I tried to get through this book and I just couldn’t finish it. For all the reasons you mentioned it just seems so unbiblical, and anti-gospel and frankly ethnocentrist. I kept thinking to myself “Is this what Jesus died for? This was his dying vision?” No way. Can’t wait to read Jesus and the Powers.
@johnlee7699Күн бұрын
Well, Call me an addict to High Christology ❤😂 "My utmost for His Highest" 😇 Maranatha 🙏🙏🙏
@UniversalistSon92 күн бұрын
Adoptionist Christology or similar views were among the earliest Christian understandings of Jesus' nature and relationship to God. In the 1st-3rd centuries CE, various Christian groups held different perspectives on Jesus' divinity, humanity, and the role of the Holy Spirit. Adoptionist or Dynamic Monarchianist views were likely prevalent among early Jewish-Christian communities, who emphasized Jesus' human nature and his empowerment by the Holy Spirit. This perspective was also influenced by Jewish traditions and scripture. Some early Church Fathers, like Theophilus of Antioch (c. 180 CE) and Hippolytus of Rome (c. 200 CE), held Adoptionist views. However, as Christianity evolved and theologians like Origen (c. 250 CE) and Athanasius (c. 350 CE) developed more sophisticated Trinitarian theories, Adoptionism gradually became less prominent. The Council of Nicaea (325 CE) and the Council of Constantinople (381 CE) solidified the orthodox Trinitarian doctrine, affirming Jesus as fully human and fully divine, co-eternal with God the Father. While Adoptionism wasn't entirely eliminated, it became a minority view, and Trinitarianism became the dominant understanding of God and Christ in Christianity. Despite this, Adoptionist Christology remains an important part of Christian history and theology, offering insights into the diverse perspectives of early Christians.
@deinstaller2 күн бұрын
Your excellent use of humor gave me a belly laugh. Your penetrating analysis and explanation of the text had me standing and cheering.
@elliotwalton61592 күн бұрын
6:12 This is why I tune in every week, same Bat time, same Bat channel, and enjoy reading your books so much. You use humor in a way that never undercuts either the scholarship or the reverence of the subject.
@mkl22372 күн бұрын
Maranatha. Marana tha. Mara natha
@elliotwalton61592 күн бұрын
Thanks
@EmilyTodicescu2 күн бұрын
According to Klein Dictionary, מָר, מָרָא (= master, sir) is related to Arab. imrū (= man), al-mar’u (= the man). Thus, Jesus is “The Man”.
@auldlangsign31792 күн бұрын
I agree that Paul had a "high" Christology because his Jesus was a divine figure for whom Paul (and the rest of the New Testament writers) was waiting. Paul (and they) has no concept of a "returning" Jesus but a Jesus who will appear for the first time. It's just a pity the gospels were placed first and thus obscure what the earliest Christians believed.
@earlychristianhistorywithm86842 күн бұрын
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@Orthodoxy.Memorize.Scripture3 күн бұрын
Stop. Baptism is and was never understood as a symbol. You are forcing an interpretation the Catholic Church (not RC) never believed or lived. Western Roman Catholicism and Protestantism and it’s many offshoots have no essence and energies distinction and maintain a created grace, and therefore have no understanding of the uncreated grace of God in theology or practice since bring outside the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@Orthodoxy.Memorize.Scripture3 күн бұрын
It was and continues to be a Creed for the one holy Church. The Councils are binding. It’s not open to interpretation. Nobody believed that but the heretics in that time. Scary that Prots think so often as the heretics had.
@SheelaMarieMVacal4 күн бұрын
I would not say.. I am a Christian.. But I would say my religion is..
@SheelaMarieMVacal4 күн бұрын
We do not say Christian.. We say.. Christianity Religion.. Catholic Muslim Jehova Orthodox Budhist Mormon
@SheelaMarieMVacal4 күн бұрын
What is difference from Jewish and Hebrew????????
@gregoryh.m.58985 күн бұрын
how about a functional division of labor between Cephas and Paul, agreed upon in the right hand of fellowship, and enacted in Antioch?
@stevelowry91275 күн бұрын
Christ was a completion of the law. All the law did was prove that you could not live good enough to be saved or worthy of God. Christ came as promised to complete the law with the ultimate blood sacrifice his own. No theory no maybes no per chancepredicted from the beginning
@PunkDogCreations5 күн бұрын
This channel can not be trusted as a trusted source, as it is clearly biased and makes basic mistakes.
@PunkDogCreations5 күн бұрын
Matthew 5:8-13 :The Faith of the Centurion 5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” 7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?” 8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” 10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.
@PunkDogCreations5 күн бұрын
This is blatantly false. Mark 16:15 states : And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
@johnirish9896 күн бұрын
You don't seem to divide rightly. The most correct cutting of His word is that between the gospel of Jesus and the gospel of the risen Christ. And smack dab in the middle is the most important event in the history of the universe: the cross. Two radically different gospels of to and for two radically different groups who have two radically different destinations. The basics: the Jews, Gentile proselytes, the Circumcisionists/the Gentiles, the nations, the Uncircumcisionists; under law, works/under grace; a terrestrial destination/ a celestial destination. The bride of the Lambkin/the body of Christ. And the two radically different gospels are NOT to be mixed because doing so just causes chaos and confusion and brings great joy to Satan.
