I think "scammed" is the wrong descriptor here. The buyer didn't gain anything. You didn't get scammed, you got screwed.

My condolences

My LCS is run by scammers. I took a 5 oz atb p series in and they claimed they didn't know what it was. Then offered me $80.00

Its almost more upsetting that so many people are so stupid...yea super cheap morgan dollars from china, that makes sense...😮‍💨

Im dealing with a scammer that asked for a refund but still sent the coin to his grand kids. Now i have to wait few more days for the 35 day return policy to be up amd to go from there. It is really sad how some 1 can ask for a refund ,get it and still keep the merchandise. I have no idea what this world is going to except 4 he// anymore

Very fortunate you were able to recover the funds. Coin auctions are a tiny part of ebay so I think the powers there don't see the advantage of improvement. I, as you have along with many others here in the comments have been taken advantage of on ebay. I sold Morgan dollars, Mexican libertabs and other coins for over 10 years on there but came to an abrupt stop a couple years ago. I grew tired of the increasing scammers. On the flip side , I don't understand how some sellers continually get away with noticably deceptive pictures..the name a couple, Morgan Dealer, Auction Kings Rare Coins... I'm sure there's more but I see these two all the time. Lastly, it does no good reporting scam auctions such as fake coins. I bet I've reported over 30 this year and never saw one pulled down.

Ebay used to be for private sellers to sell their stuff. Now it is trying to compete with Amazon and failing. Ebay is making itself irrellevant by treating its private sellers like this

Drapped bust also is my favorite

Good vid ,ive got to the point i only buy pcgs true view+ngc pictured coins,if pics dont look exactly the same with same marks etc on coin its a no go for me. greed ruining a fun hobby for thousands ☹️

It sounds to me like the only reason you won is because they cracked the coin out of the ANACS slab. The problem with eBay is (1) They initially give the benefit of the doubt to buyers in all disputes; (2) Most of what they do is automated; (3) It is a P.I.T.A. to get a real live person at eBay; (4) When you do finally get a person to help, they don’t really understand the numismatic market and the in’s and out’s of coin grading, TPG’s, etc.; (5) eBay sort of has an unspoken expectation that sellers should just suck it up and absorb the loss from the occasional buyer who scams you. It is my view that all of this encourages scammers to play games with sellers hoping to profit from it. eBay should bring back the option for sellers to leave negative feedback for bad buyers. They also need to train and employ customer service reps for numismatic transactions specifically. eBay is the world’s biggest online coin marketplace. There is no excuse for them just assigning some know-nothing to handle your dispute.

That’s a 64 all the way

thanks for sharing this is a new one to me im glad you were able to get your money back in the end and your coin

Your making this more difficult than it needs to be. Break the coin out of the pcgs holder and send it back to anacs for reholder service. Problem solved.

A lot of people don’t realize you can with NGC put in the certificate number and look at real photo of the coin and see what it really looks like but most either don’t or don’t know you can I got 2 1938 d buffalo nickels from them no problem nice coins try to get a 37 d and man o man where the crap hit fan picture was of a nice coin buy one I got was cleaned and i think buffed also so I emailed guy they said send it back I said nah I rather leave a bad review and be out 25 bucks they begged me to just send coin back I sold coin for 6 bucks left bad review tired of people thinking it’s ok to rip coin collectors off I would have bought a lot coins and I told them that don’t sell me crap I will never ever ever buy a penny from these clowns again even if it was free

Only idiots and fools buy and sell on ebay.

I just bought my first fake PCGS coin on ebay, I find it depressing that an ebay dealer stoops this low, it's going back tomorrow. Mine was in a generation 4.5 holder, the color was way off on the lable, the date had too much space between the 1 and the 9, the hologram was a cheap sticker and wasn't printed toward the top, the coin wasn't silver, the barcode on the front didn't scan using the pcgs app because it wasn't a real barcode.

That's what you get for selling on Ebay. Or any other so called, "Social media site"

eBay has bad issues I have ran into some crazy issues I was reporting fraud to eBay you know the kind where they say NGC buffalo nickels MS68 coin look great grade and it is a slick buffalo nickel barely can see date when all the sudden my button to report this fraud was suddenly taking away also they pulled the post your card and we will automatically debt your card soon sale over well I had to fight them on that see seller gets days to ship coin and buyer has 3 days to pay but they wanted to suddenly debt cards I said no heck no eBay will allow anything as long they get paid who cares they don’t crazy glad it worked out

Great that it worked out at the end. Ebay can be problematic at times.

Great story Are you going to break it out and resubmit to ANACS to see if they will re-grade it?

I believe PCGS has 2 different crossover services. One is Straight Cross and the other is Cross at any Grade. First one if they say No Cross, they ship the coin back, as holdered. The second, they reholder at their grade, attribution, error etc. He must have chosen the 2nd.

