That's a great choice and I looked at that. It is not front focal plane and with a max magnification of 15, that might not be the worst thing but it is what kept if off my list.

Glad it helped. The more I shoot this rifle, the more I like it. It keeps doing everything I need.

24 ounces on the Trijicon web site so US, three ounces lighter, yes but only 60 MOA of total elevation adjustment. Very limiting. Finding the right scope for this project is still frustrating.

@@cliffy109 I'm just saying I had this exact delema u did. And believe me I had 6 others on there until I settled on this.. ur either going to be heavy and have everything you want. Or light with hardly any options. This is the closest you can come to that with having some good options. The only other option for light weight was the razor lht, but when I had hands on with it the trijicon had it beat. Also I think the optika 6 was another close runner but I wanted a tree reticle.. I mean u can go up like 17.5 mils on mine and then if u really need more u got the tree for holdover. But it sounds good but realistically are you really going to be shooting 1000 plus yards regulary, it sounds sexy, but for me isn't realistic I usually don't go farther than 500, 90% of the time. I know it can be annoying.. I wish Leopold made a better freaking reticle in their vx5 or whatever line cause that was another nice scope but it's just a cross hair and dot. And the trijicon for being a 30mm and 44mm objective is one of the brightest crispest scopes I have looked through... please go on rockslide I believe and read the guys review of the tenmile, itl win u over haha

That’s the Ergo Zero angle grip. No storage

I think this is a little overblown though. It seems like lots of roles for precision rifles are stationary ones. I don’t think anything under 20 lb is crazy for that. My FN SPR w/ scope, bipod, suppressor, and mag is 18 lb. It’s very similar to the FN that won the FBI contract. When you need stability and consistency mass is your friend.

Long story and I wanted to stick with the 308 but the more I looked at it, the more I realized that the 6.5 does everything the 308 does but it does it with less recoil and a flatter trajectory at long range. Cost has come WAY down on the 6.5 and match ammo is now in par with the 308. The only thing the 308 has over it is the availability of milsurp fodder.

@@cliffy109 You would say that they have similar amounts of stopping power?

@@AndreKieli I don’t think any animal would notice the difference if you put the round in the vital zone

6.5 Creed

@@cliffy109 nice I have the same!

Are you stipid?

Yeah... the audio clipping doesn't do it justice.

Definitely sounds much quieter

This is the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen

Not everybody shoots an AR

It is a Ruger Precision Rimfire which is set up to match the ergonomics of my long range rifle so I can train with it at a fraction of the ammo expense and noise and I can train in my back yard instead of a trip to the range. I'm a bit baffled that this was even a question. LOL

It's a bolt action rifle are you high?

​@@hhill5489 it looks like a Cali key AR

This dude really thinks ar-15’s are the only gun ever made

OH goodness... that's a pretty vague question. Send me an email with your contact info at [email protected] and we'll talk.

@@cliffy109 I sent you an email! Thanks for responding.

Congratulations 🎊

You could try but probably a bit bulky. Maybe not horrible because of where that bulk is located but I prefer thin and trim. Your body type will have an impact on this

An AR is certainly a better choice as a combat rifle. As I keep stressing in the longer version of this video, there are better choices for any specific situation. What the Cross brings to the table is the ability to function reasonably well across all the specialties.

@@cliffy109 Weather it be a Scout Rifle, your Machaira Rifle, or the Cross, The semi auto carbine starts out on top inside pistol range and quickly fades beyond CQB

The new one has a couple of real upgrades. An actual Picatinny trail and threading on the barrel that doesn’t require an adapter are big improvements

That CZ would make an excellent utility rifle. In the way I've defined it, not so much a general purpose rifle but excellent for what you're describing. This illustrates a point though. "General purpose" doesn't have a definition. What your general purposes may be might be very different than mine or the next guy. I've tried to define it very broadly to encompass anything a rifle could reasonably be expected to do. The CZ would be a better choice as a farm use UTV rifle but the Cross could do it. Same is true of a variety of uses. There are better choices for each specific task, but when looking at one rifle to handle ALL tasks, you'd be hard pressed to find a better choice than the Cross.

There is almost nothing in this price range with the adjustability and user configuration of the Sig Cross.

What options would you take over this for the price?

Thanks for the note!

I just looked it up and apparently it isn’t made now.

Looks like this one at Midway ads.midwayusa.com/product/1024109689

Wow. Thanks for the kind words. I actually did a cartridge video that addresses exactly what you’re asking. The good news is, you really can’t go wrong with either. I like the Creed a lot but wouldn’t be unhappy with the 308. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJicmqmGhLSGrZosi=p086rMc5_uBU9Zr3

@@cliffy109 awesome! Thanks for the response. Missed the video. Will watch now

LOL... "tell me you've never shot a rifle with a suppressor without telling me you've never shot a rifle with a suppressor." So let's address this seriously. The Cross comes with an 18" barrel which is 4" shorter than most common rifles. The suppressor adds 5.5" so you're only 1.5" longer than a typical rifle. How much does 4" of a mid-weight rifle barrel weigh? Probably pretty close to the same 8.3 ounces of that suppressor. Remember, this is for a true general purpose rifle and that means it is expected to do everything fairly well. Long range shooting has very different requirements than one that is for hunting inside 300 yards and that means trying to figure out where compromises can be made without destroying the handling characteristics for the close stuff. It is a fine line. Recoil mitigation, blast control, scope features, stable bipods, stock design and other things are not a concern for a hunting rifle but they are if you're looking for one gun to handle it all.

I’m glad I gave you a chuckle. Muzzle brakes are horrible but most rifles don’t wear them, thank god. If the only choice is a muzzle brake or a suppressor, the question may be whether it is worth it. I have a 29 1/2 inch barrel Swedish Mauser M96 that is so wonderfully balanced that it’s nine plus pounds aren’t that noticeable until it is held vertically when taking it from the car to the range and back. It is so long, the muzzle nearly drags on the ground in African carry. In the field, I do not carry or use bipods, tripods or shooting sticks but do use a sling. My view on a practical general purpose rifle is closer to Cade Cole’s Mossberg than anything that is long, with a large heavy scope and heavy. Your rifle fits your needs and you are obviously very happy with it. We can differ in our opinions and leave it at that. I have a great deal of respect for the amount of thought and effort and dedication to rifle shooting, especially in the Scout Rifle subject, you have shown in past several years. Yes, I have shot and been around suppressed rifles (and those bloody muzzled braked monstrosities) to the point where the failure point with AR DI platforms becomes annoying.

If you don’t like muzzle breaks or suppressors, you can just take them off and put on a thread protector. This is also a very compact, lightweight rifle.