Larry Elder - The Fatherless Epidemic | Real Talk With Zuby Ep. 308

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Radio host Larry Elder joins Zuby today to discuss the West’s fatherless epidemic. The two kick things off with a review of conservative and liberal dynamics, the progression of California’s politics, and the brand perception of political parties in 2024. The two then turn to policy framing, our era of ‘looking vs doing good’, before a deep dive into fatherlessness and its impacts on young men today.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:07) “Ground News Ad”
(03:12) “Exit & Build Land Summit Ad”
(04:22) Liberal/conservative dynamics
(17:45) Progression of California politics
(19:59) California’s global context
(24:44) Political party ‘branding’
(33:25) Policy narrative framing
(41:56) America’s fascination with politics
(50:23) Looking good vs doing good
(59:13) The epidemic of fatherlessness
(1:05:38) Outro
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[@HonestMan247]

You're not wrong that 'connecting the dots' on policy outcomes is important for accurately communicating the message. But just understand that the message is going to be taken out of context regardless. Legacy/government media aren't going to stop lying to people. So, the only people hearing that whole context would be the people who already understand the whole context anyway. You're not wrong, it's just a much more difficult problem to get the (whole) message out to the people who actually need to hear it, as long as they're relying on legacy media for information.

[@sanniepstein4835]

California could have had this man as governor. That they don't shows real idiocy, or corruption, or both.

[@jbp122]

I’m here in California and vote republican. The take down of Larry was so predictable. They just painted him as a Trump supporter and being anti woman. That was enough to beat him. It was really disappointing.

[@ComfortablyDumb42069]

LA/SF are so big they basically overwrite the votes of the rest of the state, I drove from LA to Seattle to visit friends back in early 2020 and there were Trump flags throughout the whole state except for LA/SF 🤣🤦

@@jbp122 He is both..

[@Juulmand1]

@@jbp122 Native Californian here. I also voted for him. We continue to vote for our own destruction in this state.

[@Political-du8yd]

U mean that as a joke or r u serious?

[@cathyburkart9395]

Larry Elder should be our president. ♥️🇺🇲

[@ZubyMusic]

That would make too much sense so they can't let it happen.

[@Dmiller7239]

Awesome VP pick

[@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667]

​@@Dmiller7239 Trump / Elder 2024! Let's Go!!!!!

[@topcover7390]

Agree!

[@jlambson82]

I was SOOOOOO disappointed when Mr Elder didn't win the California governorship. He would have been fantastic.

[@topcover7390]

Larry Elder isn't just incredibly smart, he is simply a wonderful man.

[@dhenry1976]

Larry's dad is my hero. Not only was he a hard working veteran but he gave us Larry.

[@vic8ball]

Thank you Zuby for bringing in Mr. Larry Elder. Much needed conversation.

[@ZubyMusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

I teach as an adjunct in a non Woke University. However, I teach in the school of Ed and Psychology. I am an independent. I asked my boss, “How many Republicans are teaching here?” She said, “I know all 120 professors……None”.

[@timeweston]

It's extraordinary really. When Zuby says Academia 'leans left', it's way beyond that. It's fallen completely

[@RogueA.I.]

Two of the great voices of common sense!

[@ibnzuhr8722]

I discovered Larry Elder in 2017 as a 1st year foreign master's student and his channel "The War on SJWs". Instantly, I agreed with his libertarian views. If he won in California, I will have probably considered moving there.

[@paulgentile1024]

Unfortunately not a chance in hell

[@ygjoeytran]

Larry Elder speaks so much sense. The fact that the world is filled with so many brilliant people like this and they aren't leading us speaks volumes.

[@jaamall]

Yes, they expect us to seek them out and not the other way around. Its why they lose to democrats.

[@gordonstarship]

Larry Elder and Zuby. Big fan of both. Very happy to see this interview! Thanks

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks for watching!

[@Imovement]

The truely amazing Larry Elder.

[@Nyagrafalls10]

25:05 Bingo Zuby. It’s aaaaaall about the feels. The appearance of beauty and virtue while neglecting the substance.