Great video! Brand new to your channel. If you wouldn’t sell high end coins on eBay, where would you sell them?

😲😲😲What the fk that's some bullshit. I have never heard anything like that. I SELL COINS ON EBAY. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.

Very unethical of him!

how is this your problem? i dont understand, a buyer can not crack it out no possible or its the buyers problem

Best thing to do with all listings is to include a 95% restocking fee with all descriptions on all listings. Happily take the item back, but as long as you have the restocking fee, you'll only lose 5%. It's unlikely scammers will ever buy from you if you have a restocking fee.

buyers dont have much to lose, sellers do though, I get scammed from time to time, some are more clever than others, its an enormous taxing waste of time and energy but that's how it goes with ebay, I don't sell expensive items for this reason

Sold in the past years ago, Definitely skewed to the buyer. Only got screwed on one or two sold items out of a couple hundred. Luckily not too much money.

I sold a PS3 on eBay many years ago and they claimed it was not as described gutted the whole thing took out the hard drive and put in a bad hard drive and then sent it back really really cheap and underhanded but that was when they had PayPal recently they poured melted plastic on a high-end coin I bought but it didn't affect the bidding at all I still got it for a good deal and I think they put a shield bitter in there and then I complained and then they took the ad down I didn't get ripped off but still it was extremely weird

I never sell anything with a value over $200 online because of people like this.

Hello - I have 3 Morgans all the same date and grade - ANACS - PCGS - NGC - The ANACS and NGC look the same - The PCGS coin is DEFINITELY Over Graded - ALL my Barber half dollar coins are graded by PCGS - some of the G 4 coins look better than the G 6 or VG 8 coins - There are many Morgan VAM's that PCGS with NOT list on the label - Thanks for sharing your story

I don't see why ANACS wouldn't just reslabbed for you with original grading??? Why not?

I stopped selling on eBay in 2021 bc of the scammers. It's not worth it.

This is a horrific story. He should ONLY be able to send it back if it is in the ANACS graded holder uncracked. This is what you sold him - the ebay rules are very clear if it is in the holder of the 4 main grading agencies it isn't your problem as a seller with the possible exception of an extremely damaged holder such that the coin is unsealed. Sorry for what happened to you.

Simple solution never sell to buyers or sellers with less than 50 feedback and or transaction feedbacks

Sounds like that's not your original coin to me

Can't hear ya...

Note: I’ve returned a few graded coins because of either PVC damage (old holders) or missed scratches and cleanings. Doesn’t happen often and I never blame the seller but I do point out that I don’t like how the coin looks in hand compared to the pictures and nicely ask to return it. I also offer to cover return shipping

why would you pay $1000 for that coin?

Interesting story and great lessons here all around. I don’t feel bad for eBay one bit about having to eat the $1100 with as much money as they make and outsourcing those jobs to foreign countries like India ect.

This could have been a really bad experience. Glad that it worked out the way it did.

With ANACS, I bought a 1925-S peace dollar for around $200. I had a feeling the coin had been cleaned since all of the seller's coins were so bright white. When I looked at the coin under a microscope, I could tell it had been cleaned. it looks bright white but there are tiny black stain patches. I don't trust ANACS grading quality and standards. I only do NGC or PCGS, preferably PCGS.

Glad you got your funds back, I’m very familiar with eBay policies as I sell a lot and yes it’s a pain in the arse to deal with eBay when buyers do stupid shit. Good on you for cutting through the bs

I would love to buy that anacs/ pcgs 1972 D coin from you as a case study.. venmo? Paypal?..

People collect what they want. PCGS does not put much on a coin label but ANACS does, maybe it's a different coin. I would never pay that kind of money for a Kennedy. CC Morgan would be better. I know people pay $2000 for a 2020 cent or such but it would have to be something really special that you can look and see easily. Just my opinion but if I sold on EBAY I would only sell simple graded coins like he sent back, but I agree this guy should send it back to ANACS and reholder it, EBAY has a lot of problems, that's why I would only sell straight coins, no struck though grease for $1000 extra, I don't know what makes the coin expensive, there are probably only a few people that would mean anything to. I mean no offense, just my opinion. Sorry.

Does PCGS cross over from any other company but NGC? If I was sent a different coin than the one I sold. And this includes removal from holder. He would have to eat that one.

I am glad this worked out for you. This is really a good story for all sellers to hear.

You lucked out on this one and didn’t even have to pay them a personal visit. That’s definitely a win.

What stops the buyer from keeping the real coin and returning a Temu coin?

Ebay should at least enforce a policy that once a coin is removed from its holder in the original sale (whether by the purchaser or by a grading service), it's considered sold and not returnable for any reason unless it's counterfeit.