ZR2 vs. TRD Pro Climb Hype Mountain! Are They as Good as People Think? Part II | Edmunds

Edmunds continues its off-road journey in the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 and the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. In Part 1 we tested them in desert wash. Here, editors Dan Edmunds and Jason Kavanagh get some altitude, clambering to the rocky summit of a mountain that tests the trucks' limits. These two off-road-oriented midsize pickups are each impressive in their own right. But there can be only one winner.
Q: Aside from their off-road hardware, how does the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro differ from the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2?
A: The Tacoma has a more awkward driving position and a less sophisticated transmission, but its folding back seat and shallow-sided bed are more practical than those of the Colorado.
Q: What's Crawl Control?
A: Crawl Control is Toyota's name for a system that controls the power delivery and brakes to help find traction in extreme environments.
Q: What's so great about the Colorado ZR2's Multimatic dampers?
A: Compared to traditional dampers, Multimatic spool valve dampers have better fade resistance and less variation from damper to damper, and they allow for more precise damping values.
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[@adventureanglingpnw1821]

I got a 2019 TRD off-road 3 days ago. All I can say is I absolutely love it. I do a lot of fishing in remote lakes in the mountains. The truck handles the rocky terrain like a champ.

[@weekendwarrior4271]

Slammin Steelhead I had one and traded it in for the Zr2 Duramax. Best decision I’ve ever made these newer Toyota’s are crap

[@brycehammond2099]

Weekend Warrior wait till that Chevy breaks down sweetie

[@weekendwarrior4271]

Bryce Hammond Toyota is about the same the parts are expensive too bud

[@br_ok_in]

Weekend Warrior Hate to say it, but Toyota is way more reliable and there is a much wider variety of parts you can get

[@JoseSanchez-zo5tb]

@@weekendwarrior4271 I have a 2002 Toyota Tacoma and have no brand loyalty like you. The Bison ZR2, Ford Raptor, Dodge, and Toyota Tacoma are ALL well made trucks.

[@mschoenfuss5738]

I test drove both the ZR2 and the Tacoma Pro extensively. Have a previous history with a Chevy full size AND Toyota Tacoma I ended up buying the ZR2 with the duramax. Could not be happier. To me it’s just a better driving mid size truck all around.

[@alvinmc5593]

lol

[@leesantos9711]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mr.d9922]

nice man. I really love the mid-size trucks, the Chevy is really nice.I'm always on the fence tho regarding which to buy...the mid or full size truck, the big thing for me is the back seat area, I like to have the storage and also the odd towing, like pulling a big fishing boat out of the water...that duramax would be a great option for that. how do you find the backseat room? enough space?

[@jonchase7752]

Any gripes about the diesel? I want it but hear it’s slow on the get up and go aspect which I prefer higher

[@oaxaca3000]

My Chevy Colorado is the Best 💪🏽

[@Jamesthor]

Thank you, gentlemen. This is actually the first comparison that is a valid comparison between the two vehicles. All you other content creators, thanks for wasting my time and showing me what my eyes could already see.

[@nkyryry]

That was the smoothest dirt road I’ve ever seen and they were nervous lol.

[@jerrycannon6940]

Some places were a bit hairy

[@TheVikingSailor]

I'm from the swamp lands of Florida. I envy these guys that get to drive around in these dry conditions on dirt.

[@GATORADDAM]

Lawren Downing Same here brother. This deep sand and slick mud is no joke!

[@Yes-tj7ui]

That Tacoma is so sexy! But you see them literally everywhere! The ZR2 looks better in my opinion...and it performs better!

[@JackDanielsCHS08]

I went and bought a ZR2 and i love it. Plus putting Formula 1 shocks on a truck is a first and i have been waiting 4 years for this truck, sadly the winch wasnt included in the actual production model vs the concept model Why the hell did Toyota put those tyres on the TRD Pro? If you can afford rigid fogs you can afford better tyres

[@shaydyluke]

JackDanielsCHS08 Toyota fan boy. I agree with the tire thing.

[@Mctsep]

Great video, well done!

[@Cgny]

crawl control seems to work ok in sand but i can tell you from experience it doesnt work in snow when you need it

[@rundownaxe]

Sometimes in snow, even if all 4 tires get all the traction they can, it's just not enough. Want to know when my crawl control really impressed me? I have a weird driveway on an incline with a bit of a drop on one side. One day during winter, there was a good couple of inches of ice all over the ground and I had to get out. Everytime I tried to back up all 4 tires would start slipping and I would slowly slide towards the drop. I could not control the speed and the direction at the same time and I didn't think I could make it out without slamming into something at the bottom of the hill of sliding on the brakes into the drop. That one time, crawl control was amazing. Put in into the lowest setting and eased off the brakes. It started to slided like I did but the magic started. All 4 corners working individually to and the thing actually turned out of the slide and kept my speed low through the descent. It made ungodly noises and moved in ways I didn't think a truck could move. It works magic getting you down a slippery slope. It won't do shit if you are stuck beyond traction capability.

