove it a lot. So these are great but fair warning to try to get it fixed or something impossible I mean they probably don’t castle out of here thank God it’s probably worth nothing fix but do not buy a new one don’t be tempted like I did but that is my main issue I’ve noticed and I wipe these things down like a new born baby, Turn the matter how are you take care of it to me the two-year mark three if you’re lucky that’s not even using it a lot eventually it starts to give away unless you’re a computer expert and you get these cards changed a lot I even had extensions which card extenders LCM on Amazon and they were but it’s not that won’t help you in the end trust me that’s the only flaw I wish they just stuck with a USB sticks with everything everything

[@JksGuitarCave]

Is it possible to start recording sometime later in the song? Say you want to just record a guitar solo on a separate track so you won’t have to redo everything because not happy with the solo… Also, can you add a track into the project? Say I have an old demo/phone recording I wish to record over… I wish to import that into track 12 (for instance) and do a proper recording over it… I’ve just ordered one of these and try to take in as much I can before it arrives to start planning how to do projects…

[@sugarcanerush]

You can do "punch ins" anywhere on the track. Rewind your song using the rotary knob until you get to the point you want to start recording. Press the record button on the track you wish to record, press the overdub button and when ready press the play button to hear the track and then press the record button when you want to start recording. You can get a footswitch to start recording to make it easier. You can add a track to the project direct from your phone using the right adapter. Then you overdub as many tracks as there are open to add to the prerecorded track. I do that all the time when someone wants me to add a bass part to their project, they send me a stereo mix without bass, I record to 11/12 and then overdub my bass part.

[@JksGuitarCave]

@@sugarcanerush Thank you 😊🙏🏻

[@LarryOohLaLa]

❤❤❤ that take some time to doing it 😂😂😂lol

[@sugarcanerush]

Sure does! But it's fun! Thanks for coming by! New one should be out by next week!

[@JksGuitarCave]

Can I ask one more question? As I have received the L-12 I've been trying to make a demo-song just to familiarize with the unit. So start with a clean slate, start a new project, rename it and record the first track... but if I'm not happy with the first recording and wish to overwrite this the L-12 just starts a new project with this random date/time name, so I have to delete it and select my purposely made project. To avoid this I need to record a second track and use overdub... surely there must be a way where I don't have to go delete projects because let's face it... my guitar skills drop when that rec button is active and it's a lot of extra work deleting projects I didn't ask for... Any pointers?

[@sugarcanerush]

Man, I feel your pain! But no problem the solution is easy. Always once you start a new project and record the first track, from that point on you have to use the overdub button, the track record and the main record at the same time to record again. This includes overwriting the first track that you are not happy with. So if you record on track one as the first track on your new project but do not like and and want to re record over it, just treat it as an overdub and press overdub, press the record button on track one, the one you just recorded and press the main record. Now when you are ready you can record over the bad track by just pressing play and record again. This will record over the first track. It's not easy to explain here but I hope this helps.

[@JksGuitarCave]

@@sugarcanerush Thank you… worked like a charm 🙏🏻😊

[@Mikepo587]

@@JksGuitarCave It’s actually a very good unit and he’s correct man you just overdubbed these cards do you have a problem don’t skimp out on the cards get the best But if you do over double lot you start to notice that it takes longer for the hourglass spinning for it to say meaning it’s almost like celluloid basically but not your overdubbing too much but yes that’s a way to do it when DAW start to get older they can make these things just as good OK they could do anything the reason why is because the market right now is in computers in DAwS

[@dannynelsonvisionoflove7898]

Got the ZL12 yesterday and when turned on all I am getting with each sd card inserted is a display of "Sd card reader" after pressing the menu button the display is "Check: Mode SW and restart" what is sw?

[@sugarcanerush]

The Mode switch in the back is set up for "Card Reader" You need to turn the mixer off and set the switch to "Audio Interface" and turn the mixer back on. That should work.

