The ending of this video gave me chills. I am a believer and while you were reading the comment I started laughing, then it occurred to me what the video was about and the smile froze. I had never realized how much it hurts to feel that my deepest beliefs would make me a laughing stock for others, so much as to drive me to laugh along with them. Your point is very strong, this insincerity is so spread out as to flood what is meant to be most sincere, spirituality.
@Victoria-6233 сағат бұрын
Um hello, where is Forest Gump and the green mile and American beauty? You missed so many better movies too that should have been way before more than half the rubbish you put on here. Good will hunting, Fallen with Denzel Washington, sixth sense, seven, i could go on for ages but eyes wide shut is hardly number 1. Original Buffy, chocolate, cruel intentions. I'm sure i could neme way more too but yeah.
@Internatube4 сағат бұрын
Well said.
@jepulis66746 сағат бұрын
Grown ups taking Star Wars or other movies made for kids seriously is just sad. "The new star wars movies are bad because I am not 7 years old any more". No shit.
@mostly_obtuse10 сағат бұрын
1. Delightful essay. 2. Dune is trash, and I love Villeneuve's work.
@EE-iv5ej13 сағат бұрын
It's like nerds becoming like the 'stereotypical cool guys/jocks' that used to bully them, and now they're bullying themselves, the things they like, and in turn, it feels like they're bullying each other. It's like they're becoming the new 'cool guys' status quo that would point and laugh.
@jasonhunt684216 сағат бұрын
I think the reason why Syndrome's 'joke worked is because it works in-universe; as a world with supervillains, monologuing wouldn't be unheard of, and might have been a common thing.
@tuba300017 сағат бұрын
Using the owlbear scene from the DND movie as an example shows a lack of understanding as to what DND is...
@theownmagesКүн бұрын
I just watched Dune. It was sincere all the way through
@MorfalathКүн бұрын
why the hobbit trilogy failed
@muppet3901Күн бұрын
The cut to balrog falling with Gandalf into the underground lake was a cinema moment that will live with me until the day I pop off.
@pr0ph3t5Күн бұрын
I think comedy the whole genre died partially because of a lack of sincerity. Comedies used to have really serious moments to contrast the humour. Scrubs for example, super funny show but it's remembered more for the serious moments.
@TheBearOfSpades2 күн бұрын
I really didn't enjoy Thor Ragnarok. Maybe its dumb of me, but I couldnt get over Thor being tazed.
@adameichelberger6422 күн бұрын
Dune part 2 was not emotionally sincere, it was simply better about lying to you rather than using irony. It butchered the plot badly and just hoped you (the viewer) wouldn't notice.
@skullkid1122 күн бұрын
I actually thought that last jedi clip was from space balls. Thank God I've forgotten most of that trash.
@comradeerik2 күн бұрын
ill be honest i really love the prequels and they are by far my favourite star wars movies. yes some stuff is a bit goofy (as if the original trilogy wasnt) but the worldbuilding and storytelling in my opnion is great. i do not agree that they are "objectively" bad films. like you'll really be showing some of the best figth scenes from that series while saying how much they failed
@KRobinson-ko1ne2 күн бұрын
Either way the lore and the way the y expand on the universe in terms of world building and what have you: it’s not nothing and it’s not something to simply discard like the sequels attempted to do
@tristampratorius47092 күн бұрын
How is the insincere or ‘wink-wink’ behavior of current movies post-modern? Post-modernism was at its peak in popular culture when the Lord of the Rings movies were released. Their serious tone (and pre-modern setting) reflected the influence of post-modern thinking. Modernism has made a comeback precisely as movies have become more whimsical.
@tristampratorius47092 күн бұрын
Crazy how this video essay raises the specter of post-modern cinema (especially Marvel) and then shortly thereafter praises Tarantino-actual post-modernism.
@steveouk901263 күн бұрын
Immersion is important to legitimate storytelling. 7:45 - Actually that's an oblique reference to _Hardware Wars,_ a low-budget fan film from the late seventies which garnered a passionate following over the decades. The Millennium Falcon in HW was an iron, flying thru space. It was one of the many stupid decisions Rian Johnson made that destroyed the credibility of the film.
