ZWILLING ENFINIGY vs TECHNIVORM MOCCAMASTER | Surprising Results! | Comparison 2022!

[@End0rphin]

I’m actually between those two right now. It’s noticeable that you seemed biased at first but seeing you changing your mind a little bit about the Zwilling one count as a positive to me.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

You are correct. I still would choose Moccamaster based on where it was built and longevity but for the money the Zwilling makes a great pot of coffee!

[@John-zf2ph]

I was looking for an upgrade from my black and decker of 7 years and did a lot of research. I wanted something under $100 but then I started looking into SCA. Well the Zwilling was cheapest certified. I looked online and right now the brewer is %25 off. If you sign up for email or look up coupon codes you get an additional 15% off. Therefore I bought it because I got 40% off for a total of $127.49 compared to normal price of about $200. I think this is a great deal for the price of an SCA certified brewer. We will see it's reliability and functionality but I am super excited!

[@John-zf2ph]

Update - Best damn coffee I have had in years as far as home drip. Great coffee maker. Easy to maintain. Hot and delicious. I am absolutely impressed and satisfied with the purchase. So worth the purchase!!!

[@jertexjertex7880]

I bought the Zwilling based on this video, and compared it to my Cuisinart. I used the same amount of water to the oz (I ignore "cups" and go by actual number of oz when making coffee), and the same amount of freshly ground coffee beans using my burr grinder. There was an ever-so-slightly discernible difference, the first pot I didn't notice that much difference but I'm now noticing a pretty significant difference in smoothness. The Zwilling makes a much more flavorful, smooth cup of coffee, I'm now starting to change my tune and I think I can justify 3 times the price for the Zwilling. The biggest drawback of the Zwilling, for me, is that the warming pad on the Zwilling shuts off after about 30 minutes. I read the instructions thoroughly and couldn't find any way to change this setting. I know you're not supposed to keep coffee on the burner, but if it's going to shut off so quickly, they should at least provide a thermal carafe. I'm enjoying the coffee enough that I just ordered a thermal carafe to pour the coffee into after it brews. If that keeps the coffee hot, I'm going to keep the Zwilling. If not, I'm going to keep looking and maybe look at a Breville.

[@xenom0rpheee]

Zwilling is $150 in my country and Moccamaster is $400 so Zwilling is no brainer for me. Thanks for the review.

[@joemacias2360]

The Zwilling took longer but it brewed 12 ounces more, and was the bloom feature turned on? Also how much ground coffee was used in each brew?

[@dphillips]

Just found out about the Zwilling today while browsing SCA brewers. I was looking for one at $200 or less before tax, so this is basically perfect. Unless I get my Mugsy before I get ready to pull the trigger, because that should hopefully be the ultimate pour over machine. Thanks for your comparison!

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

Love the Zwilling. Makes great coffee. Very similar to the Cafe Specialty, also SCA approved, but has more programable features and is priced a little more. They are worthy contenders against the Technivorm. But the biggest bang for the buck is the OXO 8 cup. SCA approved, thermal carafe and makes great coffee in large AND small batches, can drip directly into a cup and has a descaling indicator. It even has a single cup feature, all for around $200. Technivorm is great, but their carafes are not well made and I don't find the quality any better or worse than other SCA machines, which means the high price is not justified.

[@drunkenek]

Hey great comment

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

@@drunkenek Bonavita is also excellent, but not as versatile. The 8 Cup One Touch won't make the best small batches, although very good. For small batches buy Bonavita's 5 Cup One Touch for around $150. Bar none the best small coffee maker with the best tasting coffee. It takes little counter space, has a minimum design, sturdy thermal carafe and is simple to use. I have not tried Bonavita's newer upscale Enthusiast model. It is likewise SCA approved and supposedly makes the best coffee of any machine on the market. It's pricey, but not as bad as the Ratio, Technivorm or Breville.

[@gorgonzolariggs7710]

Really helped, and great review! Thanks 👍🏻

[@tlevesque51]

Excellent review. Answered the questions I had regarding comparing this machine to a Moccamaster. Thank you.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Glad it was helpful!

[@chrissmith2963]

Good video! So a me achine can still get certification even if it brews slowly? Temperature is more important apparently.

[@flynnlarson8694]

Does zwilling offer replacement parts in the same way technivorm does?

[@Microtic]

From everything I've researched, no. Pretty unfortunate.

[@lucyboyd1120]

So this has changed and they do offer some replacement parts!

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

YES they do, but chances are you won't need them the way you do for technivorm.

