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What would happen in the hypothetical case that I had a metalseadramon and my opponent had Takemi who established that his turn ends when my side's memory is at three or more. Could he attack me?

I got two boxes. Biggest pulls were all three arts of Gallantmon x and alt art of Close. I was pretty happy for my first digimon box purchase.

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Ok, super nutty idea, but give me royal base Field Spell, all it does is moves from the bottom of Security to the top, and when it Checked it plays out all face-up royal base digimon in the Security on to the field

Suggestion, 'Chessmon'.

got 1 box... almost identical to your second box, only hit difference was the barba was a callis instead lol

I’m a minute and a half in and I wanted to chime in that I got a box with the bottom line of supers but my sixth was piedmon ace. Just to put it out there that the sixth slot can be potentially from the other set of supers if that matters to people.

I just want Justimon to pick an identity and build off it, instead it became a worse Sakuyamon after being a worse green tamer deck. I also hate that the only way people seem to build the new Justimon, is by slapping Mother/Shoto and MedievalGallantmons in it. No longer a Justimon deck to me at that point.

Does this work with kendogarurmon or just burning?

If we're going to let them play with their Security, then we might as well make that their mechanic. Something similar to when a child with a stick disturbs a Honeycomb Security Effects that not only benefit your Digimon, but also can harm your opponent: [Security] Suspend a Digimon and then play this Digimon after the Battle [Security] DeDigivolve a Digimon and then play this Digimon after the Battle [Security] Suspend all your Opponent's Digimon and then play this Digimon after the Battle [Security] For the Turn, all your Digimon with [Royal Base] gain <Blocker> and then play this Digimon after the Battle [Security] 1 of your opponent's Digimon can't activate [When Digivolving] effects or [All Turns] effects until the end of your turn and then play this Digimon after the Battle That way, QueenBeemon BT19 could alternate with her effects: reinforcing her Security Effects with her [All Turns] or modifying her Security with her [When Attacking] This also puts the Opponent in a dangerous situation, because if he wants to lower their Security, he would be in danger of ruining his momentum if he is too greedy

Queenbeemon would be a lot more useful. If they had just simply made the when attacking effect also a when digivolving effect.

I've been playing Black base HeavyLeomon for a few weeks now. For level 5s I play EX5 and BT20 LoaderLeomon along with Supreme Connection which lets me cheat out the latter for only 3 Memory. I love combining this with Altea since he's a Memory setter that lets me start with the minimum necessary Memory to hardplay the previously mentioned LoaderLeomon to digivolve straight into HeavyLeomon. The DP reduction + HeavyLeomon's When Digivolving lets me bottom deck any Digimon up to 9k DP (almost everything up to lvl 5). Altea's Start of Main Phase effect is amazing which lets me place a 4 cost or lower Black Machine/Cyborg Digimon under my Digimon, so it lets me recharge Fortitude at the start of my turns!

I would love to be able to help you out Panda with these. I feel like I could do a good voice for someone

That FunBeemon you came up with would be INSANELY powerful. A searcher that adds one to hand and 1 to security would be good but you cannot have a field effect that stops on play AND when digivolving effects. One or the other, sure but not both. Also, this would have to be an SR with that level of power. I love the idea of it though. A level 4 that plays itself from security when checked would be a great addition to the deck too. I also think the alternate win condition is a great idea, but it would rely on the deck having more ways to recover. Because right now in only has 2 (sort of) 1 is QueenBee's effect and the other is the Hornet Eraser option card. I think adding a memory setter winner with an "on play you may place one Royal Base trait card from your hand face up to the top of your security" would be the best addition to make the win condition viable.

I'm going to comment before I watch the video then see if you agree with my assessment of what is wrong with the deck; it's built around a single mechanic which gets weaker throughout the game. The QueenBee boss monster isn't good because it strips the power out of the decks single mechanic and if you can't close the game the turn she is played you will likely lose as soon as your opponent removes QueenBee. Also, the Winr tamer is only really useful to unbrick your hand so doesn't work well as the main tamer for the deck. I now run Bees with neither of these cards in favour of more X Antibody cards deck supported by the "field effects" of the face up security. It does much better that way and I've had quite a few wins online and at locals with it at this point.

Instead of the alternate win condition going on tigervespamon I would make it a delay card, tri color with yellow, that ignores color requirements if you have a face up royal base trait digimon face up in security. It could have the delay effect to spawn lv4 and below royal base trait digimon from the trash equal to half your face up securty rounded down, minimum 1. On play maybe place one royal base trait digimon from trash as your bottom security face up. And instead of the lv4 forgebeemon, how about a new one named dronebeemon? Same effect but also give it the while face up +1000dp as I think that is a staple for most of what the bees want to do in security minus a select few for certain effects.

Theres no way that Bandai will ever made that kind of Funbeemon 😅 Thats why i not a great fan of Fanmade cards. People abuse on their effects

I’m hoping the next set of promos gives a Winr tamer to memory set and a Forgebeemon to play stuff out. I don’t want them to just let the deck die! I think there needs to be more things when it’s in security, like if it’s checked De-Digivolve 1 or something. Finally, it needs a better way to recover security. Like a Winr that says, “if you have 3 or less security or all your security cards are face up, when a security card is checked, suspend this tamer to add a royal base from your hand face up in your security.