@walterlippmann62923 күн бұрын
Cleverness is overrated
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
The Last Jedi is hands down the worst one I don’t even feel right calling it a Star Wars movie. All three sequels don’t deserve the right to become called Star Wars movies anyway: George not only had nothing to do with them but they are a product of his own draft being discarded I know the prequels are flawed and I understand they’re not for everyone but the backlash they got was unwarranted. People descended on George even spreading some BS narrative of how allegedly the editing staff just some how made A New Hope for him and attempting to diminish any credit on his part for the OT. The characters the world building the lore and all that the prequels offered was certainly nothing to throw away: even people who didn’t like the movies still say the Clone Wars Series was mostly solid, essentially using George’s material with a different format and an audience surrogate in Asohka Tano. Nevertheless Disney tried by making TFA a remake of A New Hope attempting to cut itself off from anything remotely prequel related and flaunting its lives in sets. It’s a terrible movie and when it premiered it was clear as day that JJ Abrams did NOT think as to how it would effect the entirety of the saga and its characters. Of course that wasn’t HIS problem: his aim was to make the soft reboot he wanted to make and then leave the actual story of the saga to the following filmmakers while keeping a low profile. This way if the trilogy was a success he was to thank and if not then it was the other guys fault As for the Last Jedi it’s just empire with some inversions. They don’t really change the outcome that much when compared to the original trilogy: we have a young budding Jedi meeting a Jedi master on an uncharted planet only for said master to be a useless asshole who doesn’t train her. Nevertheless she trains herself and reaches the height of her maturity all the same. Of course there’s the slow chase and the Cantobite bit, ultimately being pointless because our heroes shit the bed. It’s true Luke’s inexperience and learning from failure are overencompassing themes in ESB and while Dak being killed as a result may render it difficult to grasp for the most part it works. The appeal of Luke was always that he represents the audience, as in if we were in Star Wars we’d be Luke as his background is most similar to the average viewer. He’s a simple teen with little to no formal military training and he clearly has his limitations. Because of these limitations, of course, his accomplishments become ours in the process Here however the failures are brought on by cartoonishly bad decisions, embarrassingly obvious ones: parking your ship on a beach and getting in trouble with the authorities despite the time sensitive matter, disguising your droid with a waste basket which gets them caught and don’t get me started on Rose ramming Finn: if those two didn’t magically teleport back to the base that was miles away they’d both be dead. Not to mention Poe whom we are to believe is to learn to use his head rather than simpleton approaches like “getting into an xwing and blowing something up” only for his plan to be revealed to be NOTHING but a nuisance thereby rendering finn and roses pursuit that as well Basically our characters don’t grow at all and they even get the majority of their comrades killed according to the movie itself. And don’t get me started on Jake Skywalker: this portrayal IS a misrepresentation of Luke at best
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
I’m gonna have to say “no” to execution being everything You need a good story, you need strong world building, you need an answer as to “how” and “why” and “what motivates the character” and you need a consistent code of logic even if it’s not exactly fitting to our own reality The prequels delivered on that which is obviously nothing the sequel trilogy even attempted When you don’t think about the aforementioned you get movies like the Force awakens or Hell, just the sequel trilogy in general. The Force awakens makes an okay remake of A New Hope but it’s supposed to be a sequel. A good execution of a bad concept I suppose The Last Jedi is filler partially disguised as an insufferable and misguided deconstruction that ultimately doesn’t EVEN offer an alternative angle Rise of Skywalker is (to parallel the words of Nerdnonymous) when JJ Abrams and a bunch of Disney marketing specialists suddenly remembered that Star Wars is meant to be ONE story and it’s set to conclude in THIS film. So the movie tries to pass everything off as if it was intentional. People were actually mad at this film because it attempted to “walk back” on all the undermining they did of the original story As for the execution of the prequels, dare I say, it’s not THAT bad: TPM is a bit silly and there were some odd choices like having Natalie Portman pick up that weird monotone at the end(it worked for Keira knightly with all that makeup but it sounded out of place when Padme started talking like so). Nevertheless it was a nice look at how the galaxy functioned before the shit hit the fan AOTC was indeed the most flawed squeezing a glut of lore material into one movie, the awkward time jump and some scenes looking like cutscenes in a video game. I still enjoy watching it; I never thought it was horrible or worthy of the backlash it got ie the whole “George Lucas Raped Our childhood” movement I love ROTS, it’s great. That’s it
@lundojelding97273 күн бұрын
The star wars iron "spaceship" joke was hilarious to me when I first saw it. I think it must've been my first proper exposure to ironic storytelling, so I guess it had the same effect for me as the one you described so many people getting from Hulk beating up Loki. I never watched the Avengers (actually still haven't, somehow) so yeah, I was a bit late to the party, lol. I guess it just goes to show how samey all these jokes truly are and how any one of them would be great on its own, but crumbles when it's surrounded by so many copies. Great video!
