The Rise of Angmar! First Look
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MESBG TIER LIST: Evil LOTR Faction.
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@dejiodejio139
@dejiodejio139 3 күн бұрын
Uhm, yeah. Uhm...well, yeah. Anyway, yeah. Like...uhm..yeah, ok.
@mathiasbartl903
@mathiasbartl903 17 күн бұрын
Me and my random Snickers bar that proxies as an assault mech 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Harrison-cr2wl
@Harrison-cr2wl Ай бұрын
Fall of the Necromancer got the keeper of the dungeons resculpt, honestly doesn’t compare to others though. Think Rise of Angmar should of come out at that time instead as that’s when the plastic witch king released too.
@Nazgull2k1
@Nazgull2k1 Ай бұрын
Removing the Great Beast of Gorgoroth was fucking bullshit. But they KEPT the STUPID fucking Artillery for Gondor and Mordor.. AND THEY DONT EVEN PRODUCE A GOD DAMN MODEL FOR THEM!!!
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Mate don't get me wrong I'd love to see all siege weapons out of the game, but they definitely have models for catapults and trebuchets -Liam
@TheXboxlive5
@TheXboxlive5 Ай бұрын
Day 2 asking for AOM PLAYTHROUGH
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
😰
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Ай бұрын
i need a refund just bought shagrat kardush...i don t agree with the changes, i will still include shagrat and kardush. Shagrat was in the movies, it s just marketing, they want to make you buy their new stuff. oRc tracker is a no no, the cheap archers.. You jumped shaggy..
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Shags is still in the game, they'll just get rid of his shield of cirith ungol and stuff like that, so he'll be pretty shit potentially -Liam
@TheSegert
@TheSegert Ай бұрын
Sooo when you have a khand army you are fricked. WHy remove vrasku en mauhur? i just fricking bought them?!!?!? I hate GW. YOu cant trust them. they just gutted MESBG... I wont be playing this poop edition.
@Bryan-v6s
@Bryan-v6s Ай бұрын
i mainly play narrative scenarios an quest of the ringbearer is S-Tier for me. it gave me so much content, i'm still not through with it (i have to build a lot of terrain for some scenarios).
@HyperRealitySuperFun
@HyperRealitySuperFun Ай бұрын
GW kills the hobby from element from their games
@laser7613
@laser7613 Ай бұрын
I just started with khazad dum, i own armies of Rohan, Rivendell, Moria, Isengard and Mordor. a lot of my armies are legacy now, if they bring new plastics to my factions, i will buy the new edition. But for now I think they can keep it.
@TheXboxlive5
@TheXboxlive5 Ай бұрын
Day one of asking for age of mythology playthrough after this epic soundtrack 🎉🎉
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Fuck, you might not have to ask too many days 😂 -Liam
@TheXboxlive5
@TheXboxlive5 Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen I need a rating for the new remaster asap!!
@rosaryenjoyer739
@rosaryenjoyer739 Ай бұрын
Rest in peace Erkenbrand. My favorite Rohan hero to bring to casual games. You will live on as my captain model, but your loss will hurt.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they bought him and Grimbold back with updated models in a Rohan supplement in future -Liam
@laser7613
@laser7613 Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen I dont think Rohan will get new models out of the lord of the rings era.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
@@laser7613 I certainty dont see why not tbh
@RedIron914
@RedIron914 Ай бұрын
Winge
@henryrodriguez6260
@henryrodriguez6260 Ай бұрын
I am very invested in Khand and intend to play it after finishing building my chariots.
