I'm always lagging behind the nach so this seems perfect for me! -Slack
@SamT-rf1dx13 күн бұрын
i'd rather die than looking like that; why u guys pushing your butts out like that?
@MartinFabian13 күн бұрын
Unlike you, we want to die, duh
@alexandermartzok_vikingcombat18 күн бұрын
I miss your voice :(
@babypotitos341419 күн бұрын
Mi amigo Petro quiere retaros
@th_blck_knght25 күн бұрын
would love to see you go over other basic guards in similar manner!
@letsgo52925 күн бұрын
nice
@syys5640Ай бұрын
The bindwork is exquisite!
@m3lonm4nАй бұрын
SO good ! I'm looking forward to more saber vids!
@poja82Ай бұрын
Awesome video, that Clements book took me back.
@1guitarloverАй бұрын
Ropa is the general term clothing. Therefore the Espada Ropera (from ropa) is the Spanish sword in conjunction with the cape.
@johnclark1925Ай бұрын
Many thanks for these videos. ❤
@robertoprestigiacomo253Ай бұрын
I understand that for the sake of showing the technique the intensity is limited but I think that most of those attempts will result in the opponent thrusting before you even attempt to make contact. So it would've been nice to see how to counter that reaction. At least in my experience, when people use Ochs, it's like they are in "spring" mode waiting for you to approach them and will trigger either with a thrust or a cut even as you take a single step closer to them, often disregarding the fact that they will be hit too, especially in tournaments. Most people will immediately thrust the moment you even slightly touch their blade. As mentioned at 1:34, My approach is usually waiting or threatening somewhere far from their blade but without committing to let them spend their attack. I'd like to learn other offensive ways to break Ochs but I wouldn't feel safe doing any of these actions with the only exception of the Schielhau. The first and second ones will most likely end in a double or afterblow. For the third one (the Talhoffer's oberhau), I personally don't know anybody who will let me do that. As sneaky as it is, it's too wide of a movement which cannot be faster than the opponent's thrust. The Kurtzhau looks cool but unless the opponent is very inexperienced or very slow, I think it's too risky and would result in me being stabbed in the face.
@MartinFabianАй бұрын
Risk is attached to any technique, even a simple thrust. You can apply a similar logic to any action; any action of yours can trigger a counteraction. Any movement in measure carries risk we will be counter attacked. If these techniques are done in correct distance and correct time, they will do their job. If some people tend to ignore everything, I don't have a cure for that unfortunately, certainly not a technical one. A note regarding the schielhau - from all these techniques it's the most difficult and most risky one :)
@robertoprestigiacomo253Ай бұрын
@@MartinFabian I will try them in sparring, though it's not so common for peopl to use ochs in my club. Great series btw!
@user-ge2nk1gt2kАй бұрын
Thank you very much for the essay! In my humble opinion this looks a lot like a re-attack in next tempo. Which can lead to a lot of doubles or you will be punished by those who are very good/fast with parry-reposte. Proper reconnaissance and probing of the opponent must be done before, but as you said Martin, you need to know when to use it.
@CptEddyPrice2 ай бұрын
no music next time pls
@atkay46112 ай бұрын
2:01 There are sparks flying Amazing skills and a badass edit 😎
@cristianolima37122 ай бұрын
Excute me sir, but one of the aplications made me very confused! Using hand to parry a rapier attack looks senseless, since rapiers can also cut very well. Plus, doing that counts as a point to the opponent in a HEMA fight. In RL you could have your hand sliced. Btw, I see that you are from Slovakia. I visited your country November last year, it was the best I visited in European Union, people looks very hospitable.
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Almost every historical book on rapier teaches parries or redirections with using the off hand - for thrusts of course. It's not something I made up. Thanks and have a nice day
@hematicino2 ай бұрын
Great content, as always! Very clear and informative. In Dierk Hagedorn's transcription of the ''Peter von Danzig'', Abreissen is translated to modern german as Wegreissen ( to rip off, to tear away). Maybe this could help to understand why they choosed to name it this way...
@user-vy9dp3mx5e2 ай бұрын
Do you have the source for the background music? It sounds like E1M1
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
The Chase - Clinic (Alan Reeves, Phil Steele and Phillip Brigham)
@ericnesbitt17342 ай бұрын
Great video!