[@AidanofVT]

Which is better? Toyota or Chevy? meanwhile... _camera car is a Toyota SUV._

[@TheVikingSailor]

Taco is basically the Toyota 4runner with a truck bed.

[@backcountryadventure1813]

Thats cuz theres no chevey suv with offroad equipment

[@ItzzTesta]

And it’s also probably what the camera crew hired already owned... If a camera car proves a truck to you, yikes

[@ordinarygamer1353]

See the sensible part of me is saying a mid size truck would better fit my needs, but I really really can't see myself not having a v8 and that v8 sound 😂😂

[@TheVikingSailor]

@@ordinarygamer1353 or everything else you get like ROOM for the same price.

[@JonnyTelevision]

Just checking out the Gram while I do some off-roading @3:07

[@Iam_Machines]

Nice to see someone on KZbin actually put these trucks through their paces.

[@duncan6551]

Love my trd pro Tacoma!! I get crap for “bought not built” but being in college I don’t have all the time in the world to commit to a “build”.

[@wrxcurve]

Is that the film crew at 6:15 using a TRD OffRoad to follow? ;)

[@grantthomas5501]

I did that trail in my open diff 4 runner on 33s. . It was kinda tough. My skidplates got used heavily that day.

[@LoganMaclaren]

Hi, there, greetings from Brazil! If you guys had to stuck with this truck as you daily drive, would this change your decision? Keep up the great work!

[@jackwood8307]

Nice video review!

[@PatrickRich]

Thank you Dan for telling people the proper way to use lockers. I see so many media outlets just clicking them on at the first hint of dirt 'cause they are there and its obviously time for lockers or something. Especially with a front locker, if you leave that on all the time, you are going to break something...not to mention have a hell of a time steering.

[@mikefoehr235]

I just wonder is a LSD front diff with crawl control better or dual lockers. I personally love Toyota as a brand and have a 2013 Tacoma TRD Sport. I think having the spare in the box like the GM is insane...renders your box useless more or less.

[@PatrickRich]

Mike Foehr depends. For crawling there is no substitute for lockers. That having been said both of these trucks are lousy crawlers on account of their length alone. I have front and rear lockers on my cruiser but truthfully when im touring the 2nd Gen Tacoma trd off road in the group goes everywhere I can with just a rear locker and ATRAC... Plus he can turn and still have traction management up front and be less likely to break something. As for an lsd and traction control... It's pretty effective provided it's better than a speed difference type and can "lock" without wheel spin. Army HMMWV didn't used to come with lockers, just high bias torsen lsds and they were amazing with a little left foot breaking. The raptor had this setup of a rear lockers and front torsen with traction control. It's pretty good.

[@trackntrail2869]

It's an option to have the spare in the box, it comes mounted under the bed normally.

[@hochhaul]

You're just plain misinformed if you think the front locker "is going to break something". The ZR2 only allows the front diff to lock while in 4LO. It's not lockable in 4HI and besides that, the front and rear diff are the same Dana setups used on the new Jeep Wrangler. It has more than enough strength. The CV axles, steering links, and steering rack are also upgraded parts on the ZR2. Keep defending that rusty Tacoma's famously weak rear diff until you're blue in the face, your claims that the ZR2 front locker "is just going to break something" doesn't hold even the slightest hint of merit.

[@PatrickRich]

hochhaul is hard to take your "it'll never break!" Seriously when you simultaneously think the Tacoma has some kind of glass differential. Which is it... They never break or they are super fragile? Look you can break either axle with abuse, and ifs front lockers are generally prone to failure more than solid front. Do me a favor and do a KZbin search for "jk Wrangler axle break" and tell me how many videos you find of indestructible Dana axles... Give me a break man. My locked front Toyota axle is at least as strong as any 4 of these axles, I can only engage it in low and I unlock it the second im done with it because in not an idiot and don't want to walk home.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

Please do more videos like these off road comparisons. They are awesome.

[@hochhaul]

They already fucked this one up. They should just give up because this comparison was shit.

[@sebastianrichardson396]

I see the same problem here with every other new truck offroad test is, I didn't see them do anything my 05 Silverado 4x4 couldn't do on its all season tires, my truck is completely stock, not even a lift

[@SideByEach]

I know the Tacoma comes in truck (3 pedals) does the ZR2?

[@TheVikingSailor]

Getting a Taco in manual is not easy unless you order it that way. The way these trans are these days they are way more efficient than we are, but I'm a manual person too. I like feeling like I am operating the vehicle instead of a computer so I get it.

