Honda CRF300L vs CRF300 Rally which is the Best Dual-sport Motorcycle for you?

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[@JuChams]

Thanks for giving international units, nice to not have to pause the video every 2 minutes to google it

[@garyausher]

Getting the Rally this week to replace a 18 year old XR650. It will live on a RV receiver hitch and spend most of its life running dirt roads and making grocery & beer runs. Cool video, thanks!

[@streetrat123]

Seems like the rally is the perfect halfway point between a dual sport and a light adventure bike. It’s right on the edge. I love that. Really looking at getting one if I can find it.

[@tarjas]

Just make sure you adventures don’t include highway speeds with luggage and an incline. 330lbs of bike, 300lbs of person and luggage, 286cc don’t add up well.

[@klrskir]

@@tarjas Pack lighter! 😉

[@markperrin5940]

Lose weight

[@scottlandmcc]

Great comparison. Love my Rally, aka my Africa Single. Bought an Africa Twin, too, and they're both amazing machines.

[@VermontMan]

Honda made a true winner of a motorcycle. It’s a shame they don’t build more. I love my 300L, though I do mull over if a Rally would be better. But in the end I think I made the right choice

[@bbaz6729]

One of my biggest plusses for the rally is the USB plug, windscreen, and front lights.

[@bkruger377]

Andrew..... Your reviews are always A+. You cover a lot of info at a good pace, and your comments are well organized and clearly explained. Thank you.

[@rkb3573]

Great video. Love the single track footage.

[@georgemikodesigns]

I couldn’t agree more… He was selling the rally, but all that single track was on his L. 😊

[@trashpanda7283]

Just got my M1 in ON, Canada. While I love clean and rumbling old cruisers/bobbers stylistically, I've been checking out dual sports more and more because I didn't want to limit my riding to just the street and I've been looking for a jack of all trades kind of bike. While the KLX300 has been in my crosshairs for a bit, I've been looking into the Honda CRF300L + Rally options more and more. Watching this now I'm sold on getting the rally and you got me with calling it a Bard from D&D which is the first class I ever played and I loved the versatility. Getting the Rally and making it a capable, lightweight adventure bike sounds perfect to me. Thank you for putting your time and effort into this video, it was great and helpful.

[@tripptraders]

Thanks Andrew! As always you are insightful and spot on… My Rally just arrived at the dealership yesterday… I get it Middle next week, so excited

[@The_T_Rav]

Just a heads up, The L and the Rally have different part numbers for the fork spring and rear shock. So, its very likely they have different suspension stiffness.

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

Yes thank you, I have seen that now.

[@Davran2742]

I really wanted a rally, but there have been very few used ones for sale in BC Canada, but a used '21 300L came available locally for such a good price, I grabbed it. I already have an acerbis tank and skid plate on order, as well as a t-rex racing windshield with nav bar. I still think I'll get a rally at some point, but there was a $2K difference between a used rally here and this 300L, so I'll enjoy the L for a couple years.

[@robertbarel896]

great video - i think you forgot to mention ground clearance difference: L:11.2 in , The Rally : 10.9 . Very small difference but its there

[@JustinNapper]

I absolutely love my Rally and plan to keep it along time. I’m a beginner off road and I can attest it’s just a blast to ride and I honestly believe very forgiving and picks up the slack from my inexperience. 🤟🤟😎😎😊😊

[@BobSmith-vs5jp]

I’ll be a new rider too- just as soon as I buy a new bike. Im also a short rider & the 450RL was too tall for me. What is your inseam? Do you think my 30” could touch toes on both sides?

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

Right on!

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

IM like 30" to 32" and the 300 platfrom is great. Tho my rally is huge now with this aftermarket suspension.

[@BobSmith-vs5jp]

Thanks for responding. There’s an L 30min away & a Rally 2hrs. I’m going to throw a leg over the L to see if it fits- then go for the rally! Thanks for sharing- enjoy!

[@Edgar_Randolph]

​@@BobSmith-vs5jp Hi Bob. What did you get in the end, and how has the last year been with the bike?

[@LupusAdNoctem]

If I understand it correctly, one big reason why the Rally's stock tank is > the 300L + Acerbis tank is that you get that extra fuel capacity without having to concede an accurate fuel gauge reading, since the 300L gauge is calibrated for the stock tank and not the additional volume the Acerbis tank adds.

[@lcdubs7847]

It's funny, I was looking at the two bikes on the showroom floor just this morning, and decided that the Rally was not worth the extra $1000CAN, but now you have me thinking. Also, I look at those trails you are riding and imagine taking my V-Strom 1000 down one, and that thought alone makes me really want an L OR a Rally. That would be pure torture on the Strom!

[@mariosraptor]

I have a 2017 Vstrom 1000. Thinking of letting her go and getting a rally with modded suspension.

[@Whatnow458]

I have a 2004 650 Vstrom that I’ve put in some tough spots, like the AZBDR. I’ll never sell it, but I’m thinking of adding a 300L or Rally for the trails.

[@marksomma2352]

Love your channel. I've been on the fence big time and I think I am settled on the Rally after seeing this post. Keep up the great work and I look forward to watching more content.

