What climbing rope and saddle system are you using?
@echocall2 күн бұрын
What knot do you use to tie the loop on the end of your half-line? Bowline?
@NYSaddleHunterКүн бұрын
@@echocall yes
@seanreid73134 күн бұрын
Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing. It's very flat where I live and I've ever only rock climbed inside a gym. This is cool to see single line climbing being used in tree hunting, never thought of that. I'll be making changes for the end of this season and for next!
@RipWheelen5 күн бұрын
absolutley not. way too big, way too heavy, way too much metal. My polymer ring of steps is none of those things and makes 360 shot opportunities much easier. I can keep the tree between me and the deer no matter where he comes in.
@5nuccs6 күн бұрын
Then you’re really not mobile. Having to preset your paracord. We don’t want to leave any evidence in public land.
@NYSaddleHunter6 күн бұрын
@@5nuccs I have no problem. And it makes me super mobile
@NYSaddleHunter6 күн бұрын
@@5nuccs I also throw in on the fly as well .
@5nuccs6 күн бұрын
@@NYSaddleHunter in the dark in the winter?
@NYSaddleHunter6 күн бұрын
You don’t have to throw only in dark , winter no problem. You guys need to think outside the box and stop being so narrow minded
@5nuccs6 күн бұрын
@ I want to throw in the dark. Why is that narrow minded?
@ztkrx7 күн бұрын
knut hitch is almost identical to the arbsession hitch.
@ztkrx7 күн бұрын
that must be for just hanging in the same spot for a long period of time, cause why else would you do double redundancy unless you’re staying put.
@NYSaddleHunter7 күн бұрын
@@ztkrx 👍. Of the 3 mechanical devices we climb on : Vergo , Gri Gri + , Madrock None of these should be used without some kind of backup especially while being stationary, for a long period of time .
@Eaaatlife8 күн бұрын
Is the vergo the same as the madrock? I notice with madrocks people tend the rope with their right hand as they pull the lever with their left hand. But with the vergo they don’t tend the rope with their right hand.
@curtchanning50748 күн бұрын
Hey Scott I like your channel.I was wondering how do you gain confidence in you rope when you climb.That is the problem I have
@NYSaddleHunter8 күн бұрын
@@curtchanning5074 do everything a few ft. off the ground til your comfortable , then move higher . Eventually you’ll realize what you can do at 2 ft , you can do at 22 ft . If you’re feeling uneasy at hunting height double up . Run a short tether with your climbing line . Stay connected to both. 2 points of connection should put you at ease . Take your time and execute each step proficiently .
@reelhighmedia91610 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how you explain and demonstrate each piece of gear. Too many channels people will use gear but never show you in detail how to use it, how to connect it, and how it works. So thank you for a real video!
@TristanKing93010 күн бұрын
What diameter rope did you use with this rope wrench? Does it work thinner than 11mm spec?
@Zac-SquatchFamilyOutdoors11 күн бұрын
I have to admit the thought of climbing a rope at 6’5” and 250lbs with size 16 boots had me feeling skeptical, but I got sooooo tired of carrying in sticks and having them hang off of me as I ascend so I pulled the trigger and ordered this system. I have looked at the parts individually, there really isn’t much mark up on this. Additionally id rather trust someone who stands behind their product and has put in countless hours of research to find us the best info. Hats off to you fellas! This is great!!!!
@NYSaddleHunter11 күн бұрын
@@Zac-SquatchFamilyOutdoors Thanks Brother, Appreciate the feedback. Good luck 🦌
@BassBomber11 күн бұрын
was just wondering if I could use a prussic or other friction knot and tend with the carabiner instead of the vargo
@NYSaddleHunter11 күн бұрын
@@BassBomber No ! , I designed this system to be so smooth and easy to do. There’s definitely more than one way to climb a rope . There’s just not IMO an easier , lightweight , compact more efficient way to do it , all the while using a Safe , Quiet and Effective Method !!!