[@YVang472]

For the social welfare reforms of the 50s and 60s, I encourage people to look into the man-in-the-house rule that was a part of the war on poverty. Essentially, you were denied welfare checks if you had a father or "substitute" father in the home. If your household was receiving welfare checks, occasionally you would get random visits from social workers that have dogs specifically trained to smell adult males if they were hiding. Like everything government, the policies are enforced with good intentions, but you also need to look into which groups advocated for it and how radical some of these people were. I'm a millennial, and a lot of my seniors (baby boomers) have talked about this to me because I have a family of my own and I take a lot of pride in being a father and husband. In their views, these policies were mostly intentional in destroying the family unit, especially when you look into the works of Kate Millett (radical feminist) and the New Left advocacy groups. Look into their views on the family unit, read their work, and it's pretty clear to me that... yeah, getting rid of the father/diminishing his role was definitely intentional from these groups.

[@paulgentile1024]

The Left/ Marxist ..... Agendas

[@anncoady7657]

Greeting from Ireland,you are a really good man ,Keep going you deserve success 😊🇮🇪

[@user-19867]

Zuby asked phenomenal questions. I do not understand the disconnect between what people can see and how they continue to vote.

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks!

[@paulgentile1024]

brainwashing!

[@ZubyMusic]

Hit that like button!

[@davidmagdaleno753]

RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!

[@mskimrn9636]

Larry Elder is such a bad ass. Fathers (real fathers) are what is missing in current society. By the grace of God, I had a strong father.

[@kaymoto4023]

Californians missed their greatest opportunity for redemption by not electing Larry Elder as governor.

[@quotivation47]

Indeed!

[@andrewdoeshair]

I voted gleefully for Larry

[@eamonnosullivan5412]

Hey Zuby ! I love Larry. Great guest ! Great host ! Great show !

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

Everyone! Please read “Dear Father, Dear Son”. It’s a tear jerker.

[@markb4021]

Great discussion. Mr. Elder is the true Elder Statesman and Legend. Thank you both!

[@danielleal1037]

It’s great to see such great minds have a conversation... 👊💪

[@CarlosFlores-mz6fw]

Whenever i see Me Elder i click and watch!. Love his perspective. 💪

[@TBrizzle]

It's very telling how attacked this man is with the message he spreads. It's a shame

[@amareen79]

Love these men. I am glad I had a chance to hear this dialogue. Time well spent. ❤️

[@AdamYoung-uy1yv]

Was already a burgeoning fan of Larry Elder, this completed the process 👍👍👍

[@eamonnosullivan5412]

Perfect sound here !

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks for listening!

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

Larry and The Zubinator ❤

[@kathycourtney2]

I love Larry!!

[@smoss9813]

Such an interesting guest. This guy is so smart it's wonderful to listen. Thank you

[@seansoccer100]

It’s videos like this that keep my hope alive that we can improve as a country. Great stuff gentlemen! ❤❤

[@Alipotamus]

Love Larry Elder!❤️

[@villarreal2025]

great interview, I'm a big fan of mister Elder!

[@ZubyMusic]

Thanks!

[@mattsmith259]

No politician or system will save you! .... move accordingly!

[@dycars8443]

No matter where you go you cannot run away from the problem.

[@RogerBaumgarten]

GREAT conversation.

[@roymcewen8203]

What An Excellent Discussion ‼️

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

I voted for Larry. Too bad for California. Perhaps Trump will put Larry in charge of something.

[@user-jb8wj5jv1v]

For an African(Ghanaian) who always thought I had no skin in this game , I stumbled on a women conference which was discussing gender pay gap in Accra and I was shocked. It is ridiculous how easy the influence of the west particularly America and the UK rubs on a Sub Saharan West African state.

[@endlessfeast]

Fantastic podcast 👏 👌

[@phranklinenglert7825]

This needs WAY more views.

[@derrudia]

Great conversation. Love the part about mentorship. Everyone needs a big homie, a Jason Wilson, a Myron Golden, a Thomas Sowel. Starts in the schools. Interschool mentorship programs start to build up there pipeline of ready mentors and receptive mentees. Also love your point in marketing. It needs to get younger. Let the older guys refine what's on the screen but they don't need to be the focus. Goes against the idea of family really.

[@timeweston]

Those stats speak volumes; 3% of university professors are conservative, 3% in Hollywood. Hence the growing disconnect between them and the rest of the country.

[@jeremyweems4916]

I think this is the most honest politician I've ever heard.

[@0_3_6_9_0]

50:23 Perfect! Accurate. Thank you!

[@bpisan]

Can you imagine California after 10 years of Mr Elder as Governor? Place would be poppin!

