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@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Күн бұрын
Wow. The creation of Climax locomotives was dramatic. You might be able to make a movie out of it! As per always, thanks a bunch for the amazingly informative video. See ya in the next one!
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Күн бұрын
Hi Weylin West. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching!!!!
@IckAck03
@IckAck03 10 күн бұрын
Love these detailed views of American locomotives. There are many railroads and classes; it's nice that your page focuses on them one at a time! Awesome video
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr 9 күн бұрын
Hi lckAck03. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!!!
@ktony
@ktony 12 күн бұрын
This is fascinating! Many thanks for all the details. I love the Shakespeare quote. I once had a minor role in a production of Twelfth Night.
@johnrhodes4007
@johnrhodes4007 16 күн бұрын
My family and I rode the Shay trains at Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia where logging then was vital for survival. A town was built around the railroad, and its all been restored for us to relive. The original houses of the town are rented out as motel rooms! It was a wonderful afternoon excursion and the Shays are such marvelous machines. I highly recommend Cass as a bucket list item for steam enthusiasts. As for your presentation. I know you're reading. PLEASE SLOW DOWN! I can't listen at light speed, and this is information I value. If this subject means something to you make me hear it in your reading. Take your time and EMOTE! Thank you
@bertspeggly4428
@bertspeggly4428 11 күн бұрын
You could play the video at .75 speed. It still sounds OK, and may fix your issue. The voice over has probably been done with AI, hence the lack of expression. Hope this helps.
@robsshop8704
@robsshop8704 18 күн бұрын
5:00 I’m happy to see my great grandpas train is gonna be around for an eternity
@krazyIncogneto
@krazyIncogneto 5 күн бұрын
Your grandpas? I’m 19 now, a big memory my family would go to pymatining every weekend from Pittsburgh the Greenville Museum being one of our stops every time I have so many memories pulling the bell
@robsshop8704
@robsshop8704 5 күн бұрын
@ back when the train was brand new he was the engineer for it under URR, he was also the last person that operated that train and he drove it there
@stepheneikenberry6626
@stepheneikenberry6626 25 күн бұрын
Outstanding! Thank you.
@williamsantangelo
@williamsantangelo 26 күн бұрын
Thank You Steve! Excellent History lesson on a fantastic logging locomotive
@jimp.7286
@jimp.7286 27 күн бұрын
There was a three truck heisler that sat for decades on cannery row in Monterey, CA. A man had planned to run a tourist ride back and forth along a section of the very scenic right of way that was still in use by the pacific railroad sand train that ran out to pebble beach. Locals and environmentalists put a stop to it so it sat and sadly became a toilet for bar patrons late at night and kids to play on during the day. They finally trucked it up to a rail museum/operation in redwood city for another couple decades. A few years ago it headed up to be restored at the Oregon Coast railway. Not sure about the current status though. Probably still in steam limbo as time makes bringing such things back to working rather pricey. Cheers.
@rossbryan6102
@rossbryan6102 27 күн бұрын
THE HEISLER LOCOMOTIVES MAY HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR AN REVOLUTIONARY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE! THE EARLY AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE WAS BUILT TO EARLY MOTORCYCLE DESIGN , USING CHAIN DRIVES, WITH THE ENGINE CRANKSHAFT BEING LAID SIDEWAYS ACROSS THE FRAME OF THE VEHICLE. BEHIND THE ENGINE, AND ALSO CROSSWAYS WAS THE CLUTCH AND TRANSMISSION ASSEMBLY! ON THE REAR AXLE WERE THE DRIVE SPROCKETS AND WHEELS , WITH ALL THE OTHER PARTS USING CHAIN DRIVE SIMILAR TO THE BICYCLES! UNFORTUNATELY ALL THIS CHAIN DRIVE WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF 6 OR 8 MOTORCYCLE CHAINS, TO LUBRICATE AND PROPERLY ADJUST! LOUIS SEMPLE CLARKE AN EARLY AMERICAN AUTOMOTIVE DESIGN ENGINEER, AND FOUNDER OF THE AUTOCAR CORPORATION MAY HAVE USED THE HEISLER DRIVELINE TECHNOLOGIES TO CREATE THE MODERN LONGITUDINAL ENGINE, CLUTCH, TRANSMISSION DRIVESHAFT, AND CENTER REAR DIFFERENTIAL DRIVELINE SYSTEM! THE AUTOCAR CORPORATION BUILT CARS AND TRUCK,THEN IN 1913 DISCONTINUED BUILDING AUTOMOBILES AND BUILT BETTER AND LARGER TRUCKS! TODAY, AUTOCAR CORPORATION IS THE OLDEST AUTOMOTIVE BRAND , STILL ACTIVE IN THE USA! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍
@tedthoman6580
@tedthoman6580 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for a great video, and for the way you make the story very listenable and understandable !
