have you guys experianced any issues with these style lockers on an AWD system? I have a toyota I use for offroad, its not a daily, but does drive long distances to the trails. the center diff is an LSD style. this won't negatively effect any of that?
@TorqMastersIndustriesКүн бұрын
@ckli5768 we don't recommend our style of locker with TOYOTA AWD systems. It's fine with Subaru's however.
@ckli5768Күн бұрын
@@TorqMastersIndustries Thank you for letting me know, out of curiosity, how come these don't work well with Toyota AWD systems?
@jesseplzАй бұрын
Do you have a vid with a Torq front and rear?
@corajokinen253Ай бұрын
We don't have a Jeep JL video of a front and rear locker, but we could shoot one. We don't have a rear locker available for the JL rear axle, but we do have them for older Jeeps.
@jesseplzАй бұрын
@@corajokinen253 i have an XJ amyway
@MichaelSanders-z7pАй бұрын
Does this same test work for Spartan lockers?
@corajokinen253Ай бұрын
Yes it does
@MaxwellTaylor-q5iАй бұрын
"..so there's no stress on the brake line" *hangs it on the brake line*
@shawnheyland4931Ай бұрын
Tips for removing a stuck sundial? 8:21
@TorqMastersIndustriesАй бұрын
Yes, you can buy our sundial tool to help remove it. torqmasters.com/product/sundial-tool-for-subaru-va2-type-differentials/
@ioanbugheanu68362 ай бұрын
So how does this diff differentiate (lol) between low traction wheel differential and turning wheel differential? Still wrapping my head around it.
@TorqMastersIndustries2 ай бұрын
@ioanbugheanu6836 the locker sends torque to both wheel, no matter the traction level. When coasting and turning the locker can ratchet to allow for wheel speed differentiation.
@mirrorlessthesis35992 ай бұрын
Are the Lockers on all the time?
@TorqMastersIndustries2 ай бұрын
It depends. A front locker in a 4wd vehicle is not engaged in 2wd. A rear locker in a AWD vehicle like the Subaru is engaged all the time but it doesn't have 100% torque to the rear differential. A rear locker in a 2WD or 4WD vehicle is always engaged. This style of locker allows for wheel speed differentiation and it does this by ratcheting.
@bikeboatboard3 ай бұрын
I can confirm that the parking lot at Eastview is indeed a good place to do donuts.
@josuemartinezmtz3 ай бұрын
I have a jeep JK is it nosier since it’s an older model? My jeep came with a lunchbox locker installed already when I bought the jeep unaware of the brand installed but it clicks super loud when doing basic turns Thinking of getting a torq locker instead and see if it makes a difference
@TorqMastersIndustries3 ай бұрын
Many things external to the locker can cause the locker to be louder in one vehicle vs another vehicle. That's why we shot this video in a stock jeep. After we lifted this jeep and changed wheel offset the clicking in 2wd went away completely.
@trolzealot86353 ай бұрын
My Land Cruiser Prado 98 diesel has the H=High speed box (70% power in the rear, 30% in the front) HL= High speed Lock Differential (50% rear, 50% forward) LL= Low speed Lock Differential (for extreme conditions), is it possible to install TORQ Locker??
@TorqMastersIndustries3 ай бұрын
We would not recommend a front axle locker because you don't have 2wd for on the road driving.
@timgarcia62714 ай бұрын
What is a realistic time frame to do the whole job? Two people working and one is a mechanic.
@corajokinen2534 ай бұрын
3 hours is realistic. Make sure you have the special socket before getting started. A mechanic will probably have the socket.
If I install TORQ Locker, can I still use x mode? don't know if I'd need it but curious.
@TorqMastersIndustries5 ай бұрын
Yes you can still use X mode, and we do when we are offroading in deep mud.
@georgeegee77475 ай бұрын
how much would it cost me if i have it install by someone else ?
@TorqMastersIndustries5 ай бұрын
Depending on the condition of the vehicle and any corrosion, install on a Subaru should take about 2 to 3 hours. Any 4x4 shop should be able to install the locker.
