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@MrAdam921 3 күн бұрын
This video is brought to you by LVMH 😂
@vinnyfranciswatches 3 күн бұрын
haha good point!😂
@santorini8423 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for shipping the hand sculptures mate👍 also just had a call from AD, been offered the Bruce Wayne on jubilee , worth buying? Gotta go in tomoz
@vinnyfranciswatches 4 күн бұрын
No problem, hope the recipients enjoy them! And wow congrats, in terms of our flip or pass question then from our perspective it would be flip opportunity, i.e. a dealer would potentially pay slightly more than retail in the Uk, around £10-10.5k right now
@santorini8423 4 күн бұрын
👍
@drbobsnightmare2521 5 күн бұрын
hi Vinny 👋 🥇 first
@vinnyfranciswatches 4 күн бұрын
Hey there! happy new year mate
@tomwalker9836 6 күн бұрын
What are you wearing Vinny?
@vinnyfranciswatches 6 күн бұрын
Hi Tom, that’s a San Martin with fume blue dial, great daily beater watch housing a Sellitta auto movement 👌
@tiempodesobrahn 7 күн бұрын
Nice vid vinny appreciate your content, however do allow me to share some more insights as a watch fan since 2017 NOT an expert which differ a bit from your conclusions. Bear with me please. In my view, the current values of the cartier santos from the 90s have nothing to do with square watches, and even less with that ugly and ridiculous patek cubitus. This coming from me as owner of an original cartier santos 2 tone which I gifted myself brand new in 1997 for my 37th birthday and now have passed on to my daughter. At the time I paid US$2800 which was almost the same price as a Rolex Submariner. Nothing puts a smile on my face better than knowing that I did make a good decision on the santos according to current values but these don't compare to the values on the submariners of the same years. At the time I knew nothing about watches, I was a young up and coming oil company employee and I wanted a more luxurious and dressy piece that I could afford. I liked the fashion and prestige of Cartier at the time and the santos was an aspiring choice. This purpose and need drove my decision rather than market knowledge, as I feel would be the same case for many people nowadays otherwise I'd be wearing the submariner today and enjoying it too... no more business meetings. Please do bear in mind that I have a 7 inch wrist and never perceived the santos as a small watch, Actually I liked the size as I would wear long sleeve shirts and jackets due to my line of work. This I believe is the heavier decision driver for most people then and now... what you need for your life style and what you can afford that reflect your status! Today is the larger and sportier watches which dominate the market and trends but who knows what's next! I believe the real reason the santos went up in price is because there are so few available now not because of their popularity. I have become a watch fan now and have seen watch prices increase since 2017 in unexpected ways, particularly driven by the growth of the secondary and grey market so I have been particularly interested in following up my collection. I also believe (call me a conspiracy theorist) that someone purposely snatched most of the used cartier santos from the 90´s (which are the ones to have in my view) in the last 3 years. This led me to conclude that some VP in that company we all know had something to do with it as their new and much larger and sterile santos revival collection was dragging in the market... thanks for getting this far.
@vinnyfranciswatches 6 күн бұрын
Hi thanks for sharing your story and that is fascinating to read. I think it’s too early to read into any of the market sales data as being symptomatic of the Cubitus release however I am certainly seeing demand/consumer interest in the Santos spiking somewhat and yes as you say that’s partly due to the scarcity of the older and cheaper versions but also it’s brand cache and versatility for casual and business like you mentioned…not sure about your conspiracy theory though 😂
@vincet6730 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video! In 2025 I go boring… I go with Rolex… 🙊🙊🙊
@vinnyfranciswatches 7 күн бұрын
Have fun! that’s the same for me too, an explorer 2 polar dial is on my list for 2025😬
@jojoshikari 7 күн бұрын
Very surprising results. What's your thoughts on the latest Santos Vinny, and do you expect it to retain its value or better over the next 5 years? (Medium & Large models)
@PeterR1chard 8 күн бұрын
The Apple trend.