@2cthetruth13 күн бұрын
I find it hard enough to find that perfect tree for one sticking based on where the deer are expected to be. With this method, you really dont have many options. Yes there are thousands of tree this will work in in your woods, but there is only one or two trees that are in a perfect position for the spot you are actually hunting. Usually, those trees are not perfectly suited for this method.
@2cthetruth13 күн бұрын
Won’t work in a swamp with skinny trees. Won’t work with trees that are crooked or canted to far one way or another. Really a limited set up.
@harveyrousejr.206913 күн бұрын
I just ordered one last night. Looking forward to giving it a climb.
@NeverDunnFishing14 күн бұрын
You did a great job explaining this. I have been scared of repelling, but the redundancy you explained eases my mind. I’ve been using a 2tc for this season, but having a preset would be awesome. Will be ordering.
@NYSaddleHunter14 күн бұрын
@@NeverDunnFishing 👍. Full kits will be available in a week
@dorsonhess480518 күн бұрын
Whats it like wearing the saddle with hunting bibs jacket ect? And with it is there a pinch in the hips?
@NYSaddleHunter18 күн бұрын
@@dorsonhess4805 could easily fit into a size one . I’m a 36 “ waist. 6’4” 220 But I chose a size 2 because I live in New York where typically we get pretty cold by mid November, with the occasional 20s even a few times in October. The 2 affords me more wiggle room when I pack on cold weather gear . Hip pinch and leg pinch are not an issue in a CGM Cobra Saddle , early through late season , a few hours or all day sits . I’m as comfortable the 1st hour as I am the last hour of my sit. I prefer Bibs over Pants , Mid or late season.
@dorsonhess480518 күн бұрын
@NYSaddleHunter Thank you, I live in the poconos. I'm 5'9 200 pnds. It's cold here. I'm new to saddle hunting jist doing my research. I think I'm going to order one I like he's a vet and American owned.
@NYSaddleHunter18 күн бұрын
@@dorsonhess4805 He’s the Salt of the Earth, Great Guy . You can pick his brain. He’s full of knowledge. One of the few fabricators who really understands how to build a comfortable Saddle. He does alot of custom work as well . Good luck . Hit me up any time 👍 www.customgearmodifications.com/
@dorsonhess480519 күн бұрын
From the Pocono Mtns of Pa. Thank you awsome video
@madhuntsadventures20 күн бұрын
Awesome video with great instruction. Thanks guys!
@LynnJynh931521 күн бұрын
I take my shots out limb-walking or toe-hooked, sometimes inverted like God intended.
@pickledcottoncandy23 күн бұрын
How would you rig around thw trunk from the ground in the event of a tall tree with no limbs low enough to tie to?
@birddog147923 күн бұрын
I see there's a different ascender on the website now for the MSD. is it the same exact process? Do you have a new video?
@NYSaddleHunter23 күн бұрын
@@birddog1479 same process, smoother and safer with vergo because we use a hitch cord in tandem with the vergo. Give us added redundancy . No I don’t have any new videos for MSD but plenty of references for the Vergo with the Halfline system and how to tie the hitch
@birddog147923 күн бұрын
@ thank you, sir!
@LibertyOrDeath723026 күн бұрын
What makes this better than the F4?
@NYSaddleHunter25 күн бұрын
@@LibertyOrDeath7230 the Vergo is much smoother both ascending and descending. Plus a lot easier to build added redundancy towards safety . You still have a system that weighs 3 lbs and fits inside a 10x9x3 zippered saddle bag
@j.johnson836026 күн бұрын
Defeats the purpose of using a saddle lol
@NYSaddleHunter25 күн бұрын
@@j.johnson8360 it was made for saddle hunting. You can side load it like a saddle platform .
@drewmcginn342226 күн бұрын
That chest pockets for a range finder and the mesh is so it don’t fog up 👍fanatic is nice
@LynnJynh931527 күн бұрын
This subject really needs a 102 video. Advanced Redirects. Yours is the only one I can find on this subject.