@Cotasgarage7 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 tacoma i wanted to put this in. But one company selling your locker said if installing in a 4.0l 05-15 i would have to change my carrier to a 2.7l carrier from a 3rd gen? Shouldnt it work in all carriers for 05-up?
@berserkerusmc76137 ай бұрын
So, what are the chances of you guys coming out with an electrically selectable locker?
@trevorewaskow48027 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 commander xt 1000. How can I get a torq locker for it.
@TorqMastersIndustries7 ай бұрын
You can order directly from our website. Here's a link to the model you need torqmasters.com/product/torq-locker-tl-canam-front-differential-locker/
@dylanwaldun88907 ай бұрын
I have a 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 with a center axle shaft disconnect will this cause my drive shaft to spend
@Lord_Stinkfoot8 ай бұрын
Wish I was smart enough to do this. My '24 OBW would love it
@TorqMastersIndustries8 ай бұрын
Have you checked out our Subaru Wilderness Install video? We break down every step for the install, it's pretty easy with normal tools. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYesoXZ4e96AmrM
@jordan7210018 ай бұрын
I was looking to add this to my 06 WRX. Instead of a LSD. I understand it's noisy, but not really worried about that. My biggest concern is street driveability. This car is a daily
@TorqMastersIndustries8 ай бұрын
Most of the 06 WRX's have a viscous limited slip rear differential - our lockers won't work with that case. You would need to swap in a used 5 Bolt style R-160 with matching gear ratio to run our locker. Our lockers are designed for on and off road use, most of our customers install in daily drivers.
@A11ium8 ай бұрын
Have been driving around a few weeks now with one in the rear in my Impreza. Went from open to spool to this. Works fantastic! Car is almost the same on pavement as a regular diff. The locker can't be heard. Only a few times I have felt/heard it "clunk" but nothing... nothing compared to my old Lock Right in my Jimny. That thing was horrible on pavement. Unpredictable. With this the car does not push/understeer as a spool. Spool made the car go from understeer to oversteer in blink of an eye. Off road. It just works. Like the spool. Theoretically it should not be as good because of the slight delay but so far I haven't noticed. Maybe I need to do some more rocks? The bad thing buying of one these is... that now I want one for the front too! It that possible? TorqMastersIndustries ?
@TorqMastersIndustries8 ай бұрын
It's a lot of work to put a TORQ Locker in the front of a Subaru, and we don't recommend it for on-road driving if you are only AWD - too much wear and tear on the front CV's. Customers have done it however.
@jamesg82468 ай бұрын
I know this is marketed towards the oof road people, but will this behave well in a 2017 WRX with manual trans and with stock open rear diff? Or do I need something tuned for a street car? Like will it play nice with the DSC/VSD or whatever its called that these cars come with that uses the rear brakes to control the open diff behavior?
@TorqMastersIndustries8 ай бұрын
You can certainly install one of our lockers if the fitment matches our offerings. It looks like you have a 5 Bolt style rear differential. We have heard from track racing guys that they don't like the additional backlash the locker adds, but you adjust your driving style to account for this. Traction control is not affected by the locker because there is no wheel slippage sensed by the system.
@NiNjaTurtLe6978 ай бұрын
Do the lockers work for a 2wd? Or even better question: the rav4 "4wd" system..
@TorqMastersIndustries8 ай бұрын
The Rav4 differentials are not suitable for this style of locker. They are cast aluminum and can crack.
@pastorrobertsackett22258 ай бұрын
Is there any difference in fuel mileage ?
@corajokinen2538 ай бұрын
We have not noticed any change in fuel mileage.
@kmarshall10259 ай бұрын
Do you have a rear auto locker with the same fitment for Tacoma?
@corajokinen2539 ай бұрын
We do not currently have one for the rear axle application
@Eric-qu2vp9 ай бұрын
These lockers cause the front drive shaft to spin at all times when moving even in 2wd. Will this damage the transfer case having the drive shaft spin while not engaged in 4wd?
