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@thorsondelaspalmas1460 14 сағат бұрын

I suspect many differences are due to gain staging differences in the mixer section. I’m still not clear if the T6 uses a cp3-type mixer. That section is the secret sauce of the Moog-it’s highly reactive to the combined level of the VCOs.

@soundnnvision 5 күн бұрын

🥰

@blankspace0000 5 күн бұрын

There's a softness to these super old digital keyboards

@floatinganarchychannel3204 5 күн бұрын

Beffy drums😊

@infestedalien 6 күн бұрын

This demo is very good. It's always tempting to own a mini-moog for the sake of having it. However there seems to be some small areas where the minimoog is a minimoog in sound. If thats worth it I think the decision should be a minimoog. But many of the fat sounds I like in my setup is covered from my Trigon :) And not to mention how it speeds up my workflow with presets and calibration function. Absolutely LOVE IT!

@jrodohio 9 күн бұрын

The e7 is a future classic.

@odmusicman 10 күн бұрын

The 4:40 mark is the essence of the Oberheim sound

@jlmartin63 10 күн бұрын

I just bought one today for 165€ in excellent condition and I'm happy.

@Jota.Barrakero 12 күн бұрын

3:03 its wonderfull too!! Woww

@yoggyone 12 күн бұрын

do they have the same sound core??? if not, is it really noticiable??

@itzaussie9384 14 күн бұрын

2:28 is that "dire dire docks" piano?

@MIDERA 16 күн бұрын

I had made a (fairly terrible) comparison between the ISE-NIN, which I couldn't pronounce, and the System 8 Jupiter 8 plug out. I noticed the S8 PW went closer to zerocrossing than the ISE-NIN, which is similar to what you're hearing too. System 8 sounds brighter too. Maybe there were menu settings on the ISE-NIN that I missed. Nice to hear 'the real thing' against the ISE-NIN.

@alexandrebaroni1057 18 күн бұрын

Hi. What is your felling between Gemini and Modal 002/008? I have money for one of these. Thanks

@user-wt6gf8np4u 17 күн бұрын

would love to know this as well!

@illcritikz 21 күн бұрын

Both very similar, the ub-xa has a consistent slight brightness/harshness to it over the ob. It's possible this could mellow down with age. I doubt anyone would notice the difference once it's gone through a pre-amp and some effects/filters with a sound engineer, particularly in any sort of reasonable mix. A more apples for apples would be an ob straight out of the factory brand new in the 80s vs the ub now, time does some things to componenets. Behringer has done a great job at recreating a legend.

@illcritikz 21 күн бұрын

I'll add to this, I have an OB-6 which I think is just fantastic and because of it wouldn't buy an OB-8/Xa or UB, but if I didn't have it I'd be very happy with a ub-xa. Apart from pure nostalgia it would be pretty hard to justify an original OB over the UB for the price, reliability and availability. I say this staring at a bunch of 80's synths and drum machines in my collection, but most of them hadn't had a modern recreation when I bought them.

@jeanfatale 21 күн бұрын

The Behringer sounds really good (that is, they both do). I just wish they weren't such douche bags. :(

@fayzmusikTV 22 күн бұрын

Man I want to do an overhaul to my JP8000 and get it sounding like this again‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥

@robotjeans 23 күн бұрын

Missing my JX-3P I left at my sons house when I moved to Europe. Very tempted to buy another here in Austria but until then, this is my fix.

@donato77 24 күн бұрын

The Jupiter 8 sounds badly out of tune and in need of service. It also sounds like the synths weren't matched by ear, and instead only by slider positions. The comparison has already been made by Alex Ball and they can sound extremely close.

@deutsch4205 22 күн бұрын

Tuning aside, this video clearly demonstrates that the core waveforms sound very different

@donato77 22 күн бұрын

@@deutsch4205 Go watch there Alex Ball video. The comparison there shows they can be nearly identical.

@AnalogFlava 24 күн бұрын

Wow so good. Is it mostly the delay, the juno, the playing or all of it? Guess im asking, if I should pick up this delay unit? I have an sde330 which I havent fully explored yet but do use. Is it the same setting all the way through?