@tccarr7162
@tccarr7162 29 күн бұрын
Wil- la-mette, all short vowels and the final e is silent.
@gabrielbennett5162
@gabrielbennett5162 29 күн бұрын
I used to know a guy who was a Heisler engineer on the Sumter Valley Railway in Oregon.
@richardspalding3622
@richardspalding3622 Ай бұрын
There is a Japanese guy who as built a live stream model of the Shay a work of art and written a book in detail on its construction, they were clever old boys .
@DrFruikenstein
@DrFruikenstein Ай бұрын
I once fired a Heisler, and remain close to it. It's in Freeport, IL., and still occasionally runs. At the museum where the Heisler lives, my main love is the Cooper "Coreless" stationary engine, which also runs. In November, I'll be doing my part again by painting the interior walls of the main museum building along with a few other people.
@rudyjavurek2817
@rudyjavurek2817 Ай бұрын
Know a 84yr old veteran named Tom Hiesler in STL during dinner said i think it was was His great grandfather who invented this engine. Personally can't prove him wrong so simply saying. Himself being 84 isn't technically doing well.
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
Hi rudyjavurek2817. That's amazing. I can only imagine what was passed down through the family history about Charles Heisler. I hope things improve for this gentleman!! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
@ЛЬВИНИ
@ЛЬВИНИ Ай бұрын
Very nice, like
@robertedwards3147
@robertedwards3147 Ай бұрын
I own one just Walting on boiler cert should get it
@jhoncho4x4
@jhoncho4x4 Ай бұрын
One of these still operates at an entrance to Yellowstone National Park. You can see the train and rail yard without riding the train. I hung out there while waiting for the 5pm no reservation Yellowstone Park entrance deadline.
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 Ай бұрын
❤💪
@WavzonRox39
@WavzonRox39 Ай бұрын
Excellent! Thanks!
@b3j8
@b3j8 Ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks Man, I love these old geared locomotives photos! Wish I could go back in time and see each one at work!
@prsearls
@prsearls Ай бұрын
An interesting history lesson. There used to be a working Heisler at a museum in my local area. (It might still be running.) These were important locomotives and my second favorite after the Shay. The three-truck, four cylinder version must have been very powerful.
@1TruNub
@1TruNub Ай бұрын
I'll take 4501 over any other mikado.
@1TruNub
@1TruNub Ай бұрын
It sounds like the President of the Virginian railroad Was just telling the government to fuck off Which he's okay in my book. If that's the case.
@Tom-Lahaye
@Tom-Lahaye Ай бұрын
Another nice piece of history explained, I have seen the Heisler in NZ.
@Jdigger4130
@Jdigger4130 Ай бұрын
I love the geared jobs! THX fer the vids man! I Am a Shay guy but just dig em all! I live about 15 minutes from Roaring Camp n I can only say ya must see and ride it! It's my fave excursion line I've ridden so far! Cheers from Boulder Creek Ca!
@brianallen9810
@brianallen9810 Ай бұрын
I think I saw one of these in Scotia, California.