[@NathanRyanAllen]

Why would it? Nobody buys manuals anymore.

[@JMackin1016]

@@NathanRyanAllen wrong. I've got an 18 Tacoma 6spd M.

[@GJKPzcsw]

I really like the looks of the Toyota. But I've always been a fan.

[@HaywoodCrossJr]

4:40 ish I agree with him when he says that he is under rating the Tacoma tires and wonders why they handle sharp rocks no problem. Is due the Kevlar inserts in tires making them extremely reliable.

[@Josh-zy3lq]

This video is great 😂😂

[@Millerbros3]

Did they say 2 things positive about the Colorado other than the tires?

[@nofyfb123]

No. Maybe because it doesn't deserve 2 positive things?

[@UnseenSpirit]

If I'm leasing I'll get either but if I'm buying then Toyota all day long. I've had unreliable motors and it gets frustrating very quickly

[@UnseenSpirit]

@James sevensix tbh in the UK we can't get a tacoma. It's the Hilux here which is good as far as I'm aware

[@andyham6094]

James sevensix if you tow I wouldn’t get a midsize truck at all but if your not towing you will be good. Haven’t had a single issue with mine and I’m at 150,000 miles. Still riding smooth as the day I got it new

[@RyanFellman]

Not taking anything away from the Taco....its a really good truck and has proven itself over the years....but they didn't really have ANYTHING positive to say about the ZR2. I think its pretty obvious they are biased towards the Toyota for whatever reason. The ZR2 has some really great tech that makes it the ultimate off road truck, and they hardly mentioned them. There are a lot of other videos, reviews, comparisons, etc. with these two trucks and the ZR2 usually comes out on top. Anyone agree or disagree?

[@ds6872]

They should change the name from Edmunds to Toyota fan boy TV. Haha

[@colliderdc]

6:16 so the camera/chase truck is a TRD Off Road? Kind says a lot about the Tacoma line up.

[@normt5463]

colliderdc Yes, Colorado is ranked higher by Consumer Reports. Plus the blue one was always leading the way.

[@jamesh6411]

yep - TRD offroad has pretty much the same goodies. minus the slightly better suspension. Most upgrade the tires right away - then you have a billy goat! Also don't take much stock in Consumer Reports. They have hated on the Taco for about 10 years. They don't like truck based vehicles. One reason why they love on the Honda so much. They are all about street performance. They just don't understand why some people need more than a uni-body based vehicle.

[@PatrickRich]

Jason Kavanagh that's what it looked like. Thanks for confirming

[@frnavarro21]

James Holcomb and the trd pro doesn’t come with a moon roof, but the trd off-road does come with a moon roof and it’s about 8k cheaper.

[@FriedRiceDudeGaming]

Francisco Nav my offroad didn't come w a moonroof. It's an option/on selected trucks

[@gaivoron]

Great review

[@Birdhouselady]

This was interesting. What is the ground clearance of both trucks

[@kiefergebhardt1327]

How do you get this to be your job

[@TobyCostaRica]

06:32 props to the audio guy for getting clear audio here!

[@tinhinnh]

I want both

[@ilikethatboulder.thatisani5496]

What what's the name of the trail they're in?

[@littlebill1987]

Is it just me or was this a trd pro promo? Maybe I missed it but I didn't see them use either locker on the zr2.

[@grahf9436]

Resell value usually goes to the better vehicle.. TACO

[@isaiahmartinez2061]

So the Duramax zr2 then? Better resale than the Taco right now

[@isaiahmartinez2061]

@Leo Russ I'm aware. I wanted a Hilux so bad

[@isaiahmartinez2061]

@Leo Russ my bad Chevy Duramax ZR2*. Just like Cummins isn't Dodge.

[@claudebessette8472]

@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: LOL!!!!

[@Kferler]

So the jeep wrangler is better??

[@nataliasomerset8614]

should have tested the duramax zr2 would have been less conflict lol

[@jeremyxman]

I own a ‘17 TRD Sport. I accidentally took it up a hardcore Jeep trail that I thought was going to be more like a forest road. It was WAY more gnarly then this trail these guys are driving and my truck did it no sweat. It was still completely stock besides some side step bars. Modern off road oriented trucks are capable of way more then I thought they were right off the lot. And my truck doesn’t even have all the off road bells and whistles because it’s a Sport and it’s a 6 speed with out all the off road traction features.

[@kishankish5438]

Any idea when the frontier will get a new body?????

[@casTingcall07]

Seemed like one of them was a taco fan. It's always easier to follow someone else line. Plus, he could have used the manual shift mode on the zr2. Could have switched on the off road mode. I bet he didn't even know about it. The second one, taco with zr2 power train. Only thing wrong with the zr2 is the rear shock mounts.

