50:00 I still find this so interesting; did you figure out which door this is? It is the one that Ulrich tried to get through; so if Claudia hadn't asked "Aleksander" to weld it shut, Ulrich might have gotten through with the crowbar and found the barrels; which also means we found out while Charlotte was here why Ulrich couldn't succeed and here we just figured out how that was welded shut

It usually doesn't if you do not adhere to the "do not look at that scene" nonsense. (And if people wouldn't look at it mid episode after entering the episode they are currently watching... not sure why people keep doing that). The show can not spoil itself. That is not how spoilers work. That being said, people could simply go back to the murder wall in 1x01, and since Fabio and Manny are on season two, they have already seen the collection of family pictures, which is another neat visual reference.

If anything happens to Gretchen I'm quitting this show

I agree! Idk if you saw the episode 1 reaction but one of the people who recommended this show to me compared it to Stranger Things, so that's why that came up. I also love Stranger Things and I'm hoping to react to season 5 on the channel. And thank you!

Well that just makes him infinitely creepier.

@@ChannelNamePending699it’s convenient priest attire hasn’t changed throughout the decades, a priest outfit never looks out of place temporally

Even if we know her reasons I think the way she treats him is unjustified. Especially after raising him that long - idk maybe the mindset on having children out of wedlock was different back then but it still makes me feel gross.

@@ChannelNamePending699 She is indeed a cold woman, even her stiff bra fits her character 😀

​@@ChannelNamePending699 what the show and the comment is implying is that she was raped. She says the trauma is in her head every day when she sees him. Bernd is 'protected her from the shame' by pretending helge is his, but it was the war, women and children were raped, horrible things happened to everyone in all of Europe and the trauma of violence is very much still a thing in our parents and grandparents Generation.

Ah, that puts it into perspective, thank you - I think that implication was lost on both of us. That certainly makes her more sympathetic, even if Helge still doesn't deserve the treatment he gets from her.

there is audio, if you don't hear it it might be a problem with your device

That's the joke 😭

@@ChannelNamePending699 thank god, I can't tell if people are joking lately on the internet

Season two is arguably the best season of the series. And I was simply not prepared for that huge twist either in episode four. 😲

26:53 I really love that grandfather clock; it is not often enough in this show; so far it has only been in three episodes and I commented on it in two; now... can you tell me where it was seen before?

on another note; since I assume you filmed your 1x10 reaction already; otherwise ignore this cause it contains spoilers ... I was so confused when we saw the 1953 bunker version here; after Charlotte showed us that the 2019 version didn't contain the cyan room nor the murder wall I was rather surprised... again;

34:30 well... this specific incident might seem like an ontological paradox (especially when you ask who first said "Ich kann die Vergangenheit ändern und die Zukunft") but it is equally possible that it it not a closed temporal loop but a series of iterative time loops;

I never realized but one might say that in 1x03 when the front door is unlocked at the Nielsen home in 1986 Egon walks in like he owns the place...

you might wanna check out some Doctor Who at some point; if you don't wanna watch through all of (what is available of) Classical Who (1963-1989) nor all of New Who (2005 - today) you might wanna start with series 5 because then you might enjoy an episode titled "Let's kill Hitler" (which really doesn't make any sense whatsoever if you haven't seen at least series 5 and 6 up to this point); on an unrelated note, I can already see the headline: new evidence shows Hitler was driven by getting beat up as a kid; so maybe just don't do it;

I vividly remember the days when the show was dicsussed a lot on Facebook. There were so many people giving Egon crap for asking "such a dumb question" like "why not forest road?"; then on June 21 2019 season 2 came about and there were people genuinely hating on Egon again for how dumb he was and others who claimed they completely rewrote his character after being so dumb in season one; these were people who had already heard Regina saying Mads went missing in the forest; and had seen Helge (more or less) living in the Doppler cabin; and went through the reveal of this episode that Helge had most likely abducted Mads in the forest and taken him to the bunker near that cabin in the forest;

Interestingly enough the Satanic Panic became a thing outside the US rather in the 90s. So Egon is kinda ahead of his time here.