@punchyMiddleEarth
@punchyMiddleEarth Ай бұрын
Goodbye my lover Goodbye my friend
@DarkhorseOldWorld
@DarkhorseOldWorld Ай бұрын
Typical GW rubbish, the most toxic company! Game is dead
@punchyMiddleEarth
@punchyMiddleEarth Ай бұрын
The sad truth
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Nah lads, it's not dead, these models being relegated sucks, but they're still playable, I'm definitely sad about it all but the new edition is shaping up to be steps in the right direction despite all this -Liam
@SqueakySniper
@SqueakySniper Ай бұрын
The music is really distracting. Its at the same volume as your voices if not louder.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
's good music tho
@emberpowertcg7692
@emberpowertcg7692 Ай бұрын
Here's to praying for a soft reboot of each model aha
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these come back in some way with supplement of the new edition honestly, Rohan lads and Dwarves especially -Liam
@sjins1poolboy698
@sjins1poolboy698 Ай бұрын
Mablung and Angborn are both movie and book characters but no we get rid of them while the movie only Haleth and Bowman (Aldor) get to stay? The consistency is non-existent across all of these choices.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Didn't realise Mablung and Angborn where book lads. Yeah the inconsistency is really quite frustrating tbh, Id have preferred GW just come out and say "hey these models don't sell, these ones are old and these ones where sue to licencing. Just be honest with us lads -Liam
@sjins1poolboy698
@sjins1poolboy698 Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen yeah one of them guards Frodo and one of them is the best tracker who reports Gollum in the pool to Faz from memory. That would have at least made us feel like they are being upfront and transparent with us. This whole thing just makes it feel like they don't like being honest with the customers.
@sog242
@sog242 Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear veteran players get smashed like this. I own the two Moria Shamans. That's cool, they can be my regular shamans. Otherwise all my models are safe. But I have only been playing for a year. I think this shake up was absolutely necessary to attract new players. And manye sculpts are horribly outdated.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
I don't disagree that there's a portion of these models that are dated, but there's a not insignificant amount of these models that were literally made and released in the last 4 years. I do genuinely hope this edition brings new people to the game, but even players who only started this year have been pretty heavily hit by these models "leaving" -Liam
@theglorioussweatward6390
@theglorioussweatward6390 Ай бұрын
The only good thing I can think about this at the end of the day is at least you can make some new tier lists for the factions after the reset XD
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Nah not the only good thing mate, I still think this edition is going to be solid, but this definitely hits a sour note -Liam
@theglorioussweatward6390
@theglorioussweatward6390 Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen oh i think there is some good stuff with the new edition i was being more jovial then the comment came out haha, there is some strangeness to the things they have chosen to can though that's definitely true
@ArchreitTheScuttler
@ArchreitTheScuttler Ай бұрын
I know we still have profiles, and I know we still have the current edition rules if we want them, so current players hopefully won't suffer too much. But to completely gut some factions means the potential for new players, or new projects, is massively reduced. And the logical inconsistencies with who stays and who goes is maddening, I cannot see how they've made these decisions, and it's actually frustrating. Razgush and Muzgur gone, but Tom Bombadil, Goldberry, and the Ruffians? They're fine? I hate it
@DarkhorseOldWorld
@DarkhorseOldWorld Ай бұрын
Correct, and this is typical of GW (absolutely horrendous toxic company)
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Tbh I think the gutting hurts older players more than newer ones in basically every way. But yeah the inconsistency is definitely the thing that annoys me the most, if it's cost issues, sale issues, licencing issues, just tell us, we're not children (some members to the contrary) -Liam
@christianoman217
@christianoman217 Ай бұрын
My take on this; it's about ip and licensing. They are keeping Gulavar he don't even exist anywhere afaik
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Yeah 100% licensing, sales, costs, that kinda thing is pretty evident, would have been much better if GW just flat out said it tbh -Liam
@saschaorth5631
@saschaorth5631 Ай бұрын
Can the overall names of the factions in this list not be a sign for things to come? Misty mountains for Moria (and maybe goblin town), Elven Kingdoms for Rivendell and Lorien? Who knows, how list construnction will work from here on out.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Yeah I think the categories definitely have some insight into how factions will work from here out for sure, might do a video on it in future -Liam
@davidnotman8957
@davidnotman8957 Ай бұрын
We were told profiles are moving into legacy and no longer supported, and people are surprised when it happens??? it was going to be enough to fill a legacies PDF document wasnt just going to be 3-4 profiles lol we dont know how the new edition will balance the game and better support existing profiles. its a loss, i love playing Vrasku and Mauhur but hopefully Isengard heroes have a buff to make them more competitive, lets see what the new edition brings before saying if this was a mistake.
