If it doesn’t read USB how did you do it right? Thats the only way to offline update it. You need to figure out why it doesn’t read usb. Is the thumb drive formatted correctly? Does it have more than 16gb of space?

OK hopefully it works for you. Make sure you do every step. You can’t skip any or else it probably won’t work

@@GamingRenewedLLC yeah I’ve seen your other comments, looks like people skip the cleaning step and stuff. I’ll update you!

Ok great. I’ll check back to see how it went.

@@GamingRenewedLLC Everything works perfectly up until the final step, the offline update. It begins to update and then says “System Error: 101”. Not sure what could be wrong, I’ve tried 3 different thumb drives for the offline update, all formatted correctly. I’m going to try this process all over again with the second HDD, but I’m sure it’ll give the same error code. EDIT: Should I look into OSU 2 and 3?

So it depends on what firmware is on the Xbox One. Can you tell me what it is running? If it's in the beta program, it's gonna be basically done for. But there are a couple firmware versions that you have to use OSU 3.

Had someone in the comments tell me Meguiars has fillers in it so it isn’t good for resurfacing discs. I haven’t had issues with the M205 but i use 3D products now. Maybe the M210 has more fillers?

@GamingRenewedLLC fillers... oof i assumed so, I even tested it heavily by sanding a disc down and played it fine before buffing, buffed and won't read now, haven't been able to fix it either I'm guessing it's dead dead lol

Might try re-sanding it and then buff with a different product. Worth a shot. Sanding might remove the filler enough to get it to read.

@@GamingRenewedLLC ill give it a shot

Any luck?

Are you using hydrogen peroxide with it as well? Also, usually you would use uv lights somewhere between the 260nm-400nm range. Mine are 400nm, which are not as powerful for retro brighting, but it also has a lower chance of over bleaching. Edit: It seems mine are UVa since they are 400nm.

@@GamingRenewedLLC Thank you, that sounds like UV-A, i have not tried hydrogen peroxide, i will try this as well, im not using this for nintendos, im using this for various white plastics that have become yellow, my cabinet takes G8T5 bulbs but i can only find in UVC, would you have a recommendation for me?

@@GamingRenewedLLC are these considered black light bulb?

Ah ok. That is why you aren’t having any luck then. You need the hydrogen peroxide in order to remove the yellow from the plastics. Your lights aren’t the issue. I recommend using a cream version of HP and not just the regular liquid. You don’t want it to dry out while you are treating it under the uv. I have a video on here showing how i do Nintendos. Process is the same. Should help you out

​@GamingRenewedLLC thank you, you are the man for sharing advice. I will try the cream version you recommended and let you know how it goes!

Thanks 🙏🏽.

Ah ok. Good to know. I actually started using the 3D products now

I would say watch the “trust the process” video on here. I think that one goes into the most depth on how i use it. Also, sometimes it just happens. Try not to get down on yourself and keep at it. You got this!

I appreciate the offer but i already have a second one i have setup just for Gamecube games. I got tired of swapping the plate 😂

That’s actually a good idea. I will start to do that moving forward. Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks 🙏🏽

I would recommend the Bauer over Milwaukee.

Here is the link for the coarse and soft pads: Coarse: www.jfjeasypro.com/product/coarse-sandpaper/ Soft: www.jfjeasypro.com/product/soft-sandpaper/ It will say on the package if it is soft or coarse. Once you place it on the black pad, make sure you write a C or S on them to remember which is which. For the 3D, I normally use the cutting compound with the yellow Bauer pad, or whatever pad you are using for the buffing stage. Then use the polish for the pad you are using for the polish stage. I normally use it with the white Bauer pad.

@@GamingRenewedLLC alright sweet thanks. You’re the goat! Just got our own JFJ today so can’t wait to try it out. But last thing… promise I won’t bother you for a while lol Do you mind making some sort of shortcut guide? In terms of different situations for discs. For example… Like if a disc can be read, but has a few scratches so you just want to clean it up, what are the steps you take for that? Or if a disc can be read sometimes, has a bunch of scratches, but none of them are super deep, what are those steps? Or if a disc has like one very deep scratch compared to a disc that has a multiple deep scratches, do you do the same thing for those discs? And so on. If there are any other situations that have their own path! Thanks again!