@nowifi80633 күн бұрын
Literally Thor ragnarok
@amrabilalovic96513 күн бұрын
Coppola is an egomaniac. I am personally offended that this person threw over 100 milion dollars out the window during one of the biggest inflation of our time to satisfy his own WHIM. He IS completely disconected from reality. An yeah, the fact that he is sleeping Really well is actually the problem.
@gram_gaming4 күн бұрын
THAT ENDING DAMN
@frantictoast37414 күн бұрын
*Disney not making anything* Fans: 😡😡😡 *Disney makes movies and shows and tries new things* Fans: 😡😡😡
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
Disney makes movies and shows with little to no story and/or undermine the original characters and their story arcs Fans:😡😡😡
@frantictoast37413 күн бұрын
@KRobinson-ko1ne what movie and show was made with little to no story? Lol
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
Seriously?! First you have the whole sequel trilogy: TFA is a New Hope beat for beat, while TLJ is basically ESB in that it has the basics and the same outcome really just with little superficial differences: the Jedi master is a useless bum so the young budding Jedi trains herself and is triumphant. The hot shot pilot doesn’t woo the attractive commanding officer (either of them) but they get away from the imperial fleet(until the empire catch up again). The main character isn’t related to an established character which changes nothing about the franchise: force abilities were never hereditary and in fact Vader being Luke’s father actually confirms the same theme as Rey’s abandonment and coming to terms with it. Ultimately the two of them are not defined by the wrongdoing of their family; it’s even the same meaning behind making Rey a Palpatine Of course ROS is just filler and an attempt to bullshit the audience that this was all planned The Kenobi Show does nothing with George’s world building and just fills out a bingo card of elements that rendered a Star Wars project profitable: Obiwan Kenobi has to rescue Princess Leia and they have some what of a bond. Meanwhile Kenobi has to recruit a thief with a heart of gold and a space freighter (cough* Han Solo). Oh and we need one or two scene of Hayden and Ewan exchanging small talk because audiences like that shit and also fan service. The Mandalorian season 1 would be okay if condensed to a short film but really it’s just boba Fett from ESB and a baby yoda doing bounty hunter jobs and it really had no long term storyline Certainly not one to fill three and a half seasons Season 2 is just teases for other projects and member berry moments for people who delved into the EU. Again there’s no real ongoing narrative they just threw in cloning and dark troopers because people who read the novels and played dark forces would THINK this would lead to something epic or at the very least get to see the dark troopers in live action form. Of course season 3 just exposes everything if Book of Boba Fett didn’t do so already: dinn has to deliver this youngling to a Jedi but then the Jedi gives him back because let’s be real Luke is tainted if he’s destined to grow up to be Jake. Furthermore Grogu surviving another order 66 would be redundant regardless and dinn and Grogu together got ratings then so why stop now? Of course Disney now has no idea what to do with these characters which is why we get lame filler episodes like the one where dinn and his kin have to rescue a child from a dinosaur Oh and the episode with Christopher Lloyd physically hurts: it attempts at an abridged version of count dookus pursuits and half hopes it can bridge the gap between the mandoverse and the sequel era without offending sequel haters. But the truth is all that’s gonna do is reinforce the fact that the rebellion in the galactic civil war era was for nothing Basically Disney announced projects and kicked them off without a complete direction and itinerary prior to shooting. I don’t think it can be denied at this point I left out Acolyte because that doesnt have a problem with having no plan: it’s just that the plan is awful
@frantictoast37413 күн бұрын
@KRobinson-ko1ne lol that's crazy, all that sounds like a story though, bad ones. Yes true but a story nonetheless lol I never once claimed any of them were good. You said they didn't have story but they do, they're just bad.
@guywholikesanimations10184 күн бұрын
Look while I agree with most of what ya said I think making the sequel trilogy not canon anymore would just be a big “fuck you” to the people who who worked hard on theses movies and also the fans who like the sequel trilogy too And I think it would honestly just make things worse And slot of more recent shows have been basically kinda been trying to explain the sequel trilogy so it would make it a even big waste of time and money to just make it all not canon It’s better to live with your mistakes than running away and pretend it never happened Am saying this as someone who thinks the sequel trilogy is alright go t
@thecozykinoshow4 күн бұрын
I do get what you mean tbf. Maybe just an alternate timeline? Where the writing is good?