[@ArtOfTheWeld]

anyway of moving the shock mounts? retro kit? lmao

[@casTingcall07]

@@ArtOfTheWeld , yes! I moved mine! However, after 4 years and 45,000 miles I decided to sell mine! I did get to 37” tires though! Only thing left was to switch to solid front axle… Maybe next time if I buy and build another!

[@ArtOfTheWeld]

@@casTingcall07 wow thanks for replying, most don't after so many years haha!🤟

[@casTingcall07]

@@ArtOfTheWeld my Diesel Zr2 did everything the jeep friends did and most the time they said I was cheating it was so easy! Actually got boring with 37’s! Just like my JKU that had 37’s! Except I didn’t have to regear even though over the long haul, I would have eventually!

[@andyham6094]

Love the trd Pro Tacoma and trd Pro 4runners.

[@hanau73]

The Taco should have Atrac which acts like a front locker right?

[@TobyCostaRica]

What is the name of the trail?

[@lespaulplayer1234512]

Put the locker on zr2 on.....

[@CubdriverAK]

I own an 800hp Raptor but wanted something a little bit less extreme. I ordered a new Tacoma, stage 6 Icon & bfg 33”s. After waiting two months and literally seeing thousands and thousands of Tacoma’s on the road I cancelled everything and bought a ZR2. Its an awesome truck. Power is good really good compared to the Tacoma acceptable compared to my Raptor. I put a level kit and 33”s and I am done, I love it! I still have an 86’ SR5, the Toyota’s resale will probably be better but I don’t care. I will drive the better truck.

[@Dwilsonmusic145]

Is that a dent on the chevy passenger side?

[@bobmar2540]

I have a Zr2 I ran with my buddies Rubicon. The 31 inch tires just don't cut it for serious wheeling. Other than that and the of after stuff it is a beast.

[@BAYAREAMX]

Both of these trucks are reliable. I considered both heavily. Ultimately I decided on the Colorado because of the Diesel option and 30mpg in a 4WD truck seemed to enticing not to. It also has the better interior, disc rear brakes, apple car play/android auto. The tacoma has the power outlet in the bed, but most importantly, push button start. I wish my colorado had that. I'm happy with my decision and the colorado has been great.

[@Chris-us8yq]

Love the diesel option. Such cool trucks

[@TheVikingSailor]

I'm waiting for Chevy to update the ZR2 a bit. I'm currently in a F150 Lariat FX4 and I do miss having something a little more nimble, but having all the fancy bells and whistles in the F150 has spoiled me. I like the Tacos, but feel like they are way over priced for what you get. For that kind of money they should have a front locker and a better interior. Not having simple things like Android auto or apple play seems pretty dumb by today's standards. Even the Jeep JL has all of those things now and when the new Jeep Gladiator hits the market hopefully that drives competition and Toyota ups their game a bit.

[@subzero18851]

You can't just state that both trucks are reliable without any proof. I think most of the world knows from past experience that toyota trucks have always been the most reliable pickups. This has been proven in my personal experience as a shade tree mechanic as well.

[@BAYAREAMX]

@@subzero18851 there's plenty of publications and articles about the reliability of both the Toyota and the Chevy and I trust them much more than you commenting your local mechanic says "toyotas are more reliable."

[@Chris-us8yq]

subzero18851 fake news

[@gmrtg1414]

Hey Toyota the Amish called and would like their drum brakes back for the buggy.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

Danny Medina - uh huh

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

Danny Medina - I've seen the video....uh huh meant anybody can come up with excuses for being cheap

[@kadenicholson6893]

Holy shit this had me rolling

[@Fortehoz]

Drum brakes in the rear because it's an off road built truck, they expect people to get the back end of the truck in dirt, rocks and gunk, drum brakes will keep that gunk off the rotors

[@hochhaul]

Fortehoz So why the fuck does every other Toyota SUV and truck come with disc brakes. Tundra TRD Pro? Rear disk brakes. FJ Cruiser? Rear disk brakes. 4Runner? Rear disk brakes. Toyota is bending customers over and fucking them by using cheap antiquated drum brakes to save money and all you do is defend it by regurgitating the same bullshit excuse Mike Sweers used. Absolutely pathetic. If the TRD Pro had rear disk brakes and the ZR2 had drum brakes, I guaran-fucking-tee you wouldn't be defending the ZR2 for having them. Fucking fanboys.

[@OswaltSamuel]

Great video, I love how you guys state that each one has its strengths. I have an 18 TRD offroad Tacoma and I love my truck, but that diesel engine in the Colorado does look nice.

[@patruckbass7713]

Why is there a Trd off road in this video also

[@brandoncomer6492]

The ZR2 has a front locker, why are you sitting there spinning the front tire with it unlocked like a dunce.

[@JonBecker81]

Probably to try to make the Toyota look like it does better off road. News flash. It doesn’t.