@corajokinen2539 ай бұрын
@Eric-qu2vp No, the locker will not cause any issues with the transfer case.
@banzaiib9 ай бұрын
94 ZJ here... If i put one of these in my front diff (d30), and run in 2wd, will i feel anything at all aside from a little ratcheting noise? In other words, is it "open" until torque is applied through the pinion gear? Ideally, in my head, i'd have open diff up front until i engage 4-high / low on the transfer case, then it'd pretty much be locked... but I'd really prefer to install one of these instead of the alternatives (locking hubs and welded diff or $1k ox locker).
@TorqMastersIndustries9 ай бұрын
@banzaiib you are correct, the locker will only lock when torque is applied via the drive shaft/transfer case in 4wd hi and low. Likely you won't hear any ratcheting in 2wd, but if you do it will be slight. Dana 30's are our most popular selling model for the reasons you listed.
@קסםזעירא5 ай бұрын
But I don't understand how to recognize it if it engaged. The wheels should spin in the same direction ?
@kiberegor58609 ай бұрын
Is TORQ Locker compatible with Outlander 2023 DPS (Visco-Loc QE)?
@TorqMastersIndustries9 ай бұрын
Yes, the TORQ Locker is compatible with every Visco-Lok from 2007 to today
@jamesmeadrs930910 ай бұрын
Is there any problem going downhill off-road?
@TorqMastersIndustries10 ай бұрын
No problems going down hill at all. Only thing to note is when all of the weight of the vehicle is on the front axle it may be a bit harder to steer when rock crawling.
@jamesmeadrs93099 ай бұрын
Thank you! I will be getting one soon!
@calfolkionized10 ай бұрын
Great video! Wondering do you guys do installs?
@corajokinen25310 ай бұрын
@calfolkionized we do not do installs at our shop, but any 4x4 shop should be able to install our style of locker.
@averym55310 ай бұрын
When installing the torq locker did you replace any bearings or seals? If so is there a kit I can buy?
@Kiss__Kiss10 ай бұрын
What octane rating do you use? Meaning, are you still using regular gas, post lift and rear locker? or would it be more advantageous to use 91 octane? Also, is there a build sheet on this OB Wilderness? Liked the video, and subscribed to your channel.
@corajokinen25310 ай бұрын
We use regular gas. We go through the build at the beginning of the video. Happy to help with any questions you have.
@Kiss__Kiss10 ай бұрын
@@corajokinen253 Right. I just figured there was something jotted down on virtual paper, a website of some sorts. Either way, thank you for answering my question. 👍
@Bertinator-nm9ld9 ай бұрын
Octane is going to be dependent on engine design and ECU tuning. The rest of a vehicle's drivetrain shouldn't have any impact on fuel requirements. Octane's main use is for preventing engine knock.
@51249ca10 ай бұрын
Nobody puts their full driving lights on in these types of conditons?
@jamespolucha879010 ай бұрын
I tried a trail just like this on a motorcycle and now have two bad knees, I knew I shouldn’t have tried it
@Andrew-jh5uv11 ай бұрын
Like the product do you hear the clicking when daily tarmac driving?
@TorqMastersIndustries11 ай бұрын
Any audible clicking varies by vehicle. Our Wilderness is nearly silent. TORQ Lockers in Subaru's are generally very quiet.
@Andrew-jh5uv11 ай бұрын
@@TorqMastersIndustries done. 👍👍
@samzilla105011 ай бұрын
How would this work in soft sand for example like the beaches of long island
@TorqMastersIndustries11 ай бұрын
Works great, both rear tires will always spin when throttle is applied. In sand it's important to air down as well.
@sarahcrowley47011 ай бұрын
I am collin
@joshlopez991311 ай бұрын
Before I make the jump, do you need to run a gear pattern? does pinion depth need to be adjusted after installation?
@TorqMastersIndustries11 ай бұрын
No, you don't have to adjust backlash at all. You don't touch the pinion. That's the beauty of this type of locker, easy to install. We like to say, if you can change the brakes on a car, you have the mechanical ability to install a TORQ Locker.
