Check the Carfax. If it had anything major repaired at the dealership it will show up. I know the Carfax alone would prevent anyone with half a brain from purchasing mine if i ever tried to sell. Get the extended warranty with it. Could just be someone just wanted something different. Test drive it, if you hear and odd noises or it feels off, express that to the salesman. For odd noises don't accept "thats normal"...because at only 18k miles it shouldn't make any odd noises.

Jeep has an App, Jeep Badge of Honor, that they have designated 60 trails around the country, and you can go to the trail and check in on the app and then request a badge to display your accomplishment. 100% free program. The KL currently has 22, and my 'new' WK2 has 16.

@@AWDfreak *was...🤦

The one tippy view from behind, yes, that was the bulldozed section.

@@kenryan3250 With my oversize tires i usually keep it in 2, prevents a little bit of the fender rub. Some people say its too stiff to be comfortable in 2 and prefer to keep it in 1 until they need the clearance. But i usually just set it up to 2 at the start of the trail and leave it alone all day. The WK2 is a much smoother ride than my stuff spring lifted KL.

@@FearlessTrailhawk yeah it is really stiff in 2 but when i air down to about 18psi that helps soften the ride

@@DrivenHard The WL? I've been out with a few 4xe that were still on the stock AT tires, so far not a fan, too heavy for those tires, and very jumpy throttle response.

@@rrb4kids1 its a great park! Don't be afraid to get out and walk some of the hills before committing!

@@Peter-xtremeThanks man! I am checking an option out next week, I'll try to remember to let ya know if it works out!

@@danielk9475 i am the poster child for not wheeling alone. I've only done it a couple times, but i'm always a little wary of it.

I would prefer to wheel with other jeeps but alot of the time I'm alone and causes. The southern pine Barrens of NJ have some very deep mud holes that look cool but are not .

@@patrickbailey962 Thank you good sir!

No. He has Falken Wildpeaks.

@@JohnRocker340 Definitely not, have had these Falken Wildpeak RTs for 35k miles.

@@schmobbytv2755 nothing in low range (isn't available, which is why i didn't cover it, as its not designed for offroad use in 4low) Now, on the street it makes the throttle response a bit peppier, holds gears a bit longer, and mostly disables traction aides.

@@Bobbyebadd Why would they care, they'll still get their money...

Spoken like a pavement princess

The pride people say this with, while tending to drive vehicles worth less than the down payment of the one they’re talking shit about, is crazy to me. This phrase means nothing, the bank doesn’t care if you blow the car up with C4 as long as you pay them. So condescending for no valid reason. Pack it up folks. Apparently if you have a car payment you’re not allowed to use the car.

That would be the case if my other wheels were slipping a lot trying to find traction again. But it held traction the whole climb, even after i let off to not slam the stock Highway tires into the rocks, but it climbed up just fine. Now, when some of the wheels are slipping, yes, steady throttle input is required for the traction control to figure out.

@@I_Santos_ Yes. One of my biggest complaints about these is i can't really play on the snow...😥😥😥. But it does handle snow like a boss!

Very yes.

@@FearlessTrailhawk hope to get out there someday.

@@jeepinbanditrider i'm about 50/50 on it being useful on the trail. Sometimes it works the best, other times its not. 🤷

@@JasonMorrison-fx9mn 🤯🤯 Nooooo, are you sure? I've never heard that before! Also, since you already know everything, i'm sure you already knew that it has a legitimate mechanical rear locker. I guess i forgot to add the /sarcasm text to the video...lol

@@patrickbailey962 There are aspects of each i like. But overall i do like the looks of the KL more.

@@JohnRocker340 I wish mine was that reliable...104k and has had 4 PTU failures. But i do a lot of offroading.

@@off-roadingexplained8417 As soon as i got off the blocks i had instant regret for not making the attempt in the KL...

@@coloradomallcrawlers Very yes!

@@motherof7bears579 water was a tad bit shallower the 2nd day, but the grand didn't come out of it with angry wet belts like the cherokee did!

3.6

@@Idahoshepherds83440 I've had 4 PTU's. One was a bad install, and one was a bad part/install (went out in 6 weeks). They either go bad or they don't, and you won't know until it does, or doesn't. Get a mopar extended warranty.

@@FearlessTrailhawk thanks for the input.

@@woody4u247 ...well it has a lift, same lift as mine (the white one)...far from bare bones 'street jeep'. I guess mine is also a bare bones street Jeep too eh? But yes, he is nee to wheeling, and had a little panic moment when i saw some jeeps behind him...i wasn't even clear infront of him yet, not sure where he was going to go anyways. I was going to start backing up that leg then get out and spot him (i had just said it on the radio like 10 seconds before the incident)

@@wesdorton4380 The hyperlapse smooths stuff out a lot. Its rated 2-9. This was the literal path outlined on the badge itself, but it technically is for the park as a whole, which is probably why the rating is so wide. Plus if this was wet it would be a much more technical ride.

@@DaddyBusAdventures yeah, we were trying to keep him slow when we could, but i guess the nee 4xe's are a lot twitchier because of the electric parts of the drivetrain.

@@FearlessTrailhawk Do you know if the 4xe Wrangler behaves the same. Buddy of mine just bought one , maybe need to warn him.

