Real Talk with Zuby #81 - Arielle Scarcella | LGBT, Feminism & Leaving the Left

[@arielle]

Thank you so much for having. me on an allowing me to "speak my truth." LMAO

[@ZubyMusic]

Much love Arielle! Great to connect!

[@jimkennedy4509]

Even if I disagreed with you you should not be silenced.

[@vsksf]

@@jimkennedy4509 What could you disagree with.? genuinely interested to hear.

[@jimkennedy4509]

@@vsksf I am sure we do NOT agree on everything. I did not hear anything in this talk that I disagree with. My main point is people we disagree with - whomever they are - should not be silenced. She is probably more on the left end of the political spectrum (not FAR left) and I am more on the right side (not far or far right adjacent more libertarian) but I am sure we would disagree on some issues.

[@vsksf]

@@jimkennedy4509 OK, thanks for clarifying, like yourself I consider myself with a big toe on the right ( but a whole football field away from new age SJW's and feminists ) and I find Arielle rational and refreshing. I guess I assumed you meant you found this talk disagreeable.. stay safe out there.!

[@becklong5111]

Hey, 21 year-old transsexual guy here. Just wanted to say thanks so much for having Arielle on here. We the non-crazies absolutely love her, and having her on your channel is such a freaking breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work, man.

[@patriomediavideo1127]

Tomboy but love men. If what is happening now happened when I was growing up I'd probably be confused as hell

[@patriomediavideo1127]

@Clive G two sexes. You're born male or female. Its simple.

[@myacole1272]

@Carmen G gender is in correlation of sex

[@ivarrouk6708]

@Carmen G your premise is crap, in most languages there isnt even a word for "gender" its purely grammatical term historically. Has nothing to do human beings

[@scarlet8078]

I'm so glad you mentioned racism towards us by liberals. Tbh I live in a very liberal city & have extreme leftist friends & it's gotten to the point where I'm a prop. Everyone wants to stand beside me in group pix so they can show they've got a minority friend on the gram. Also the bigotry of low expectations is real. We're all ivy-league professionals & I have as many privileges as they do, yet if there's a dinner convo about university admissions everything just expects that we all must support affirmative action (what you in the UK call positive discrimination). They also act like I'll be triggered by discussions involving certain topics. These white liberals really do view us as lesser people. The message of conservativism - that everyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps - might be somewhat simplistic & overly optimistic, but at least it's empowering & not outright racist. Our communities need to choose positive narratives

[@JoeSmith-iv3sf]

What I discovered moving from a suburbs of the city growing up and living in the city from time to time as an adult, when I moved from city to far out in country. The ppl have so much in common w minorities in the inner city the only major difference is skin color. The poor in these no where communities while being drastically white suffer with horrible education systems. Massive drug problems, particular meth and heroin. Along w lots of broken families. The kids in this town had to take drug test at school to have a parking permit for the High school kids. The difference between that and cities was the billions in tax revenue brought in all around them. The giant Hospitals, colleges, sports teams, extremely large businesses w 100' s if not 1000's of employees. The vast majority of ppl that make it out of that or succeed literally put work boots on everyday. This is the huge echo chamber\ difference that your ivy league friends are not seeing w their arguments on Racism, immigration, sexism, etc. It's like they decided that well "I" am not gonna cut lawn and oh it's racist to have black ppl do it for $10 bucks an hour and frankly they won't do it anyway. So what we need a "New" permanent lower class of ppl that will work to cut your lawn or clean your house for $10 bucks an hour. Well would those " Black ppl" do it for $15 bucks an hour $20? Aren't they capable of actually opening their own business and doin for themselves. One of my best friends families growing up had a lawn care business and made close to half million dollars a year. Free college is useless if everyone goes. Colleges aren't teaching ppl how to think they are teaching you what to think.

[@celty5858]

That's terrible.

[@skatermom8259]

Scarlet- I don’t think that’s a group of real friends since they treat you like a prop. I have come to the realization that if someone is constantly talking about race/labels/identity politics- they are part of a cult mindset and i get away from them as fast as possible. Surround yourself with real people who see you for who you are inside- not for the immutable characteristics you were born with. ❤️ love to you

[@Rodzilla5332]

Scarlet I’m curios if you have found that conservatives tend to speak to you the same that they speak to everyone else and liberals tend to change how they talk as well as dumb down their words and speak in a way that is not normal to how they usually speak?

