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@marktigges9453 2 күн бұрын

Have my forks apart and agree check plate With the 2 shims would delay direction change and poor flow. Do you make any parts to change it to spring check plate?

@Enduroracesuspension 5 күн бұрын

Great work Terry

@shocktreatment5495 2 күн бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@flintstoneengineering 6 күн бұрын

Nice solution.

@shocktreatment5495 2 күн бұрын

Thanks

@colfergusson4242 7 күн бұрын

Perfect 👍

@shocktreatment5495 2 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Ratpiss_utd 16 күн бұрын

Is it hard to take the bottom casting off the chrome inner tube or just screws off no problem?

@Teebonguyen 22 күн бұрын

What is the name brand of this shock? Can you tell me know the full name! I couldn’t find it! Thanks

@patrick_albert_golinski 12 күн бұрын

MATRIS DUMPERS.

@patrick_albert_golinski 12 күн бұрын

Matris dumpers M46R

@Teebonguyen 8 күн бұрын

@@patrick_albert_golinskithanks so much

@seazv 24 күн бұрын

Hi buddy what’s happen if you change the spring in wp forks that only have spring in one leg? The ktm 1290 Super adventure R 2021+ have preload adjustment in both legs but only one visible spring in one leg, I it is 6.5nm I’m looking to put 7.0nm, but I don’t know if that will cause problem as the other leg don’t have spring. Thanks

@LeoSteiner-x5i 28 күн бұрын

I got my AT new in 2016 - currently have 50k miles on her - and have had the shocks rebuilt twice (currently have Nitron cartridges but the sticktion issue is making the bike boarder line dangerous to ride) - I would love to have this done but dont know of any places here in the states that do this kind of repair.

@m1cky6 Ай бұрын

I've just bought a 23 Africa Twin, I guess i should be looking at getting this done sooner rather than later. Nice dogs, who would complain about having dogs in a video? Someone who likes to complain and is not happy unless they're unhappy I'm tipping! Cheers

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

All too true. Any machinist can do this for you but if you are close than we are more than happy to sort it for you. I would highly recommend some valving changes whilst you are in there.

@erkipalusoo Ай бұрын

Is there a point to drill a hole 2024 Ktm exc fork tube AS well? There are 3 holes from Factory near top of the tube...

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

Absolutely......The location of the hole is more relevant than the size. The pressure (both negative and positive) is being generated just behind the seal. The closer you get to the point of actuation the more effective it is.

@davidbrennan3650 Ай бұрын

Cheers, bringing factory rider info to the common racer. 👌

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

No problem 👍

@matthewcarrigan8568 Ай бұрын

Terry! Been watching your videos in America. Thank you! I have a couple questions: 1 sag is set and you go outside to test, is that the High Speed Compression you are adjusting? If rider likes increase in dampening (clockwise) what do you do to the setting of the sag at the shop? If rider likes decrease in dampening (counter-clockwise) what do you do to the setting of the sag at the shop? Finally, once sag is set where are you going with your high speed dampening? Where are you setting it at since the adjustment has now been compensated on sag.

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

I am adjusting sag via an Xtrig preload adjuster using an 8mm tbar. We are chasing ideal drive characteristics. This is done as a priority before any damping changes are made. Remember....on dirt bikes it is the sag that is the primary mechanism for swingarm angle adjustment. That's the whole point

@matthewcarrigan8568 Ай бұрын

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

Cheers Matthew

@stevenhart9004 Ай бұрын

Very useful information.

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@MarkSpencerAZ Ай бұрын

Excellent, thank you!! Sooo, on my 2024 300 XC-W, are you saying I would not benefit from the progressive rate spring if I am just your average trail rider?

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

It is not so much about suspension. The progression really assists with chain torque reactions. This is where a linkage shines. Any bike that doesn't have a linkage will benefit from a progressive spring.

@MarkSpencerAZ Ай бұрын

@@shocktreatment5495 Thank you!

@PA-Tammy 2 ай бұрын

Love my 16 so much going full ÖHLINS this winter...

@shocktreatment5495 Ай бұрын

They are a great bike....

@robsonenduro3316 2 ай бұрын

I am still a little bit fuzzy about relation between the front and rear suspension because obviously either setting affects the other....

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

They sure do!

@ChookChasersMX 2 ай бұрын

Hi Terry, when you say the latest rebound settings are a little questionable, are you able to enlighten us by what you mean by this? Cheers 🍻

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Basically the level of damping generated vs the level of damping required. Sometimes you may find that the amount of damping is fine but the balance between low speed and high speed is skewed which will affect traction and control

@skeelo221 2 ай бұрын

Makes sense. Curious if you still use this method? TwinAir specifically calls out to use a dry filter that: "DO allow the filter to properly dry after washing. Oiling the filter without allowing it to dry sufficiently will trap some of the moisture." But to me oil displaces water so I'm not really sure how it could trap the moisture. This video is 6 years old so just curious if this is still your go-to method?