@EdouarddeLagasnerie2 ай бұрын
Top notch content as always, thanks a lot. Tiny question though, in the Vier Versetzen part of the Zettel, it says that after one has been displaced, one should "reiss ab haw schnell mit drate". Are you refering to this play in particular ?
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Yes indeed. See this article for more: buymeacoffee.com/martinfabian/companion-article-le4-the-forgotten-abreisen
@gulli722 ай бұрын
This old fencing vocabulary always cracks me up. In modern German, "abreisen" strictly belongs in a context of travel. It means, that you pack your bags, say goodby to the hotel staff and make your way to the airport, and it really doesn't mean a whole lot else. It would never even occur to a 21st century German to use "abreisen" as a slightly tongue-and-cheek name for the technique you're presenting; too quick, too effortless, the distance not great enough, the act not final enough, the comeback too early. But a few hundred years ago, that's how their minds associated things. Brilliant.
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
I mean most of the stuff must sound so funny to a native speaker... even a zornhau, ochs, whatever :) I'm happy fencing books weren't written in my native language (Slovak)
@BaltramWiesel2 ай бұрын
abreisen is in fact the start of a journey. But you can use it as in rip a piece of paper as well. Or an German example: Ein bisschen Klopapier abreißen. If you use the ß or double s it is even easier to see. And then the name makes absolutely sense if used as a fencing technik. Sorry for bad English. I am born with a German tongue. ;)
@matthewpham9525Ай бұрын
Trying to guesstimate definition changes to 500 year old terms is always fun
@jaydavvgАй бұрын
@@BaltramWiesel Abreissen and abreisen are two completely unrelated words. Using "abreisen" to describe ripping off a piece of paper would be wrong.
@Angelimir2 ай бұрын
Why do you keep hitting that poor guy on the head? He didn't do anything to you! 🥲
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
He's a member of the League of abused sword assistants, he's been bred for this purpose
@mariavfr57022 ай бұрын
@@MartinFabian 😆
@rtsgamer3752 ай бұрын
Plz make a video about countering zwerch copter
@erikfarkas78682 ай бұрын
Lay low to the ground and wait until it flies away.
@SRG4202 ай бұрын
just zwerch back lower
@AngelChernaevHistoricalFencing2 ай бұрын
Nice one. I perform it similarly quite a lot with Zwerch due to the usually closing distance
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Hey there friends! Happy to present another part from my series "Longsword Essays" about the 'Forgotten Abreisen', simple yet wonderful technique which breaks unbreakable parries :) I have recently launched a support page at www.buymeacoffee.com/martinfabian. If you like my videos, if you would like to see more of them or unlock exclusive content like articles, blogs, discuss fencing with me or even get online coaching from me, please check the perks for supporters and members. Members from Intermediate Supporters up have access to an accompanying blogpost to the "Forgotten Abreisen" video. Thanks a lot and hope you enjoy the video :) MF
@skeemens2 ай бұрын
Really cool video! Thanks. One point I have not made out - do you use the short edge to opposite the oberhaw (after attack) or the long one? Or the both depending of (which) situation
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Thanks! This really depends, I would say both but I'd say I use long edge the most since I'm trying to do the same for any thrust/cover like that
@jeffwhite71582 ай бұрын
You might be interested in this text from an old manual, circa 1600AD: "How to utilize the Ochs: If thou dost endeavor to partake transportation from a driving traveler as a passenger, thou may be resigned to the seats arranged in the rear of a moving vehicle. If such a time arises in which the forward-sitting persons in the vehicle are allowing a playlist to air which is not fire, it is appropriate at this time to state "Bro, pass me the Ochs" to which the forward sitting persons may be insulted or offended, as, asking for the Ochs is to insinuate that their music is not in good taste. If such protests arise, inform the driver that the musical emanations are the sound equivalent of the way Lady Godiva's saddle smells on a humid summer day, and remind them that whilst ensuring the rear passenger compartment cramped quarters, you requested a snickers bar but instead were presented with a Zagnut. You should, if the fellow travelers are of decent pedigree, be granted the Ochs to which you may now Grace the vehicles occupants with a truly fire playlist."
@adamlooping2 ай бұрын
Another gem. Thanks for this! 🙌
@EconaelGaming2 ай бұрын
Hello Sigi!