Got it 👍. I appreciate the suggestions. Believe it or not it gets hard figuring out what content to create lol. I will try to find some discs that fall into those categories and get a video out.

Sounds good thanks! The game you tested and worked before you resurfaced (I think it was halo), I did something similar and now the game doesn’t boot up? Is that something I did wrong on my end? Just curious so I don’t keep making that mistake. The disc worked before I resurfaced it. Just had a bunch of scratches on it. Ran it through the yellow pad for 2 min, then the white pad for a minute. Just to get the scratches and what not off. Is that wrong to do? Now the game doesn’t boot up lol

Wouldn’t say it’s wrong but I’ve had games not work after resurfacing them. Sometimes it happens. As long as it doesn’t happen often for you, then you are fine.

Thanks! I sell all my games and consoles through Walmart. If you need to offload games and accessories, then I would suggest using eBay or Mercari. Both of them are easy sites to sell on without much upfront effort.

Could be dirt on the pad or possibly the cut was too rough? Sorry can’t help much with this since i haven’t had that issue before.

Yes. Has to be a minimum of 500gb and max of 2gb

After I put -- cd Desktop\xboxonehdd-master-9\xboxonehdd-master\win I get "the system cannot find the path specified"

You have to use whatever file path you saved it to.

Yea in my newer videos i use way less compound. Thanks for the tips on cleaning the pads!

It came with the GameCube adapter kit they sell.

No problem! Happy to help! Next video will be going over all the internals and I’ll include links for all replacement parts i can find for it. That way, if something fails you can just replace that part instead of the entire thing.

do you know what size wrench that is? I don’t want to have to buy a game cube adapter just to get the wrench.

I would have to measure it against some wrenches I have to see, but the issue would be that you would need a super thin one to fit it behind the plate. The adapter with the wrench is only $9.99 on the JFJ site. Might be easier to just get it there: www.jfjeasypro.com/product/jfj-gamecube-plate/

Anytime 👍

You have to do all the steps in the video. Just swapping a hard drive will not always fix it.

Lol funny enough i bought those same exact pads. I just never got a chance to test them out. Thanks for the info 👍. I’ll have to give them a run

@@GamingRenewedLLC I've been messing with them and it seems like the red/orange one is great for the first 10-15 discs, and then all of a sudden it's swirl marks galore. Not sure if I did something wrong to cause it but my process didn't change throughout all that time. EDIT: And the blue one starts to disintegrate after about 20-25 runs. Blue fuzz everywhere inside the JFJ!

Were the runs back to back? It might be from heat build up drying the pad out?

@@GamingRenewedLLC No, a handful of runs at a time with plenty of compound and water as needed. Same as I treat the OEM pads. They were definitely better than the Temu one I tried that blew apart on the first run. Ha!

Lmao 🤣. Gotta love temu.

I would say it compares good to them. I really use them interchangeably. But now i use the 3D products. I like them a little bit more but i wouldn’t say they are way better.

It means that the hard drive doesn’t have the drive X or “System Update” partition on the hard drive. Xbox One hard drives get partitioned into 5 drives U,V,X,W,and Y U= Temp Content V= User Content W= System Support X= System Update Y= System Update 2 If you have never touched the drive, then either the hard drive is failing or that particular “drive”, in this case X, is corrupted and can’t be accessed by the Xbox anymore. Follow the steps in the video to setup a new hard drive for the xbox. I’d suggest using a replacement drive if possible. But you could try the current one first if you wanted.

Did you run through the whole process? Cleaning the hard drive then running the script? If that doesn’t work, then yea try another drive, but make sure you run the entire process.

Thanks! 😆

Yea true. I had to buy the “gamecube” pads to figure out they actually are the same pad lol. Typical JFJ experience lol.

You put in the work to save me. Thanks much!

Lol 😆 happy to help

Yea i haven’t had any issues with them. Even the black back games. One of the videos is showing me do a black back one, but i used meguairs i think. Honestly no difference. Same thing.