[@user-wg3kj7uy7f]

Zuby, spot on - about explaining further the 'why'. Very important. I wish someone would find all those full/er videos with Donald Trump that have been cut off to show a different view because some of us still have some issues with him even if we support republicans

[@anthonygermano9363]

He got my vote. Love This Man. California made a big mistake not giving Larry a chance.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

Zuby is on his way to be Larry.

[@anaguzman5191]

Zuby should be hired as the GOP's new PR person 🤣

[@wendellbabin6457]

52:20 Problem is the "Government" is the only "Industry" left in many towns.

[@4D2M0T]

Well in Australia my kids are growing up motherless, as she chose to leave many years ago on her narcissistic whim.

[@gloriathomas3245]

Except in most cases its the fathers who are abandoning both the kids and mothers.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

​@@gloriathomas3245 And how many are forced out because the mother wants them them gone and no fault divorce allows her to leave him with 3 words????

[@gloriathomas3245]

@@yetanotherspuart3993 the majority of fatherless kids are those born out of wedlock. It has nothing to do with divorce.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

@@gloriathomas3245 Yeah and woman have no responsibility so they can kick the father out and then demand childcare cheques even if the father wants to see the kids. But continue cnn shill

[@4D2M0T]

@@gloriathomas3245 in most case the father abandons both children and mother yes you are correct but my comment was about in my case where it was the mother who chose to leave because we have a child with downs syndrome and youngest autism non-verbal, she didn't want disabled kids infact she didn't want kids at all

[@DeanPrichRD]

Ita criminal that this video has less than 500 likes as of me writing this comment.

[@Antonio-kx5rd]

Awesome episode

[@Jiggy609]

Larry Elder🐐🐐🐐

[@ezraagyeman9340]

Larry elder and zuby are legends

[@rosemarievanlennep1866]

Im listening to form CT South Africa, I would like to remind everyone that in the world there is only one race and its the Human Race.

[@dvg4104]

Incorrect m'lady.

[@ba5140]

I would love for someone to explain logistically how school choice works. How can all students have the ability to choose their school. Wouldn't that over populate the "good" schools and in turn impact hoe good the school is.

[@gayeinggs5179]

There are so many black people. Who are so nice and educated. And. Personable. Why do we always. Hear about the rotten ones?

[@ericsimkins]

Love this convo. And btw, excellent endorsements!

[@RoberinoSERE]

I am convinced Larry could have been the best governor California ever had with his insights but Rome cant be saved when the people are so decadent.

[@ORagnar]

7:11 Arnold Schwarzenegger, a republican, was the California governor from 2003 to 2011. That's 13 years ago. 5/13/24, 12:32 p.m.

[@latinafortruth430]

I used to hate Donald Trump for a while and no longer do! There is hope.

[@UseLogicNotEmotion]

Two of the smartest men out there! Great conversation!

[@jeff-crankyxer1931]

Great interview! The problem with the political right is they are so culturally inept, and the left are masters at the PR game. I'm sure wherever he is Andrew Breitbart has been constantly screaming about needing to take back the culture. Finally we're starting to see some people getting a clue. It's still an uphill struggle but better late than never.

[@wendellbabin6457]

51:35 Have a chat with Michael Schellenberger.

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

29:20 It's not feelings it's Sin. Specifically Pride. People are so prideful they refuse to acknowledge when they're wrong. Taking God out of school was the greatest mistake the American people ever made.

[@jackdeniston6150]

Not Fatherlessness. It is active Father exclusion.

[@thetruth5098]

Exclusion or women refusing to put up with disrespect, cheating, not being responsible, not holding your own weight,abuse, etc etc etc etc. that's more what happens

[@AlNewkirk]

The fatherlessness problem is not complicated or expensive, you don’t need programs or volunteers. It’s simple. Make “abortion as birth control” illegal and abolish child support, then sit back and watch what happens. 🙃

[@ORagnar]

36:30 My primary concern with letting too many immigrants in at a time is that it can have bad consequences for our freedoms because most immigrants don't vote for freedom oriented ideas. Way too many don't appreciate or understand the foundation of America, i.e. individual rights. Let people in, but at some manageable rate to protect our freedoms. 5/13/24, 8:21 p.m.

[@isaiahramirez7095]

45% Hispanic statistic is pretty interesting

[@connerhuston2613]

Does he know what the Asian and India percentages who grow up without a father in the home? I am positive its low but just for reference.

[@kohort1]

Also the connecting the dots... The same goes for lefties... No one on the other side will connect the dots or they connected the dots but still fall on one idea or the other. Must people are in fact in the middle but we have to listen to all these loud voices on the ends saying extreme things. We've connected all the dots and maybe fall in left or right.

