Norwegian here! For us threshold training is low risk at high volume :) For example way under 2 mmol for morning sessions during peak volume in the winter. Higher lactate less of a problem when it is time to decrease volume and increase speed and intensity during spring and summer :) The threshold training is nothing magical, but a high volume base with good risk management is magical!
@LinkletterRory4 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@carlosparra852 күн бұрын
I agree that the values here on this AM workout seem a bit high. Nevertheless, from what I have been able to gather from different research papers, articles, and training videos, the AM session goes to 2.5mmol/L. 2.0mmol/L is your fat max, barely entering the thershold realm. Nevertheless, Rory had a good point during the video when he said "2.9mmol, which for me is really low". I agree that each person may have their threshold at a different value. For example, For me what it ismy threshold may start at 2.0, but maybe yours starts at 2.3, so that should be taken into account. I agree that the AM session lactate should be lower than the PM.
@MrEirik30002 күн бұрын
@@carlosparra85 the target intensity for morning intervals depends on the time of year. For example during the longest training period without any races, October to early May, we target the lowest lactate values. Jakob Ingebrigtsen could for example target 1.7 mmol in the morning in January during peak volume at 200km/week because he is so good at clearing lactic acid that even at 1.7 mmol the mechanical system works relatively hard! The idea is not to find a magic mmol number to train at, but the idea is to use mmol as a number to manage risk in order to avoid recovery-debt. Low measurement = low energy usage = low mechanical risk = low recovery risk
@carlosparra852 күн бұрын
@@MrEirik3000 I do not disagree with what you say. My thought process (and I am not an expert, so I am willing to learn) is that if someone's threshold starts at X, and I know that anywhere between X to X+2 I will be able to recover well for the next workout, why keep training at <X? Don't you think that workout at <X may be a missed opportunity for a harder stimulus? I agree with you, if you are targetting 200km/week and even at your threshold lactate values, you are fatigued and cannot reach that volume or get injured in the process, then yes, I agree, the efforts should be sub-threshold, but that is then something else, we are not talking about threshold workouts. I always wondered how the Inbegritsen organize their macrocycles and mesocycles throughout the season. I have not been able to find out much out there. I assume in the off-season or early in the season, they go higher volume, and maybe, as you suggest, focus a bit less on hitting exact threshold efforts. Then, as the season progresses, they dive into pure double threshold & hill sprints, and finally, close to the competition, they move a bit more to race-pace efforts. They even use races as their sharpening effort for their main goal race. Again, this I am guessing.
@Thisisallthereis7776 күн бұрын
Who is your new coach?
@LinkletterRory3 күн бұрын
Jon Green
@gavinhill41478 күн бұрын
Nice work! what kind of wu/cd do you do between the double Ts
@LinkletterRory8 күн бұрын
Normal WU for first session, shorter CD (2 miles) shorter WU in PM 2 miles, really short CD 5 min
@bluemagic58298 күн бұрын
Fantastic work! Thanks for sharing! Rooting for you. God bless.
@danielwaldenga38049 күн бұрын
Oh. By the way. Great job on your win in Denver Half Marathon just because. You’re doing a great job. Keep it going!
@brandonseagreaves67210 күн бұрын
longest threshold interval you would recommend? 1k, 2k, 3k,?
@LinkletterRory9 күн бұрын
For double T, 10 min in duration
@BamainMn11 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Glad I landed on your channel
@spankmoi11 күн бұрын
Really high Lactate for a threshold session compared to other atheletes. How does your Lactate profile look like? Seems like you produce it easy without feeling especially toxic. Ingebrigtsen and Nordås tries to hit around 2.0mmol in the morning session, and a little bit higher in the afternoon, but never over 3.0ish.
@BenIsRunning11 күн бұрын
48hours after a dub! Built different🙌🏻 so glad these videos are still coming post Olympics
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
Too invested in this to back down now 😅
@victorhanley62311 күн бұрын
awesome video sir 🎉🎉🎉
@baumsquad22211 күн бұрын
Why the new coach? Love the videos and info.
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
Ryan stepped away from coaching
@baumsquad22211 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory Gotcha. Thanks for the reply! Hadn't heard that. Hope the fresh start continues you along your progression.