@jupiterbyjay6168 26 күн бұрын

Good Video, the recording chain doesn't matter... you can hear the difference quite well.

@donmasaoy6970 26 күн бұрын

How much if any restoration was done on the Xa? The 8X probably has tighter tolerance components regardless

@iSirTaki 26 күн бұрын

Ehrlich gesagt bin ich kein Freund von Vergleichen mit so simplen (langweiligen) abgehackten Sounds (basic Waveforms) die eh kaum einer nutzen würde.. Gerade bei Sounds mit ordentlich Release beginnt der 8er so richtig zu leben. Solche Vergleiche würden mich interessieren. Nur weil du es bist, habe ich mal reingehört, sonst mache ich immer sofort wieder aus.

@vintagesynths 26 күн бұрын

Danke dir,bin selbst mit dem Video nicht happy, habe blöderweise alles über den rackmixer laufen lassen. Das Gerät ist leider weg, sonst hätte ich noch ein vernünftiges Video gemacht, ich finde es aber dennoch einigermaßen nützlich und habe es hochgeladen, auch auf die Gefahr hin, dass ich hier gedisst werde, aber vor dem einen oder anderen mag es ja nützlich sein, jedenfalls kann ich selbst sehr deutlich sagen, dass ich ultramäßig enttäuscht von dem Basisklang des Klons bin. Normalerweise bin ich da etwas neutraler, auch er hat durchaus seine Stärken, so hat er weitere Funktionen, aber von einem Jupiter 8 Ersatz kann man hier in keinster Weise reden. Somit unterstützt das Video etwas meine persönlichen Erfahrungen, stellt diese aber natürlich nicht unter Beweis.

@vintagesynths 26 күн бұрын

Ach noch was: später kommen ja dann auch die längeren Sounds mit Release, aber da ist es extrem deutlich, da kommt der ISE überhaupt nicht mehr mit. Witzigerweise habe ich da sogar mit dem DM 12 bessere Sounds hinbekommen, die näher am Jupiter 8 waren. Das Video dazu habe ich vor circa sechs Jahren gepostet.

@iSirTaki 26 күн бұрын

Ehrlich gesagt bin ich kein Freund von Vergleichen mit so simplen (langweiligen) abgehakten Sounds (basic Waveforms) die eh kaum einer nutzen würde.. Gerade bei Sounds mit ordentlich Release beginnt der 8er so richtig zu leben. Solche Vergleiche würden mich interessieren.

@ironinquisitor3656 26 күн бұрын

The Ise-Nin sounds Jupiter 8-esqe but you can't beat the king here.

@NickHowesAstro 26 күн бұрын

That's killed any sales of the NIN

@zxy7529 27 күн бұрын

I didn‘t listen yet but the ISE-NIN isn‘t even close to being a JP-8 clone. SSI2131 instead of discrete VCO, digital envelopes, different clean VCA instead of warm OTA VCA, only the filter is apparently similar in design…it‘s a different synth with some JP-8 marketing attached

@st0rmchild 27 күн бұрын

Yes. Deckard's Dream is not a CS-80 clone either. Black Corp's synths are just "inspired by" classic synths and basically bear little resemblance to the originals in terms of sound. DinSync is the only group making real replicas that can be compared 1:1 with the originals.

@ironinquisitor3656 26 күн бұрын

You're also comparing a brand-new analog to one that is 40 years old. The aging circuits is going to make a huge difference too.

@eiffe 27 күн бұрын

ISE-NIN missing the high end? Sounds like a constant Low-Pass Filter. Disappointing

@SkyePlayzGamez 27 күн бұрын

yikes what the heck is going on here...

@AlainHubert 27 күн бұрын

Thanks but... Frankly, to my knowledge, you're the only person on KZbin who can make a Jupiter 8 sound bad, I'm sorry to say. Perhaps your's needs some servicing by a qualified tech, because it also sounds badly out-of-tune from voice to voice at times? Despite all that, I agree with you that the ISE sounds muffled and dull compared to the JP8, even with the filter wide open.

@vintagesynths 27 күн бұрын

As I noted, the synths were recorded both through a rack mixer and the signal chain was not optimal. I really hesitated to upload this vid, but it shows that the Ise nin is not capable to sound as warm as the Jupiter-8

@AlainHubert 27 күн бұрын

@@vintagesynths Agreed. I appreciate the time you took to record and upload the video, still.

