Great explanation with lots of details about the Canadian solar panel. I am wondering how well they would be suitable for our SE QLD coastal environments and how they deal with salt spray and sand dust. The datasheet does not mention anything in that regards compared to other panels like Trina which mention suitability for coastal environments.

Fronius sucks so hard at an interface level, evidenced by 'the hold your tongue the right way' comment

Great Video Mark! Keep up the good work.

Good stuff MCE

Rheem stainless 250l element is $1500 and $200 for home assistant plug setup.

In Western Australia, Synergy have introduced varying, 2c offpeak & 10c peak from 3pm-9pm (though given the sun ain't shining from 8pm onwards it's a joke), feed in tariff rates so Fronius not giving you the ability to input this as it does with the reference tariff kinda sucks as it means you cannot accurately gauge how much you are saving.

Great info, can you do a review of Sigenergy's new battery. The first of its kind 25kw DC EV charger that connects to it is pretty epic and the inverter is encased in the same stack.

Car companies say batteries are in the $100 / kW range. Why is a powerwall still $1000 per kW?

Love my Zappi charger for our Hyundai IONIQ Electric 2018.

lol your a con ok get off and stop telling people BULLSHIT!!!

I keep getting authentication failed when I put my password in

Really great video chaps, if and when I am “forced” into some kind of EV, I will opt for a hybrid

Could someone please answer my question? We're building an all-electric home in Melbourne's south-east, opted in to use three-phase power. Now I'm doubting if I truly need the 3-phase. We are installing a 10kw solar system and considering putting the Tesla P3 as a battery backup. My concern is that one phase can power all of our electrical appliances, including heat pumps and split systems [23sq single storey home].Thank you!

Hmmm 60k for 60kwh of batteries or BYD atto 3 with 60.5kwh battery for 50k to power your house.

Can’t wait for Fronius to release a bidirectional charge for V2H

My fronius primo indicates that the wifi is on, its blue ... but i cant see anything on my phone, it says on the app data transfer interrupted

I just switched from a fronius primo to a powerwall3. The only downside to the powerwall is the lack of built in nerd tools. Fronius can send data to different systems based on a bunch of triggers. No opportunity for that from the Tesla which is a real shame.

Oh u are so anti China its unreal. I get it u love tesla so do compare other makes

Everything fronius looks bad, but that wattpilot is terrible. It’s expensive but looks like a toy. Software is good with fronius but fronius price themselves out of the market.

Back up power... ill keep my $87 change over switch and $370 kings genny

Batteries make sense financially 😂😂😂

Hi MC, Please state the battery chemistry of each system - that is a major deficiency of this info video.

Use batteries from your EV. V2L and V2G is the future. Don’t waste your money by listening to these guys.

Does the PW3 work with a Fronius? I have 2 inverters

Everyone! kW is a unit of power, kWh is a unit of energy! You can't measure the capacity of a battery in kW, although the inverter has a power limit in kW. :) While we are here the W in kW is capitalised... Thanks!

After having solar from you guys my bill at the most is $80 and that includes service charges. So $50 per month. The absolute most I can save is $6000 over 10 years.

oh, neat, you're Brisbane based

I disagree with the notion that a Tesla battery and single phase Fronius is of limited value in a 3phase home. It is safe and possible to put essential appliances on one phase. It is far easier to control usage during an outage as you have already excluded the hungry appliances such as aircon and ovens ect. As is stated on the video sometimes a grid outage is not obvious so it is possible to put a higher drain on the battery than is desirable if you are unaware, especially if you are not at home to manually switch off equipment. In our case, all lighting and a ring main water pump and fire pumps are on one phase. A $50 portable induction cooktop serves as emergency cooking. It is early days for V2H so will be interesting to see how /if v2L will integrate!

One more thing, what is the Fronius/BYD combo like for adapting to load changes vs the Tesla? Have seen some Fronius Gen24 (especially 3 phase) have a slow reaction time to load changes. So they tend to use more power from the grid then the battery when you hit them with a load change, ie hot plate cycling, even though the load is well within what the inverter can deliver.

I suspect installers are going to like one solution being easier to install and commission (in one day rather than two) could be a factor in pricing.

GoodWe three phase hybrid inverter plus GoodWe battery destroys both of your options by some margin. I suggest a system over 20kW if you have a fully electric house & 2x electric cars

The Tesla set up is great . BYD is like the very early days of android for people like to tinker with it .

I’m in a bit of a holding pattern, waiting to see if VTG makes home batteries redundant or if they should still be used as a complete solution.

Few differences not discussed here. Or fully at least. Fore blackouts are not a problem they are so rare these days. Secondly most people’s houses are single phase so that’s moot too. Accepted rural properties are 3 phase but they usually have enough money to do whatever. I have byd and fronius but Tesla better to work with the likes of amber. Byd and fronius now supported but I have two inverters so not supported by amber.

Where are these meant to be mounted? I've been form 3'd to remove these when installing them on the meter panel as that area is not allowed in a standard size meter panel?

Tesla backup is instant, my modem and computers continue running, lights don't even flicker at all...

@mcelectrical can Tesla be in salt water? Or fresh water only?

Musk what a great guy

Sorry, would not buy Tesla under any circumstances.

Even solar is a hard sell right now. My power in qld is down to 8c/kw between 12-6am and completely free between 11am and 2pm.

So do you want to buy China’s BYD, from the worlds largest EV Car manufacturer, or from Musk’s Tesla? Moral dilemma

Can you guys get your hands on some sigenergy battery systems and do some videos on them? They look insane!

Is there any non-Chinese inverters and batteries that can be compared to Tesla? I've had enough of Chinese made stuff, their quality is usually low and warranty is hard to claim.

Im live in Darwin with 3 phsae power into the house and currently have a 6.6kW system with a Fronius 5kW single phase inverter. I was looking at upgrading my system adding 14kW of panels and using the new Sungrow SH15T 3 phase inverter and the new SBH150 or SBH200 Sungrow battery. This theoretically would allow me to keep my existing panels to increase the input to 20kW. Have you had any experience with the new Sungrow inverter and 5kW battery modules? Also reading the specs it seems to allow you to power the whole house on all phases during a blackout compared to the previous Sungrow battery and inverter that I was told limited your blackout power to 1000W. Does this sound about right? Would you recommend to go with the biggest battery option you can afford or would this be a waste of money? Unfortunately we pay a flat 27.x cents/kWh regardless the time with a feed in rate at 8.5 cents/kWh limited to 7kWhr/day. With my current thinking right or wrong the more battery the better as long as your system can supply your daytime power requirements as well as charge your battery for night time use and not draw a kWh from ther grid? Is this a reasonable way of thinking or is it way off?

Hi Mark/Yorick, does it make sense to just have a battery without solar connections? Like charging up the battery during off peak and use that for the house and the car?

I wish you had talked about charging during a blackout... I have 3phase and have been told the Tesla battery will not charge from my panels during a blackout but a BYD would...seem pointless if it was a multi day power out

I loved your video Mark Bunting (not to be confused with Mark Cavanah)

Put Elon Musk on a rocket to Mars and I will consider Tesla.

I'd have the BYD, thanks.

None of the power walls are cost effective for me, and likely never will be with how often I turn over homes, and what’s left of my life, power is cheap off the grid with some basic panels.