@brucekriskovich49756 күн бұрын
Who ate lunch with Abraham?
@brucekriskovich49756 күн бұрын
Yeshua was worshipped as God by his Jewish apostles. You are ignorant of Judaism and the Hebrew scriptures!
@notanemoprog6 күн бұрын
Now THAT is a charge.
@brucekriskovich49756 күн бұрын
@@notanemoprog what does that mean exactly? Do agree or disagree?
@user-oz9zv2bw1x5 күн бұрын
just to quote your statement: "You are ignorant of Judaism and the Hebrew scriptures!" this also applies to YOU, nowhere in the NT would you find a text or a verse from the Jewish followers in Jerusalem that ever thought that yeshu was ever seen or worship as a g-d, on the other hand it was Paul lunacy that created this new religion using Greek philosophy and by deifying yeshu among the gentiles.
@brucekriskovich49755 күн бұрын
@@user-oz9zv2bw1x you should read the NT before you speak. Start with John 1
@user-oz9zv2bw1x5 күн бұрын
@@brucekriskovich4975 What’s your point?? I have read the entire so called “new testament” in Hebrew, Greek, English and Spanish. I just read again in those languages 1st john, to many discrepancies in the original languages to the English and Spanish translations. Plus, the canon of the nt books was completed in the year 430 of the common era, and it so adulterated with Catholic’s views that is not worth the reading even for fun. And verse 1st john 5:7 doesn’t appear in any of the oldest manuscripts of Greek known today’s scholars.
@stephenbailey99697 күн бұрын
An important step has been to recover the diversity of Second Temple Judaism and analyze precisely what Jesus and the apostles were talking about. Looking at the scriptures only through a medieval, or sixteenth century, or modern lens often misses important facets of the gospel message.
@charliemike99407 күн бұрын
Imo, because early Christianity was a mystery cult and had plenty of overlap with the other mysteries. Wouldn't have been too far of a jump. Especially after Paul repackaged it. Feel like there is plenty of source material to back this up, within biblical canon and outside of it. Side note. I do think studying medical sources can really shed light on a lot of NT concepts. ie: Galen, Hippocratis, Asclepious.
@earlychristianhistorywithm86847 күн бұрын
I don't think so. The thesis that Paul turned the Jesus movement into a mystery cult died out in the 1980s.
@charliemike99407 күн бұрын
@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684Mostly agree, that's the opposite of what I'm saying friend. Although still very mystery cultish even after Paul, and to this day. That's fine if they abandoned certain thoughts but the evidence of that being the case in its origin is mostly undeniable.
@charliemike99407 күн бұрын
@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 To be clear what I am saying is this. The early Jesus movement was a Mystic/Mystery cult. Then Paul, a Mystic. repackaged the Jesus movement making it more palatable for those outside Judaism. Which I think explains the gnostic sect of the belief. I understand some of this in NT could be literary devices. However there is far more evidence outside that just possibility. It's everywhere, especially when engaging the text alongside primary Greek and Jewish sources. (Mystic Paul: asent literature)
@esoptron39836 күн бұрын
Could you clarify the characteristics that you believe establish early Christianity as a mystery cult? As far as I can tell, early Christianity lacks many of the traits belonging to the title "mystery cult" and only shares those that characterize small/new religion of any variety.
@charliemike99406 күн бұрын
@@esoptron3983 Absolutely I will do my best, it's late. The mystery cults have rite of drinking (sometimes consumption of the deity), ecstatic speech (even to the point of needing to be interpreted), divine spirit possession, greater & lesser mysteries, a divine figure of worship, death & resurrection (decent & re-asent ), prophecy, initiation, new hope in the afterlife and so on. Eleusinian, Baccic/Orphic, Mithraic, for a few. My comment is a very condensed version lol. Not saying they all believe the same things. Christianity imo is a combination of Jewish/Persian/Greek unique in its own ways. Again saying what Jesus preached was more mystery/mystic cult than what Paul later preached.Although I think he was a Jewish mystic, early Kabbalah type. Due to the Merkhivah and Mishna. Hope this clarifies things a little. Does this show up?
@BobWangwenyi237 күн бұрын
From Jewish Jewish to Gentile Gentile
@earlychristianhistorywithm86847 күн бұрын
Yeah, title fixed.
@notanemoprog6 күн бұрын
@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 Also fixing titles? Soldiers, on the cross
@user-cs2qk4qw5q7 күн бұрын
Beautiful 😮
@notanemoprog7 күн бұрын
Interesting. Am I correct in concluding that you're using "Jew/Judea/Judaism" and "Israel/land of Israel" more or less interchangeably? Would it therefore be fair to say that you are not persuaded by the recently published work by Jason Staples?
@earlychristianhistorywithm86847 күн бұрын
Jew/Judean are the same (mostly), while Israel is geography and religious heritage.
