At 38:15, it's stated that, "when we eventually don't have gas tax revenue to be paying for all the things that we need (that the general fund covers), we will need to find new revenue generating sources..." My reply to that would be, when we don't have the gas tax revenue because most ICE vehicles are retired, the amount of money saved from subsidizing oil and gas companies will be significantly reduced too, thus freeing up more money. Oil/gas extraction will still take place because there are many things that use petroleum products for their production (plastics - which have alternative plant-based sources that can used for bags for example; baby oil; Vaseline; paraffin was; asphalt; tires; polyester containing clothes or materials; etc), but it will be significantly less. And there are many people interested in finding alternatives to these products. So I doubt that many companies that were thinking of going into the oil business will see that it's actually going to be profitable in the long run. So they'll look into other business ventures. At least, that is my hope. We need to tap the inovativeness of people to find alternatives.
@LeneOnLymph3 күн бұрын
It was said the book would be linked int he comments, but it's nowhere to be found. If you posted it, please pin it so it's at the top. Thanks. Breat presentation.
@dogsbodyish84033 күн бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you have any information on the "lithium plating" at the anode, which apparently occurs at low temperatures (when charging?)?
@crathob5 күн бұрын
EVS and Dr Dahn, thank you for taking the time to give this lecture and interview.
@ElectricVehicleSociety5 күн бұрын
You're welcome. We were very fortunate to have Dr. Dahn join us.
@bengacz9 күн бұрын
This should be taught in schools, we all have "LIon" batteries in all appliances, not only cars but also phones, watches, tooth brushes, power tools and so on. This is knowledge that would benefit the whole society!
@ElectricVehicleSociety9 күн бұрын
Agreed! I think that eventually, consumers will become more knowledgeable.
@hpa78611 күн бұрын
Hi it was very informative,how can i get hands on training can u guide me plz
@Stayhungry-N-Stayfoolish13 күн бұрын
@ElectricVehicleSociety Thanks for sharing such a useful information. Its a must watch for all existing and potential new EV owners. One of the biggest hurdle in EV adoption is the fear of battery degradation. 1) @31:04 I fail to understand why car manufacturers are not sharing the information if their (/supplier's battery) uses single crystal positive electrode material ? 2) As I understood, most of the discussion here is about reducing battery degradation due to charge cycles in other words reduce the impacts of "cycle ageing". Can you put up a video on what measures EV owners can take to reduce the impact of "Calendar Ageing" ?
@ElectricVehicleSociety12 күн бұрын
@@Stayhungry-N-Stayfoolish Thanks for watching and supporting our channel. We will be doing more on batteries in 2025.
@tourhuntr13 күн бұрын
thanks for all information. I drive a tesla model 3 long range with the lg batterie from 2021. the lg m50f, e5ld. What do you mean with "outlasts the lifetime of the car"? i'm driving only 15000 km to 20000 km per year and i'm concerced about the calendaric degradation more than the cycle degradation.
@ElectricVehicleSociety5 күн бұрын
I believe he meant that for average drivers, the car will wear out before the battery ever needs to be replaced. 'Calendaric' degradation is definitely a subject we should raise with Jeff next time.
@StephenBieda13 күн бұрын
What an interesting sustainable development! I really enjoyed this episode.
@EVDiscoveries13 күн бұрын
Agreed. And I'm sure this is only the beginning of what we will see develop in terms of sustainable living and the integration of EVs into our lives. Inductive car charging was not specifically mentioned but I'm sure they anticipate it.
@bardgolightly239820 күн бұрын
I have ordered a 2024 Tesla Model S. Does it have a Li-ion using single crystal electrode materials with moderate Ni content?
@decimal181520 күн бұрын
Current situation in the UK: one in four new cars sold this November was an EV, according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) - a 58% increase on November 2023. EV owners are seeing the benefits too, as 97% of electric car drivers say they do not want to go back to petrol and diesel cars.
@ElectricVehicleSociety20 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Very encouraging to see.
@johny.538121 күн бұрын
Nice but seatbelts?
@ElectricVehicleSociety21 күн бұрын
Good point. I hope it was a virtual background.
@ElectricVehicleSociety21 күн бұрын
Visit EVSociety.ca
@Alex_at89Ай бұрын
One thing I’m missing: every time you plug in the cable the contactor actuates so the battery can be charged. They have a limited lifetime, with Tesla I think they change the contactor itself, but other ev manufacturers - eg German ones replace the whole battery. So what use is a battery with a 90+% SoH with a burnt out contactor? Charging daily within a narrow windows wears out the contactor much faster ….