@mokey_v11 күн бұрын
im here for the portapotties and fluid effort 💩
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
lol everybody poops
@brianlacanilao153511 күн бұрын
Awesome video! They keep getting better production wise. Love the explanation on Double T training.
@General1Cal11 күн бұрын
Double threshold I did way back in the late 90's it only works when your at the top of your game.
@jeffreynoyes80111 күн бұрын
4.9 is way too high for a threshold effort, no matter who you are. Anyway, best of luck Rory!
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
Hence why we backed off from there (:
@ianbarnett602711 күн бұрын
Be no problem for Ruth
@brianway424011 күн бұрын
Will you be showing and telling us about Chicago? Did you go the whole distance? What would you call that day? 90% MP or something like that?
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
I did go all the way, didn’t document it.. could’ve been fun, but some hurdles to get it done
@brianway424011 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory Any way you look at it, it must have been a pretty good prep workout for the goal race.
@mikes576412 күн бұрын
In his "Final 12-weeks marathon program", J. Daniels prescribes the following (big) threshold session. 2E-5T-5minE-4T-4minE-3T-3minE-2T-+2minE+1T+2E. These are miles! 15 miles of T in a session of 21 miles. Am I right that such a session is a bit old school, and pro athletes are more careful, especially with the faster paces, taking into account recovery these days? E.g. I also see little people doing 27K @M-pace 3 weeks out. 20K seems to be what most are doing?
@LinkletterRory11 күн бұрын
There’s a place for that type of work, I’ve done my fair share of it. But it’s a big bite out of the apple 🍎
@global-runner12 күн бұрын
Smashing it!! Love this!
@donnybeal213512 күн бұрын
It's still so cool to see the Olympic rings on your arm!!
@AdamWoodRuns12 күн бұрын
Great video!
@atxrunner12 күн бұрын
What are your LT1 and LT2 values?
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
Good question, don’t know the answer to that. I should probably talk to someone who has a better understanding than me about this
@SkiSurfHikeIt12 күн бұрын
Will your big days all be Double Threshold or will you do any long efforts at marathon pace? Are you expecting both types of sessions to be used in your marathon builds? I know you are currently experimenting with this.
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
I’m still doing some long sessions @ MP
@brianway424011 күн бұрын
What about Ryan's signature workout: 10 moderate 12 MP 2 easy Maybe there's not enough time to fit that in.
@tyriksmith905312 күн бұрын
Great stuff…..thank you for sharing…..great and very helpful stuff!!!!
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@whiterabbit744612 күн бұрын
same coach as phily?
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
Yes
@whiterabbit744612 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory woo let’s go! planning to incorporate plenty of thresholds to my marathon training block too so i’ll be following along your training.
@artcmd12 күн бұрын
Glad to see you in Chicago!
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
Were you the one that gave me a shout out mid race? 😅🤙
@kofuzi12 күн бұрын
goodness. this is a big day
@LinkletterRory12 күн бұрын
Big volume, but chill vibes
@thomasanderson946012 күн бұрын
Let's go!!!!!!
@Tommygimbal23 күн бұрын
Good luck on the build ups! Appreciates the breakdowns of ur running and the coros tips!
@Bort_here23 күн бұрын
Gas! Love the ambition you are gunna do great things
@tatotherunner438824 күн бұрын
You are so ready mentally! Now go crush it,💪
@andypham163624 күн бұрын
will you also be running the Chicago marathon?
@LinkletterRory24 күн бұрын
Pacing
@andypham163624 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory oh
@PhilyBowden24 күн бұрын
i heard a rumour Connor Hayward is coaching u now
@LinkletterRory24 күн бұрын
He’s involved
@mposh24 күн бұрын
See you in NYC, Rory.
@thomasanderson946025 күн бұрын
Back with ED E. and the boys :)
@kylestephens959325 күн бұрын
Rory, I don't know if you're gonna read this, but @ 10:32 what you said reminded me of one title fight in the UFC - it was Volkanovski defending his 145lbs. title against Topuria. In the days before the fight I listened a podcast where they predicted Topuria was probably going to beat him, exactly because of what you said: Volkanovski showed signs in his last few fights that he doesn't think he has to take risks, he thought he was much smarter and gonna "finess his way into a win". He was knocked out cold in the second round.