Idk why it wouldn't. I didn't have to do anything but stick mine on. Does your pad come off or something?

@@GamingRenewedLLC the base is not large enough, not 5 in for sure, prob 4' 3/4

Yea the base is smaller than the pad, but the majority of the pad is still stuck to the base. I’ve never had any issues with it being unbalanced or coming off the base during use.

Yea the JFJ is good but it isn’t user friendly at all. It’s going to make you learn how to resurface a disc before you get good results. The Elm Eco machines are just press the button and you’re good. You never understand why anything happens you just get great results lol. But you pay a lot more.

@@GamingRenewedLLC I see this actually you have to do step by step but tbh I thought it was complicated but is super easy just gotta have the right products where do you buy all the pads?

Look in the description in my last video “trust the process” everything i use is linked there. Not affiliate links, just the stuff that works best for me. Also, you will need to cut the pads to size with scissors. I’m pretty sure the sure the “better pads” video is the one where i show how i cut them to size. Not hard at all

No problem. Happy to help

@@GamingRenewedLLC You know how your compounds are mis matching. Which matching series will you go for next time you have to buy? Also, how firm is your bauer yellow pad in comparison to the JFJ cutting pad. I can't get bauer in canada and the cutting pad I got seems to soft and doesn't do as well as the jfj one.

The 3D ACA 510 and 520 would be the match i use. The yellow pad is a polishing pad, so it isn't a cut pad really. You could end with the yellow pad if you wanted, but I use the white finishing pad for even better results after the yellow pad. I would say the cutting pad jfj uses is more like a medium cut, which would be the green pad for Bauer. I just don't like the polish pad jfj uses. Doesn't seem like it gives a good finish.

Thanks 😊. It’s just a microfiber towel i cut into a circle and then cut a hole in the middle of.

@@GamingRenewedLLC I commented before watching the whole video 😂😂. Thank you sir!

Lol no problem.

So it’s not that the mins go quick or anything. I just don’t like knowing i am buying the ability to even run the machine on top of supplies. The machine is amazing though

@@GamingRenewedLLC Right but my point is you're going to have to re buy the compound regardless and you'll never run out of mins before you run out of the compound. So the amount your spending to "use" the machine is the same as any other resurfacer of that level

@PartenJoe No. Go look at how much their compound is by itself. It's $19.95. Then go look how much replacement pads are. They are $14 for the rough and another $14 for the mirror finish ones. So let's call it $28 because you want each type. So together, that's about $50. To get the same 4 pads, compound, and 800 min key card is $90. So I am paying $40 just to run the machine all because of the key card. Edit: no matter if the compound runs out or not it doesn't matter. You are still paying $40 dollars for 800 mins of use that isn't tied to normal supplies at all. Just so the machine works when you hit the button. It's more expensive than other machines to run because of that added cost.

I just get them from the jfj site. www.jfjeasypro.com/product-category/supplies/easy-pro-supplies/

All the links to the latest stuff i use for best results and a tutorial on how i use them are in the latest video: Trust the Process: Resurfacing 6 BAD and WORST Condition Discs w/ the JFJ Easy Pro Plus! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHvMm3ljmtaHhdE

Also where do you order or buy your 600/1200 grit pads? I see the links for the yellow and white ones.

Honestly it probably would just be personal preference regarding whether to use Meguiars or 3D. They both are great, but i lean towards 3D. It doesn’t get all hard in the top of it like Meguairs does and gets harder to squeeze out. Of course maybe if i closed them more often that wouldn’t happen lol. But i like 3D. Yea you have to have the Gamecube adapter or else it will cut into the pads if you put a Gamecube game on the regular sized back plate. I tried that and it shredded my pad pretty good.

Link for replacement coarse (600) and soft (1200) sandpaper here : www.jfjeasypro.com/product-category/supplies/easy-pro-supplies/ Also remember that the sandpaper just sticks on the black pads. So you can pull it off and put another new sandpaper piece on the black pad when it is worn out. The black pads you stick them on is the same link. I haven’t needed to replace the black pads just the sandpaper itself.