@ElectricVehicleSociety23 күн бұрын
I had one contactor fail back in 2013 (Tesla). As you say, they simply replaced the switch. Have not heard of anyone needing a battery replacement for this reason. The minimum 8 year warranty should also be a source of confidence.
@Alex_at8923 күн бұрын
@ that’s Tesla. Every other BEV manufacturer changes the battery. Maybe Kia can change the actuator, but Mercedes and BMW definitely change the battery pack
@ElectricVehicleSociety23 күн бұрын
@Alex_at89 Again, I haven't heard about this being an issue with any EVs. Is it a frequent problem with Mercedes and BMW? Wouldn't the warranty still apply?
@Alex_at8916 күн бұрын
@ no it’s not frequent, I only know about the one EQV, it was out of warranty due to driven Kilometers, but Mercedes offered to replace the battery pack at I think 90/10% cost share
@scidecАй бұрын
I tried to order, still no response. I am sure you receive a lot of negative communication, so maybe that is why there is no easy way to get in contact with anyone from EV Society.
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
Is it the book that you are trying to order? BTW, I am with EVS and would be glad to help.
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
Register for the webinar tinyurl.com/mv2d2w6d
@JoelSappАй бұрын
I'd agree, but then charge all cars based on car weight not just EVs. I know my Model 3 is the same weight as a BMW 3 series and think that is fair. But then all the pickups that everyone has should get charged in kind as well.
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
I agree. The best way to manage car 'road tax' would be by vehicle weight, regardless of the powertrain. I believe that suggestion was made at some point in the full webinar.
@TomTWalkerАй бұрын
From Dahn's talk a year ago, I know it is safe to have very low SOC if parked in the cold, but is it safe to have very high SOC (like 90 or 95% or 100%) when parked in the cold?
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
If you have a LFP battery in your car, I'm sure Jeff would say 90% or higher would be no problem and the cold temps actually help. Even a lithium battery can be kept at cold temps... it actually helps but I still don't think he would recommend long periods above 90% SOC.
@TomTWalkerАй бұрын
@@ElectricVehicleSociety Thanks. It's just that when he talked about SOC being no problem in cold temps, it seemed to be in the context of low SOC. I'd really like solid confirmation whether or not the issues with higher SOCs are or are not mitigated by cold weather (when the car is not being used).
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
@@TomTWalker I hope to have him back again in the new year so let's try and remember to ask this question specifically.
@jasonthompson7230Ай бұрын
Reminds me I have to wash the brake dust off of my wife's car wheels. ICE car.
@patrickmckowen2999Ай бұрын
Yes👍
@rpsmithАй бұрын
EVs are Garbage! That's why the government is forcing them on everyone!
@EVDiscoveriesАй бұрын
What makes you think they are so bad?
@rpsmithАй бұрын
@@EVDiscoveries 1. because the government is forcing them on everyone. 2. our electrical grid is already in trouble. 3. they are driving everyone's car and home insurance premiums up. 4. they are a fire hazard and can't be extinguished. 5. when the battery reaches EOL the entire car will end up in the scrap yard. 6. they are very expensive to repair and very few shops can even work on them. 7. they cause more road damage and eat tires up. and this is just a short list of the problems.
@EVDiscoveriesАй бұрын
@@rpsmith You might want to look into it a bit further. 1. 1he government isn't forcing anyone to drive an ev. You want a gas car? Drive a gas car. 2. Electrical grid will be supported and stabilized by EVs (look up V2G). 3. EVs are safe and do not drive up insurance rates. Not sure where that idea even comes from? 4. Gas cars catch fire at a rate of 1,529 fires per 100,000 vehicles, compared to 25 fires per 100,000 EVs. When it does happen, yes they are harder to extinguish. New EV batteries will be even safer. 5. End of life? Over 95% of battery materials are recovered profitably and used for new batteries. You burn oil once. 6. EVs are far, far cheaper to maintain. No changing oil, filters, spark plugs, transmission fluid , radiator coolant and brakes last a very long time etc. 7. EVs do NOT cause excessive road damage. The most popular selling EV weighs less than an F-150 (the most common vehicle ever). and these are only a few of the benefits to EV ownership. Hope this helps.
@laurentallenguerardАй бұрын
39:00 About gas tax, in 2016 Quebec liberal party gave 1.7 M $ to Suncor from the "green fund".
@connieblixhavnАй бұрын
We live on a farm.in southern Manitoba, people do not believe that our F150 Lightning can work on the farm. We have proven them.wrong over and over today the guys used the trucks to plug their tractors into overnight so they could utilize the tractor to load grain onto the trucks. They also used it to tow a stuck semi out of the field. So many uses on the farm.