[@P58-i1h]

how do you share files back and forth

[@sugarcanerush]

The short answer is that when you record to the board, the individual tracks get saved to your SD memory card in the board. After you finish recording you can either take the card out of the board and insert in your computer (if you have a card reader). Then you can copy your files to your computer and use a file transfer website like "We Transfer" or "Dropbox" to send large files to anyone. Another way to transfer the tracks to your computer is to set the board mode switch to "Card Reader" this way you will see the contents of the card on your computer allowing you to copy and again use a file transfer site to send large files. I will be doing a video on this very soon. I will show how we record the drums and how the drummer sends the files to me for mixing. Hope this helps.

[@P58-i1h]

Thank you for taking your time to answer my question. Your tutorials are the best that anyone has produced on line for the the zoom equipment . the Zoom people should send you free equipment like the L8 and L20 to review@@sugarcanerush

[@AkisTsivourakis]

Put a mic to ch 11-12 , i cannot record to pc & i don't know why...

[@sugarcanerush]

I need to know what DAW you are using. Do the other channels record to your PC? Remember the Zoom driver is a little strange. On the driver: 9L= channel 9 9R = channel 10 9S = channel 9/10 11R = channel 11 11L = channel 12 11S = channel 11/12 Let me know if this helps. Thank you for watching, if there is anything you would like me to address on the next video, let me know.

[@AkisTsivourakis]

@@sugarcanerush i'm trying to record in audacity, just for test...the signal is too low, pluged the mic in ch 8 through preamp, again too low, hard to hear, although i hear clear & loud from the monitor channel (usb 1-2) thank u so much 4 your feedback...

[@sugarcanerush]

@@AkisTsivourakis What mic are you using? Do you have other mics and are they too low also? Did you try recording on audacity and see what level you are getting? Not sure why you are getting low levels.

[@nghiado1177]

Hello, does this device has insert fx like the older r model thanks

[@sugarcanerush]

Sorry not the L12

[@nghiado1177]

@@sugarcanerush Hello, so does it mean only 1 type of fx for each channel? . I’m thinking of buying this device, and don’t want to get tricked or disappointed Thanks again

[@MrPompanoman]

I'd like to learn how to add one track at a time while playing a rhythm track

[@sugarcanerush]

Jon, if you mean to first record a rhythm track and then add more tracks, it would be the same way I did on the video. First record the rhythm, then set that track to play and record the other tracks as overdubs. What we do when we do remote collaboration is first, we record a stereo track with both drums and bass, then we add individual tracks as needed.

[@MrPompanoman]

@@sugarcanerush thank you so much

[@MrPompanoman]

@@sugarcanerush so I'm obviously doing something wrong I can't seem to do it I have no problem with the HD 8

[@sugarcanerush]

@@MrPompanoman I want to help you but you need to tell me more about what exactly are you trying to do. Ask me the question again and I will give it another shot.

[@MrPompanoman]

@@sugarcanerush thanks so much so I recorded 4 minutes of a drum track and pressed over dub and the drum track light turned green but after that it stopped turning green like trying to add a bass track

[@rimbaudjet]

I just bought an used l12 zoom mixer and the control panel does not work if there is no SD card in the reader. Is that the case? Can someone confirm this to me because it is impossible for me to navigate the menus? Thanks

[@sugarcanerush]

Have you tried inserting an SD card to see if the menu works? I tried taking the card out of mine and the menu seemed to work for things that didn't use the card.

[@rimbaudjet]

Thanks, I bought an compatible SD card and I can recorded and play, but I don’t have access to sub menu 😡 I think my used unit is defective !

[@richardrohrback8002]

I have an L-8 but almost everything is the same.

[@sugarcanerush]

I know some people that have the L8 and they love it. Works the same and great quality. Thanks for listening!

[@robertu2927]

AND

[@jamesanthonyaquino1090]

Big thanks. We got L20.this lesson worth lot. Using it in our church. We're getting JUST

[@jamesanthonyaquino1090]

Big thanks. We got L20.this lesson worth lot. Using it in our church. We're getting JUST

[@sugarcanerush]

Thank you for listening! Enjoy the L20 that's a great board! Remember to browse the music in our channel!

[@jamesanthonyaquino1090]

Big thanks. We got L20.this lesson worth lot. Using it in our church. We're getting JUST

[@jamesanthonyaquino1090]

Big thanks. We got L20.this lesson worth lot. Using it in our church. We're getting JUST