@MrMikey4026
@MrMikey4026 Ай бұрын
There is a Heisler about 12 miles from me. Also a Shay, a Climax and a Willamette at the Mount Rainier Scenic Railroad.
@climax522
@climax522 Ай бұрын
First image up ...... TTT Co. No.9. Heisler 1449/1921
@cdjhyoung
@cdjhyoung Ай бұрын
Another interesting video, please keep them coming.
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
Hi cdjhyoung. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Stay tuned for the Climax coming soon. Thanks for watching!!
@littlejohnny47
@littlejohnny47 Ай бұрын
Thank you Steve! Great overview of an interesting design. I have often wondered why there were three major variations of the geared locomotive?
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
Hi littlejohnny47. The Shay, Heisler and Climax were three different solutions to the same problem. Each inventor was trying to out do the other two to gain market share. Thanks for the comment and question and thank you for watching!!
@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Ай бұрын
In addition to ASL's comment, from what I hear from the grapevine (and a bit of logic), each locomotive has a benefit and a weakness. From what I've gathered (and could very well be wrong about): -Climax locomotives could haul the most, but were slow and prone to severe shaking, wearing out parts incredibly quickly. -Shays were less prone to shakes and were moderately reliable, but due to their driveshafts being mounted on one side of the engine, this leads them to require larger turning radia (radius's?). -Heislers were the most reliable of the big 3, but weren't geared down quite as much as the other locmotives, so they couldn't haul as much as either the shay or climax. Again, this is just what I've managed to piece together and am likely wrong.
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
@@weylinwest9505 I think you're on the right track. I haven't completed my research of the Climax so I can't offer an opinion yet. But, given how the engines are mounted, I can see where the shaking would come from. The Shays, however, were quite long, relatively speaking, and required a gentler curve due to the travel of its slip yokes. Heisler claimed their design could haul a greater load, albeit not much greater, than a Shay of comparable size.
@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Ай бұрын
@@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr I guess at that rate, it would come down to pounds of tractive effort and the cohesion factor, right?
@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Ай бұрын
Nothing better than learning about old logging Heislers at 7am! Thanks for making the awesome video ASL. Can't wait for the next one!
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
Hi weylinwest9505. That's hilarious!! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and stay tuned for the Climax coming soon!! Thanks for watching!!
@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Ай бұрын
@@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Hell yeah! My notifications are set for when you post next. Thanks for making quality content! There's so much that I didn't know, and so much that I didn't know that I didn't know (if that makes sense). Looking forward to seeing what there's to say about the climax locomotive. Also, if I may ask, how do you decide what locomotive (either type or specific engine) to do next?
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr
@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr Ай бұрын
@@weylinwest9505 I had quite a list of topics I wanted to cover when I launched the channel. However, I'm always open to suggestions!!!
@weylinwest9505
@weylinwest9505 Ай бұрын
@@americansteamlegacy-yh9dr I see! Well, I won't ask you to add more to your list. I'd feel bad if the workload/backup was too much. But, in the unlikely event you ever need more ideas, try asking on your community tab! There's likely many locomotives unknown to you, me, and many others that could do with the quality and in-depth research that you do! Thanks again for posting. Keep up the amazing work and see you next time!
@joedyhicks9415
@joedyhicks9415 Ай бұрын
Wonderful video Shays are one of my favorite locomotives. Thank you
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty Ай бұрын
The truth about Thomas Edison was that his success was due more to him employing inventors who couldn't afford patent their inventions, then Edison patented them in his name! Steve Jobs effectively copied this model with Apple!
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty Ай бұрын
I have a copy of a booklet on the oil-shale mines in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales, Australia. Using Shay's was the only option for the steep winding railway line that was to be built accessing the Wolgan Valley through a tunnel at its southern end. However, after recently moving house twice within 12mths, almost all my books are still in boxes, so I can't see myself finding the book in a hurry to let you know which model Shays were shipped from the USA, but vaguely remember that they were 3 or 4 Limas. Located on the floor of the valley at the northern end were the Newnes township & mines. There was an oil-pipeline built to carry petroleum-products through a narrow gorge from Glen Davis where another oil-shale mine was located to the north then hauled in tankers by the Shays out of valley to Clarice Junction, where they were transferred to Sydney bound trains. The Newnes mines & works operated from1906 to 1932, while those at Glen Davis operated from 1938 till 1952, with both sites running at losses, never came close to the original estimated production figures!