[@Seaby41]

Just watched a video that illustrated that very well. Think it was about voter id. Fella spoke to white liberal types about it then followed up speaking to blacks about it including some of the responses from the while folk. New York I think. Hang on, I'll find the fella's name..

[@Spectrumelf]

I think people conflate "transgender people" with "people with gender dysphoria." I had gender dysphoria thru childhood and teenagerhood then I grew out of the dysphoria as an adult. Never called myself trans.

[@carmensandiego5788]

Some people with gender dysphoria do indeed grow out of it. However if its intact permanent then transition is often the way to deal with it.

[@YouTubeWatcher9000]

I think there was a study that said something like 70% or 80% of people with gender dysphoria grow out of it. Also a lot of leftists are pushing for hormone blockers to be given to children, which not only causes lasting problems with growth and development, it also brings that 70% or 80% down to 0%. I think anyone who believes they are transgender should go to therapy before they do anything because a lot of people end up regretting transitioning. I also think you should be at least 18 before you take any hormones/ hormone blockers or have any surgeries done.

[@roriemarie2968]

I like this conversation because it talks about celebrating the differences between men and women and our own unique traits that we bring to the table. ..for me...Being able to develop a child in your body and nurture that child after it's born giving it all the substance it needs from your own body is a superpower. My husband said he honestly did not know how strong women women were physically or mentally until he saw me go through labor..it changes a person's perception of strength...

[@theginjaninja132]

Men and women are supposed to complete each other not compete against eachother

[@UNCAUfan87]

"Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one's own beliefs. Rather it condemns the oppression or persecution of others."-John F. Kennedy This is a quote that a LOT of people, regardless of our differences, don't know or don't understand.

[@InfiniteMonkeysSA]

Should we be tolerant of the beliefs that lead people to throw homosexuals off of buildings?

[@UNCAUfan87]

I can see why people wouldn't be, but I've never had anything but pleasant experiences with Muslims, so I'm not going to say anything bad about them.

[@angelabaiers5055]

My sister came out in the 80's. It was a difficult journey. She was the 1st girl in the 70's in my city & State (Michigan) to make Babe Ruth & All-star teams. All male teams. That was a huge fight! She worked her ass off. She earned her place. Respect from coaches, teammates, & competitors. She earned her place & respect playing 1st & 3rd base in High School Baseball! It is difficult for us to support ABC attachment & trans athlete situation. It is not fair to girls, women or regular lesbians athletes. Sorry, not sorry.

[@Rodzilla5332]

As Douglas Murray said in his book (he’s a gay man) that soon the L and the G will realize that they can not coexist with the T’s in LGBT. The trans activist are going so hard at the kids that a child who may have grown up to be a happy gay man will be told as a child that they are actually a girl in a boys body. He’s absolutely right about that.

[@sydIRISH]

It will have a P in there soon for Pedosexual

[@unicyclepeon]

Arielle seems super chill. Good discussion yall!

[@harrymills2770]

Straight white men and black men are finding more in common than sets them apart, these days. It's in reaction to divisiveness of identity politics, and good dads are good dads, regardless of anything else. Different skin. A lot of shared values.

[@sydIRISH]

That's why the left are trying so hard to divide us.

[@Jenkkimie]

I am a liberal at heart and asexual to boot, but I never associated with the LGBTQ+ community in any way. Two reasons are that I have never been fond of anyone speaking on my behalf even if they mean well. I'd rather pick my own battles, have my own achievements and mistakes and learn from them so I can grow rather than have someone do it for me on my behalf and especially since we are all unique individuals,with our own interests, experiences, ambitions and goals in life. I am no better representing you, as you are representing me. But also exactly this observation I made years ago of growing doublestandard towards different groups. When a progressive is calling a conservative African American uncle Tom, in what way is that any different from calling an African American with the n-word. Either you do none out of principle, or you are not being honest about yourself to yourself and to others. I understand that different communities have experienced a lot of pain and that causes grief, but be productive and just. More importantly be the bigger person and lead by example. At the moment the LGTBQ+ community is starting to remind me of a quote: "Beware when fighting monsters, see that in the process you yourself do not become a monster. For when you gaze upon the abyss, the abyss gazes back at you." - Friedrich Nietszche.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

I couldn't agree more, beautifully said! Funnily enough, I'm also asexual.

