ZTTO MTB Cassette: Cheap, Lightweight, What’s the catch?

[@BigBlueMTB]

I own this cassette the rainbow design on my XC with Deore 12s GS and its been past a year already and its still working great.

[@Speedy.V]

I have the same cassette. The main issue is that you have to clamp it down real tight. After having it torqued down i had to tighten it up some more. Great buy ans weight of 398g. I mainly use it on my xc bike.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I actually wore down a specific tooth on the cassette so it slips. But it is great for non Ebike applications.

[@Gakk2-ii8vd]

Хорошая покупка для sram gx ?

[@caperider1160]

Hi. How smooth was the overall shifting performance with ztto? Compared to sram.

[@jleau89]

i have the SROAD equivalent and works great. Shaved 200g from an old NX cassette

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice I want to give one of those a try

[@janeblogs324]

I bought a few of the full alloy block 11-46t this year for $17 delivered. I have so many bikes it will be years till I can measure wear, but they weigh 320g

[@thewreckingball1150]

Nice honestly a huge advantage to the 11-46 is how cheap they are. I’ve considered going back

[@CWBmtb]

Worked very well for me for a long time however the last time I tried to unscrew the cassete the very thin material that engages on the tool totally went to shit! This same problem has happened to many people in my community

[@thewreckingball1150]

Good to know!

[@samj1185]

I bought one for my 1x TT bike. With infrequent use I expect it to last a while. Great review, thanks.

[@thewreckingball1150]

No problem! If you have any recommendations or things you want to see let me know. I can’t promise I’ll get to it but if your comment gets a lot of likes I’ll probably do it.

[@brothatwasepic]

Finally someone like me who needed a few more gears on a nice-looking cassette for our 1x time trial bikes! I hope it is still doing well

[@samj1185]

@@brothatwasepic no complaints! Only issues are with the rider.

[@JessieJoy-o4y]

Dandre Square

[@red5rich]

Your chain was skipping because it has wear (AKA stretch). Drive train wears together and if you change one of the three you can have problems. Try a new chain and chain ring with the new cassette.

[@thewreckingball1150]

You think a new chain ring will help my cassette? Chain definitely , however you can visibly see where the teeth are worn down. I also put a new chain on with the cassette.

[@red5rich]

@@thewreckingball1150, If you keep the chain ring you could have chain suck (stays stuck to the ring when it should be releasing it). Change it all out and the tolerance/spacing will all start off at the same level. I run my drive train past where my chain checker can measure :) I use a Garbaruk cassette and oval chain ring and a Xo1 chain so I'm going to run it for as long as I can and it still shifts great.

[@GokkunGuru]

Thanks for this. The poor quality control on the bent sprocket is a real dick limper.

[@thewreckingball1150]

It’s not a huge deal but ya it’s kinda a headache and like if it was a real bad I wouldn’t be convinced I would get a refund

[@TrailFReEK]

Love using ZTTO

[@thewreckingball1150]

Ya even despite the fiddling they are awesome

[@Dawid-jt4wr]

11 speed 9-50 13k km's on ryet - 0 problems 11k km on !one! gx chain ;D 1560km on ztto - works fine 0 problems but my derailleur don't works great, the issue is that my frame have bad interal port near derailleur and cable is folded - when i am doing uphill and clicking easier gears i must push like 1.5 click for perfect shift with no clicking, when i am using harder gears it looks like normal casette with great shifting now i'm waiting for 12 speed 9-50 i have now axs setup for this and that probably will be very good so sad that sram didn't work with 11 speed perfect and my whole drivetrain 11 will wait for winter/after rain "road" bike with carbon frame and fork

[@bikdav]

Reliability and longevity is far important to me than weight.

[@thewreckingball1150]

That’s cool, I think this might not be for you then, it’s definitely for light and cheap

[@ezoez7548]

You inspired me to try and build one for myself. Now i gotta save up for to build it 🤣. Except i was thinking of getting one of those trail cassettes and using a carbon 2x crankset to possibly save the most weight :0 the road cassette weights abt 203g

[@garysmith643]

I dont think longevity is necessarily compromised ! They srevprobably removing more material in areas deemed less important !

[@bm4122]

I got a s road to replace my 12 speed nx, unfortunately it didn’t work well with me in gears 2 to 3. Would not shift right.

[@n0b0dy07]

Some guys os Aliexpress said that it last long 15k km which is great In my opinion, actually this cassette were the reason to swap to 1x12 system

[@daniellarson3068]

Weight does matter. I'll shave those grams by skipping lunch.

[@thewreckingball1150]

That kinda gave me an idea about a video. A light bike really does feel good so I should compare 5 lbs of body weight vs 5 lbs of bike weight to see if it’s all in my head

[@daniellarson3068]

@@thewreckingball1150 I doubt if the 5 lbs is in your head. If like me, it's on the gut. 5 lbs of fat at 3500 calories a lb. So 5 X 3500 = 17,500 (Body calories are actually kcalories.) 1 cal = 0.001162 Wh 17,500 X 1000 X .001162 Wh / calorie = 20,335 Wh Like a battery. There are 31,000 kilo calories in a gallon of gasoline. 17,500 kilo calories X 1 gallon of gasoline / 31,000 calories = .565 gallons of gas If you are in Canada .565 X 3.785 liters / gallon = 2.14 liters of gasoline Those extra 5 lbs may not make you faster, but just maybe you can burn them to go further. It's just a thought.