@rayrahim1987 8 күн бұрын
This guy needs to say "cheerio!" At the end of each video
@vinnyfranciswatches 8 күн бұрын
Haha agreed! i like that idea
@YNton934 9 күн бұрын
Repeat after me "Watches are not investment"
@vinnyfranciswatches 9 күн бұрын
“watches are not investment, unless you bought any of these 25 watches used 5 years ago”
@alansmith4395 7 күн бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatches thats blind luck, not investing
@vinnyfranciswatches 7 күн бұрын
sure, it’s not prudent investing at all, given the unknown lottery risk, in hindsight though they were great ‘investments’. This is only an analysis of historical data, not future advice, except from my assertion that interest in square style watches is indeed growing.
@etebol 6 күн бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatches motivating people to continue “investing” in watches is distasteful man. If you wanna safeguard your money or make it grow, buy gold bullion bars and stop efin up the hobbie.
@vinnyfranciswatches 6 күн бұрын
@ it’s a relaxed video chatting about FACTUAL historical data, relax for goodness sake
@micahtyler8415 9 күн бұрын
I think what you mean to say is the MSRP of these certain models of certain brands has appreciated over the last 5 years and the grey market still bears at least list or more.
@vinnyfranciswatches 9 күн бұрын
no its more simple than that but my apologies if i did now make it clear enough; this is average used prices 5 years ago v average used prices now
@gaffs82 9 күн бұрын
Good points Vinny. The issue with these doom merchants is that they provide no context. You said it within a minute. It was a bubble. A once in a generation set of circumstances that make people desire watches at a time when supply was short and people had money but nothing to spend on because of Covid. The market is getting back to normal and that is just fine. But of course these KZbinrs need their clicks and need to say the whole market is in the gutter. If that is the case, where is my below retail 6 digit GMT, Sub or even DJ?
@tonygu2958 9 күн бұрын
What happened to the Rolex sky dweller with a jubilee bracelet, two tone? She has a lot of character, just like the gmt2 rootbeer except she has a oyster bracelet. I am always asked if I wish to sell these at a AD. Of course I always decline the offerings, as they are hard to find if I wish to replace them, go figure. 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤🎉
@BAF605 9 күн бұрын
Great stuff Vinny. A demonstration if one were needed that the investment side of this game is a bit of a lottery. I have an embarrassingly large collection, with some hits with both lower and higher priced watches. Funnily enough I own the two Rolex Datejusts you mention, the exact model in 36 with blue dial, and with white Romans in the 41. I got them both at retail and I did ask for them both from my AD. Smart investor eh?? No...... I just liked them. A lesson for us all maybe.😊 I think you are right about square/rectangular watches and though both Cartier and Reversos have become more expensive they were a relatively easy pick up not so long ago.
@frankm4129 9 күн бұрын
Cartier give me a break Rolex Rolex Rolex
@frankm4129 9 күн бұрын
You kidding me both Watches that you’re showing I have no interest at all for me. Give me a vintage Rolex your talking
@frankm4129 9 күн бұрын
I’ll keep my Rolex Best watch to own
@JinxPalm2023 9 күн бұрын
Yes, Ive lost about $27,000, but it's just part of purchasing luxury goods (the luxury tax)...im still happy with my watches though 😅
@vinnyfranciswatches 6 күн бұрын
@@JinxPalm2023 Damn, i think many sadly share your pain…the beautiful thing though is that you’re still here loving the hobby!
@ultimatedouchebag6760 9 күн бұрын
what idiot buys an overpriced watch that are in production?
@vietho9145 10 күн бұрын
I think the pricing/appreciation on the Vacheron is a bit off. Just did some research and when it released it was priced around $20k USD and yes trading around $25k USD now on the secondary market, or at about retail. Also surprised the Panda Daytona isn't on the list as you can find it trading 2x retail on the secondary market, or a touch under.
@vinnyfranciswatches 9 күн бұрын
Yes but this is a comparison with 5 years ago, the Daytona was already heavily hyped in 2020
@leemarshall3649 10 күн бұрын
Inflation adjusted or not? UK cumulative inflation for the last 5 years is 25%
@vinnyfranciswatches 10 күн бұрын
no and very true point! Though every watch far exceeds that on this list, to be fair luxury specific inflation cumulatively speaking is much more than 25pc though
@davidbrown9947 10 күн бұрын
Great video
@vinnyfranciswatches 10 күн бұрын
Thanks! happy new year mate
@davidbrown9947 10 күн бұрын
Great video. Prices for Rolexes, certainly continue to fall on the grey market. Inventory is aplenty . However, still so money asking for Covid money. They ned to wipe their mouths, and move on.