[@buntbar2438]

" once you hate Trump, there is nothing that is gonna make you unhate Trump" Not true. I hated Trump until 2016-17ish. But the smear campaigns made me kind of sympathize with him and look into what he did. I still don't like him, he's too rich to grandios for me. But I respect him a whole lot now.

[@colinjames7569]

To mentor means to teach. try. I am. Go raibthe maithe agat Zuby

[@user-wg3kj7uy7f]

What about that comment Donald Trump made about black people and living conditions and how he wouldn't be close to that .... I saw him saying that some years ago here on YT

[@jsonmedia]

Didn't Johnson also help move thousands of pounds of drugs, which is why she got so much time?

[@barryaaa5909]

Zuby the feel good argument is more for the voters, but the ones being elected it's just about power. If they can deceive and gain power then that's what it is. Not afraid of god or anything higher power, power is power.

[@WeOutcheaMane]

He ran for president but y’all didn’t vote

[@joncooper6387]

The moment Larry actually has a kid, is the moment anyone can consider his advice

[@mombasablue2584]

Volume...we cant hear any thing

[@marleyjanim5033]

I can hear

[@komradkookoo]

The volume button on your device is broken or something?!

[@eileenmabanag2500]

Zuby talked about a branding problem with the Republican party, and while I agree with the sentiment, I just don't think that's it. One side, the Democrats, blatantly lies, as Zuby was listing off the lies that Democrats say about the Republicans. No amount of branding will change opinion in that way, as these people who have been lied to would have to admit that they were fooled.

[@Inspiredkey.poetry]

I agree and disagree. Yes, the left is great at polluting the water with lies & people are usually reluctant to concede when they're wrong and reposition. However, Republicans often don't do well at ostentatiously disproving and counteracting those narratives and explaining their true belief system by connecting the dots like Zuby mentioned.

[@redpillras3456]

Larry needs some new material He been reading the exact same script for 30 years

[@javieredward777]

Larry would’ve still been well, governor in California. Gavin Newsom is destroying California by saying lies. Gavin Newsom works together with the Biden administration.

[@WeOutcheaMane]

Leave him alone these are big moments for him

[@redpillras3456]

@@WeOutcheaMane He’s beyond boring now

[@gregwright7527]

If Larry Elder is correct in what he say ,why Larry in not the governor OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, why didn't Larry receive 1% of voters to appear in the presidential debates, why do white middle-class voters NOT support Larry Elder, why do students from our major college and universities not support Larry Elder, why do students from our 108 HBCUS NOT SUPPORT LARRY ELDER,Why do independents not support Larry Elder, WHY THE BLACK COMMUNITY NOT SUPPORT LARRY ELDER ,WHY THE SPANISH COMMUNITY NOT SUPPORT LARRY ELDER, And most of all what about the white community not support Larry Elder enough of them that's needed ,ALL THESE GROUPS DONOT SEE THIS MAN AS A LEADER,HE'S KNOWN AS A RACE BAITER.

[@Royce88]

Sorry sir. Washington State is the most beautiful… CA. Is #2 the politics and homeless make them both ugly now…

[@gloriathomas3245]

We all can agree that fatherlessness is a problem however the real problem is the fathers who are abandoning both the mother and children. As for the immigration issue, as a man who is an immigrant and one that came to the US legally I'm disappointed that Zuby is buying to the false narrative around illegal immigration and its impacts on crime and employment. First off illegal immigrants do not take jobs from minorities and but instead are taking jobs minorities don't want to begin with. How many minorities do you honestly think want jobs in agriculture let alone construction, hardly any. As for the crime issue, native born individuals commit more crimes than illegals because there's no incentives for them to commit crimes because of the prospect of deportation and the illegal that do commit crime most like already have long history of criminal acts. I hate to throw my late brother under the bus, but he was example of a legal immigrant that got caught up in criminal activity.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

And how many men want to be in their kids lives but no fault divorce forces them out??? Keep lying cnn shill

[@FrostyDufour]

Illegal immigrants do push out citizens who are hourly workers. PMC types love to believe every issue reflects their own rarified experience, this is not one of them.

[@gloriathomas3245]

@@FrostyDufour show me evidence because it's presently already illegal to hire someone someone without a visa or green card

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

@@gloriathomas3245 Lying man hating nazis