@matthewstruven483828 күн бұрын
I like the idea of this method but what I don’t like about this is how far away from the tree you are while climbing and the movement it takes to get there. This is quiet but it’s not necessarily stealthy. Lots of movement and we all know deer look for movement. Ive been busted while climbing with stick from movement alone. I’ve also been able to stop climbing on sticks because I saw deer coming close and not spook them. I think this has its place maybe early morning only when there is no light but the amount of movement is what kills it for me. Being close to the tree to hide movement is key when sneaking in midday or in the afternoon imo. It is a very informative video but like I said, it has its place. Also, I rarely hunt an area more than a few times a season. Im an extremely mobile hunter and I would need to keep either throw ball or double tether for this to work in every instance. Happy trails and best of luck this season.
@NoMMAdd_Soap28 күн бұрын
Just out of curiousity why do you not use a foot ascender anymore. I find mine makes it so easy to get up quickly
@NYSaddleHunter28 күн бұрын
@@NoMMAdd_Soap because this system is so easy to ascend, I don’t find it necessary. For me it’s just one less piece of equipment I need . For most it’s beneficial to use and makes it easier.
@AequitasSaintsАй бұрын
I used this hand ascender and belay device for the first time tonight. I noticed it's flattening my rope. Is that OK? I'm using the ghillie 9.5mm ripe from RNA. What are, if any, long term wear and tear affects of the flattening of the rope. I am assuming this wear and tear is much less significant than a friction abrasion from like a MRS style climb.
@terrycalvert7812Ай бұрын
Price of this thing is straight stupid high!! That thing should only be 100$ but today is the day and age of make something for 25$ and sell it for 380$! Rediculous!!
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@terrycalvert7812 I don’t build it or price it Terry . But I can tell you there’s nothing cheap about it . Also nothing cheap about running a business today. You want to find something cheap and risk your life with it be my guest . You’re in the wrong place my friend, you won’t find it here.
@terrycalvert7812Ай бұрын
@ I didn’t say it had to be cheap but you can buy a summit viper for the same price as this thing! All things equal the summit has 4 times the metal in it it has cushions cables the whole 9 yards and they can sell it for 399$ and this thing takes 1/5 the materials to build for the same price!!! Boils down to one thing!! Places charge way too much for stuff like this and I bet you would not have ran right out and bought one either if you had to pay that price for it!! Easy to tell everyone how great something is and how worth the price it is when you get it for free as long as you say good stuff about it!! Simply it is not worth what they are charging for it!!
@noneyabusiness6957Ай бұрын
After this season ends I’m going to start practicing the DRT method for next years season,sick of lugging in weight to climb a tree
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@noneyabusiness6957 👍 well DRT is good. SRT even better . Maybe that’s what you meant either way , good for you . Let me know . We’ll get you all hooked up 👍. Have a safe , successful season 🦌
@Gusnake07Ай бұрын
Appreciate your videos! Thank you!
@justinloupe8365Ай бұрын
Should post ur links on these videos make it easy to bring us straight to website
@upsaddlehunter533Ай бұрын
I use a Blake's hitch & foot ascender with no other hardware other than a single carabiner. Otherwise, very close to your system...but I do have to have 2x the rope length of the height I have to climb. I think I could combine your attach/detach system and drop that to 1.2x probably.. thought about it before but never got around to it.. might do so this season now that I've seen that it is indeed very effective. Dropping that extra weight would be huge for me. Also, I use 9mm rope and 5.11 tactical gloves for climbing...those ropes can tear your hands up, especially for my soft computer nerd hands, lol. Be sure to use static rope, dynamic sucks out a lot of the energy you put in while climbing...like on every pull.
@michaeldoll3505Ай бұрын
Love it! Very funny! Lots of love!
@marknice7337Ай бұрын
Nice wondering if you’ll ever review the sladder?
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@marknice7337 I’m pretty partial to climbing uninterrupted from ground to platform. Same reason I don’t prefer to one stick. It pretty innovative though, he definitely put some thought into it the way it releases and the bottom becomes the top .