[@cjsmith]

Toyota Tacoma 👌: No comparison 🤣

[@eddie95ee]

Till you load it up and it slams to the ground like air bags🤣cant haul shit

[@neil3858]

Big. mo. Oxnard but yet the gm has waay less of a tow rating than the taco

[@eddie95ee]

Honestly all the new trucks are good .guess it just depends what your need is

[@lukek3953]

6:19 - From here, it shows TRD Off Road but they are reviewing with TRD Pro. So what is it? Pro or Off Road?

[@sschevmale24]

Off road. Kind of hard to believe this dudes when they dont know what truck it is. Hes the first to also say throttle response is better than zr2. It's an ok motor.

[@Wendigo127]

They are reviewing the cement colored TRD Pro and the ZR2, but you can see the crew following them in the TRD Offroad in multiple shots.

[@edwardpeters4700]

Thank-you for mentioning appropriate use of diff-locks. They are not a "set it and forget it" feature.

[@themotofixery]

My ten year old Tacoma still runs like new. I love to drive it, love do do maintenance on it, best vehicle I've ever owned by far! Just my 2 cents

[@yomamaspussyhole]

Trd all day

[@F4izzle]

I’ve been wheeling and riding dirt bikes in that area for the last 20 years.

[@okstever]

Just ordered my 2020 Trd Pro today. Going to take until early December before I have it. Cant wait to get it dirty.

[@codyb6106]

Do it again in 10 years with the same 2 trucks. Toyota will still run.

[@danr3545]

It according to JD Power. And your frame will be rusted by then

[@rubenfranko6600]

Dan R and the chevy? Will be dead 💀

[@danr3545]

Ruben Franko frame won’t be rusted like the Toyota 😂😎😂

[@santannaguzmansr.1107]

Dan R the rusted frame was from the 1st gens, nice try though.

[@danr3545]

Santanna Guzman Sr. What about the stalling recalls? Lol 225K is a pretty big deal

[@yeulakho6574]

Tacoma all the way!

[@torocars9227]

More trucks. Btw good job

[@samesparza2149]

Did anyone hearing they said they had the gas zr2 or the deisel? I feel like comparing the Tacoma throttle to the deisel zr2 wouldn't be appropriate

[@edmundscars]

The ZR2 in the video was the gasoline powered V6.

[@samesparza2149]

Edmunds oh wow! Usually I have heard people enjoy the throttle response s bit more on the zr2 vs the Tacoma. Cool though. Thanks!

[@bigmacfullerton7870]

The ZR2 rides way smoother in rough stuff. Can go places the Tacoma can't go. Has a way nicer interior with way better goodies and is way more comfortable. Yes the Toyota is going to last forever but that Chevy is built to last and I have gotten 350 thousand miles on a 95 full size Z71 truck once. I would buy the Chevy out of these two.

[@coryr9938]

Diesel ZR2 all day any day.

[@gungfuriceboy]

Would it help to install an 'aftermarket' ( ie ARB ) Front Air Locker...for 'improved' Rock Crawling purposes? If So..how much would that 'cost'??...

[@michelharvey9823]

What a beautiful place to 4x4!

[@jackhook4192]

Good thing u didn't run into any mud u have to drag the Toyota out.the tires it comes with are totally worthless off road if u do any serious off roading that is.and front and rear lockers are a must for any serious off roaders.

[@alvinmc5593]

lol I will take the toyota's crawl control over the chevy front lock any day of the week.

[@melrose9252]

The Colorado is the best small or mid size truck GM has ever had but it is not as good a vehicle as the Tacoma. The test needs to come at 200k where the Tacoma will still be running strong and the Colorado may never make. Just saying.

[@andog6092]

I don't know, I miss the S10 that was a bad ass little truck

[@jordankidman168]

That’s pretty sad considering diesel trucks should easily make 300-400k miles if taking care of

[@jakestclair5682]

That seems to always be the Toy owners response, wait until 200,000 miles WTF !!!!!!!!!!! I usually trade in or sell before 100,000. I'm looking at right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jakestclair5682]

I'm just saying !!!!!!!

[@nofyfb123]

@@andog6092 : That 4.3 was garbage. I can list a dozen of UNIVERSAL problems s10/jimmy had. And it handled like a supermarket cart. Not my cup of tea.

[@Adriiian84]

amo mi tacoma especialmente en trerraceria

[@allterraintrucks5612]

How could you possibly choose a truck after taking both on one weak trail?

[@Mr19853]

Brought to you by Toyota!

[@hochhaul]

They managed to feature the gimmicky crawl control feature yet didn't even show the ZR2's front locker being used. They didn't even activate Off-Road mode in the ZR2, which changes throttle response, ABS response, disables traction control, and changes stabilitrack calibrations.

