ZWIFT Update 1.77 - Garage Sorting // In-Game Friend Notifications // Kickr BIKE Integration

[@iTribe-xn9qe]

Disappointed that Wahoo hasn't given any love to the original kickr bike. Wish they would also give us an update.

[@grobbosixtyone]

Shame that virtual gearing cannot be software controlled like IndieVelo does so all trainers can benefit

[@michaelrush208]

How is it that the most expensive of trainers are last to get any updates. I love my kickr bike, but this is just shameful on wahoo.

[@LeeBoris974]

Kind of mad about this after Wahoo sent me an email saying there was update to my bike (no mention of v1/2). I paid $4000 US 3 years ago for the thing and it apparently isn't getting updates anymore. I have to assume it's for technical reasons, despite the v2 seeming like a small update.

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@LeeBoris974]

@@kyleadammason I emailed support about it. The response: "...older model is unable to support the required protocol..."

[@Miekzz]

Those are some very welcome updates. Thank you Shane!

[@stephenbetley9596]

Amen for the bike switch option. Call it the Bike Shed. And the smoothing to the gradient was something I was going to log on the forum. Looks like a 1s smoothing with is fine. Good job.

[@benjaminnadjib]

waiting for you saying "oh, and the kickr v5 got virtual shifting after all" everytime I watch one of your videos...

[@BarrioBarranco1]

Sadly never gonna happen, I've even binned my box/packaging for my V5 cos if it packs in again it'll be off to the scrap yard with it....

[@thomaskingston2119]

Garage sorting is very welcome, but just wish we had garage archiving.

[@rongurney48]

Also wish we could sell back stuff we don't use

[@kyleadammason]

I thought sort would be more useful to be honest. Example: sort by most aero or the lightest products in a certain category. Take the guess work / research out of what item I should buy next. That way I can just sort and buy the most expensive item I can afford for the levels I have unlocked.

[@dinoaustralia7752]

Thankyou!!!! Finally we have the gears displayed for the smart bikes. About time. Unfortunate for the v1. Hopefully they will fix that soon.

[@davidrowe8747]

Apparently, not coming for V1 - forgot where I read that, possibly ZwiftInsider.

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@dinoaustralia7752]

@ that’s so bad. I understand your frustration. I have the kickr bike v2 and even that product still has many issues with it. It seems like their cheaper products get way more love and attention than their most expensive ones.

[@kevinrussellsmith7976]

it is really disappointing that Wahoo doesn't update the V1 Bike. Such an expensive bit of equipment that is meant to last years should not be left out, its bad customer support in this case.

[@Eirikkinserdal]

Yes and nearly identical to v2. Just not the directconnect thing 🫣

[@derx6666]

That might have something to do with the available space in the firmware. The Kickr core was also running into that limit for some features I remember. It's a bummer, but I don't think Wahoo can change that

[@Eirikkinserdal]

It's also weird that the kickr core can take the zwift cog while the v5 can't both those units was launched at the same time..

[@CycleXplorer]

That's rubbish

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@daved5244]

Hey Shane! Been asking Zwift for this through their forums, maybe you can put a request in. How difficult would it be to add a field to where it shows somewhere to other Zwifters as an option to show them how long you been a dang Zwifter, this would be helpful to show others how much one has accomplished in the time frame they been Zwifting! Thanks for all you do!

[@hbmedia4381]

I would like to see a garage loadout where you can save 4x slots to save you a particular bike setup with jersey and wheels. That you can pick and just ride. So slot 1 you have a hill setup Slot 2 racing 🏁 Slot 3 crit. Etc .

[@LouieBaLLz]

People have been asking for that for years. Zwift is just a lazy company that takes your money and never listens to what the community is asking for.

[@MrRegulation109]

One option that was removed a short while ago that I miss, was the ability to size the tiles on the Home screen. I use a 55in screen, I could see all the tiles I needed, now I have to scroll around.

[@gplama]

Agreed! I have a similar 4K setup that’s now a giant tablet.

[@MrRegulation109]

@@gplama It seemed an unecessary modification to make.

[@rasherdk]

I'll say it here as I've said elsewhere: Absolutely unforgivable to drop support for the KICKR Bike V1 at this point. This isn't a $200 smart watch. Something this expensive should be supported through the reasonable lifetime of the unit. Mine's still under warranty, even, and Wahoo is still selling refurb units. There's no valid excuse. This is putting Wahoo firmly on my "Do not do business with" list.

[@rongurney48]

Wahoo seems to have abandoned support for the Kickr V5 and Kickr Bike V1. No virtual shifting support for the former, no new firmware upgrade for the latter.

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the KICKR BIKE V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@chrisridesbicycles]

I‘m pretty happy about TP buying Indie Velo. I have TP anyway and I don‘t want to pay 20 bucks a month just for Zwift as my „interval player“ so a win for me.

[@spirro78]

Oh no why not the Kickr Bike v1?