@WIGSLYАй бұрын
I know you are well intentioned but no this is not safer. There are safe ways to use backup knots and create redundancy but some of what you’re doing could potentially stop you from self rescuing if something happens and you’re stuck on two prusiks or if you can’t get your tether loose. Always consider what would happen if you got stuck hanging how would you get out of it.
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@WIGSLY being that we’re always attached to a 40’ life line , that would be how we would self rescue in a life threatening situation. Even though we sometimes tranfer over to a short bridge are safety is never compromised being attached to two systems
@WIGSLYАй бұрын
@@NYSaddleHunter I’m always attached a repel length line as well. I choose to backup a different way because if your platform falls out from under you you want more than a mad rock to back you up. You do you but I wouldn’t advocate for people to use this method. I know because I’ve been stuck and had to cut my line and fall before.
@allangilbert7011Ай бұрын
If you're going to use that you might as well use a climber and be more comfortable and safer
@nickpalladino10Ай бұрын
As a safety guy in the tree world always check that tie in point if you can! Last thing you want it that branch union to be crappy when you put your weight on it!
@tylerrussell6276Ай бұрын
awesome tutorial and in depth breakdown of everything. going into first time climbing like this and the video was very educational.
@Mind_FuneralАй бұрын
You guys are cool 👍
@douglaspauley6115Ай бұрын
First year saddle hunting. Using SRT and loving it. What is the smallest limb you will put a girth hitch on?
@NYSaddleHunterКүн бұрын
@@douglaspauley6115 I tend to stick to the forearm size limb rule . And it’s positioned in the crotch of that limb which is stronger . If your ever at question on the integrity of your limb selection then go around the trunk of that union instead .
@mathewanderson2400Ай бұрын
Man that background music is distracting. Great info, but really hard to focus
@2cthetruth13 күн бұрын
Porno music
@nc_mtbmedic1399Ай бұрын
Looks good, gonna try it on my next hunt...have a tree in mind
@stevenl4494Ай бұрын
17:40 OPTION: Put the foot loop (you'll have to figure out how you want to do it) on the hand pull down loop or rope. With your foot you can auto tend the ascender when stepping up. No need to do it "manually ". A number of ways to do it...not everything needs to be COTS. FYI, I'm betting you can ditch the trango ($$) in the process. In fact I'm very sure of it. Just auto-tend the friction hitch. Rappel w/ the same hitch and a munter/figure 8.
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@stevenl4494 don’t bet on it . I tried it not as smooth. I’ll stick to what I’m doing, works fine !
@stevenl4494Ай бұрын
@@NYSaddleHunter I'm not asking anyone to change, do whatever you're comfortable with. But there's options. Literally did as described yesterday ... different feel, yes, but also felt effortless. Not completely sold on my back up knot and trango, but it works. For my own reasons I'd like to ditch the trango/madrock eventually. Believe a quick snap from Home Depot will help with that. Haven't tried it out yet. If it tends well, then I'll have achieved success. Love this system BTW, best there is IMO. Just "blending" it with aspects of others, component wise.
@NYSaddleHunterАй бұрын
@@stevenl4494 understandable, I also get the one stick route . Have one myself. My plan for this season is to use my stick as my primary platform due to ease of setup over a regular platform. Plus the other benefits of hanging cameras . I’m not much for going in blind to a spot I’ve never been before based off of maps . To many variables. Not opposed to using it to make a lateral move and if bears fruit, leave a preset if it warrants a return trip .
@stevenl4494Ай бұрын
@@NYSaddleHunter presets 💯 preferred. Yep, got out of the blind spot business long ago. But as you say, one's "system" needs to take advantage of deer activity out of range, that kind of sign 😬 needs to be exploited. Doesn't happen too often, but one cannot pass it up when it does.
@nc_mtbmedic1399Ай бұрын
That's the vt prusic
@richrappa7906Ай бұрын
Thanks pal
@1iving2di3Ай бұрын
That’s why you should always backup any mechanical device with a prusik knot.
@twen7ysevenАй бұрын
I was like "why is this guy whispering" and then I realized i got off my path of arborist videos lol!