[@frick-n-frack4191]

My favorite feature of the ZR2.... FUN MODE!!!!

[@chevygmc3086]

Zr2 is beautiful

[@wk2466]

Why wouldn't you change the tires on the taco?

[@DucatiPaso750]

I'm wondering why they didn't address the cut tire on the Toyota.

[@bradleymckinney83]

If they would have put it in really hard courses or terrain u cant forget about that front locker too on the Colorado, while the Trd only has the rear... watched their other video comparing reg versions of these with the new ranger. Ford and Toyota both had open diffs but locking capability the Colorado didnt have that option.. while the ford and Toyota both had to use theirs on a certain part of the trail while rear tire was in the air and they were spinning, the Colorado has the limited slip/eaton locker in ther rear. It didnt have to stop and mash a button to get out it just kept goin while the one tire was in the air.. which was also spinning like a locker... so u may think I'm Chevy biased which I am but only to ford, I love Toyota and ram. Seemed they were way biased toward the Toyota. Especially part 1 of the 2 part series. Goin thru the desert at 45 the guys voice in the Tacoma was shaking while he was talking he was being rattled around so bad and the interior look like it was gonna come apart.meanwhile the Colorado looked smooth on the inside nothing moving around and the guys voice was t being shaken to death but somehow they gave that to the Toyota too... lol from all the options and real real world scenarios they would both do great but with wider stance better tires better shocks and ground clearance and front and back diff locks on this particular Colorado u cant tell me the Toyota would go where the Colorado does.. just my opinion from the vids and info given from the reviewer... thanks

[@bradleymckinney83]

Also dont forget they also said that one of the main reasons the trd flexes so much is bcuz from the front to the back of the cab has fully boxed frame... from there back it doesn't which they even said was weird for payload and trailering... I get it dont get me wrong but seems like a easy way out... box it all , up the payload, and do whatever else has to b done to get the flex ur so know for... I want a strong truck not just half strong truck... and no offense but the camera was on the Toyota SUV so it could get the angles of the Colorado goin up the hills with ease, just like the video starts out lol... just fun humor everyone domt take offense.. I'm just stating facts that were given to us during the videos.. the zr2 looks like chevys small version of the raptor... which doesn't even have an electric front locker.. they have their own version of one but u cant turn it on and off... it's like the eaton g80s chevys run but in the front... have a good one guys.. btw that would b a fun comparison to do... wide body zr2 diesel vs raptor ..!? Departure angles , low range speeds, rock crawling... I know it couldn't compete with all the hp of the raptor but for the slower stuff even the woops woiod b a fun video to watch.. closest thing to a raptor imo even though it's a mid size truck

[@thosetoyotaguys9124]

TOYOTA over everything!!

[@eddie95ee]

Chevrolet been around 100years.put that in your pipe ane smoke it

[@shannonzittlow8462]

If anyone is still reading these a site called 589fab has a great shock relocation kit for the ZR2. It makes it outbound of the springs and tucks it away

[@k9leadstheway531]

Test drove a Tacoma TRD off road, at least I think that's what model it was. It was a step down below the pro.. anyway, I liked the truck but the truck feels like it has no power. I know it's a v6 but just seemed powerless. I think I'll wait and drive the ranger and see how it compares.

[@jakestclair5682]

I drove the TRD and the ride was stiff, maybe needs to be driven to loosen up. The ZR2 was like a Cadillac with a bad side.

[@chrisafp071]

Oh man my 2016 Colorado Z71 fell apart. Loved the truck and put alot of time and money in but it has so many issues. Heat died twice mid winter, both screens failed, door handles on interior were popping off, brakes squeaked like crazy under 15k, leaf springs needed replacing, overall I'll never buy a Chevy anything again. To top it all off dealership fought me every step of the way.

[@Livefreepeace]

Chris Taylor same with me, so i traded it for a Tacoma My colorado was a 2017 z71 traded it at 5,000km

[@hochhaul]

LMAO you spelled Tacoma wrong: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ3Qonp6bJujmcU kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmTJmZ-EfJmora8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIevY5mBrLWKsKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDQYXucgNGnsLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/bafKkoRrppaqhZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZrNqH2earR5nNE kzbin.info/www/bejne/r37RpZSniLSXg5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKCpg4ejps-GjJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/bammeq17qdR9etk diff whine kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGKUnJaNg55nack kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIevY5mBrLWKsKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZzapaShn9WAq80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2Swn3iagriGY6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrSoZpufquJndk kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIqWgJeLqZuNodE kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2nadXWDjpKJrZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJiaooeJrM-LrqM www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2018-tacoma-factory-flaw.532117/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/new-2018-problem.548770/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/t-sb-0016-18-chirping-noise-fm-high-press-fuel-pump.542250/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/truck-dead-lol.487443/ 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[@FNSICK]

Ive always wanted a Diesel Colorado or Silverado but it will never happen. Ive had my 2007 Tacoma Since late 2015 and zero issues. 140k, still going strong. I just recently replaced a CV boot after i tore it wheeling. But, that was my fault. Ive put my Tacoma through a lot and she just keeps taking it.