@joshlopez991311 ай бұрын
@@TorqMastersIndustries How does the TORQ locker affect daily drivability? Just Keep it in 2hi? Toyota does recommend putting my Tacoma in 4hi once a month to keep things lubricated. Im just concerned if having the front diff locked while driving will cause any issues. Thanks for the replies
@TorqMastersIndustries11 ай бұрын
@@joshlopez9913 Normal daily driving in 2WD will feel the same as an open differential, no lock up at all in 2WD. You can use 4WD with a front locker on the road if needed in deep snow. One of your front axle shafts is always turning, that keeps things lubricated. I don't see a need to shift into 4wd once a month, we don't do that with any of our vehicles.
@dennisjanwolterding384 Жыл бұрын
My concern with putting in the Torq-locker on my new Subaru Forester Wilderness is that it will void my warranty as a third-party unapproved enhancement. Any experience,with this.
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
We can't comment on Subaru's warranty, that's their call, not ours. If there ever was a warranty issue you could remove the locker prior to bringing it in for drive train specific service work.
@powerofyourbrains Жыл бұрын
Nice 🤘🤘
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys!
@deporbs Жыл бұрын
Does it fit new CanAm 2023 XMR 700 (red one) ?
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
What model Can-Am do you have? Maverick, Commander, Outlander, etc?
@deporbs Жыл бұрын
Outlander 700 xmr (new red one, 2023 model)
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
@@deporbs thanks for the additional info. Our locker will not work with your front diff. Looks like you have the 4Lok front diff. Our locker only works with the ViscoLok front diff.
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
We always had to put studded tires on our Toyota AWD vehicles, but we just use Michelin Cross Climate tires for year round driving. We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. We also live 5 miles up in the mountains from town and 25 miles from the city. We have to plow and maintain our private road ourselves. The county road to our road is usually the last one to get plowed, so it can be difficult at times to get into the city. When we bought both of our Subie’s we drove on the factory tires until they wore out. I must admit that we have to put our Subie’s into Xmode just to get up our road and into our garage. I would like to know if the rear lockers cause the tires to wear out more quickly. We have a Lot of “S” curves between our house and town. Subie’s tend to go through tires quicker than any other vehicle we’ve ever owned and it seems like the rear locker’s would eat up tires more quickly because when going around curves the inside tire is spinning faster than the outside tire.
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
@Doc1855 the TORQ Locker has no noticeable affect on tire wear. With a TORQ Locker your rear wheels will spin at different speeds and prevent scrubbing. You turn left and right so the wear will be even.
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
@@TorqMastersIndustries Thank you !
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
It’s too bad that Subaru doesn’t install a switch so that we can lock the rear axle on our Subie’s from factory.
@willba42 ай бұрын
VW had that a few years back in the toureg
@veganpotterthevegan12 күн бұрын
@willba4 plenty of cars do that. This is about the Subaru😂
@willba412 күн бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan you can install a real rear diff lock for very little money on the subaru.
@veganpotterthevegan12 күн бұрын
@willba4 yes, I'm just saying that a lot of vehicles have a switch/button for locking their rear diffential. This doesn't have a switch.
@cameronwingate7477 Жыл бұрын
I’m assuming this may affect your stability control system or antilock brakes or traction control especially if the vehicle is equipped with brake actuated limited slip I could be totally wrong just figured I’d ask the question
@tractiontogoanywhere660 Жыл бұрын
No, the locker does not affect any of these systems. There is never a rear slipping wheel, so none of these systems engage regarding the rear driveline.
@imnotacrook529810 ай бұрын
@@tractiontogoanywhere660 - thanks for the reply, this was my question as well.
@weatherornotsubaru Жыл бұрын
How do these handle on a Subaru Ascent? Does the weight of the Ascent affect the locker's ability or longevity? Also, does it increase any strain on the Ascent's overall AWD and CVT systems? I'm about to have Rallitek install one on our 2023 Subaru Ascent.