@bryansmith1920
@bryansmith1920 2 ай бұрын
Hi I'm a City & Guilds Qualified Motor Vehicle Engineer, I don't think your American Education system works the same as ours, Do you have apprenticeships, Anyway I think this vehicle, is one to prove the European, saying a Euro Engineer spends time designing a safe system and then makes it work, The Americans just build a machine, if two out of three operators survive, it' a winner,
@sambrown6426
@sambrown6426 2 ай бұрын
How on earth did you not mention the Cass Scenic Railroad? In addition to a Heisler and 2 Climaxes, they operate 9 Shays to this day, including "Big 6", the 2nd-largest shay ever built, which is also the largest Shay still in existence, a class C weighing a whopping 162 tons. Like, they're THE Shay operator these days, and I feel like they deserved to be mentioned in some way.
@ShadowVFX
@ShadowVFX 2 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in the Pacific Northwest, I'm very fond of and familiar with the Willamette style Shay locomotive. Having seen a number of them, I had no idea they were so rare. And, I don't fault you for mispronouncing Willamette, but here's the correct pronunciation for it. www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20pronounce%20Willamette%20&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m
@mikeportjogger1
@mikeportjogger1 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a really interesting and informative video. Here in the UK I have one of the Accucraft live steam models of an A-Class Shay. It always gets plenty of attention when I run it at exhibitions.
@walsakaluk1584
@walsakaluk1584 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I've learnt a little more about a really interesting steam locomotive.
@drcovell
@drcovell 2 ай бұрын
The are 2 geared, narrow-gauge locos, aka “Sidewinders,” running of the Roaring Camp Railroad in Felton, CA.
@TomRedlion
@TomRedlion 2 ай бұрын
For future reference, Willamette = wuhl AM Et I've ridden on Rayonier #2. The last Willamette built.
@franksprecisionguesswork501
@franksprecisionguesswork501 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t been there in years, but unless it’s been moved there is a Shay on display in the Williams AZ station. This is where the Grand Canyon railway meets the mainline .. it’s a mechanical marvel.
@jz422
@jz422 2 ай бұрын
There is a Willamette geared locomotive on display in Port Angeles, Washington. They're trying to restore the Rayonier #4.
@frasermitchell9183
@frasermitchell9183 2 ай бұрын
ONe of my favourite steam locomotive types ! Unfortunately, the concept was never used here in the UK, so I only ever seen photos and, of course, models.
@berkshireerielocomotive3322
@berkshireerielocomotive3322 2 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. It's kind of how Peterbilt got started. You have a man needing a more effective means of getting his log to the mill and ending up turning a whole industry.
@Iain1957
@Iain1957 2 ай бұрын
There were Shays in use at the Yawata Steel works in Japan c1910. They are visible in earlier photos. There were a few shays used in Australia. The four mentioned in the comments below were used on the private line from Newnes Junction into the Wolgan Valley and used to serve shale oil mines. There were also two shays (B/Nos. 2575 & 2576) supplied to the Lloyd Copper Co. for use at their Burraga works near Oberon, NSW. These hauled firewood to serve the mine and its smelters.
@89turbo1
@89turbo1 2 ай бұрын
BC Forest Discovery Centre !!
@89turbo1
@89turbo1 2 ай бұрын
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@derrickfoster644
@derrickfoster644 2 ай бұрын
That's what made me click on this video
@radiosnail
@radiosnail 2 ай бұрын
I'd heard of these from other You Tubers, but always happy for more. A brilliant concept.
@paulbrogger655
@paulbrogger655 2 ай бұрын
FWIW: Willamette is pronounced "will LAM et".