@notanemoprog6 күн бұрын
@@earlychristianhistorywithm8684 Thanks for the clarification - so when in Matthew 19:28 Jesus says "ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel", are members of these 12 Tribes all understood to be Jews/Judeans? Or do you see this as a metaphor and understanding it correctly doesn't require detailed inquiry in the specifics of the terminology/language?
@killpetty7 күн бұрын
keep up the good work, mike. thanks for everything.
@Slaaf_van_God3427 күн бұрын
It makes me laugh that you believe this crap over excepting that the west is a evil and filthy place😂😂😂 our “leaders” are religious and strong on there feet
@woodshed_moments8 күн бұрын
Polycarp wasn't catholic... so don't try to co-opt him.
@mattaikay92511 күн бұрын
I am guessing that it is a very important to prove that Christianity never existed in India before the Portuguese, Dutch & British showed up - there was no diaspora of Jews from ME during the first and second temple periods.
@travissharon153611 күн бұрын
God is Sovereign in dynamic omniscience. He is just not a micromanaging tyrant.
@travissharon153611 күн бұрын
I think the open view is strong on God getting His will done as well. All prophecy that God doesn't make conditional gets fulfilled.
@youknowmyname569512 күн бұрын
What University is this?
@SibleySteve12 күн бұрын
This is really outstanding. Up until I realized it was ancient, I thought to myself, "this is a good contemporary Anglican vision statement." If only this were as descriptive of our modern movement as it was to Diognetus. Also looking forward to your treatment of some of the beefier dialogue in 4 Maccabees between Antiochus IV and Eleazar, particularly 5:13 when Antiochus lays a juicy compromise before Eleazar and tempts him with "it's not wrong if you were compelled to do it by your rulers" devil talk.
@earlychristianhistorywithm868412 күн бұрын
Hey everyone, hope you like this video based on the Epistle to Diognetus 5. It's one of my favourite quotes from the Apostolic Fathers. Find similar videos on the Channel: www.youtube.com/@earlychristianhistorywithm8684
@alexolga1114 күн бұрын
you are phylosophers, God born a Son Psalm 110 before this world in heaven, that when the Word became Flesh. He walked in All of the Old Testament and came through Mary in His Flesh. As He got in, He got out. His Body was not of this world Hebrews 9:11-13, John 6:51 (Body from heaven). Study about bodies 1 Corinthians 15:40-50. Jesus never had our physical body. If you make Jesus to a carnal man you are a worshiping creature, not a Creator.
@alexzavadil390115 күн бұрын
If that voice was AI, it was really good
@guestradamus14 күн бұрын
Most certainly a robot, and I agree!
@NoOne-ix7dg16 күн бұрын
If you live in Orwell's 1984, you don't know for sure whether you're being watched or not, while you're watching TV. But we surely know that we are watched, regardless of whether we are looking at the screen or not.
@DCCan17 күн бұрын
Its not meant to be taken literally. It's referring to balancing our masculine traits and our feminine traits. Action and Emotion, yin and yang, etc etc
@duncanidaho823417 күн бұрын
“Literally” followed by describing something that is in no way the same as the claim. What sort of desperation is required to lie like this? Or is it just inability to comprehend what words actually mean?
@jimmyj256317 күн бұрын
No one cares about it anyway
@jobeyene334218 күн бұрын
I believe that interpretation is not related to gender. Jesus' response was not specifically directed at males or females in the mentioned text; the context is different.
@radiosophea455319 күн бұрын
Hi what about Alexandria?
@danilomenoli20 күн бұрын
If presbyterian church didn't exist I'd seriously consider to be anglican.
@hplunkett20 күн бұрын
Lol, wow, Bird is TRASH
@christopherlees113420 күн бұрын
I agree with the speaker, not the guy making Trump faces.
@conceptualclarity20 күн бұрын
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@ShonMardani20 күн бұрын
Gospel of Thomas was about building/financing construction of small attached rooms for SINGLE males and mainstream Christianity was based on marrying a Virgin girl, like Jesus's' mother Mary who married Jacob as a Virgin (Virgin Mary). Idea was to house the singles after marrying them first.
@matthewb252able21 күн бұрын
Isn’t benevolent righteous kingship the form of government promoted by the Bible? Democracy seems to allow way to many people to try to direct a nation. To many people having a voice in the direction of the nation is not wise…it is like running a church like democracy with the need to vote of everything. It could take 3 months just to rearrange the church worship team because you have to debate and work towards an agreement when the leaders can just make the best decision
@pamelamceachern95378 күн бұрын
Maybe, but I don't think Liberal Democracy was a thing in Jesus day. With much larger, modern societies today, I think LD's are best as people who live in them tend to be more prosperous, equal under the law, and basic human rights are better protected. We still have a long way to go, but I can't think of too many "benevolent righteous kingships" I recall studying in college!
@matthewb252able7 күн бұрын
@@pamelamceachern9537I think it is fine if you want to say LD’s is what works best in modern large nations but I don’t think that it is what the Bible promotes. Some LD’s like to say they are based on biblical principles. Often they include philosophy of Locke and others.