@emanuelsantos558525 күн бұрын
The biggest Marathon its Berlin with more of 54.000 finishers 😊
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
I did not fact check myself
@mposh24 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory "Race organizers for the Berlin Marathon announced that a world record 54,280 people finished the race in Germany this on Sunday, surpassing the 54,175 finishers from the Paris Marathon back in April and the 2019 New York City Marathon record of 53,627."
@coryholland181125 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great clip. I think top 5 would be a great reward for your committment. Waiting to see a whole lot of BYU guys in the lead pack. Best of luck.
@thomasanderson946025 күн бұрын
Top 10 would be AWASOME--Field is lit !!
@akilback25 күн бұрын
Good luck in NY. It’s not an easy course but I think you’re ready for it!
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@akilback25 күн бұрын
Good luck in NY. It’s not an easy course but I think you’re ready for it!
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Can't wait!
@AdamWoodRuns25 күн бұрын
He’s not back, he’s better 🤌🏼
@abkonk25 күн бұрын
Glad to see you on the up and up! You're quickly becoming one of my favorite runners and converting me to a Puma fan, lol. Could you do a full week of workouts in a longer form video where we're really following you during each workout (including easy runs)?
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
We could do something like that before NYC. Thanks for the recommendation
@mycamel173725 күн бұрын
Love watching these! Stay hungry you got this
@DC-nt5lh25 күн бұрын
Another great video! Enjoyed your thoughts on New York. With that reasoning in mind, I hope we'll get to see you in Boston again--this time in April for the true Boston experience. :)
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
I’d say there’s a decent chance (:
@Benogan25 күн бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you crush NYC! Do you have a puma recommendation for a non carbon speedwork shoe?
@btwanonymous480125 күн бұрын
they'll probably come out with a non plated super trainer like adidas and nike sooner or later
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Liberate
@HM-qe9pd25 күн бұрын
@@btwanonymous4801what is the Nike non plated super trainer?
@Benogan25 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory doesn’t look like they sell it anymore- will see if I can pick it up somewhere or maybe they’re about to drop the 3s?
@victorhanley62325 күн бұрын
awesome video sir
@artcmd25 күн бұрын
On the unpaved road (somewhere muddy or rocky on the trail), which running shoes do you prefer?
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Deviates!
@blair757825 күн бұрын
Keep showing up - love it! Can relate to your comment about taking risks. I ran Sydney recently with a PB or bust mindset and went sub 2.40 for the first time! 🎉 Keep the awesome content coming!
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Gotta risk it! Thanks for watching!
@brianway424025 күн бұрын
It looks like you were in Fast-R for that road workout. It's a new version, right? Lighter? What did you wear on that dirt run? I couldn't get a good look at your feet. It seems like there was a group behind you but maybe it was just coincidence and not anyone you plan to run with.
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
Fast-R 2, which is my marathon/race shoe On the dirt I was wearing deviate elite 2!
@brianway424025 күн бұрын
I really like what I read about DE 2 and it looks really cool. Is that what you wear for a shorter race?
@tommoore3292Ай бұрын
Mind me askin rory , as a daily trainer would ya go nitro 3 or magmax ,im bit hesitant if magmax is on heavy side
@LinkletterRory25 күн бұрын
If you’re looking for something more versatile I’d recommend the deviate 3, but mag max is better IMO for just mileage needs
@tommoore329225 күн бұрын
@@LinkletterRory ok thanks rory ,loving the videos
@robkelly5825Ай бұрын
Hi Rory. Thanks for another good video. A couple of points: 1. I didn't feel that you really truly explained why you are running NYC. Can you be open about the real reasoning? Sponsorship demands? Do you feel unfinished business after Paris? Is it for revenue? What is really going on behind your reasoning? It would be cool to really be open and real with your viewers about this. I respect your privacy and your personal reasons. You don't owe an explanation to anyone. It's just something I wanted to mention. 2. I didn't mind the technique of showing your online workouts on the left of screen - but I would caution you about scrolling through the workout too much and too quickly. It's very distracting for the viewer to be trying to listen to you and, at the same time, trying to absorb what we're seeing on the online workout screens. Maybe try it again but show less, not more. Maybe slow things down a bit. Please know that my comments and suggestions always come from a place of respect, support, and humility. Rob.
@LinkletterRoryАй бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I'll give more reasons as to why I'm running NYC this fall in the next video. We were just trying something out with that format, in the content game you gotta try stuff and just see what sticks!