@guywholikesanimations10184 күн бұрын
@ i think the better solution would just Be Jump ahead millions of years into the future, It would be a fully clean slate with all the other stuff left far behind And also because introducing alternative timelines would just lead into a rabbit hole and then before you know it’s there’s a Star Wars multiverse which only opens up for nostalgia cameos fest And even if they do make the sequels not canon anymore and replace it with something new There is no way of telling if the writing will be better or worse for all we know it could end up worse than the sequels
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but the sequels do way too much damage to the franchise: decanonizing them is the only solution There are ways of assuring that the cast and crew involved are ultimately respected but again preserving them in the canon breaks the foundation The original saga is the foundational source so having a third installment to said saga in which the empire is proven to be alive and well along with it’s original emperor all before killing off the original characters in humiliating ways is a detriment. Keep in mind it makes it impossible to create spinoff projects set in the galactic civil war era: the aesthetic of the sequel era is already basically the same, with the same ship designs, so toy sales would be hindered arguably. But most importantly it’s impossible to get invested in any new characters when we know everything is just gonna go to shit and said character is more likely than not doing more harm than good or just wasting their time and making pointless sacrifices. Such is the case for Mon Mothma and Cassian Andor. Also keep in mind decanonizing doesn’t mean flat out erase: the sequels characters can exist…in an alternate universe Star Wars is a fantasy franchise with space wizards, sentient robots, light speed travel and even a so called world between worlds Honestly the only way the sequels would work is if they were part of an alternate universe in which Palpatine was never defeated and Anakin was never redeemed all because Luke killed him in anger on bespin George has confirmed the chosen one prophecy is a thing: you may not like the prequels but the majority of their plot points were already established in the OT and George is still the creator As for respect towards the creative minds of each project, it’s no debate that TFA was made as an attempt to cut the franchise off from a major part of it, a major part of the creators vision. You want to talk about disrespecting the people behind the project, the sequel trilogy openly disrespects the creator and anyone who worked on their prequels.
@treystephens61664 күн бұрын
I’ve moved on to GODZILLA 🇯🇵🇺🇸
@yggdrasil24 күн бұрын
What is the next big director ranking gonna be?
@MrSatampra4 күн бұрын
Why was The Empire Strikes Back so good while Return of the Jedi was so uneven? Answer: Leigh Brackett. There is no substitute for having a good writer. If she had still been there to work on Return, I think we would have had three truly great films.
@GermanAnimeStudioZZ4 күн бұрын
What is the name of actor at around 14:00(in the court room) I have been searching for ages?
@omeganeox5 күн бұрын
I really wish they manage to save starwars man
@TyphoonJig5 күн бұрын
You can make works that are both referencial and sincere, that's what pretty much every Terry Pratchett book is. I think the difference is in why the reference exist in the work and how it is treated. In discworld, the meta element are completely serious, they are a force of nature and don't exist only for the readers to laugh at but as forces the characters must solve. When myth are deconstructed not to get ridiculed but to show how important their elements are, they shine brighter. That's how a story about a santa ripoff and a tooth fairy can make a powerfull point about human nature. IMO the problem is less reference and more how they're used. Right now it is mostly to almost make an excuse for the existence of the work "don't criticize too much, we know it's not serious" kind of statement. Almost as if nobody wanted to tell that story but someone got paid a big ammount of money to make it regardless. But there's other ways to use them, even for sincere works.
@BewareTheCarpenter5 күн бұрын
So what about movies/ books that take absolutely ridiculous settings but then take themselves absolutely seriously. Only read a few chapters of it but Fallout Equestria comes to mind as a massively popular book of My Little Pony after a nuclear war.
@ScoopWellyWelly5 күн бұрын
Cap and the Captain America movies are probably the best/only examples of this in the Marvel Universe.
@theperfectbotsteve49165 күн бұрын
it was hilarious
@ejoshcoron5 күн бұрын
REALLY good critique
@ApocalypticRenegade5 күн бұрын
It's possible to create a story which is vaguely self aware and funny and still emotionally impactful. The problem is that hollywood and writers learned the wrong lesson from the Marvel success. They didn't learn that people want banter between characters they got to know and like with a mix of sincerity and irony, instead they saw the jokes and the irony and went full tilt in that direction. It's the opposite of when grimdark was the thing for a while, where instead of dark, complex and meaningful stories we just got more dark for the sake of dark bullshit.
@harryjoe4255 күн бұрын
I was absolutely subconsciously waiting for a joke at the end. Case and point made excellently. Good video!