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@kyleadammason]

RIP the Wahoo KICKR BIKE V1.. I asked Wahoo about getting this firmware update for the V1: "We have reviewed the hardware and firmware capabilities of KICKR BIKE V1 (2019). Unfortunately, this older model is unable to support the required protocol for expanded Zwift controls and will not be receiving a future update for this functionality." I asked what makes the V1 not compatible with the Zwift protocol and they said "I am unable to provide a more detailed technical explanation. However, I am happy to pass along your feedback to our product team for consideration. I apologize for any inconvenience." A little annoyed that V2 came out and then Wahoo stopped creating firmware updates for the V1 immediately. Very disappointed that Wahoo isn't supporting it anymore when they will release firmware for the original ELMENT computers from 2016 as recently as this month. Still love the bike and have no need to upgrade to a new one. I would love to see more videos on the lifespan of products. Many videos created at launch but less holding companies accountable for the e waste they create when they no longer support their creations.

[@JetMan0406]

I wish there were presets similar to rocket league. So you could have a climbing bike, speed bike, tt bike etc .

[@CycleXplorer]

Quick bike change would be cool mid ride. Especially in a race!

[@CycleXplorer]

Maybe you could have like 2 bike changes per race. Make it tactical as to if and when you use it!

[@dh7314]

I only need the lightweight meilenstein. And maybe disc about twice a year, I’d love to be able to archive all the irrelevant kit and frames.

[@guillaumethivierge6661]

No update for V1 bike is a complete joke. Such an expensive piece of equipment should have updates for at least 7-10 years

[@kyleadammason]

Agreed. There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.

[@BrewsGamesRides]

No more wahoo products for me, kickr 18 fails and replacements, tickr fails less than a year due to sweat, now they won't update my V1 bike. No more of my money.

[@kyleadammason]

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates. Why spend more money with Wahoo if they won't bring firmware updates to their most expensive product line.

[@Maarschel]

The update of the Kickr Bike is super cool. Sadly, at the moment, you cannot connect to the bike controller and the Zwift Play controllers simultaneously (which was possible before).

[@Nothling88]

Yay! Finally garage sorting!

[@COYSMike]

Looks like we have a new Wahoo gps coming 5 december. Have you had any hands on yet?

[@gplama]

No. I just hope like hell they don't drop a DURA on us.

[@frogspotter7445]

What we do know though is that it likely won’t be supported after a few years like the Kickr v5 or Kickr Bike 1. Buyer beware.

[@BarrioBarranco1]

So indieVelo is no longer free and paired with Training Peaks? Good I can dump iV off my PC now, makes my decision to stay with Zwift that much easier...

[@gplama]

Still free for the next few months.

[@derx6666]

IndieVelo was never intended to be free for ever, and George was quite transparent about that. He stated that it would be free during the Beta period, but after that things might change. In the end, George has to be paid for his work too, and nothing is ever free. On social media you pay with your data, on most websites you pay with data and ads. Others use a subscription. If you pay annually for TP, it's "only" 10 bucks per month, and a lot cheaper than Zwift. I'm probably still stay on Zwift, but I'll keep an eye out. The performance verification on IndieVelo is top notch, and especially for eRacing you'll have a lot less cheaters that way.

[@brianwhite9]

If you pay for the year it equates to 10 dollars a month. Which is half the cost of Zwift. So you get the Training Peaks data magic and indieVelo, not free but still extremely cheap in the scheme of virtual riding

[@BarrioBarranco1]

@@gplama Fair point, I was an RGT orphan with 12 months free Zwift and iV was my Plan B if I didn't like Zwift(I used iV for 3 weeks after RGT)... now that I've grown to like Zwift I won't go back to iV now... (If they introduced "Magic Roads" I'd reconsider that though!)....

[@BarrioBarranco1]

@@brianwhite9 Yep, probably a great deal if you are happy with an utilise both. For me TP has no value, and indoor training is a way of getting through the "dead zone" of the next 4-5 months here in the Scottish Highlands. So I'll only be paying a Zwift subscription for those months anyway. (If somehow I need to do some indoors beyond that I'll give the free UAE one a shot lol.... Still haven't tried Rouvy and yet something tells me it might be more suited to what I actually need...)

[@jpquezox]

Hopefully they can give some use for the buttons on the Stages bike.. do you think that would ever happen?

[@gplama]

Unlikely. Stages no longer exists as a company. Giant acquired the majority of it not long ago. Where that leaves existing products is unknown.

[@rhysrunsriot]

I hope Wahoo have updated the firmware to measure power accurately as it has led to several elite eracers being DQ'd by Zwift by no fault of their own.

[@RhettCrowell]

Question: how do I return a "ride on" to the person who gave me one when I can not find them on the list on the lower right corner of the screen?

[@scatt1502]

Kind of makes you wonder how long they will offer support to the new kickr run V1 they are releasing before it is orphaned.

[@gplama]

Oh man, you've just killed it only weeks after it was born! 🤣

[@bencopsey]

At least on kickr bike it seemed to auto follow a more apex oriented path through curves vs sitting in one spot in the lane.

[@maartends6051]

have you already reviewed the decathlon d100?

[@gplama]

Not yet. Unboxing one today.