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

This is still the best method I have found. Nothing here is static and we are always prepared to evolve if a better system, product, material etc comes along. I would be inclined to think Twin Air are accounting for the dunderheads that seem to be increasing at an exponential rate....

@Ride4life311 2 ай бұрын

Good Shit! Thank You!🙏

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Too easy...thank you

@MarkSpencerAZ 2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

No problem

@JanASS1991 2 ай бұрын

I need to improve on my suspension setup. I just refreshed videos about setting sag and my next ride I will be more aware of what's going on. Thank you for another video where you're sharing your knowledge about dirtbikes. Best regards for Shock Treatment Team and Rottweilers from the other side of the globe!

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Cheers! What bike do you have?

@JanASS1991 2 ай бұрын

@@shocktreatment5495 I have Husqvarna FC 250 from 2019. Great bike for weekend warrior. I don't ride often so when I'm riding, most of the times I'm to excited to think about suspension settings.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

@@JanASS1991 How heavy are you and what type of terrain are you riding on....sand / clay etc. Skill level? Do you prefer firm or plush?

@JanASS1991 2 ай бұрын

@@shocktreatment5495 Without riding gear I weight about 200 pounds. For this season I went with firmer spring as I've put some weight last year. :) Can't recall exact rating right now. Most of the time I'm riding clay to intermediate MX tracks. I'm really bad at riding sand. And I prefer firmer setting over plushness as I'm taking safety over comfort. I might be wrong with my thinking but getting big kick from the rear is my nightmare.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

@@JanASS1991 Sorry that I haven't replied before this. Try 100mm of sag. Forks all the way down with only the caps protruding above the clamps. 140 PSI in fork with comp at 16 out rebound 10 out. Shock HS Comp at 1 turn out LS Comp at 14 out Rebound 16 out

@kiwiadventurer 2 ай бұрын

I've come up to speed in understand the nuances of suspension so fast since hooking into your videos. You're the man........

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind comment.

@aaronbashnick7581 2 ай бұрын

I’ve talked to two local tuners (Arizona) and both recommended your cheap option, and they seemed think they could get excellent results that way. I can do the Gold Valve kit myself for cheaper they they quote, I’ve found good resources on how to, guess it ultimately comes down to good RTs shim recommendations work. Really not sure what to do.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

The shimstack that they supply will put you in the ballpark at a minimum. Potentially within a couple of clicks. If you find you wish to adjust the stack later on, you already have a baseline to adjust from.

@aaronbashnick7581 2 ай бұрын

So I installed the RT kit and test rode it yesterday. It really made a noticeable improvement. Can you remove the base valve on these forks without taking the top cap off the fork? For making base valve adjustments without draining oil.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

@@aaronbashnick7581 You can simply turn the fork upside down and remove the base valve. You won't lose any more than a few drops. Just make sure you clean the base perfectly before removing the base bolt.

@SAFCCHANNEL 2 ай бұрын

I come from Indonesia, I have a shockbreaker repair shop, this video adds to my insight into repairing shockbreakers, thank you

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Glad to help

@billdeck9766 3 ай бұрын

Did that in 1972 on a husky cr250 with a cotton strip and Vaseline. Yes it works.

@danbutler2934 3 ай бұрын

Awesome tips Terry thanks!

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

No problem 👍

@fasthally 3 ай бұрын

Still got mine in from years ago when Terry did my revalve!

@miro_s 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice explanation. Race tech or wp cc insert pro 6500? What would you recommend?

@motocrissenduro5651 3 ай бұрын

El Maestro 👏

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Thank you kind Sir!

@Dan_416 3 ай бұрын

Is the foam the type that would be used for a mx bike air filter? Just trying to figure out what type of foam to buy. Thanks

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Its just "Open Cell" foam similar to filter foam.

@LocalGarage 3 ай бұрын

Question: When you turn down a lower tube and knock the imperfections off with 400/800 grit paper, doesn't that create micro ridges on the chrome that will grind away at the inside of the fork seals?

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

They are as you say "Micro Ridges" and in between those ridges sits a film of oil which, as you are no doubt aware is non compressible. This allows the seal lip to glide over the ridges rather than drop down in between them. Its benefits have been well studied and proven. The effect is very similar to cylinder honing. It in fact promotes seal life rather than hamper it....but I understand your doubt here as it doesn't sound immediately logical.