The deck could have been doing great if Winr reduce the evolution cost by 1 if digvolved from secuirty, and is true we need a 3rd FanBeemon Most likely the next Winr memory setter & Lv4 would probably be a promo just like the rest Oh another problem is that half of the archetype has Liberator trait (BT19 Fanbeemon to QueenBeemon line) and the other half is not (BT18 Fanbeemon to Tigervespamon line)

I have been playing and LOVING this deck, My biggest problem is there is not a cheaper way to recover Sec than the 8-cost option. A Winr Memory Setter would also be nice lol. Maybe an effect like "Suspend Tamer; you may place a Digimon (Whose Lv is the same or below your highest Lv in play Digimon) face up in your security"

I love my bee deck, even if it sucks imma get it to max rarity someday. Firstly yes it definitely needs another level 3 and 4 before it's viable. It's frustrating that the main form of protection to actually keep bodies on board is the bt19 Forgebeemon when we only have 8 in archetype champions to play with. It would be really nice to have a play out of security effect on a new champion but honestly just having another royal base lvl 4 frees up bt19 Forgebeemons to be on field, as things are you're forced to digivolve on top of them and regularly lose out on protection. The lack of search is also another big problem for the deck, I'm stuck using either bt16 ukkomons or bt9 kokabuterimon x. The fact that Winr doesn't reduce Evo cost also really hurts the deck, so to try close that gap I've been running bt9 Maki Himekawa to search for pieces and reduce Evo cost with some success tho it's not ideal having to dig through older cards to get this new Liberator deck to work. I feel a rookie adding two cards to hand and one face up in security is a little two powerful and is more than other rookies are doing, maybe having the choice to add the second card to hand or security would be more balanced in the current meta but the power creep is really so I'll take it if that's what Bandai wants to give us. Credit to Bandai I feel like Bees is an archetype that is walking a fine line, if it gets the right support it has the potential to be really powerful, a lot of the pieces are already there. It just needs a little push. Personally I'm really not a fan of alternative win conditions. I think for the most part they're gimmicky and they take away from the experience of playing a game when I find out my opponent is playing a completely different game. If I'm going to lose I want it to be fair and square not to some bs that I had basically no chance of being able to stop. The lack of alternative win-cons in the Digimon tcg was one of the reasons for me deciding to move over from MTG at the time and I see the introduction of any alt win-cons as a slippery slope to where Magic is. 6 face up security is achievable now, it's not as hard as you'd think, especially if your opponent is forced to attempt to delete or bounce smaller bodies with a QueenBee on board. Deletion and bounce effects are typically mandatory, effectively forcing your opponent to give you a recovery when going up their own line. If your opponent isn't careful they could just hand you the game without realising. Unless the Doomsday Clock win-con gets more support in bt21 I can't approve of what I see as being a far easier win-con being introduced, and I clearly don't want Doomsday Clock to get easier to pull off. Alt win cons are difficult to balance correctly, by their nature they go against the original structure and design of the game. While I do approve of your suggestion of it being a start of your turn effect so that the opponent has the chance to interrupt it; I will never get fully behind any alt win-con, even if it's for the benefit of my beloved Bee deck. Overall the deck needs more search, more memory or reduced Evo costs and a way to recover. And I mean actual recovery not adding cards to security from trash, it really hurts when your opponent checks Hornet Eraser when you don't have any Bees in trash 😢

One of the things the deck desperately needs is a way to add more security to it. Having to remove a security to put one in makes the deck dead against aggro especially when all your effects rely on having cards in security. I also don't think it would be too powerful bc as you said, if your opponent knows what they are swinging into, I believe it wouldn't be too overpowered to have an effect to add a royal base to your security face up without removing one. Hopefully bt22 gives us a really good new royal base TigerVespamon line for the deck

Liking the ideas in this set and will see how the bt 22 will do for the deck( hopefully). Would be nice to have a lv 5 that combined Oblivimon and camnonbeemon. You reveal your sec face up and do stuff instead being overly reliant on the egg or specific lv 6. Then lv 6 ace would be nice to have for queen to play for free. And a queen just putting any royal base card face up as a effect would be so great.

First your security is face up, second your security is face up.

After decades, these bees were finely developed.