[@marjoriecohn3868]

I want a Moccamaster. I had one once but was only allowed to drink decaf so I didn't like it and returned it. And I did grind my beans with a conical burr. I wish I could drink regular coffee. Maybe i will try again with a different decaf. Or maybe I'll just get a Breville Impress and make decaf cappuccinos. Decisions decisions.

[@yanhuaqi4735]

If the drop is plastic? How about the hot water tub way ? What materials?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Hot water in the Moccamaster is heated in a copper boiler

[@lilalagomasino3042]

Can I brew any size on the zwilling? I only need 4 cups for daily use unless we have company

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Yes.

[@crystalpincente3688]

Do both of them steam a lot when brewing? Looking for a machine to go under cabinets

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Not really but to pour water in you will likely have to pull the machine out anyway

[@ritagreen6750]

I do not understand how a coffee guy doesn't think to brew the right amount of coffee in a 12 cup vs the 10 cup 😂 rematch!!!

[@bayjingles8091]

Hi. I live in Turkey. Moccamaster is currently 18,000 TRY. Zwilling is 4,000 TRY. Moccamaster is 4.5 times more expensive. There is a huge price difference. Sometimes I see a sale and Moccamaster is 10,000 TRY. But even when it is on sale, it is 2.5 times more expensive. Now here is the real problem. Is the difference in taste directly proportional to the price difference? Does Moccamaster make coffee four times more delicious? Should I really pay this difference? Zwilling is surprisingly affordable and cheap. I am just an average consumer who likes to drink coffee. I am not a professional. So should I still buy Moccamaster? Or is it an unnecessary expense for me?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

The moccamaster is fantastic, but it goes beyond just flavour... 5 year warranty, handmade in the Netherlands, they are built to last! Zwilling is still a great option that makes amazing coffee !

[@adena65]

You would have to pry the Moccamaster out of my cold dead hands. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Me too! But for the price point I was surprised:)

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

Can be arranged, especially since there are machines as good if not better that are considerably less expensive.

[@MisterChris1978]

Technovorm Moccamaster 10cup - $339, ZWILLING Enfinigy 12cup - $199

[@larsthorwald3338]

Made in China vs made in Holland...all I needed to know. Thanks. I'm sure I'll enjoy my new Moccamaster.

[@larsthorwald3338]

UPDATE: it's wonderful.

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

$400 versus $200, but taste the same... all I need to know. Thanks. I'm sure I'll enjoy my new Zwilling. Not to mention it's programable and can do far more than any technivorm.

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

Update: it's wonderful and my bank account has an additional $200 in it

[@MartenFerret]

Are you a spokesperson for the Zwilling? I bought a Zwilling, but now I feel bad about it because I'm being told it's cheap.@@Meyerc-yv2bi

[@filegrabber1]

@Meyerc-yv2bi Until it breaks down. The Moccamaster is more durable, it's a machine for life really. 5 year guarantee and spare parts are available for decades.

[@OlsenTheWonderDog]

The Zwilling seemed complicated to use…I prefer simple machines.

[@raze2400]

Had it for a year, it's not it's complicated

[@lilalagomasino3042]

Is the water reservoir removable?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

No it is not

[@Mzedith]

German Company made in China? How was the temp comparison? (note: I have 2 Moccamaster for many years,)

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Temp was on Par...but stick with Moccamaster:)

[@catbomber40]

Technivorm is the way all day

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

Providing you like throwing money away. Finish the poem.

[@walter.bellini]

That chip on your shoulder and the owner of the company bit is so silly, takes away from the video, frankly. The bottom line is that Technivorm is a stable in the coffee industry but still needs to include more modern offerings so that people who do care about being able to set brewing for the morning can. Not everyone needs to have 100% SCA perfect coffee in every cup; they just want a great-tasting coffee in their cup.

[@scotts6955]

Should have did a blind taste test

[@Hiux4bcs]

Can grind Spices ?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

nope

[@freeridermx2502001]

4oz coffee in 10 cups is going to be different than 4oz of coffee in 12 cups.

[@hanskuijsten2380]

Why would both use European size cups 🤔... Ah! ☝🏻😃 They're both European brands!!!!

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Weird though....even brands from North America do this too!

[@mandomrix]

@@ecscoffeeinc when measuring coffee, are we meant to follow European size cups instead? (is there a different ideal ratio?)

[@Meyerc-yv2bi]

Industry standard uses European measurements.

[@OlsenTheWonderDog]

@@Meyerc-yv2biAnd yet Americans consume more coffee than Europeans and we use larger cups, so why would the industry standard be based on the European preferences?

[@RyanBinghamNo7]

Zwilling is a German Brand. F&E is German!