At the start I was thinking, you must be absolutely crazy to suggest these changes. But then, when you started explaining it, yeah, it's actually a brilliant idea. Wish they would make these changes or just outright remove all SPGs XD

Why do we need such artillery while having FV4005?

WTF, what are all these maps and tanks man, where are they in EU ?

Awesome guide. Where would the new accuracy experimental fall? Would this be like a cross between GLD and IAU for cases like the Foch B?

this sounds great

Not a bad idea, but honestly just kind of negates the use of arty. I think it has a place, but I don't have a solution to it either. This just feels like you'd miss even more and arty would be even more painful to play. If nothing else, just remove them, or make some sort of mechanic where you can't actually see the tank unless there are no mountains, buildings or large obstructions in the way. This would mean, you would need "line of sight" to the enemy. That way you can't just lob shells over buildings and mountains to hit targets. Or make it where you can only see targets in your gun arc. So arty would constantly have to move side to side to keep targets in their arc, but an enemy across the map would be invisible until they are in that gun angle. That way you don't get a constant top down view of every lit tank. Just a thought

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I see couple problems with this, A) it would have same problem as with say a vk28.01/105, impossible to lead a target on flat or up ridge due to how th game handles the shell arc - the shell will go far above somewhere far behind (end of map?).. B) artys are way too slow currently to get in place before battle is over, at least German T10 and C) you would get exactly one shot off and then be shutdown due to half map seeing you if you fire, even if you don't, combined with non-existant mobility.. A good take on a solution, but still would need refinement. Also, would make them even more situational than now, already a problem. Personally I'd like to see arty being able to destroy rocks&bunkers&buildings to dig out entrenched tanks and get some reward for that.

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Sounds like you are just whining. I average 2 kills and 2000 is damage as arty. There is skill involved and arty us supposed to be weak and out of line of sight. Get over it

*cockroach

with S-51 u have 203mm gun huh? not 152mm 17:43

I would like to know how would you make artys balanced with one another (on tier X)? Because mobility would be one thing killing these tanks and it seems like Batchat arty and obj 261 would be significantly better compared to other ones simply because they can shotgun much easier thanks to their mobility and lower caliber guns could be all around better especially against heavily armored tanks.

Maybe i'm in the minority, but the GWE100 should absolutely have a E100's armor, at least in the hull.

"would smash only if she's drunk" is diabolical

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thy can at last get only 2 shots in arty mod in the one battle

Good work ❤

This would mean artillery players need to buy a keyboard.

The S-51 does NOT have a 152mm howitzer. It have the Br-2 which is 47 caliber length and is the base of the BL-10 on the Su-152-2. The howitzer on it is the 203mm

Its not WiT. Its "Мир танков" by "Леста"

i actually like this

This looks quite nice, you could, if the shot isnt penetrating or splashes right beside the enemy, give them like 2-3 seconds of stun. maximum of 5 seconds overall, just to make then enemy know that what hes doing is stupid. Also, you still got the Sexton and LeFH in the game, these cant be nerfed regarding alpha or reload, all you coould do is buff their HP. so you owuld have the premium discussion all over again for lowtier

Chems is doing some methlike big brain moves. I approve.

I already love my FV304, but these buffs will make me love it even more

WG please

OMFg what a fucking idiot you are here. You don't solve something that isn't a problem by making it a problem. No, your logic is no better when you only focus on something that you think is a problem and. Because if game developers had made these changes, they would make the class completely ineffective, they could just as well take it away completely, but that doesn't work, of course. So your and other cry babies have been trying to do it since the 2nd year they came into the game. That is, your wishes are not an improvement for both parties, but only for your own side. So you really want the class to be a worse TD version "then" your problem and substandard argument is that you can't see where he is. The solution to this problem is in your own team by guessing what (SPG) but why would I counter foe's arty that I can see where he is through sniper mode, when I do so little damage. Stun is the one that brings in the most revenue by adding value to my team by sitting around using my skills to shit on cry babies like Gems f**k stat todder... Question, why are you even playing this game you're no good at it anyway.

first time in my life i see someone complaining about arty having not enough hp , but i understand ur way of thinking

This is going to ruin an already bad game! This must be banned in the game because then what's the point of all this...

Great Video, good Ideas! Hope Some1 from WG actually thinks about something like this!

Nothing problem with the big dame as you said in comparison with the FV 183mm gun is totally normal and realistic. I also not agree with you about the statement,like you can't see it and can't do nothing about it which is right, but may I ask what you can do behind the bush with the deadstar or FV or any TD? Nothing you usually can't see them also. It's really hard to play with arty and make some damage to recover even the cost of shells in silver especially if the lights wipe you out in every battle. Basically you want to make a TD from every Arty 😂

Issue no.1, Wargaming will not do this because it requires actual thought and effort being put into the game, something we all know they are incapable of doing.

At this point, it is legit more feasible to just develop your own dream tank game chems ✊

Oh chems, there were similar ideas back on the old WotLabs. Even though i agree with you, it ain't going to happen. There is a huge group of people that really enjoys to play artillery, and you can't really blame them for it: 1) Disabled people 2) People with really bad reflexes (even for WoT-like game that doesn't require good reflexes) 3) Children (WG keeps their game children-friendly all the time, by not showing (dead) people in open-top vehicles) 4) Old people ... And all of these groups are not a small player base that WG would lose if arty would be removed or reworked. Just think from the income point of view. Who hates artillery: It is mostly above average and top skilled players. The rest either don't care, or even enjoy it. So, we, the arty-haters will always be vastly outnumbered. And unless WG starts losing players (and therefore income) seriously, arty will not change. I would also add that, arty is, on paper, made to counter camping. But in reality it encourages camping. When there are more arties per game, if you push, you get clicked and stunned endlessly. So what do people do: Camp of course. This leads to stale and boring matches. Maybe that is why WG is constantly trying to speed up the game. If the average random battle lasts like 4 minutes, you will have arty firing 6-7 times tops, so they don't have much time to annoy you. TL;DR: as long as there is a significant player population that plays almost exclusively arty, WG won't change it in a more significant way.

Unpopular opinion : arty was more useful for team before nerf, since cooperation in random battles is rare, and the biggest help for team is to eliminate enemy tank

Back when I played WOT (that was right after 9.18 rolled out), I was an arty main, and I thought of the same - buff hp and accuracy, revert the damage and aoe, and remove top view and stun, problem solved. The AP pen/dmg dropoff is essentially the final step

I don't play WoT since around 1.3 patch, but this is just something.

Just quit cancer game. Cheapest solution.

kartoshka, hire this man at last

I would take old arty anytime of the day insted of this stun shit. FIXED arty now KEKW arty miss for 10+ meter and -550 like WTF okay oneshout me i go next idc. But also like your idea but i would leave ark like give them sniper mod but leave ark

Nice vid

And what would happen to tanks without armor? Its not possible to dodge every time, this would be toxic as the fv 4002

play on wg then try to be a hero, now ur just a russia supporter playing on 🤓lesta games🤓. And why would you make another td like class, its not a td its SPG

16:57 , put hardening on the leo. Thats the set up u want from a leo on maps like himmelsdorf.

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If i want to play a td i take a td people play arty becouse they can sit back and aim from the sky , even for 350 dpm they are ok with this This idea takes arty from the game and makes second grade tds

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wg taking notes, what not to do

How about you try playing a real tank. How about you stop being a fucking cuck and play the game right like the rest of us.