@@DaddyBusAdventures Unsure, but if it does, turning off the 'recapture' option helps. But each of the WL 4xe's i've wheeled with have expressed the same 'jumpiness".

@@FearlessTrailhawk Well, there's "jumpy" and then there's "driver", LoL. I'm sure he's a great guy, but there were too many times I cringed during this video from too much throttle. As you know, I've got a 4xe TH, but you've seen the jumpiness can be tamed a bit. A throttle-heavy driver just gotta learn on their own. 🙂

Because its National Park land no dogs are allowed, at least that's what it says on the sign. As for rangers letting you in with one, might just depend on the rangers, if they are at the entrance at the time, or if they even ask or notice the presence of the dog. My guess is due to the deep tinting on the windows, if the rangers were at the entrance, they couldn't see the dog and nobody said anything.

@@supacheef1 As a non dog owner i never really paid attention to that rule. But i understand the reason for it in some of these fragile biomes. But there wasn't any ranger gate keeping the trailhead for us, just at the main park entrance, and they never said anything to Jeff.

That's why I've always wondered why people go offroading with such a heavy object so high up, cause thats for sure how you increase your chances at rolling over.

And then because of that driver's inexperience, he gave a lot of other drivers a bad name when Rory just couldn't stop making fun of them for bringing their "not real Jeeps" where only "real Jeeps" should go. While also completely sidestepping the fact that Fearless made that trip down that trail 3 times during that whole situation with absolutely no issue, you know, because the new Grands have no business being out there and can't survive... except that it did.

@@vinceimp9581 He came back up again to complain about how he needed to get into town, but the camera was off. I was so close to telling him to stuff it and call for a recovery, but alas, I couldn't just leave him stranded.

@@home7371 Thanks mate! i do what i can.

@@coloradomallcrawlers Yeah, we all had a good laugh about that whole situation, once we were off the trail and had some rest.

@@off-roadingexplained8417 Well the grand hasn't left me stranded out of state yet...40k miles so far.

@@kevinmilewski9243 yeah, it was a case of him seeing someone behind him and panic throttling into a bad rock. Otherwise he'd been just fine if he'd waited for me to get clear and spot him.

@@motherof7bears579 🤣

@@MiddleOutdoorsman Thanks for watching! Yeah, my KL is still around, just pulling more light duty atm. Plus i now have almost a years worth of WK2 footage to edit while the KL was down. This particular video was filmed over a year ago (June 2023). And since i got the Grand in August 2023 i've been taking it out instead. (And have put 40k miles on it in 12 months) You are 100% correct on the lift amount, which is why i didn't want to go over 2.5", as i've been replacing atleast one CV every 1.5 years since the lift. (I hear them start clicking a lot, so i replace before they fail) I think the primary cause of this particular CV failure was while lifted at full droop the axle actually hits a subframe bracket and that caused it to bind up. (This only seems to be an issue with the gen2, I have now shaved that edge of the bracket back to not interfere) Yes, heavier tires put more strain on the system amd gears, but its hard to have a proper offroad tire that doesn't have that weight. Yeah there are a lot of hybrid tires that are 3 ply that say they are good for 'offroad', but I'd never trust those on a trail. I've seen the results of weak tires too many times to ever use anything less than 10 ply tires for offroad use. As to the diff. The standing theory is they were just made weak. Plenty of people have had them fail while still 100% stock and never been off pavement. There is a reason there was something like 1,000 unit national backorder last year. The lack of drain plug really sucks though, as I'd totally do a regular change if it didn't require trying to use a pump to suck the fluid out. As to this particular failure, i think it was either a bad part or install as something felt "off" from the moment i got it back. Something felt like it was binding up a little in the rear, but there was nothing they could do about it because it is a sealed unit. 6 weeks after install it failed. Yep, oil cooler is a well known issue, many are surprised there wasn't a recall or design change. The KL is still good at 100k, but my WK2 had it go out at 70k. There are some guys who take these things out on a regular basis with 2-2.5" lifts and have never had any issues. But yes, i do push mine further than most. I don't do anything that i think will break anything. I also don't know a single wrangler owner who offroads that doesn't also have parts breaking, only difference is wranglers are generally easier/cheaper to fix...lol

@@davidperlman5604 i use a set of deflators. I always air down to atleast 18 any time i'm offroad. Its easier on all the components...and your kidneys. (Both deflators and air pumps linked in description) Something like for years ago i made a video showing my airdown/up setup. (I'm at work atm and hard to go back and link that vid here) I wouldn't do most of the trails i do without rock sliders that stick out.

Thank you for your advice. I have air compressor and power inverter to hook up on battery for fast inflating tires when done with the certain trails.

@@bakers507 i clocked the motor up, and had to shave a little bit off the condenser corner, also had to use some spacer plates behind the whole bumper to keep the bumper bar from hitting the radiator. Frog Fabs QA seems a bit weak because i had a few fitment issues. But the winch is exactly the same as their 10k, but has different gearing inside.

@@GrandExploration Thanks, now i want to go back and do it better!

@@raymondrichard547 24 years of use and weather make huge difference! Its a fun trail for sure!

@@FearlessTrailhawk So true!! I live in central AZ and every time it rains more than a inch the trails get washed out some where.