@Lucasssanta5 күн бұрын
Great video
@xtrafunk5 күн бұрын
"we will always be able to go back and watch the original trilogy" - he says while playing ewok music that was removed from ROTJ releases almost 30 years ago
@thecozykinoshow5 күн бұрын
I watch despecialized
@xtrafunk6 күн бұрын
tarantino favoring scenes over movies perfectly describes inglorious. from my POV it's his most overrated movie despite featuring tons of individually cool moments (the introduction, the bar scene, etc). on some level it's just a fundamental mismatch between what i personally enjoy in fiction and what this movie is, because ultimately I just don't find absurdist plots very easy to care about or become invested in
@JebediahFeed6 күн бұрын
You said that “they found the perfect guy to direct the films” and that wasn’t the case. It was Peter Jackson who had the idea of making these films and he was the one who contacted studios with this idea. And I think that’s another thing that we ignore. This is pure conjecture on my part - but I imagine that most of the blockbuster movies are born not from those who are passionate, but from a bunch of guys in business suit sitting in an office meeting. These are the same guys who thought that we needed to have three more Star Wars films, and a million spinoffs. What were they about? Who cares. They’ll still make them as long as they still made money. They didn’t spend millions on Star Wars copyright to just elet the franchise sit there
@TheaterPup6 күн бұрын
There have only ever been three Star Wars movies. Period. :)
@bazhamelcreates95136 күн бұрын
I never thought I'd see Star Wars reduced to this
@RTJ816 күн бұрын
I think people overblow the prequels issues. George Lucas Star Wars story is wonderfully told in 6 movies.
@KRobinson-ko1ne3 күн бұрын
Despite its flaws, yes: he gave us the entirety of the story as best as he could Yes he didn’t anticipate the first movie being a trilogy and thus a successful franchise. With that said, of course he has no choice but to retroactively fit everything and that’s going to be rocky inevitably I enjoy watching them but they ar Rod course indeed flawed and while it’s popular for people to say George had too much unquestioned control I’d argue it was because he was overtaxed He had to produce, direct and head write: his intent of course was to cowrite the script with Carrie fisher and/or Lawrence Kasdan while directorial duties were to go to Stephen Spielberg, Francis Ford Coppola and others
@KRobinson-ko1ne6 күн бұрын
31:33 Thank you! I had people tell me that if the Nazis took over Europe again that it would NOT undermine the efforts of the Allies in WW2 I felt weird arguing with this because it concerns real events as opposed to Star Wars and it’s fantasy ones. Furthermore the sad truth is that the allies themselves top priority wasn’t necessarily (or else not primarily) to oppose Hitlers regime and liberate his target demographics. This in mind made the debate even more problematic, of course. With that said and done(or “not said and done” more specifically) I was essentially “burned” according to those Disney fans. Nevertheless it really is ridiculous to have a fantasy franchise with two generational wars repeating themselves not only in terms of status quo but to have a specific series of events within said wars repeat themselves beat for beat. Furthermore it TOTALLY undermines Luke’s story: basically the trilogy just has everything Luke, his friends and family fought and sacrificed for ultimately rendered obsolete and it’s dominantly due to Luke throwing everything away for reasons he should arguably be above
@NickBR576 күн бұрын
Thing is, with LotR, if you stay as true as possible to the lore, commercial success will follow. It should be a no-brainer of course. Amazon has shown us that current filmmakers don't even have no brain, they must have negative brain.
@SirThinkALot426 күн бұрын
I think that the reason Deadpool is a bit of an exception in the need for sincerity and the use of forth wall breaks and meta jokes is twofold: 1. You know what you are getting with Deadpool when you go into the movie. A smart-ass who breaks the forth wall is what people go to Deadpool for. 2. Its(mostly) not mean spirited. Even when Deadpool mocks super hero tropes its more in a fun 'isnt this silly' kind of way, rather than a 'this is stupid and sucks' kinda way. Its hard to describe the difference specifically. But you can tell the difference when you see it. That said, I did feel that the last Deadpool movie went a bit overboard relying on cameos and callbacks. While the first film's plot could have been told in a more sincere film, and the jokes and forth wall breaks are just a unique way of telling that story, cutting that stuff out of D&W would have left you with nothing.
@stephenaddison47276 күн бұрын
What’s crazy is that one of the guiltiest directors to doing this is Taika Waititi and with JoJo Rabbit he perfectly executed the back and forth of irony and seriousness and he couldn’t in his marvel movies. In legit a movie from the perspective of a child he was more serious than a marvel movie. That’s wild to me.