Which Necron Unit Is The Most Durable In Warhammer 40k?

[@avj_mod5104]

Wraiths + Technomancer + Cryptothralls , especially in Awakened Dynasty with Stealth Enhancement .

[@Planet40K]

Feel like 60 points is a lot for those 2 bucket boys

[@zissoulander]

cryptos don't have fly so your movement is throttled by including them with wraiths

[@avj_mod5104]

@Planet40K yeah but it additionally locks cull the horde (this unit has 30 wounds)

[@hobbybro3902]

Ran 2 *6 wraiths and technomancer, one had dimensional sanctum. My other unit was a squad of 10 lynchguard sword and board with overlord with translocation shroud. Talk about clogging the middle. Against Voltan neither wraiths or lynguard would die. When I brought up the second squad of wraiths it’s was about to be all over for the space dwarves, then time ran out in our game turn 3. With those3 units soaking up all the fire and not dying allowed my doomstalkers and heavy destroyers to eliminate anything that was not in melee. Both side rolled some awesome saves.

[@dominicbenson3246]

I love the deceiver and OC 6 as well. Just don’t want to get a finecast model

[@avlaenamnell6994]

try 3rd party? lots of good ctan models out there

[@nathangontarz4127]

Wraiths and Techno getting points nerfs last few dataslates have toned them down. I'd be curious about a unit of 10 immortals with a chronomancer and Szeras standing nearby

[@leedolian4482]

Just getting into WH and im choosing necrons. This is very exciting

[@Planet40K]

Welcome

[@andreascoachdreas3331]

great Video! Lychguard in Awakened Dynasty with Stealth and a Reanimator are really hard to shift

[@zissoulander]

Ever since Bananaman dodged the points increase that he's a steal at 265. Yeah he's not the biggest damage dealer but he has surprisingly good melee and a niche-but-useful precision ranged attack for killing weak leaders.

[@jonpeacock5580]

technomancer and wraith feels a bit over costed now honestly, but one thing this math doesn't take into account is that they get an extra heal from the technomancer too

[@Planet40K]

Yeah that d3 is nice I’m always unlucky and have fully healed models so I can’t use it

[@anthonywarne9751]

Looking forward to seeing refreshes on all the units!

[@Raws2000.]

awesome video love the content

[@Planet40K]

Cheers pal

[@theta1672]

I'm playing Hypercrypt Legion, and have been using a 20-blob of warriors with a Chronomancer and having Illuminator Szeras close by and found them to be incredibly tanky. Out of 6 tried games (practicing for a tournament) they've gone down 2 times only! For the point cost they've pulled their weight for sure!

[@Planet40K]

Stealth vs Orikans 4++ is an interesting comparison

[@theta1672]

@@Planet40K Thanks! It's a few points cheaper, and also I don't have Orikan :D And it's not stealth per se, it's a -1 on all attacks, melee too :)

[@zissoulander]

@@theta1672 with the added bonus of +1AP for their str4 guns which is something, especially with lethals

[@theta1672]

@@zissoulander yea I use the 12" guns that has AP1 to begin with, so it becomes AP2, and can pack quite the unexpected punch :)

[@stevenburton7725]

I love warriors. Between Szeras, Chronomancers, Ghost Arks, and Res Orbs, those guys are damn near unkillable

[@Dewoy1]

Glad to have you back! Will there be any tyranid content in the future too, or just cronnies?

[@Planet40K]

For now it’s crons. Terrible mistake merging channels. Need to rebuild the channel. Back to basics.

[@newvegasify1]

It depends on the weapon big las cannons the Deceiver, low ap bolters then the Monolilth.

[@defiantdeviance6059]

I take the lynchguard with imotekh in awakened for all that juicy extra CP. The keyword on him is noble, so it works. Also chronomancer with a blob of immortals with szeras nearby in awakened is prett tanky, surprisingly.

[@avlaenamnell6994]

i prefer imotekh in immortals, make use of his good shooting compared to a normal lord

[@tylerwilliams9827]

I still play with the Awakened Dynasty. Currently running two Lychguard x10 squads with overlord and the wraith x6 with technomancer. Usually I find the wraiths melt away faster than the Lychguard simply from fewer models in the unit. Going to be running them in a fairly casual tournament at the end of September. I have taken the overwhelm the opponent with big threats strategy though, so its possible they are ignoring the Lychguard to deal with Doomsday Arks, the wraiths or the Nightbringer and that lets the Lychguard punch way above their weight on both sides of the board.