Honestly, what the royal base shouldve done was have the security still face-down. Like, add royal base digimon from hand to security face down, then shuffle it. When its checked into security, if a certain requisite is met, after the battle, it can be placed back into the bottom security face-up. That way, itll have the face-up security gimmick, while having it so your opponent has to kill that security twice to fully kill it. But thats my thoughts though

With the possibility of getting Fei as a Tamer in Cyber Eden along with a new TigerVespamon, I think we have good chances of more support soon(ish). Personally I think giving the archetype a "Field Spell" would be perfect. You can place pretty much whatever effect you want on it and the way "Field Spells" work already synergies with the Royal Base playstyle. Giving them protection would be really good, like " Your Turn: While you have a Royal Base Digimon in play, your opponent cannot activate when digivolving effects, Opponents Turn: While you have a Royal Base Digimon in play, your opponent cannot activate On Play effects." Giving them the Insectoid protection of being immune to digimon effects while suspended would also work, if not be a little boring. I would personally give Fei an effect like "Whenever a Royal Base Digimon is played out of your Security, you may suspend this Tamer to place 1 Royal Base Digimon from your Hand or Trash face-up as your bottom security." or "On Play: You may flip two of your Security cards face up. Then you may place 1 Card with the Royal Base trait face-up at the bottom of your Security". Another fun one would be "All Turns: All of your Face-up Royal Base Digimon in your Security gain 3000/4000 DP". That would make it harder for your opponent to chip you out. A level 3 searcher and level 4 to cheat out a Tamer would be nice.

0:06 thanks for the shout out man I appreciate it

It's a slow deck. More unique security effects would be cool. Like maybe security when one of your digimon with royal base is deleted, place that digimon as your bottom security card then play this digimon. So it cycles itself

A new Winr that's a memory setter and maybe reduces memory or gains memory when cards are added to/digivolved from Security. A level 4 that plays a Winr. A searcher rookie. Just these basics would really help. They are the baseline that all "archetype" lines have now.

I like the idea of adding yellow to the deck making some cards green yellow, gives it recovery options. Also, let them flip security more freely. For example the cost can be suspend a one of your digimon to flip a security. Or to prevent removal or upon removal flip a security card. The set up just takes to long and they just need to be able to flip their cards or replace them with face up cards.

Man that new Alpha ouryuken Ace just kills this deck, sadly.

Edit: i finished the video. I agree with some of your points, the alternate win condition seems janky but fun, but I highly doubt it. I also loved your ideas for the lvl 3 and lvl 4. The lvl 3 seems a bit busted but the deck is very bad so might aswell print the next Bt14 Patamon. As for myself, here are a couple things I feel like the deck is missing so badly: 1 a dedicated searcher 2 a way to play tamers for free 3 at least make a discount with the tamers when you evo from security. Having to pay for the tamer AND for the full evolution cost feels so bad and so slow. Specially when other decks cheat it out for free easily. The top end and lvl 5 are okay, but the lvl 3 and lvl 4 might as well be vainillas cuz you're not using them for anything except their trait. Most people including me completely dropped Winr as the tamer after the 1 week of testing, and moved to only black tamers like the digi police and Yuji, and I started testing with Cyberdramon ACE as a way to get free tamers. Its not good enough but it's better than before And 4- a way to pseudo blitz, I tested with old X antibody but queen misses the timing for when attacking, and most of the time the deck is so slow you wont get a turn to play queen, then have her live for a turn and then swing, its just not happening. So I think the deck desperately needs a way to swing even when the memory tips over to your opponent so you get a chance to use queen.

I think it would be really interesting if the face up security cards protected Queenbeemon specifically. Stuff like saying she can't be deleted, bounced, de-digivolved, etc. That way if you get enough of the correct effects in security she's virtually unkillable and her effect to keep recovering deleted bees suddenly becomes a huge problem. There's gotta be a way to make face up security cards more threatening too. Just giving them security effects would be a nice start. De-digivolve 1, suspend a digimon and it can't unsuspend, etc. Force the opponent to play around it at least a little instead of attacking with 0 risk. Really sucks that this was such an experimental archetype and fell woefully short of an acceptable power level. IMO most of the current cards need to go if it's ever gonna be decent. Will require 3-4 rounds of support but it can be done.

As much as i love the deck, it crumbles like Gallantmon has for the past 20 sets, the new line would need to give it something more interesting then just +1000 DP (can't have 3 Different lv 4's doing the same thing) as these are based on Bee/Wasps/Hornets Stunning your opponent should be more Thematic with this deck (at least its an X-Antibody deck and can use some of the generic support to push it) maybe an End of Turn, this digimon can attack would help push the deck forward as it wants to be aggressive, Memory Setter Winr would also help as having to tag out into other not so Royal base focused setters isn't helping the deck, maybe a Tiger Queen DNA lv 7 that would pop a security for every 2/3 face up security you control. lots of ways the deck can go, but it does need support and the next space is possibly EX9

It's time to do Meicoomon/Ragulemon!

I feel like what the royal base needs is a way to add more to security, especially as most of the digimon in it swap a security out, but if there's nothing to swap, you don't get to add a card in. Maybe even putting a token into the security, that has 0DP, so your opponent is confident to swing into it as normal, but you're not losing out because you can add more in. Or maybe something that plays out face up bees that are killed in security.

I know we are getting Machinedramon support soon, but I'd love to hear what you think would help it.

Personally i think the floodgate effect should be on the megas and probably only 1 of them so for example if you have a queenbee in your sec its stops on plays that kinda effect is too strong imo on a rookie and having both. For tiger vespa id say make his protection once per turn and thats it tbh