[@sydIRISH]

@@ThinWhiteAxe Asexual? Damn, that's a gift. Women are on my mind 24/7....and I'm married.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

@@sydIRISH it's a blessing/curse just like anything else... more of a blessing to me, but I suppose I'm probably missing out on something or other and of course it's also an evolutionary dead end... but I think it's just fine :)

[@sydIRISH]

@@ThinWhiteAxe Well you're probably in luck. People are fucking crazy these days. You can't trust anyone...you might have hit the jackpot. I actually found the one chick who is the yin to my yang. I hate people, she's a people person. She's loud, outgoing...and I'm more laid back. She's a firecracker. Life would suck without her though.

[@melaniehenson9737]

I loved this conversation from both of you! 2 dynamic souls speaking truth from 2 different perspectives and actually agreeing is refreshing! Thank you! I agree with EVERYTHING you guys spoke on. Peace, Love & Light!

[@skatermom8259]

Zuby! Another fantastic interview, I just love listening to your shows and views. Keep up the great work!

[@modernatta906]

Personally, I'm politically in the center. Liberals may get in arms if you go against their current narrative, but so do conservatives. I wish we could have a good center party that embodies the good from the right and the left 🌟

[@ginelleiammarino7195]

Modernatta that’s true, there’s crazies on both sides, usually the radical right/radical left. That’s why I’m generally libertarian. Small government, personal responsibility, and individual freedom.

[@ginelleiammarino7195]

CJED I have no issue in helping people who are genuinely in need. I just don’t think the answer is expansion of government.

[@ginelleiammarino7195]

CJED you would be one to assume wouldn’t you? *rolls eyes*

[@toddpacker4683]

Enlightened centrist

[@patrickselden5747]

Thanks for the conversation, people - it made me think and that's not bad... ☝️😎

[@Tweegrrl]

Great conversation, thanks so much!

[@michaelrauch8629]

Happy to find someone else propping up Arielle

[@lauramahieu3799]

Brilliant guest ! You should get Blaire White on !!! :)

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

SECONDED

[@Multi-Pass]

Please do get her on!!

[@PrintAndPlayPodcast]

Another great guest and great interview. I'd love to hear about the "projects" in a second follow up interview.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

DOH! I have seen her on some other videos and like what she has to say, so looking forward to this. But.... working my way back up to the top as 2nd comment :)

good guest!

[@mapzep]

Yes, thanks for having her on she knows what the "woke folks" are all about!

[@drakvaclav826]

What a great podcast!

[@coyotej4895]

I have been struggling with Gender Dysphoria since I was quite young and then the sexual confusion that come with that. I was well on my way to making the full transition but after more personal research I realized that I would not be able to finish for many reasons and I would have to fiend another way to come to grips with my internal struggles. I found that in the community you can get support and feel good being part of a group but then when I began to get older and I began to see inconsistencies in the liberals message and behavior yet others where not seeing the hypocrisy, But saying it and your turned on and they would not even look at another point. Over the last few years how badly the Democrats are acting all across the country had opened my eyes to them as well and now I must walk Away. I am a white man who was raised in an Alaskan Native Family and because I'm white I'm Raciest, and if I don't agree I am also a bigot and vilified. Its got me truly Worried.

[@coyotej4895]

@Lesbian Amazon Sister You ever get the chance read some of Richard Bach? I love Illusion's as a nice one day read. He has some on pint stuff to say to help you through time where just saying "This will Pass" is not enough. :) Be safe and thanks for the words. :)

[@cjamthepatricianakabilldoo7852]

Zuby’s razor is a merch opportunity right there do 3 sets do a MEM’S and WOMAN’S set in blue and pink and an empty bag for the other genders that will piss the SJW’s right off

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

I like her even more now! Thank you both for a nice conversation and fighting the good fight :)

[@andrewdock7288]

Probably the best lnterview with Arielle.

[@belyndaspruill1166]

Late to the party but awesome conversation...I love it when logic collides

[@Seaby41]

I wouldn't introduce myself as a lesbian, I'd usually introduce myself as Italian..

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

The question about why Arielle describes herself the way she does was excellent (as was her answer). I have a lot of identity labels I could choose from and will bring up very occasionally if they're relevant, but generally I prefer to identify myself as a musician/music fan first and foremost (hence my KZbin profile).

[@emilyzorn2450]

This was such a great video, I just found your channel & I love your content!

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks Emmy!