[@philippelabelle9988]

So clear! Thanks !😊

[@pigmeal2224]

We were lucky enough to score the Asian spec 300L here in Aust with brilliant LED light gear. I'd love to know how its light compares to the rally. I just spent up on a coupla 1.5L fuel cans and Rigg can holders to hopefully offset the smaller tank of my L. Bought in Feb, loving it so far ... ❤

[@ZeLogicnator5k]

Great Review, this helps a lot!! I need a bike to keep in WY and it was either my FE350s or buy a CRF300Rally. I think I may get the Rally.

[@vangilanteryan713]

Right on. Havent considered the rally much, but hmm... maybe so.

[@yeahboyiiiii222]

You sold me on the nimble

[@wilson5377]

Nice review!👍

[@philbuilds116]

Couldn't find a single 300 anywhere. I went with the XR150L instead. The air-cooling isn't fantastic for me in the desert, but what a dead simple workhorse. Would have loved to get a Rally, I couldn't find one.

[@klrskir]

Hahahaha.... I was in the same boat, and then out of the middle of nowhere a '23 Rally ABS shows up at my dealer at the end of July. Now I own both. I did get almost 900 miles on the 150L. Currently at 520 miles on the Rally. It's comical to get on the 150L at this point. Good luck in your search. 👍

[@northrocks]

how about seat width? how do they compare? I had a CRF 150L but I had to let it go because I use it to travel long distances and mybutt hurts

[@jimizuma]

How did you cut all the plastic away from around/below the engine?

[@JSpyx]

Hi, I am looking to buy either one of these bikes. But would you say the CRF300L is also good for long distant travelling on flat road surface? (HIghways etc) I live in the Netherlands, we go around 100 to 130km per hour here on the road. you think that would be suitable still for the CRF300L? thank you!

[@reg26]

Did you loose wind protection by cutting the fairing on your Rally? I own one and have thought of doing it

[@Matt-xi8zr]

I’m in the same boat as you. I think the loss in wind protection would be noticeable. The wind protection on my Rally is much better than my Tenere 700. I am worried about bashing up the plastic on trails. I don’t really want to add heavy crash bars. If I don’t cut the fairings I suppose I may be less willing to ride challenging trails. 🤷‍♂️

[@reg26]

Matt I've been using my Rally a lot off road since I asked that question. I do not think it's worth t getting the crash bars. I have dropped my Rally quite a few times and no damage at all. The plastics are cheap and if one breaks while doing a BDR or something I would just ducktape it and replace when I get back from the trip. They are way cheaper than buying the bars plus I don't want the added weight, JMHO .@@Matt-xi8zr

[@SeyyahiKainat]

@@Matt-xi8zr What about buying spare chinese fairings and cutting them? So can be replacing fairing maybe seasonal? 😊

[@Matt-xi8zr]

@@SeyyahiKainat I found replacement Rally fairings on BikerzBits. Almost $400 including shipping from Thailand. Can they be found cheaper elsewhere?

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[@jorgem.sanchezgonzalez5903]

So I have the rally, but am kind of worried about the fairings and them braking with the falls. Any ideas on this? Crashbars i habe found weigh a ton…

[@Spaxcore]

It's crazy that the rally doesn't have crash bars as standard tbh. Almost negates the weight difference when you're looking at the Himalayan

[@jorgem.sanchezgonzalez5903]

@@Spaxcore emmm no. Even if you put on 10kg of crashbars you still have more than 30kg weight difference.

[@Spaxcore]

@@jorgem.sanchezgonzalez5903 once you start adding the centre stand and pannier racks it starts creeping up. The difference of 15 to 20kg is fairly negligible when picking up a bike. Especially with the RE having a lower centre of gravity.

[@jorgem.sanchezgonzalez5903]

⁠@@Spaxcore why would you put a centre stand in an off road bike? My panier racks weigh in total 3 kg.

[@Spaxcore]

@@jorgem.sanchezgonzalez5903 you wouldn't if you're just doing off road but if you want to do long tours, which is presumably what the rally model is aimed for, it's very useful. Anyway, I'm not arguing the toss with you. It's daft to sell a rally upgraded model without crash bars. And if you're not bothered about weight difference why are you worried about the weight of crash bars?

[@aggro75]

Bard 😂

[@beaudonald870]

You got to either get a new vlog camera or get rid of the video of you talking, kinda scary.

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

I figured it out. It's the bitrate the bitrate of movement when there a lot going on in the back. So if I use drone or outside action shots it's much better.

[@trashpandatrailadv]

Neither of the CRF's, buy the KLX300 and build your own custom miniADV machine. Fight me. I do bite, and I have rabies.

[@kaylakunz8112]

I’m debating between crfs vs klxs, why would you say klx? I heard crfs are better on the freeway

[@user-piggyrides]

I heard klx if you are gay ? I bought 2 🥴

[@RonaldSmith-r6l]

1²dew😮😮​@@kaylakunz8112

[@markusludwig6023]

Hello friend, great comparison. 2 things I'd like to ask: Is the seat comfort different? Maybe different foam densities ... just wondering if your butt hurts more on one or the other after a long day riding. Does the Rally have additional mounting points for gearbags on the rear frame? Greetings🧭

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

The seats feel the same to me, they both hurt after a while of riding. I went with a seat concepts foam and installed it over the original seat pan. Easy to do and much cheaper this way. The rally has the same mounting points from what I can tell.

[@YawaraMarco]

Good video, thanks. L and Rally have different suspension, Italy spare parts catalogue. L code 52400K1TE11, Rally cod. 52400K1TE51. All other part numbers of the various bolts, nuts, collar washers are the same.

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

Really! see I though that! thanks for the info.