@LocalGarage 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Terry. I learn a ton from your videos and appreciate you spreading your wealth of knowledge out to the masses

@ode4492 3 ай бұрын

I've always 'lightly' packed that void between the seals with grease. Not only to keep the dirt out but to prevent the snap ring from rusting. The foam is a good idea though.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Cheers mate

@loopeyshooter503 3 ай бұрын

Thanks again Terry for sharing your free pearls of wisdom.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

You are very welcome

@01joaootavio 3 ай бұрын

Doesn't that foam increase the friction on the fork?

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

As mentioned in the video...the foam is penetrated with lubricant...therefore reducing friction.

@c3h4organic97 3 ай бұрын

Pure gold! Thank you.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

No worries

@achalasamarasekara650 3 ай бұрын

Finally KZbin channel that isn't full of garbage and is straight to the point. This is how you win business and viewers.

@shocktreatment5495 2 ай бұрын

Thanks

@gizzmo89 3 ай бұрын

Great video as always 👍🏼 Whats your opinion on compression on the forks for transportation? My van is a bit low so I need to compress the forks by a ratchetstrap and sometimes leave it in the van over night before a race. Is the springs or forks gonna suffer for this? Or is it a non issue really? Ive heard alot of rumours about this over the years that the springs will get softer etc..

@krisdieber9459 3 ай бұрын

So, would fork gaiters be a good or bad thing?

@loopeyshooter503 3 ай бұрын

Bad. As Terry pointed out in the video you do no want dirt and grit being dragged up and down your forks as your suspension works! Same thing as putting sand paper under your windshield wiper and turning them on.

@kingkire1556 3 ай бұрын

Those rubber gaiters used on conventional fork are great, manufacturers have used them for years. The neoprene ones they sell for upside down forks are what Terry doesn't like. I have a close friend that has used the neoprene type on his 2013 YZF250 from new and he never had any issues till today. I personal don't use them.

@Adzy222 3 ай бұрын

Wd40 being petrolium based doesn't affact the rubber seals?, I would assume maybe little bit of fork oil would be better. But I guess for jo blow buying container of fork oil just to soak foam is bit overkill.

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

The base oil that creates fork oil is petroleum based and most hydraulic seals are designed to resist hydraulic fluids.....there really is no problem with WD40

@zxcvbnmnz 3 ай бұрын

I've been polishing my fork for years, so much less stiction and seals last 150-200 hrs/ few oil changes. I use more coarse than 400 on mine.

@bbmoti 3 ай бұрын

Is 400 grit not to much?

@andrewberg2361 3 ай бұрын

I would say not if Terry is using it .

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

We usually use 400 followed by 800. If the tube is really bad we may even start with 240 and move through the grit range.

@colfergusson4242 3 ай бұрын

Great info, tbh I've never thought about cross hatching on the stanchions before, if I've had any nicks or high spots I've always used some wet n dry 1200 very lightly rubbing but I would have been doing it it a cylinder type motion possibly creating the cross hatch effect albeit a very light one with the grade off paper I was using, never had any issues this is on road bikes.

@0cernnunos0 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Really informative.

@assaftennenbaum6751 3 ай бұрын

Well made as always, thank you! Can you please make a short video on how you buff the tubes?

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

That will be done today and hopefully up tonight

@ode4492 3 ай бұрын

any thoughts on the green SKF seals? I've switched to using those on WP forks because I feel they hold up a little better in our wet muddy conditions. Placebo effect?

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

I find the SKFs a little better for friction and reasonable for seal life. NOK seals (KYB Showa) are a little better for durability but not quite as slippery....really, there's not much in it.

@greatsouthernsky 3 ай бұрын

Informative vid🙏. (Btw Terry, keen to hear your initial thoughts on the new betas employing the zf single spring forks)

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

They can be made to work really well. I am not disturbed about single spring forks. They have been around for many years now and not proven to be detrimental

@greatsouthernsky 3 ай бұрын

@@shocktreatment5495 Good to hear! Cheers Terry

@frankweaver4892 3 ай бұрын

95% of us would be better served with conventional forks. Better seal life, better compliance. But they don't look cool like a male slider.

@justadam1917 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great advice again Terry . For me this was very timely as I developed the leak on the weekend and was going to take the easy option to attempt cleaning the seal . I guess I will reassess that plan and replace the seal

@justadam1917 3 ай бұрын

Best wishes to you and all you care for

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

@@justadam1917 Thanks Adam....I hope you are keeping well

@adamhend3211 3 ай бұрын

Great video Terry, very well done.

@shocktreatment5495 3 ай бұрын

Cheers...Thanks Adam

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