[@camaro_kyle6851]

Chris Taylor wow talk about a hasty generalization. "The colorado gave me problems therefore I'm never buying chevy again" yeah last time i checked thats not how it works

[@mikefoehr235]

Sounds like my 88 Sierra 4x4

[@f1mikeyboy]

Something to consider. The Tacoma will have a much higher resale value, if ever thinking of selling it.

[@TheVikingSailor]

That's true now, but only for the same reason Jeeps have a high resale. It's all in the name. I'm waiting to see the Ranger Raptor.

[@magnacartasamadams8189]

I'll stick with my ZR2 Duramax I paid 37k new I've seen them from 2016 Going for over 35k still With over 30000 miles Also the ranger raptor is like 70k

[@eddie95ee]

People in this market typically buy them to keep

[@stephens5017]

So what, you're going to take the trd pro because of throttle response (which can be tuned) and shock mounts? That's worth paying more for the TRD despite it not having a front locker (huge advantage), no rock sliders, inferior shocks, inferior tires, and inferior drivetrain both in HP and trans? Not to mention you could get a diesel in the ZR2. I like the TRD pro but the ZR2 is a way more competent truck off road both in pre running and technical four wheeling, there's no way around it. Thanks for the video regardless but your verdict on the trucks only make sense if you're a Toyota fanboy.

[@tonymontana3742]

People go overboard with what tool is better. If you've got some place to go, then go. Most 4x4's could do that and honestly it doesn't really matter. Do you buy a brand new wrench and then take bolts out of stuff just to see how it works?

[@filmcostar]

ZR2 with the Diesel

[@normt5463]

filmcostar The reviewers found that the underpowered Toyota was just that compared to the more powerful ZR2!

[@ElJomoL]

ZR2 with V6, is still better than the TRD Pro. These on the video, dont know shit.

[@philllsxga.7737]

filmcostar you'll be highly disappointed.. I'm waiting for the 5.3..

[@sschevmale24]

PhillLsx Ga. 5.3 zr2 ???? When

[@philllsxga.7737]

JJD not sure. I've called gm multiple times, I have emailed these vehicle test magazines, I've talked to a rep at the auto show. She told me they have tons of requests for the 5.3.. I refuse to buy a Zr2 with the current engine choices, they are both junk! My 5.3 Silverado is slightly faster then a hemi ram and it is stock. It kicks ass!! I'm going to wait. Or not own a zr2 at all...

[@jedanduncan5624]

Newbie can’t mess with the Old School brand! TOYOTA ALL THE WAY.

[@mattjack4x4]

I could say the same if you brought a toyota to a dragstrip against a badass chevy from the 70s.

[@eddie95ee]

Newbie huh? We been pumping them out for 100years. Put that in your tacoma and smoke it

[@turbotysen]

have an 06 silverado z71 0 issues single cab short wheel base not gonna trade it for either of these anytime soon what are they doing nowdays the trucks are falling apart faster

[@MarioLoco03]

I've ALWAYS been into Tacomas and 4Runners but this ZR2 is changing my mind. The rear shock mount sucks though.

[@Lanse1984]

Maybe if you locked the axles on the zr2 LoL The only review that picks the taco over the colorado o_0

[@SDRacing88]

So true!! lol.

[@andog6092]

Except the one we're the trd off road has to tow the zr2 out of the mud after winning

[@texashills1987]

Andog 609 you must be talking about the video where the TRD goes In the mud right after and gets towed out by the zr2.

[@philharris4504]

Tacoma. All day, every day.

[@normt5463]

Phil Harris Tacoma takes a back seat to Colorado in Consumer Reports rankings.

[@d1sturb3d119]

If anyone's going to quote reliability statistics at least know how those statistics are collected. JD power and Consumer reports are all involve short term sampling. Also if you're buying anything based purely off rankings, you may be disappointed.

[@normt5463]

vidurc You can't go wrong with either truck in a small, off road package that would be cost prohibited to replace on a base model. The Toyota is older but they have done many updates. Toyota has not invested in engine or transmission tech for everyday use might be noticeable, but not in this setting. You will pay the "Toyota Tax" for precieved reputation because not much has changed like the old Nissan Fronteir. But when Colorado/Canyon returned Toyota pushed up the sales at that time. They also have competition from the new Ranger which could eclipse all of these smaller trucks depending on how Ford wants to allocate F-150 sales as too selling vehicle. The Tacoma really has no competition from Tundra in sales as they are pretty much moot.