@flashsushi1843Ай бұрын
Just waiting for battery longevity data points, and/or better battery warranties , and/or even just extended batteries and/or reasonable OEM battery pack replacement costs. I have a 14 y.o. ICEV bought new and a 13 y.o. HEV, bought off a friend in 2020, and can't wait for batteries that last 16 years, at a minimum. I don't care about the additional premium as long the BEV can outlast ICEVs or HEVs. If it can't, what's the point aside from cleaner air (very important though not enough to entice most to switch)?
@EVDiscoveriesАй бұрын
Battery warranties are already better than combustion engine warranties. They are a minimum of 8 years!
@diydrivenGAАй бұрын
Decades of subsidies as investments for oil companies and yet a refinery infrastructure is extremely out of date and can't even refine heavy crude to the point where our oil that we extract has to be sold because we can't find it and we have to buy like crew to bring in. make it make sense
@johnmoniz3169Ай бұрын
I sometimes hear that someone doesn't want to be inconvenienced by having to wait for a charge on the road. I usually say one of two things: 1) I explain that the average person spends 8 hours per year holding on to a gas pump nozzle (US data). Are they willing to make numerous trips to the gas station to save the odd charge on the road, which typically only takes 20 minutes or so? 2) To save the odd inconvenience, are you willing to contribute to the problem that is putting thousands of people with chronic breathing issues in the hospital, where some don't even survive?
@diydrivenGAАй бұрын
@johnmoniz3169 I agree with your points. For me I just tell them it's a different way of refueling and it needs to be treated as such much more like a cell phone or a laptop then say your older ice car. And yes it does take a while to charge using level 1 specially and even level 2 depending on how you manage your battery during the week,, but typically you really don't want to discharge your battery all the way down to 20% or lower you want to keep it to be shallow charges again similar to how I use a cell phone. So I plug in at night and don't think about it until the next day or I might go to a 2 days without charging and in charge of a destination. Once you get used to the new way of charging and fueling your vehicle you really will get past the whole range anxiety concept and it won't be that much of a big deal. And you are correct after decades of driving in cars for my job that requires me to be on the road a lot and also in modifying my previous cars where you know sometimes they were fumes that came into the cabin now that I drive an EV it's kind of like when I quit smoking and I realize how much damage I've done to myself and everyone around me with the exhausting fumesbut they can be clean and cleaner when you consider that they get cleaner as the grid gets cleaner. So rather than dealing with the oil lobbies which are really hard to negotiate with as they pretty much owned congress, there's more of a chance for consumers to press energy companies to become cleaner to invest more into the infrastructure which they have been doing for decades
@hippie-io7225Ай бұрын
I was told by someone that EV's emit harm full radio waves from the motor and control electronics. I responded by explaining the concept of shielding, using the common microwave oven as an example.
@EVDiscoveriesАй бұрын
Tinfoil hats work too (-;
@hippie-io7225Ай бұрын
@@EVDiscoveries The TF hats have more style
@steelbruin1Ай бұрын
People say EVs cost more than ice vehicles and in some cases yes. I let people know that I bought my ioniq 6 used 1 year old, sold my ioniq hybrid and ended up paying less for my 2023 model than I did for my hybrid in 2018. Research and be patient and you can get a very good deal.
@EVDiscoveriesАй бұрын
Very good advice!
@ElectricVehicleSociety14 күн бұрын
Hi @steelbruin1 Could you reach out to Tim Burrows at EV Society for a update on our myth contest?
@steelbruin1Ай бұрын
Horse and buggy generation said the gas automobile was just a fad, computers were just a novelty, smart phones were just sci-fi gimmicks. My point is that things change regardless of whether you want to come along for the ride. Dont like an ev, dont get one, you can stay in the past if you want, just don't break a leg trying to jump on the bandwagon later on.
@madlucio70Ай бұрын
Writing up a mail briefly describing my experience in get lvl 2 charging in my multi-level condo.
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
Excellent. Looking forward to it.
@madlucio70Ай бұрын
@@ElectricVehicleSociety I just sent the mail. Thank you again for all of the great content.
@steelbruin1Ай бұрын
I think I have heard all the myths but am willing to be proved wrong. From it takes forever to charge to you can't go on a long road trip. After talking to people with logic and facts I often hear, yeah but there are not enough chargers around, showing them an app with just the local chargers makes them back off that myth.