[@tiffaroni1966]

Really liked her view on things..Very likeable guest. 👏👏

[@init100]

Haha, I heard someone mention Zuby's Razor recently, probably on a podcast. I remember googling it. So it was you who coined it, cool. Found your podcast yesterday, and I have already listened to two episodes. Edit: Found one of your songs on Twitter. I'm not a big rap fan, but this was funny: "I gave you twelve rules for life and kept my room clean, I'm the Jordan Peterson of rap." 😁

[@ZubyMusic]

Thank you!

[@baylorsailor]

My closest friends of years are a lesbian couple. They've had Trump derangement since be was elected. I didn't like him at first but I definitely didn't hate the guy. Then the truth was revealed to me and now I'm a walkaway. I finally told them my stance, but they weren't really interested and had no points to make as to why they hate him. Since the riots started they've become bazaar. It's sad. I have never pushed my politics on them and I still won't. But I have been more outspoken on social media, as well as shared walkaway info on my newsfeed. I'm hoping eventually they will decide to see the light so this doesn't tear us apart.

[@GtMcGee]

that anecdote about the friend getting fired for being gay was super sus

[@chriswhinery925]

Yeah. I'm not saying it's impossible but I am saying that only hearing one side of that particular story is not enough for me to just buy it at face value.

[@sydIRISH]

Gays were bullied for a long time, now they have a little power AND THEY LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEE IT. The bullied become the bullies. Not all, but the SJWs...the ones you can't help but hate.

[@pseudonamed]

she seems like a sensible person. I miss the old LGB community when I was younger and you could just hang out with other gay/bi people without all this pressure to make everything political

[@colonialroofingofnorthcaro441]

I call couples guys sometime, I'll say I'll meet you guys there, and its a man and a woman, so everyone has a way of talking that isn't got any harmful intent behind it. It's rediculous , and it is speech patrol which is a dangerous thing to where it can go. This same language the group's thier talking about is the same utterous that killed millions in Russia, so it's a danger in it.

[@DeclanOF]

33:16 I'm pro-choice, but I admired and loved Dolores O'Riordan, who opposed abortion because she felt it demeaned and hurt women. I highly doubt she was trying to control women.

[@storieswithannaliese5735]

Still, a woman has a right to choose what to do with her body.

[@billyboy9034]

Good question, Zuby. Good question...

[@Mz_Tingley]

ZUBY BRING HE BACK PLEASE!!💚

[@philipwood6235]

Arielle is cool as fuck. I wish I could chill with her. It’s lonely being a part of the left for so long but now since I’m not willing to ride with them into looney town, who do I got?

[@harrymills2770]

You don't have to get all the way to the root of rejection of reason in order to recognize its absurd fruits.

[@repooc84]

Oh boy. She's going to love guns!!

[@MontreBible]

lol why am i just NOW seeing this. Good collab guys ... as a part of the alphabet gang I agree there's massive difference with how the older gen and the younger gen not only thinks but defines or REDEFINES words. Which is long run is going to be self destructive.

[@Mz_Tingley]

THERE ACTUALLY IS A GAY MOB, ELLEN IS THE GOD MOTHER, ITS REAL IT EXISTS!!

[@eemoogee160]

Tell her bff George Bush

[@nicpic1985]

2015 as a bite point makes sense as in the UK would be 6-12 months after full gay marriage rights granted. Point blank activists' jobs became redundant so all the black, female, gay, disability continued "fights" are preservation of livelihoods.

[@uqdroma]

Those of us on the libertarian right, who have accepted homosexuality as a reality of life, despite popular belief about us, used to call SJW's the 'Gaystapo.' Just to correct the record of who we were insulting. ;)

[@estelaluciau.v3450]

Exactly! I've been saying that if we are going to accept dysphoria as a valid condition, we should be talking about sex dysphoria!

[@carmensandiego5788]

Agreed

[@michaelweber5702]

If I don't like something it does not mean I hate it...

[@toshiyaar7885]

I stopped being woke when I started passionately disagreeing with myself 😬

[@toshiyaar7885]

@anc i think so. Knowing my own values and being comfortable with it. I don't follow a single homginized ideology, and I change my mind a lot. I don't care that everybody has different ways of seeing things, there's no such thing as wrong think in my world. There's not a single person in the world that I am in line with 💯. I'm comfortable with the fact that not everyone is going to like me or agree with me. I'm open to reaching out or work with anyone who is willing to do the hard yards regardless of their own beliefs. Once upon a time, I did none of these things. I was incredibly homginized, followed a line, picked a side, Believed that my side would never lie. How wrong I was. I am now free of that narrow minded useless frame of thought. Walking between worlds is freedom. I'll take one step at a time. Work with anyone who wants to take that step with me. But I'll never fall in line again.