@corajokinen253 Жыл бұрын
How do these handle on a Subaru Ascent? - Great, just like in the video here Does the weight of the Ascent affect the locker's ability or longevity? - no, not one bit Also, does it increase any strain on the Ascent's overall AWD and CVT systems? - no, it helps I'm about to have Rallitek install one on our 2023 Subaru Ascent. - They are a great company to work with and very experienced installers!
@SubaruAmbassadorRobert11 ай бұрын
@weatherornotsubaru, I can confirm everything @@corajokinen253 says above. I've got 10,000 miles on my locker right now, in my Ascent, and I just beat the utter heck out of it all over Utah, Nevada and Colorado.
@fredastaire6156 Жыл бұрын
how do you get the traction control light to turn off after you install the locker?
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
The locker will not cause a traction control light to turn on. During the install it's easy to damage an ABS sensor or stretch or pinch the abs wire.
@fredastaire6156 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Forester; my instructions did not say to use the red thread locker; did I screw this up somehow?
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
In the video we show best practices, it's ok if you didn't use thread locker, as long as your torqued the ring gear bolts properly.
@DeSilver215 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Subaru come with these autolockers from the factory? It's something I thought full-time all wheel drive means.
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
The Subaru drivetrain drives 1 front tire and 1 rear tire. If you lift a tire all the torque will go to the tire in the air and you will loose forward momentum - but not with a locker! Same with a slipping tire. Subaru has a traction control system that tries to combat this but it's not as reliable or predictable as a locker.
@Bertinator-nm9ld9 ай бұрын
Same reason most cars come with open differentials. Cost. They're fairly expensive, and will increase the overall price of the vehicle. Full time AWD just means that the system never shuts off. The vehicle is always trying to send power to all four wheels, even when there's plenty of traction to be had. Part time AWD systems primarily drive only the front or rear axle, and only send power to the other axle when low traction situations are encountered.
@DeSilver215 Жыл бұрын
Cool video! Exactly what I was wondering! One more thing I wanted to know is how does effect the fuel consumption? And tyre wear over time on regular conditions ?
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
A locker has negligible fuel consumption and tire wear. Tire wear also depends on driving style and tire.
@SubaruAmbassadorRobert Жыл бұрын
I am at 9,000+ miles on my locker, cross country and off-roading, in a much heavier (than an Outback) Ascent that's very sensitive to anything that impacts fuel economy. I haven't noticed any negative impact at all.
@forester_overland_nz Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I understand the locker ALWAYS locks when you apply throttle. I'm a bit worried when I drive on an uphill-turn that the locker would be fighting the turn. I have a Torq locker for my Subaru but I have not installed it yet.
@TorqMastersIndustries Жыл бұрын
The additional traction gained by a locker far outweighs any slight understeer it can add. We haven't had any Subaru customers remove their locker due to understeer. I would go ahead and install it and hit the trails, it's a game changer!
@SubaruAmbassadorRobert Жыл бұрын
I don't have a Foz or OB - I have an Ascent - so, there is a weight difference (I'm a half ton or more heavier). I can say that the locker is barely noticeable on road after the first few thousand miles I put on it. And as for off-road, very worth it. If you watch my recent vids (August 2023-Sept 2023 publish dates) you will see other Subies spinning and locking opposite rear wheels on terrain where mine locked them together and clawed up things easily. The first thousand miles, the locker was a little louder. Note, I didn't say loud - it wasn't loud. More like a light "click click click click" on turns, like in Torq-Masters' video. Every now and then, in slow maneuvering in a parking lot with tightly turned wheels (eg, backing up and going forward with the wheels sharply turned), it would make one or two characteristic clunks of the old school lockers, but that stopped happening after a few thousand miles as well. If you do silly adventures like I do, I think you'll love it. 🤩 This winter, I will be testing it out in the snow and on ice - I expect, even weighing in at as much as 6,000 pounds (2,721 kg), my Ascent should be well behaved.