@ElectricVehicleSocietyАй бұрын
Well, I hope you will take a moment to give us your best 'come back' to some of those. You could be helping others understand the facts.
@steelbruin1Ай бұрын
I had a past co-worker tell me that it costs more to run my ioniq-6 than his small gas car. I told him I can plug in at home overnight on a 110 plug in and it costs me $1.40 to get enough "fuel" to drive for 2 days. That works out to about 15 km for you.
@MR-vj8dnАй бұрын
I have no garage, but it's still more convenient than needing to drive somewhere to refill.
@jonrico79372 ай бұрын
DR Dahn is a rock star! I could listen to him for hours and always look forward to his presentations! Thanks so much!
@ElectricVehicleSociety5 күн бұрын
Agreed! We feel the same way and hope to have him back in 2025.
@brandonswan92472 ай бұрын
Bravo. Beaitiful presentation.
@johnbrion45652 ай бұрын
Is it better to go from 80% to 30% before charging each time to reduce charge cycles? My commute to work is so short I’d be charging every day from 75% to 80% if I charge daily. My friend said it’s better to wait until it drops low to reduce number of charge cycles over the life of the battery.
@JohnRoss12 ай бұрын
6:00 the fact sheet and dialogue mismatches kWh for kW for charge speed and battery size should be in kWh. Probably corrected during the webcast.
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
Good catch. Yes, it looks like a typo.
@decimal18152 ай бұрын
So - storing your NMC EV battery at 10% SOC is good?? What about storing the battery at less than 10% SOC?
@decimal18152 ай бұрын
How do we find out what chemistry of battery is used in our EV battery? Are there good online resources to help with this?
@ElectricVehicleSociety5 күн бұрын
Excellent question. For now, I think the manufacturer will provide this information, but it might take a little effort by the consumer to get it.
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
Have a nice day.
@paulaubin5102 ай бұрын
It's good to see the CEO ofaboard driving a Chinese EV. Let's not forget Ford has closed it's pick up plant in Ontario as well as another EV plant in the United States
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
It’s certainly disappointing that Ford has had to scale back its electric pickup rollout. I hope they can turn that around soon.
@Blue-moon122 ай бұрын
How does Rocky do in the winter months? Here in Alberta it can get very cold haha
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
They’ve recently left Alaska and you could ask them yourself on the webinar.
@SupposeKennethed2 ай бұрын
Isn't this the quoran poser who spergs out on every conservatives that tries to challenge him on any topic with sensible arguments?
@ftdadtrucker56722 ай бұрын
Best thing you could do is avoid the headache altogether by not buying a pos EV.
@ElectricVehicleSociety2 ай бұрын
That is certainly an option that is available to everybody... but then remember you will need to deal with a few other 'headaches' like oil changes, oil filter replacements, spark plug replacements, fuel filter replacements, air filter replacements, timing belt replacements and potentially other serpentine & drive belt replacements. Since you will be paying more than 4 times as much to fuel your car, you will want to keep that engine properly tuned.
@ftdadtrucker56722 ай бұрын
@ Pure nonsense. I have a maintenance package on my Hemi for ten years. Plus there’s no risk of it burning my house down while I sleep. Not to mention now that I’ve replaced my ECM and BCM with something aftermarket nobody can remotely shut my veg off against my will. Get lost with your idiocy.
@richardivity85482 ай бұрын
I can't believe we're at a point where there are so many types of charging technologies we can use to drive throughout the country! Amazing. BC Hydro is doing great work
@TheTangodog2 ай бұрын
We wont be consuming petrol. Just coffee.😢
@ElectricVehicleSociety2 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@richardivity85482 ай бұрын
We did have coffee mate...I think that's petroleum based??
@ElectricVehicleSociety2 ай бұрын
@@richardivity8548 A delicious edible oil product!
@stevedolby18192 ай бұрын
Like the title says it's So Convenient! Plus you you have a full tank/ charge every morning !
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@lean_sumek2 ай бұрын
Great 😊😚☺️
@EVDiscoveries2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm still new at creating these 'shorts'.
@lean_sumek2 ай бұрын
@@EVDiscoveries 🤣🤣🤣
@oliverwells73422 ай бұрын
Plus the fact that an ev is less friendly to the environment than an ice until it’s been driven for at least 50k miles.
@richardmenz32572 ай бұрын
So what is best to do if you can charge at home but no drive for plug so you wanna charge once a week. Would changing van of 20 to 75 be best or 30 to 85 so forth n so on.
@derLenus3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge to us!
@ElectricVehicleSociety3 ай бұрын
We were fortunate to have Dr. Dahn join us for these webinars.