@WatchesOnWood 10 күн бұрын
Is that a CW 12 on your wrist?
@WestCoastAce27 10 күн бұрын
Great list. That Santos with the gold screws is 🔥. But I still don’t understand how the panda Daytona didn’t make it. At least here in the States a 2019 model is over 100% up. Unless actual verified sale prices are much lower than some sites claim.
@vinnyfranciswatches 10 күн бұрын
Sure you’d imagine that and perhaps the Pepsi too but remember they were already highly hyped 5 years ago, happy new year
@WestCoastAce27 10 күн бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatchesI may have misunderstood the assignment; I was thinking I bought a Panda at retail in 19, % gain if I wanted to sell today. I actually prefer the previous variant w/o the ring around the bezel.
@matthewdadson7598 10 күн бұрын
Great video as always. Keep it up Vinny.
@vinnyfranciswatches 10 күн бұрын
Appreciate it Matthew! thanks for stopping by and happy new year
@matthewdadson7598 10 күн бұрын
@vinnyfranciswatches You too mate. Looking forward to another exciting year.
@okidoki2952 10 күн бұрын
Constantan or tin
@vinnyfranciswatches 10 күн бұрын
ask someone french🤷♂️
@krugmeup2162 9 күн бұрын
Tan
@dacphotography 13 күн бұрын
Hay Vinny, can you tell us what happened to Digital Watch Vault scheme, as the co founder Paul Thorpe has not yet addressed the issue maybe you have some information to help reassure people their personal details are safe
@davesrc_crawling8349 14 күн бұрын
The Digital Watch Vault site got taken down today without warning. Seems very suspect considering the hype.
@vinnyfranciswatches 14 күн бұрын
no surprises there then, pretty much exactly as predicted
@vsdiamonds8534 14 күн бұрын
Much more important in my opinion is that rolex will refuse to service the watch and will claim in the connected statement that the watch is "fake" even if all parts are original Rolex Parts
@EliborioAsiamah 24 күн бұрын
Love MAMACOO watch， Such a great looking watch to match with the precisionist movement.
@skatonio 28 күн бұрын
Again, brother, your channel is growing way too slow because you only post a couple times a month at best. Should be one video per day.
@AlichaMier 28 күн бұрын
Watches are so delicate and intricately designed, so I have intense respect and admiration for MAMACOO watch makers
@baniconeocleous5837 29 күн бұрын
I think that we need brilliant business people to run the country and not politicians,,I heard that kier starter is a business man,I think if he runs his business like he runs the country then he would go bankrupt.
@FXSTB-i 29 күн бұрын
Got my 'call' the last day. Knocked it back. Wasn't even the watch I was on the list for. Rolex have pissed too many people off
@vinnyfranciswatches 29 күн бұрын
haha typical , was it two tone or solid gold by any chance? many ‘calls coming in for those i hear, just be patient, the call will come, or try another AD, best of luck!
@FXSTB-i 29 күн бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatches It was a two tone GMT. On a jubilee. Wasn't for me. Probably offered it to someone else and they didn't want it.
@sgt10p Ай бұрын
Stick to watches Vinny, I doubt your credibility in politics is high
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
economics…first class finance degree and accredited accountancy levels at ACA and CIMA. With respect, working hard for such qualifications has provided me with adequate knowledge enough to link the theory with real-world application
@GrahamTWC Ай бұрын
Won’t anybody think of the flippers and grey market dealers, the ones who inserted themselves between the retailer and consumer and gouged a huge profit?