[@DiegoGarcia-ip7pr]

A basic (sensible)lesbian (I will add that to my vocabulary, love it), good, thanks, something I can understand. Just a normal person, well within what I consider to be everyday normal. Into women but otherwise I can understand what she means. And nothing wrong with that, whatsoever.

[@MissAllWednesday]

I'm an on and off watcher of yours Zuby, I think it'd be interesting if you got a podcast down with KZbinr's Aba and Preach. That would be a fun listen!

[@madamluis2537]

Maryam G no.

[@MissAllWednesday]

@@madamluis2537 Why not? I think they provide great commentary regarding double standards in today's society, but they're comedic, which will be fun to hear Zuby in a more improvisational setting so to speak.

[@NikhileshSurve]

43:00 Excuse me, it's Football⚽! You just lost your British citizenship & this is coming from an Indian from India 😂 who loves Cricket more. But still great interview otherwise.

[@SimpPro101]

Strange question, how do Americans reconcile you being black but not "African American"? Do they have gaffes regularly?

[@uqdroma]

Anitfa = Thought Police

[@shaejanisewski3688]

1:40 you've basically saying you sympathize with homophobes because you look down on other lgbt people

[@sgt.sharky9832]

Whats worse than denying facts is celebrating the reverse in a way that teaches kids to aspire to do something not healthy. Back in the day you could say it was wrong for Hollywood to have the coolest character in their movie smoking cigarettes as part of their character, or now with marvel pushing out a fat super hero. We should never down grade a person for who they are, but we also shouldn't try to make it so kids aspire to be that person. The problems we are facing today is being caused by equality being attained by law. So now activist don't have anything to scream about on the social front so they are literally coming up with ridiculous stuff that will never be accepted. Some of the crap that has been pushed in the past couple of years is like fantasy vs reality. A person is a mix of feminine and masculine traits both mentally and physically. Maybe in a man named Jim down the street feels he is trans woman because he is more feminine than masculine. I've never subscribed to the notion a certain man was born in the wrong body, because how would he even know? Its not like he is the thing he subscribes to be without being that person?

[@darbylarson8800]

i cant figure out how to skip past the stupid ad

[@darbylarson8800]

30 seconds into it and it keeps going. i think i'm just going to go watch a minecraft lets video instead. so long

[@Rodzilla5332]

I love me some Zuby but if you’re talking more than your guest then you are doing the whole interview thing wrong. I like Zuby a lot and he’s new at this and will adapt and get better at it but it’s why people like Larry King and Joe Rogan are great. I love Candice Owens as well but when you do a word count on her interviews I challenge you to find an interview where she doesn’t say twice as many words as her guests. I hope you see this and don’t take it as a harsh critique but a well intentioned piece of advice that you don’t have to take but do give some serious thought.

[@Power_Verse_]

She act like no other groups speak up for women.

[@jamiemedinger7761]

Single hmu lady lol

[@mimachan2557]

zuby dont interview people like this or around lgbtqi , They manipulate 🤦‍♀️

[@pgottsha84]

She seems to be presenting an olive branch of sorts to the sjw types (not that it will in any way benefit her) with the whole concept of attempting to present as your currently decided upon gender, or 'pass', in order to earn her approval to do so. This just seems to me inherently problematic, as (among many other things) there are extremely unfortunate males who can look extremely feminine, as well as unfortunate females who would 'pass' as male... all of this having absolutely no impact whatsoever on their genetics, gender, or sex. The entire premise is based from the ground up on completely specious and incoherent ideology...which is why it's not at all surprising that it seems to be entirely within the far left, where they almost seem to take pride in a prevalence of incoherent ideas, policy prescriptions, and an apparent complete lack of willingness to learn from humanities past (although that last one does seem to be a problem among most).

[@JerryStanaway]

If there is such a thing as a hate crime killing unborn children should be a hate crime.

[@Sashatake]

This man made a career out of talking about trans people ... get a real job

[@michaelweber5702]

Zuby speaks the truth on dishonest and distracting issues . All truth seekers thank Zuby and the other honest folks he has on his podcast... Hip Hip Hooray !!

[@chilledtea6614]

homophobic and proud lol