12:30 Usually people question whether she told anybody about that before going down into the cave... but the part where she mysteriously summons the gear is probably the part where she calls it in. Then again maybe it is standard equipment in a police cruiser in a town where they have their own cave system? Or maybe they had the gear on hand after they had searched the caves earlier this week!? This reminds me, did I mention this in epsiode 3? I rewatched the show with a friend of mine and in episode 3 when Claudia pressed Bernd on the numbers and is going down into the caves in her heels, he said: "And then Bernd stood up from his wheelchair and cut the rope." Would have made a plot twist. Bit "subverting the expectations" but still kinda neat. Oh and subverting the expectations (of the audience) is basically a derogatory term with us. Hollywood (show) writers weirdly think it was a good thing and use it like it was equal to "exceeding the expectations"; but it never is; it does what the label says: deliver such a bad plot twist that the audience lowers their expectations

13:55 well... different door from which door!?

16:55 and that my friends is a paradox; a seemingly logical contradiction; but it obviously is only a seemingly contradiction; for example in BTTF... have you seen BTTF? (EDIT... well you are basically quoting BTTF2; sadly Gale and Zemeckis completely made up two of the integral parts of those movies) well in one scenario the timeline would be rewritten without Jonas' existence; many things would be similar but Hannah e.g. might be drastically different if she never married Mikkel; which in turn might have changed other things around her; but the question is would Jonas seize to exist or simply hang around in a world where nobody knows him? this of course violates one of the core assumptions about time: causality the most liked scenario is rather similar but it solves your issue completely; if we assume this happens in an alternate timeline, then Jonas origin timeline would still exist from a non-linear viewpoint; only in this "new" timeline there would be the aforementioned differences... and Jonas would definitely hang out there without anybody knowing him because usually it is assumed that a time traveler can never return to a timeline once they left it; or we might find out that it is in one way or another impossible for Jonas to succeed in bringin back Mikkel; that all time travel was not only causal but also deterministic; this would of course violate a different assumption we have about time: free will or rather that all potential actions (or rather spontaneous reactions) were possible;

Will now be referring to this episode as Helge and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

We went back to look at that scene at 31:56, but we didn't make that specific connection until later 😅

@@ChannelNamePending699 🙂I just can say look very closely the whole show - it is like a huge jigsaw puzzle. You will recognise that the scenes are like little puzzle pieces - and all fit in a great complete picture!

@@MartsHH that's the best descrption of the show - its a puzzle, you get random pieces every episode, sometimes they connect with something you already know or with something that comes later, and sometimes you are misdirected because you don't have the full picture

no need to apologize, you should hear my heavy accent when speaking English 🤣. By the way, you are excellent in picking up even tiny details in the DARK story. For example the fact that Helge's dad, Bernd Doppler, already used a cane in 53 (sitting in a wheelchair in 86). Or the fact that 53 was just a few years after the war.

@@ChannelNamePending699 don't apologize, dudes 😃😄 it's okay... I mean, I say that as an American - so maybe my opinion doesn't count that much, but who knows how a German might take it. We know you never want to offend one, and how those "wily" Germans can be 🤣🤣 I jest, I jest with my ancestors.

Don't worry, I think we're used to English speakers mispronouncing names in Dark reactions 😅 most people do

@FLQueerLiberal1982 Why would you say something like that? Stop it.

It's easier to just let the German google translate voice pronounce it, I just checked, and it's the perfect pronunciation, so you can just practice copying that.

same! This show is THE BEST!

me too ^^

The Killing-Baby-Hitler Paradox. If you go back in time to kill baby Hitler then he would not have done those horrible crimes, so there would be no need to go back in time to kill someone who does not exist anymore in the future.... Now my brain hurts again with all those paradoxes 😀

I would try to stop it but in another way.

I recognized it from episode 1 but the symbolic meaning is new to me. Thank you!

That makes me very curious to see what they do with Mikkel's character over the course of the show. We've seen the beginning and end of his story, but he still feels so mysterious.