@punchyMiddleEarth
@punchyMiddleEarth Ай бұрын
Are you retarded or just a GW simp
@pyrrhus2075
@pyrrhus2075 Ай бұрын
Really surprised the Easterlings missed the cull, especially the Rhunish War Drake
@oneeyedwonderer6781
@oneeyedwonderer6781 Ай бұрын
Yh I'm sticking with the current edition
@alessiocortez6520
@alessiocortez6520 Ай бұрын
Does that mean there is gonna be 4 pages of rules in the core book on ‘great beasts’ just for mumakil now? XD
@paulgourma9589
@paulgourma9589 Ай бұрын
They better announce a batch of new/updated models really fast because the game just lost a lot of diversity and most of the models are 20+ years old
@naugladur8534
@naugladur8534 Ай бұрын
This is terrorism
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
A second GW has struck Orthanc
@GreenGenerationTV
@GreenGenerationTV Ай бұрын
Lmaooo
@klaashoogland5831
@klaashoogland5831 Ай бұрын
Its awfull
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Ай бұрын
The true winner of all this is the plain Orc Captain on Warg.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Might not be keeping the mount mate, wargear without models are going too -Liam
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen Jesus fuckhn christ.
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen I just had an epiffany if we want a mounted captain level but not Gothmog Black Numbuinorian Marshel might have just become the guy lol.
@voice_of_terra7228
@voice_of_terra7228 Ай бұрын
Maybe the music could be a bit louder? I can barely hear it.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Aw shit here we go again 😂
@alexleggerini3719
@alexleggerini3719 Ай бұрын
Vrasku is a GW invention. Erestor was not, and was part of the council of Elrond in the book
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Yeah I knew Vrasku was, mental that Erestor also a book character lost. But Hurin and Ingold also survived 🙃 what is going on -Liam
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 Ай бұрын
So shagrat is bad now? No heavy armour and shield
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
More than likely, we'll have to see what they do for his stats and rules I guess -Liam
@metascrub285
@metascrub285 Ай бұрын
@NoobsandMen nooo, my cirith ungol army
@tedarnoldmoore
@tedarnoldmoore Ай бұрын
Rangers is in both gondor at war and quest of the ring bearer
@Adam-pi3fe
@Adam-pi3fe Ай бұрын
There must be a legal side to all of this that we aren't hearing.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Legal, production costs, sale numbers, it'll likely be a combination of all three. Would be nice to just be a bit more transparent tbh -Liam
@NikNakNaj
@NikNakNaj Ай бұрын
Yes I wouldn't be surprised if there were negotiations character by character. If Amazon or someone else doesn't need the rights they may have negotiated to keep them in some form. For example Amazon will definitely want the unique ringwraiths for RoP before they were corrupted so they were always going.
@HPugwash
@HPugwash Ай бұрын
Time to sell my unpainted MESBG pile of shame, honestly screw GW, i dont wanna support them anymore
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
I wouldn't throw the baby with the bath water mate, they'll likely be playable at most events and you can just start printing armies if you really don't wanna give them money -Liam
@GreenGenerationTV
@GreenGenerationTV Ай бұрын
ayo hmu
@mattrondeau2
@mattrondeau2 Ай бұрын
As I said in the last upload, I need to apologize to all the people that were saying the end is nigh because... Jesus fucking Christ GW
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
I definitely wouldn't go that far, it's rough, but they're going to be playable at most events still and hopefully they actually pull of replacing them with better rules on existing models to make up for it. Not all doom and gloom yet! -Liam
@mattrondeau2
@mattrondeau2 Ай бұрын
@@NoobsandMen It's more the collecting side for me than anything. It's not really going to impact me because I've been playing and getting stuff for so long, but for newer people they're missing out on so much classic stuff now unless they pay a ton for second hand minis
@medburyminiatures9607
@medburyminiatures9607 Ай бұрын
dol amroth men at arms are in the books
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Of course they are 😂 Christ alive GW -Liam
@devilinside6629
@devilinside6629 Ай бұрын
Why does Vrasku Hurt Mauhur was actually in the books as opposed to lurtz
@briarsandbantams
@briarsandbantams Ай бұрын
GW's license isn't with the Tolkien estate. It's with New Line/Warner Bros.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Vrasku isn't in either book or movie, but yeah it's joint movies and books to be fair -Liam
@91Caesar
@91Caesar Ай бұрын
But all my comments 💔
@michaelgrey1351
@michaelgrey1351 Ай бұрын
As someone who still plays 40k 2nd edition, im happy for GW to have aplay with the rule set but I'm good thanks.