@WatchesOnWood Ай бұрын
during economic down turn, that has always been an opportunity for me to buy up things i can afford and will enjoy. And then perhaps when the economy improves, i'm tempted to sell them on. I may not have made any money but i wouldnt have lost any either
@davidbrown9947 Ай бұрын
Great reasoned video Vinny
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
Cheers david hope you’re well and merry christmas to you and family mate
@barracuda008l4 Ай бұрын
Infantile analysis by an economic ignorant... factually these corrupt socialist Liebour government is the worst for investing in anything from watches to cars.... but wathes is a GLOBAL MARKET the crash i the UK will make American or Japanese to buy cheap rolex in the UK after the crash in the UK economy
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
fair enough, I look forward to hearing your less ignorant opinion and analysis on your channel
@garywynne8122 Ай бұрын
Politics for you Vinny
@davidcrawford8583 Ай бұрын
Maybe you can take Rachel from accounts' position with any luck.
@chrisdrake331 Ай бұрын
Vinny have I just WATCHED a party political broadcast n behalf of the WATCH industry 😂😂 merry x mas mate 🎄
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
Haha Merry Christmas to you and your family, thanks for watching mate
@FebyWang Ай бұрын
Definitely the most interesting & informative channel in KZbin，and I am your fan！ I’ve been watching MAMACOO and buying them recently to complement my watch collection. Good video
@HonestWatchChannel Ай бұрын
"hope" "change" obama. lol. uk & canada = shithole country.
@WestCoastAce27 Ай бұрын
No lies detected. A rough few years headed your way. Vinny, if you haven’t already, you should look to internationalize your business. Perhaps a US partner? Rolex prices have stabilized here and Trump will certainly spin up our economy. That coupled with Bitcoin/crypto rallies mean more spending on luxuries. PS - Chisholm Hunter just copied your ‘Rolexes under retail’ video.
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
yes probably, It looks like business is much easier over the pond, perhaps because it’s a much larger market 300 million v 60 million and your accountancy rules are far more relaxed and income based v asset focused as with our IFRS laws we have to comply with And yes, this channel was the first to talk about trade prices and now everyone’s also doing a ‘flip or pass’ video, that’s youtube i guess. Thanks for watching
@willburrows8834 29 күн бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatches the tax rates in the US in Florida and Texas, for example, are around 30% for earners over 500k p/a, over here they more or less take 50% from high earners. People have a lot more disposable income over there as a result and will spend more on luxury items. In the UK we just exist to provide for the public sector and the millions who don’t want to work.
@Lord_Whiteley Ай бұрын
Well it looks like we are heading for recession - hardly a surprise 😮
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
only just come out of one too😂
@Vusseyv881 Ай бұрын
Mate I’ve got a few quid, I’ve not bought anything of any extravagance in the last 3 months. Pulled my horns in massively
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
yes this is what i mean by communication! there are many people ready to spend but they’re not stupid, if the mood from the government is nothing but gloom then even those who can afford to spend switch to saving. The messaging matters and that’s why so many businesses are holding back
@BAF605 Ай бұрын
It could all turn round for the better but I think it's a case of buckle up for the next four and a half years. Does anybody out there consider this government to have made even a reasonable start??
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
possibly, economically at least and yes i don’t you’ll find anyone who would admit it’s a reasonable start. On other issues beyond the economy, perhaps house building initiative i something we all agree that the country needed so that’s one thing
@BAF605 Ай бұрын
@@vinnyfranciswatches I agree about the house building initiative, but so far that's only a good intention. Even if they build 1.5 million homes unless immigration numbers are brought down those houses wouldn't accommodate even those who arrived in the last two years of the previous administration. We're in a mess!!
@frankbrennan1619 Ай бұрын
Most sadly ALL we're going to get for the next four & a half years is ONLY even more low growth, even more low productivity, even more Government borrowing, even more higher taxation, even more mass uncontrolled & mass unskilled immigration, even worse public services & even more foodbanks & such like & so whoever wins the next General Election in July 2029 is either just simply going to continue this massive ongoing decline of the economy or just maybe & it's a huge big maybe, we actually get a Government who have the cojones & know how to start to turn it all around slowly but if not....
@paulbrennan552 Ай бұрын
So your comparing 6 months of labour, compared to 14 years of tory.....eejit...
@vinnyfranciswatches Ай бұрын
no? i’m reviewing the 6 months, not making any comparisons. By the way, I voted for Change too