Ive not tried this, but i can see a more combat-focussed use for them in Annihilation Legion detachments. Assuming you have some shooting then you can use the Ophydians to mop up units you've damaged but not wiped. With the re-roll charges and the +1 if the unit's below half strength, they have a good chance of making that 9" charge after tunneling, and with the number of attacks can probably do the business on a weakened unit, leaving your ranged attacks and nore powerful combat units free to focus elsewhere. Of course, that's if you're playing Annihilation Legion...

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Ophydians ability overwrites the core rule limitations. They can be can be placed in your next turn, even if that is your first turn.

If you follow that reasoning then the transcend c'tan ability would also be subjected to the normal arriving from reserve rules, as it's also doing a reposition. But that's clearly not the intent there, and we take the specific ability rules as overriding the "arrives in reinforcements step" rules. I think the rules commentary is intended to mean reserve rules that apply on set-up also apply here e.g. counts as making a normal move.

The problem is every time I’ve used them they shatter like glass but hit like a wet towel. It would be nice to have the extra claw attacks or the -1 to hit back from last edition.

HOLY SHIT, Spiders are the best huh?

Quantum Invader trumps the mission rules entirely. That is the entire point of this ability. It is the reason why this aircraft can deepstrike. You just can't rapid ingress it turn one because that stratagem specifies out-of-phase rules which the Nightscythe would need to avail of (reinforcement steps). You need to be careful about disembarking after cosmic precision using the Night Scythe because the disembarked unit still has the 9inch restrictions when deploying, seeing as it's only the Nightscythe using Cosmic Precision. You are also reading Tunnelling Horrors wrong, in a big way. There's nothing in that ability that trumps the ruleset because it's never mentioned that they can do this regardless of mission rules. This is important. They are treated as having the normal mission rules restrictions unless otherwise stated. It is one of the reasons these units are not taken, because they offer nothing special.

Imma give the example of the Faction ability of thousand sons, the make a strat cost 0 trumps the normal make a strat cost 1 less(as far as I'm aware this is the only way to do so now), additionally it overrides the only one use per phase. Rules on the data card/ model, supersede core rules. [Book of lore can let u triple overwatch, if you have the cabal pts] I think this one is clear though, your not in stat reserves, but you can pick up and must place down at the end of your next movement phase.

"In the Reinforcements step of your next Movement phase, set it up anywhere" this is pretty unambiguous. In your next movement step. Feels pretty clear to me

A single Ophydian squad has been my go to late game scoring unit when deep strike is unavailable after round 3. Usually leave them screening a section of my deployment and before the game begins I tell my opponent that at the end of every battle round I will pick them up just in case of a secondary pull that requires them to be somewhere, if I don’t get anything, I just deep strike them back into the same spot to continue screening. With a 10” move and infantry, they make a great little late game push for the opponents home objective if I’ve put them back there

Personally I would say unit rules trump core/mission pack rules by virtue of being more "specific". Otherwise every rule that contradicts core rules (i.e. 3 inch deepstrike) would be useless. It also makes the game easier to play if you aren't hunting through the core rules every time an ability comes up to see if it's even functional. That said, there's clearly wiggle room either way. Take leaders for instance. Only one normally by core rules, but Crypteks can go with Overlords because of their unit card, but only one Cryptek because the rules commentary say 2 is the maximum (despite this seemingly being nowhere in the core rules). It's a bit of a mess.

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I don't know if you are wrong about the turn one thing, but I sure hope so. I did look up the night scythe and officially it's ability trumps the other rules.

Nice video, can you add to the video analytics statistics how many units inflict wounds on the enemy? Like a video "Kill stats Skorpekh Destroyers" on your channel. Thanks

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Their bad stats overall for 75 points a pop. Every time I've used my 2 spiders they always underperform, even the auras. Even if you could have 3 in a group they might survive long enough to do something with their 5" move, unupgraded ranged weapon with 18" range still where the exact same weapon on other units have 24". Save your points for something actually useful.

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Wait, you can only deep strike it in turn three? Or did I misunderstanding something

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you know what would be neat to try with the Psychomancer? paring it with a skorpekh lord to contest primary objectives. and 18" is pretty good to attempt battle-shock of enemies overwatching the charging skorpekh destroyers, lead by the lord, into their next target. and if it's successful on the charged target, theu can't use command rerolls on failed saves

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Should have some sort of regen save and be lore accurate

I’m pretty sure the real answer is “none”. Spyders at 75 are just good enough if they can give their buff to 2, maybe 3 vehicles

This thing sucks rn

I want to make a fluff army with a couple of these and a psychomancer in a hypercrypt and call it my Jumpscare Army

As a CSM player, running a Sorcerer with Legionaries has been really good for me, especially with the Fellhammer detachment rule. So a Chronomancer for me is definitely an interesting pick as I build my Necron list.

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Even if they had a 6+ FNP I feel like this would GREATLY influence me to take them. They're just so squishy and an eye catcher so they get shot down so early.

If you could increase the number of scarab swarms for free on a roll of a 2+ ( as per 3rd edition rules)

have you tried attaching him to some lychguard with the shields

Big Guns never tire works, but since his ranged attacks have blast he has to target units outside of engagement with a -1 to hit. I was amazed on how many ranged attacks each once puts out before considering blast. For some reason GW changed a lot of Canoptek Monsters keywords into vehicles. I beliee the Doomsday Stalker and the Reanimator also have the vehicle keyword. Another Nerf...

How many times can you use Protcol of the Undying Legions? I'm guessing 3 times in a battleround? Once in the enemy shooting phase, once in the enemy Fight Phase and once during your fight phase?

You could always use the strat from awakened dynasty that gives them Assault so they can advance and shoot. You can also tank shock because it's a vehicle.

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Pretty much my exact thoughts, but glad to hear it from the people's champion

I hope one day my big flying pyramid will get invul save, at least, 5+ against range like knights.

problem with the spider is that it moves too slow :(