[@grobbosixtyone]

Braking in companion app please

[@n8torious309]

I have a custom workout built for selecting off-schedule world routes that's just 5 minutes of free ride

[@DontGetDroppedCycling]

I was curious about the % and then I realized I literally have a library of Zwift versions uploaded since 2020... WILD! So I went back a few weeks to look at one of my race videos 🤣

[@gplama]

Was it first tipped over in 1.76?

[@DontGetDroppedCycling]

@ I’d have to do more investigating for that 🤪

[@derx6666]

@@gplama Can confirm: this was already changed on Oct. 24th

[@__marshie]

Where’s the updated ingame map they promised? Hopefully soon.

[@cyrilnobody2064]

+1 i m' waiting too !

[@KayR-r7t]

How can I get that sweet wolf power jersey?

[@RuffRides]

I have noticed that free world drafting of riders that are doing a workout seems to have changed, it seemed to be moving me out and away from the rider instead of on their wheel (neither using steering). Has anyone else noticed anything?

[@tarajones-legros3661]

I never understood the purpose of the “percent” symbol to begin with. All we need is the number and then the units.

[@lukevirtualgameruk3523]

They need to fix the apple watch disconnecting its so annoying when someone calls then you can't connect again and your heart rate just sticks to what ever it was.

[@stefanivanov8587]

Shimano catching strays lol

[@altern8tive]

I don't want to sort, I want to sell .. forever hoping :)

Any signs of getting the Zwift ride shipping with the cog v2 here in Australia?

[@gplama]

Only the Ride/Core combo at this point. No info on any other options here unfortunately.

@ thanks for the info.

[@percyveer2355]

i see they havent update the zwift racing score algorithm.

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Can you turn climbing HUD off? I dont like it popping up and out. Too much on screen as well. -One of the few who like no HUD

[@gplama]

Nope. Not yet. Hopefully they’ll add a config option for it.

[@jwiffle19]

How did you get Zwift beta jersey? I've been on since beta days and don't have that one

[@rhysrunsriot]

I was on since the beta and got the jersey automatically.

[@Craigo5000]

Steering for Wattbike atom? Oh.... It's only been about 6 years waiting now

[@gplama]

Highly unlikely.

[@Craigo5000]

Its a supported bike and Wattbike apparently signed 'a steering contract' for Zwift according to Zwift support who I spoke with directly. They said it was coming soon. 2 years ago! ​@@gplama

[@LastLamplighter]

That's would be cool, finally make use of those top buttons. We can but hope.

[@99cya]

can i switch the route while being in a workout? lets say I have a long workout and i have finished a route, is it possible to start a new route without losing the workout progress? that way i could complete multiple routes.

[@thriftest]

Nope😢

[@99cya]

@@thriftest oh too bad. i had hopes to complete a couple of shorter routes. but thanks 🙂

[@thriftest]

@99cya you can do multiple workouts on the same route. But not multiple routes on the same workout.

[@Zylas_DJ]

Are you faster with better gear in Races?

[@gplama]

The equipment has a small influence on speed.

[@melwolfs7850]

Since this update my zwift is massive lagging.... I'm riding the zwift ride. Anybody has an idea how to fix this? Greetz

[@jefferyfey]

How can I get a gplama jersey?

[@gplama]

There is no GPLama jersey. The Chicks Who Ride Bikes jersey has llamas on it (which may be alpacas).

[@MrRegulation109]

My Zwift Wishlist. I have watched Zwift racing via KZbin recently. Why can't I be a spectator in the App? If there is a race I want to view, I should be able to select it, and select how I watch it, e.g. Helicopter shot or select a rider in the race to view. Zwift could even create a Spectator User Account for none Zwift members, this may lead to new full users.

[@brianwhite9]

If it is a non race pass race, log in to the game, enter the pen and then watch the riders. That is about the only way currently to watch a race unless you can find someone streaming the race

[@jMike05]

Long hair on the avatar eh?

[@philiptarry702]

I hate that big-head visual so much

[@Raymond-Farts]

Zwift needs to update their pricing by lowering it. BCOOL is better and cheaper. People need to start jumping ship.

[@MrRegulation109]

Pssst, I watched DCRs video, has he been made homeless?

[@gplama]

😂😂

[@SnideArt]

I think zwift should be way more customizable, imagine changing groupsets, rotors, bars and more colour options/graphics. More like other video games. (forza for instance)

[@MattSwain1]

Why? A lot of development time for no real gain. There’s one hundred different things they should do before they get that detailed!

[@SnideArt]

Why not? The bike garage is crap. Im just saying its pretty basic up to video games, cyclists like to customise their stuff. Yes zwift has lots to improve

[@jakobjas4212]

I think that would be amazing. Difficult though with licensing I'd imagine. Would have to negotiate with Shimano, Sram, Deda etc.

[@jeffduncan9347]

#PelotonSux

[@jaredstrauss617]

Total BS move from Wahoo on the V1 Kickr Bike

[@kyleadammason]

There hasn't been a firmware update for the V1 since the launch of the V2. Meanwhile the 2016 version of the ELEMNT computer got a software update as recently as this month.. Leaving the early supporters of the v1 bike that costs 10x the amount of the bike computers with no updates.