@judcarl5248
@judcarl5248 Ай бұрын
Wow, i was honestly looking forward to the rule update.. but now im just devastated. What i hoped to get were adjustments of the pointcosts of models, who were too cheap or too expensive. Something like a balancing update, cuz GW brought out new models in the recent years who are too strong (Gorulf, Rutabi etc.), while other models are kinda unplayable (compare Knight of Umbar with Khamul for example. Or the 8 points for the moria blackshield in comparison with the 7 points for a prawler, which is the waaaaay better model^^) What it seems we are getting is a completly random crippling of entire armylists. The Corsair Reavers and the Men at Arms of Dol Amroth are essential models for their armylists, they make those lists fun and versatile. For what reason are Dunland, Khand and Mahud removed, while the Easterling Army, who in the books only consists of nameless warriors, remains? And as you already pointed out, it is COMPLETLY random.They remove things like Khamul, Gildor and Erestor while keeping Rutabi and other made-up stuff. Few weeks ago GW invented things like werewolves of Angmar and multiple made up heroes, they can remain, but Mauhur can´t? the fck? Im just sooo tilted. Probably won´t buy this new rulebook and stick to the old rules with my friends. There aren´t any tournaments where we live in Germany anyway. So it doesn´t even affect me much. But still. Simply why? Isn´t it nice to have multiple options for your armys? Why can´t everyone play the things they want to play? Just balance it accordingly, maybe readjust the fighting value. But this? Im soooooo disappointed. GW, it´s the wrong direction and i dunno if your doing yourself a favor removing some of the most liked models following a completly random selection. But enough of me crying a river about this. Thanks for the video!:)
@Mdhneo007
@Mdhneo007 Ай бұрын
Thanks for saving me a rant! Totally agree.
@AngryAcolyte
@AngryAcolyte Ай бұрын
Can’t hear the music over these guys talking 😢
@joshuaorourke1976
@joshuaorourke1976 Ай бұрын
I only came for the music.
@Chickenchicken46
@Chickenchicken46 Ай бұрын
Gondor at war is D tier, purely for 0 gondor LLs and no the hobbit tax faramir army doesnt count.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Men of the west 😂
@jameshilton8542
@jameshilton8542 Ай бұрын
What is the music from? I can’t remember it but nostalgia is bursting lol
@taliesinmcgregor-sims1879
@taliesinmcgregor-sims1879 Ай бұрын
Age of empires 1 or 2
@taliesinmcgregor-sims1879
@taliesinmcgregor-sims1879 Ай бұрын
Age of mythology rather
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Age of mythology mate
@Chickenchicken46
@Chickenchicken46 Ай бұрын
Massive worry is how armies are going to play with this removal of profiles from the armies of lord of the rings books. Which is supposed to have all the armies lists, are harad now only going to be a protect a mummak army? Is moria now purely balrog and friends? Thats my biggest concern.
@BrickWann
@BrickWann Ай бұрын
I dunno, I feel like being so doom and gloom right now is kind of silly. As far as you know all the models they're putting on "death row" will be played in every single tournament outside of GW stuff for years... And we also know nothing about how armies will be built in the next edition so saying they "killed factions" is kind of meaningless. Not only because the models that are "gone" aren't really gone, but also because we know nothing about how these armies will be built, what options they'll have, etc.
@DarkhorseOldWorld
@DarkhorseOldWorld Ай бұрын
Do you work for GW?? Or your head is stuck up your...?
@mesbgnerds
@mesbgnerds Ай бұрын
I also noticed Gundabad orc warriors are up for last chance to buy. Not mentions as getting reboxed, potentially range rotated? Probably slim chance of the them redoing them in plastic.
@NoobsandMen
@NoobsandMen Ай бұрын
Oh that's an interesting catch. Surely just a mistake? -Liam