[@zissoulander]

forcing the opponent into awkward target priority is one of our main strategies (both for necron and the greater game in general). Do they go after the c'tan than can do big damage but not really hold points, or go for the unit that's holding a point but cant do big damage? Making it a bad choice either way is the best way to win games.

[@WorHammer40k]

Great Video mate!

[@Planet40K]

🤘❤️

[@lilaotearoa5399]

Did you subtract 1 from damage on the overlord with each shot?

[@Planet40K]

very good spot i dont think i did, think i was looking at the translocation shroud datasheet, so that overlord alone is even tougher

[@lilaotearoa5399]

@Planet40K tbf, I think the translocation shroud one is used more often with lychguard to actually get them where they need to be. But if we are talking pure staying power then the regular overlord is the go to yeah

[@Planet40K]

your 100% spot on there

[@severdislike4222]

Surprised that banana-man does so well in here. A pleasant surprise mind you considering how actually well done the deceivers fluff to rules are this edition. Annoyingly tanky, irritating translocation ability, decent damage output (Not overbearing, just decent.) I might... actually have to use them in a game or three and see how it goes.

[@Planet40K]

same, just scared to buy him incase they update the ctan models lol

[@missingone9185]

​​@@Planet40K dude same. The Deceiver is the only C'tan shard I don't have and I'd rather not risk buying one in case of a C'tan refresh, but seeing fellow Necron players achieve amazing results with him makes it harder to resist buying one.

[@severdislike4222]

@@Planet40K The good news is - Mine is ancient. We're talking "Made of Pewter" ancient. This is also the bad news XD

[@zissoulander]

@@severdislike4222 I'd love an OG metal one. I managed to get a metal nightman for cheap a few years ago and I never want the finecast version.

[@chrisbeau76]

Also helps the Deceivers significantly cheaper and has a Precision Power which can combine well with Deathmark Snipers. Hmmm, he might do well in the Obeisance Phalanx which focuses on killing enemy heroes and getting rewarded..(technically each time you destroy an enemy character your opponent must discard a point of CP in this Detachment)

[@DMDuncan37]

Thanks you 👍

[@-Kidzin]

I dream of a day when Praetorians will be great.

[@Planet40K]

Give them a 5+ fnp and I’m happy

[@chrisbeau76]

I' have mixed feelings about them. This is their best data sheet that they have ever had, especially compared to 9th. All the abilities you see on their Data sheets are new. Plus there is their 10" Jump packs, er I mean anti-gravity Boosters. Deep Strike - New Reroll Charge Rolls - New Fall back and Charge (Helps them regain first strike) Both Weapon loadouts are good, Pistol and Blade have higher volume of attacks with 3 Pistol shots with Dev Wounds and the Blade has 4 attacks. Both deal 1 damage. Rod the Covenant has a 12" ranged attack with a pretty good weapon profile and deals 2 damage. Rod has 3 melee attacks using the same high ap and 2 damage. I think with all their abilities and no durability, GW is still valuing them a little too highly. especially since they cant have any characters. According to their lore, maybe they should also be buffing other nearby Necron units considering they didn't go into hibernation mode and were literally awake this entire time defending and dormmate Tombworlds. I'd rather try 10 Lychguard with Scythes attached to a Overlord with Transshroud which helps make up for one of their weakest stats which is a 5" Move.

[@avlaenamnell6994]

@@chrisbeau76 praetorians are good, just a bit pricey, either a points drop or a fnp would be nice on them

[@jaesistich3218]

Hi 😁

[@Planet40K]

hey hey, we are back in the game

[@Gotham_Media]

Are wraiths overrated?!

[@Planet40K]

i still use atleast 2 units in a game, those fnp saves really squiff the maths up

[@9237]

​@@Planet40Kgood unit, but almost no damage

[@Planet40K]

I don’t use them for damage They sit on 2/3 no man’s obj and soak up everything while holding primary

[@Damnedlegion40k]

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