Messaging through here again… So do you recommend resurfacing every game, even if they don’t need it? Just to get it clean? Or just for games that are not reading? For deeper scratches, sanding is the go-to option correct? But that is also with the risk of damaging the disc in terms of the save data or how far the disc can be read in game. So how would you determine when to just buff a disc or use the sander? Thanks again!

Or I guess what I’m asking is, do you have a process for each disc? Like a starting point then a specific process for the depth of the scratches. Because if you have some kind of code that would be sick lol

You can get replacement pads from the jfj site here: www.jfjeasypro.com/product-category/supplies/easy-pro-supplies/ But i use the Bauer pads now and they are way better. Just got to cut them to size like i show on my video. Links here to pads: White Bauer Pads: www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/polishers-buffers/polishing-pads-wheels-accessories/6-in/6-in-ultra-fine-foam-polishing-pad-white-56664.html Yellow Bauer Pads: www.harborfreight.com/6-in-fine-foam-polishing-pad-yellow-56665.html?campaignid=12189147054&adsetid=123858086824&product=56665&store=3025&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4fod-fczXGOU7R80Il8Vzehc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIybHf1c2YhwMVXl1HAR0CTgg8EAQYASABEgK_1vD_BwE

Thanks 😊 so much for the support

The hard drive in the Xbox One is 2.5”. You can only use a minimum of 500gb and a max of 2TB.

@@GamingRenewedLLC thanks

No problem

Happy to help! Yea water helps keep the pads from drying out and keeps the heat down. Oh Eco Pro 2 is definitely easier and way less mess, just HATE the keycard so much lol. But the ease of use and great results from the Eco Pro 2 are amazing.

You can get a mod chip now for unlimited minutes ebay

Yea you can. If I ever got one, I'd have to get the mod chip

I can’t really justify getting one because i never have issues getting a mirror finish using the jfj. Of course i don’t use the jfj pads or compounds at all, which i always tell people not to use their stuff. The only elm machine i can justify is their 50 disc one but that’s probably a couple years away for me.

If that was true then they would do the keycard on every machine they sell. They only target the entry level one and you are not paying for the compound. You are literally paying for minutes to use your machine. The compound on their site is $10-$15. The pads are like $25 or something. But the only way to buy a keycard is with the compound, pads, and keyboard bundle which sells for $80. That is bs. They are literally charging you $40 to use the machine for 800 minutes. That has zero to do with making money from compound.

@@GamingRenewedLLC no yeah it is pretty bull, but I'm just saying from their perspective it probably wouldn't be a viable business to enter and dedicate time to if they only ever sold their units and that's it. No need to purchase anything else from them. Rarely does a companies products come without the consumer also purchasing more from them related to the product. If you're asking why there isn't competition I'd imagine there's not enough long term gain for a businessman to dedicate his time and resources into. I mean say I create the best resurfacer tomorrow for $200 and no minutes. Every reseller and store owner would own one in a few months and then the market for disc resurfacer would be killed. I'm just saying this is capitalism at work, and I totally get your point, but I also understand their perspective. It's either the minutes or there is no high quality resurfacers being sold and we'd all be using drills. Someone has to dedicate the time to building that business and I mean I know I'm not doing it if the market is that small and return customers will be non-existent

I look at it like a car. Because they essentially are the same format. Dealership sells you the car, and they can also fix the car if it breaks down. So they get both the sale and possibly repair sales throughout the life of that car. Elm essentially sells you the $200 machine, or one of their higher ones for thousands of dollars, and then they also repair and maintain those machines for you as well. Of course you pay them to do it, but in their case, they are the only ones who can repair the machines. Cars can be taken to any shop outside the dealer for repair but those resurfacing machines basically are Elm only repair. No reason they shouldn’t be able to stay in business from selling you the pads, compound, and repairs after selling you the product upfront. Pads definitely aren’t costly to manufacture and neither is the compound so i am sure the markup on them is a very good margin. Selling minutes means you actually do not own the machine at all. Because if you ran out of minutes but have compound left over, which Elm says you probably will because they give more than 800 minutes worth, you essentially can’t use the machine until you buy another $80 bundle to get pads and compound you don’t need just to get access to more minutes. Imagine if a car company sold you a car and then even if it had gas and fully functional, you woke up and forgot to put miles on your keys so now you can’t drive it until you buy more miles lol. Oh and you can’t just buy miles, it also comes with an oil change and brakes because miles are only sold in that bundle lol.