[@DCer0]

What's the catch? It's not Hyperglide

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I had one branded ztto but gold finish, with a sumc chain both from AliExpress but I recently switched it for a 10-45 XT because I didn't have a HG body for my "new" set of used wheels, it didn't have time to deteriorate much since it was on a hardtail I mostly lend to guests but I noticed had some bits eaten on some of the tooths, for the very low price it's not that bad sunrace alloy cassette are pretty soft too...

[@zoranpl]

Steel is real deal...deore or nx...

[@pchykins6680]

what's the catch? wait until you crash and see....lightweight is overly hyped in cycling.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Have you ever broken a cassette? I have never heard of anyone doing that.

[@oplkfdhgk]

don't know about their casettes but most of their other stuff seems good so i would probably guess that this is also good.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Ya it’s all pretty good. Nothing amazing but good

[@bendu88]

They shift like shi*t compared to sram/shimano.

[@thewreckingball1150]

That hasn’t been my experience.

[@dariorseventyeight]

The idea of the hardness test was genius but implementation needs more attention. Assuming of being able to replicate the load consistently, you'll need a microscope, or any means for high magnification, to observe variation in the indentation. This way perhaps a difference can be spotted.

[@thewreckingball1150]

I got the idea from the Brunel harness tests. So it actually wasn’t an original idea 😀

[@kobakakhidze100]

Best cassettes maked TRW, not ZTTO. Also, no need to use gravel cassette for hard MTB ridings...

[@thewreckingball1150]

I’ll give trw a try do you have a link, also not a gravel cassette

[@kobakakhidze100]

no, because I myself live in China, although I think that other manufacturers try to make cassettes as light as possible, it is by weight that their products can be sold (there is a SEQ 11-28 cassette weighing 150g, for example), therefore, they are intended for road or gravel bikes. For MTB, I would pay attention to those cassettes that are made of either steel or 7075 aluminum, for example Sunshine makes these, but they are very expensive, around $250, but they weigh 367 grams (they also produce similar cassettes for SRAM in iol slick design). Big brands do not produce such cassettes, but simply combine small 7075 chainrings with large steel chainrings to reduce the weight a little (from 650 to 450 grams).

[@MrBirdshell666]

poor shifting performance. that is the catch

[@thewreckingball1150]

It definitely has its issues especially with the biggest gear.

[@ToddNZMTB]

Haven't tried ZTTO [yet] but Sunshine SZ is absolute rubbish.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Good to know

[@tiagocunha7732]

why? what is your experience with SZ ?

[@ToddNZMTB]

@@tiagocunha7732 it cracked and fell apart 😥

[@fewkilometersaday]

I am also using ZTTO MTB cassette but cheaper version, works fine 550 grams around and quality is good.

[@rider65]

🤔 Assuming you maintain your bike (and chain) wet conditions really won't accelerate wear. UNLESS... you don't wipe off the water/dirt/mud/grit etc., then lube the chain after each ride in wet conditions. I suspect the premature wear is a product of a combination of variables instead.

[@jackdawson5668]

Ben are you happy for me to use this video to promote the use of Safestand as an alternative to situations like this?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Shoot me an email about the product.

[@Gakk2-ii8vd]

Сколько километров прошла эта кассета ?

[@thewreckingball1150]

Probably 1000. But on an ebike so much harder miles.

[@SnootchieBootchies27]

The money "saved" has to come from somewhere. It comes from cheaper material that wears faster. You're not saving money in the long run. Easy math.

[@thewreckingball1150]

Hard to take your comment seriously when you’re name is snootchie bootchies 😂

[@SnootchieBootchies27]

@@thewreckingball1150 didn't really feel like spending half a day trying to find a handle that wasn't taken and really "represented me" or some crap.

[@Nick-lm9hg]

Hard to take your comment seriously with that grammar​@@thewreckingball1150

[@thewreckingball1150]

@@Nick-lm9hg this is between me and SnootchieBootchies

[@DS-um9hi]

The saving comes from slave labour... I am OK with that 😅

[@GamesBond.007]

This cassette is not intended for e-bike use. There is much greater load on an e-bike cassette, that's why it has worn much faster than on the regular bike.

[@GamesBond.007]

Have you tried the Spedao 12 speed cassette ? Its just as light, but it's better built (by Lexon). I have 3 of them in test and all work very well. I dont have an ebike so I didnt test it on that. But these super light cassettes are not for heavy E-bikes anyways, you need special cassette for that because of the higher loads.

[@alexanderwolterink5622]

Hi I recently replaced the ZTTO for a Spedao and I'm not very happy with it. It wobbles and shifts bad (maybe because of the wobble)