@incongruouscat46462 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to produce, Martin. I always learn so much from watching your videos 🙂
@leichtmeister2 ай бұрын
The one who fences short, that is in plownor ochs, will always be beaten. - Liechtenauer 🤷
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Lichtenauer also says never fence short or always strike at the opponent and proceeds to teach krumphau :) He also said his art is for those who can already fence and proceeds to teach footwork 101 He also said never strike the blade and proceeds to teach 50 techniques which strike the blade etc Funny man he was
@clopmeister16802 ай бұрын
Great to see the maestro back in action!
@alvaro_lareo2 ай бұрын
awesome as always :D
@luyang77812 ай бұрын
I always enjoyed your choice of background music...
@Druid_Ignacy2 ай бұрын
Cool video, thanks!
@saltyfruits39612 ай бұрын
Yessssssss!!! Thank uuuuu 🔥🔥🔥
@user-ge2nk1gt2k2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! But as a left handed fencer which almost always fights right handed fencers I should forget about ox😢
@Sinestrahema2 ай бұрын
I'm a lefty and i primarily fence from finestra (ochs) handedness only matters from the openings before you enter krieg/mezza spada/middle distance, and the openings you attack to after the crossings. Ochs takes the longest to get comfortable fencing out of but is very versatile, keep trying its totally worth it!
@SynysterVlad2 ай бұрын
Every guard is useful if you know its applications, yes you are leaving Ochs guard, but you are doing it intentionally generating an invitation and showing us variables to resolve the situation.
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
Most guards are totally not useful 🥲
@YannKastell2 ай бұрын
@@MartinFabian Which ones are you thinking about ? I'm curious to know ; I'd like to read your perspective on this. Why would they exist, are they only considered "useless" because of their limited application in tournament, .... ?
@MartinFabian2 ай бұрын
@@YannKastell I have a whole video dedicated to the topic in the Learn Longsword Series (pt2)
@YannKastell2 ай бұрын
@@MartinFabian I'll go see it, thanks !
@GreywolfConstruction2 ай бұрын
Your videos have allowed me to make it to finals in tourney with rapier. I will see how far I can go with long sword training.
@petritzky2 ай бұрын
"I would strongly advise against approaching in right Ochs." Simon Rieger, he pulls it off somehow. I don't wanna know the valley of tears he went through to make it there.
@Druid_Ignacy2 ай бұрын
I suppose that the key may be to hold the sword primarly with weak hand fingers - in gloves, if you hold crossed hands ochs mostly with dominant hand, weak arm tends to become very tasty target. But that's just an idea, am trying it now. In messer these problems are non existant, all hengen work well easyli.
@fernandomartins89482 ай бұрын
Excellent video, as usual!
@P_Berger21253 ай бұрын
Very cool! As an SCA rapier fencer, i hate to see the rapier bent like that though
@MartinFabian3 ай бұрын
Hey there friends! Happy to present another part from my series "Longsword Essays". I have recently launched a patronage page at www.buymeacoffee.com/martinfabian. If you like my videos, if you would like to see more of them or unlock exclusive content like articles, blogs, discuss fencing with me or even get online coaching from me, please check the perks for supporters and members. Members from Intermediate Supporters up have already access to an accompanying blogpost to the "Utilizing Ochs" video. Thanks a lot and hope you enjoy the video :) Happy Easter! MF
@Sorren-tb9fk3 ай бұрын
05:00 bro was like🤚😐
@siegebug3 ай бұрын
How do you wrap cape around your arm, is it grab it around the hanger loop then swing the arm counter clockwise? What kind of fabric is it made of?
@evergreen97523 ай бұрын
This is magnificent! I trained sport fensing with rapier when i was a kid, and that wasn't very pleasant experience,frankly. And now when i want to get into historical fencing, i thought about something eastern, like kilic or tulwar, since i am generally more interested in that culture, but your perfomance is simply so graceful that i think i changed my mind, and i will probably mainly focus on rapier when i get to it! Quick question about physical aspect: does historical rapier requires good agility and is,so to say,a finesse weapon? Just to clarify
@FiliiMartis3 ай бұрын
Not going to lie, seeing Martin train in a relatively confined space, going over and over the same strike, makes me start to see the benefit of a SIGI Light. 👍