@@GamingRenewedLLC huge thing youre over looking in your analogy is that everybody needs a car. Not only that, some people like to buy two to a hundred cars. Those cars need insurance, there's aftermarket parts, gas, car shows, car races, ect. Literally dozens of other markets for a car company to extract more money from their customers if they so chose to. But again, there's so many people that need cars compared to people who need a disc resurfacer. We're talking millions to thousands. Your jumping around my original point which is there isn't enough of a market in this niche for there to justify there being a business to provide it to you. Only reason we do now is because the minute system makes it a viable business for them. Without the minutes, whoever runs the company, would likely just run a company that sells different products. And you wouldn't have the eco pro. Maybe there'd be something worse, who knows. But there's not no reason why there isn't more competition here's always a reason and I'm sure I'm telling you the reason. Also everything you listed that elm can sell you, you can buy from another company for cheaper most likely. AliExpress I'm sure sells all of that at close enough quality. And come on man. Are you really trying to make the point that car repairs market is anywhere close to in value that eco resurfacers repairs would be. I mean they don't even break often and chances are someone who owns the machines either know themself or knows someone who could fix it themselves. Especially someone in video game reselling. Edit: just want to finish off with, I don't care to convince you one way or the other I'm just stating the facts of the situation. I mean there's not even foreign brands to buy from this is literally it. Take it or leave it and you chose to leave it and that's fine. But as a business owner yourself with time you seem valuable, I'd imagine you can see the point I'm making in that someone has to make that time sacrifice to get into this business and why would they choose to make this their business to dedicate themselves to if they can go with a more viable market?

Oh no i am looking at this as healthy debate lol. Not looking to convince you either. Just two people expressing views is all. I made the analogy to cars because even though all those options are there, any shop not associated with the manufacturer can do the repairs and the parts can be aftermarket. So the manufacturer doesn’t benefit from them as much. If Elm needed to lock you in so bad to just survive, they would use the keycard on all their machines. They don’t use them on the $7000 one or the $15,000 one either. Only the $1500 one. So only for the “cheapest” one they need to lock you into their products but for the higher end ones, which costs significantly more money and time to make, they can let you use it without that lock? It doesn’t make sense to me.

Yea i the JFJ stuff is horrible. This 3D compound and polish has been doing great but i will get some of the 3M perfect it and give that a shot. Always good to have multiple options to use in case something gets changed or no longer available. I’m getting that pad you mentioned as well.

@GamingRenewedLLC Agreed I made a video on it when you get a chance. You might like some pointers 😁

Drop the link to the video lol

@GamingRenewedLLC I would lol but everytime I tried it gets removed let me try again 🤣

@@GamingRenewedLLC kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHS3pal9YrZoosUsi=DRneLs7m2ut9dLTP

Good info! Thanks for sharing 🫡. Definitely gonna try this out next time i get a pitted one.

The only other brand I’ve used is Milwaukee but they are not as good. They get the job done but they don’t give the same results as the Bauer pads and don’t last as long.

Jfj is good but it’s not for everyone. What i don’t understand is why there isn’t more competition in this space lol. Like it’s basically jfj or elm. Weird nobody else seems to make anything

It can but you have to use the GameCube adapter plate or else it will cut into the pads. I didn’t get a chance to try the bauer pads with GC games but i will try it out and post a video. The bauer pads are thicker so that may/may not cause issues

Yea i am trying to get it dialed in right first. Right now the drip feed is too fast, so i have to get a slower drip end and try that out. I also have to find a way to get it to drip into a soft brush or something that will apply it to the pad without the pad slinging it off while its running lol. But if/when i ever get it right, a video is definitely going up with how to do it.

Oh the other issue is that it doesn’t seem to save more time than just spraying the discs lol 😂. So there’s that too

I’ll look to see if i have any blu-rays that are in bad shape. Usually the newer games come in pretty good condition. But i will keep an eye out 👍