[@d1sturb3d119]

Norm T you can't go wrong typically buying new. If you're planning on holding on to a vehicle though that may change. Personally I buy to own and I own quite a few cars so long-term reliability is Paramount. All depends on the buyer. When it comes to long-term reliability I'd pick the Tacoma any day. All of my trucks and cars have gotten us over 200k at some point in their lives so that's been pretty nice.

[@Bru946]

All these guys with stats. lol nah man the taco has been around forever and Toyota has ruled the small truck market forever for a good reason. The Colorado is alright but the Toyota has the lineage and to me it just looks way better.

[@shawngroom7931]

I'm currently driving a 2012 Ford F-150 4 door with a 6" lift and 35's. I've got 120,000 miles and only changed the water pump, nothing else. It's been a great truck. Back in 94 I bought a brand spanking new Toyota 4wd truck. The very next day after buying the Toyota, I get pulled over in town because I had no tail lights. It was a wiring issue. A couple weeks later the air conditioner quit working, had that fixed. About a month after, the windshield washer sprayers quit. Then the rear end started leaking. Later the starter went out. Then the rear end leaked again. Then the truck overheated and warped the heads on the motor. Luckily I had the extended warranty at that time. Then the wiring harness had to be replaced. a little time went by and the damn rear end started leaking AGAIN!!! I WAS DONE!! That was the biggest PIECE OF SHIT I ever owned!!! Also, the JACKASS that sold me my extended warranty gave me false information on the warranty. It didn't last as long as he said it was going to. I know not everyone has had the bad experience I had with Toyota but it does happen. They all will make a bad one from time to time. I'm thinking about trading my truck in soon and I am currently looking at the Colorado ZR2.

[@Shadowdancer777]

I want a tacoma so bad😭

[@Rangerxpcrew]

Looks like Trd had less problems Both nice rides for sure

[@triggerhappyreviews]

Long term this isn't a competition. The Chevy can't match Toyota quality.

[@Globbs]

What are you smoking though?

[@mopar21]

@@Globbs nothing. He's right. Toyota is killing it while Chevy is killing jobs, plants, and models.

[@igotajopamerica3040]

Toyota junk.

[@RB-xv4si]

Never even got to a point where the diff locks needed to be used. What kind of off road test was this?

[@JDub07]

So the ZR2 is like a mini Power Wagon.

[@mohamedalihebboul2214]

Toyota Tacoma

[@eddie95ee]

CHEVROLET COLORADO v6

[@mohamedalihebboul2214]

@@eddie95ee TUNDRA V8

[@eddie95ee]

@@mohamedalihebboul2214 =more gas and oil and 2 more spark plugs.no thanks

[@mohamedalihebboul2214]

@@eddie95ee Chevy colorado has more and more problems than Tundra with more gas

[@eddie95ee]

@@mohamedalihebboul2214 according to who? Been out since 2015.. funny how people that don't own one saying they have problems..v8 are old school already

[@jerrypatrom8886]

Zr2 all the way. I got a v6 zr2. My friend has a TRD Pro. He said he's going to trade his Pro for a Zr2.

[@jerrypatrom8886]

@s l It's not about the money. It's about what his needs.

[@jerrypatrom8886]

@s l Trust me he regrets of buying that Toyota. The new zr2 that hes getting is a bison. Tdr pro doesn't have a chance with with a zr2 bison.

[@jerrypatrom8886]

@s l That's his money. And he regrets buying a TDR PRO. He's going for the ZR2 BISON. I have a v6 zr2 basic. And it's funny how I get those toyotas out from the mud when they get stuck. Zr2 is the closest you can get for a Ford Raptor. Zr2 is 15 or 20 thousand dollars cheaper.

[@jerrypatrom8886]

@s l IDK about the reliability.? But chevys been doing better on there vehicles. On reliability and dependability. Seriously chevy has done lot better.

[@jakestclair5682]

I did the same exact thing, a need to get what you want, BECAUSE YOU CAN. And if I get a few thousand less when selling, could care less. Why buy high grade hamburger when you can have steak. After driving a ZR2 diesel, would have paid more than I did and really liked the TRD but had to change directions. Whole different game. The ZR2 drives like a sports car on the road and it's like riding on a high end mattress on the trail. The ZR2 suspension soaks up big small and all bumps. Never been in a truck with those mannerisms before. The TRD was good but not great. Get compliments and asked questions about the ZR2 all the time, especially (does that thing really have a diesel) never happened in the TRD.

[@garrylarose1506]

compare these two with a 2016 wrangler willys 2 door... with no lockers, would be hilarious

[@RefurbishedBacon]

Love toyota of course, but man you really have to hand it to chevy for what they've done with the colorado. I do agree though a tacoma with the zr2's powertrain would be the way to go. Now if only nissan could make a serious pro-4x frontier.