@vjrei 27 күн бұрын

Gorgeous....

@TheDeathBeatsOfficial 29 күн бұрын

When I started releasing music in the 90s, the JX3P was the only synth I had and I used to use it alongside my Amiga 1200 computer. I released a number of tunes on vinyl in the late nineties Drum & Bass scene in the UK and all of the sounds in those tunes where made using the JX3P. In terms of sound design it's capable of allot more than the average demo from Roland will ever express. If you are curious to hear an example of what I was doing with it do a search for 'RareForm - Spinechilla' here on KZbin. In twenty five years, I've not heard anyone making the kinds of sounds with the JX3P that I used to get out of it. As with most synths, it can be pushed allot further than you might think. Cheers!

@vasnellgeometrics6381 29 күн бұрын

I once had this epic synth and regret that I sold it, for candy bar😰

@AdamsOlympia Ай бұрын

It's immediately obvious when listening on a good 2.1 hifi system. The original has loads of character, unpredictable noise and sizzle , sounds more alive and almost 3D. The clone sounds lifeless in comparison. It's like the difference between a legit Roland Tape echo and their digital pedal emulation. (Boss) It doesn't have the magic. Of course the average music fan isn't going to tell a difference in the context of a song, but pro musicians with a discerning ear will certainly know.

@jimlutz1290 Ай бұрын

What Keyboard stand do you to stack two keyboards . . .? Great Video, Waiting for availability of UB-Xa.

@danthreepwood2760 Ай бұрын

Dave: ''We need more knobs & buttons on the T6!'' Marketing: ''We need less buttons, and make more money!'' Dave won 😉

@amonster8mymother Ай бұрын

❤

@user-tm8wy2oh2g Ай бұрын

De+ né?! 😅 beautful sound

@dickbanger8924 Ай бұрын

The jp8000 and the virus where both amazing synths.

@anthonybrett Ай бұрын

I purposefully kept the window minimised so I couldn't see the video and I figured out that I must have the worst ears in the world because I couldn't hear which was which. A lot of commenters here said they could hear the difference which means I need to get my ears checked I suppose.

@asynchronicity Ай бұрын

Proof that a no effect demo can be done well and sound fantastic.

@geet77777 Ай бұрын

someone needs to make a rainbow fader kit for the deepmind

@supadupahilton6848 Ай бұрын

Somthing interesting at 2:38. So the guy does a none for note comparison on most every patch, but on the big wide crossfade, he doesnt dare try to play the lower octave riff on the Bheringer. That's the mic drop moment for me.

@noviaema3993 Ай бұрын

Best sound🎉

@andrewkadar Ай бұрын

whats the preset name 4:25

@Andronicus2007 Ай бұрын

I remember in the 90s the JP-8 was going for around the $1,500 - 2,500 range. I thought it was too much back then, and bought a Juno 106 for $200.

@lucasasdelli Ай бұрын

Nobody noticed that the Polysix, although uses VCOs, doesn't has a TUNE routine and button, like all other analogs. That is because the standard way to tune them is to build an expo converter to each VCO, and tune the converters to match the total tuning. The Polysix has just one expo converter, that is switched between all 6 VCOs, therefore no discrepancies are noticed between them. The VCOs are very linear, therefore is a quite clever way to overcome to a common issue. I can't understand why that technique hasn't been replicated on other synths.

@lukebussey5218 Ай бұрын

Czs sound better than dxs, fight me

@MJDAWOLF Ай бұрын

You losers. Nobody can tell in a mix if it’s Arturia, Oberheim, Behringer or my anus.

@anthonybrett Ай бұрын

I agree, but I reckon I could smell your anus. ;)

@MJDAWOLF Ай бұрын

Your all a bunch of wankers! Just use Arturia and be done with it!

@davidnappyhoose204 Ай бұрын

I'm not sure why anyone is trying to compare this to modern keyboards. That's like comparing a television from 1984 to the ones we have today. Of course it's not going to be as good but you can still marvel at how ahead of its time it was back then, especially if you are old enough to have actually lived through it.

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