Gorgon is great, I have thrown the mamba before and its more finicky for me I have to have the right Hyzer flip angle on it to keep it from rolling maybe its just the one I got. The gorgon is pretty effortless distance I dont have to crush it, I can send it with less power(still hyzer flipping it) and it goes farther than most 10 speeds with less effort.

I actually tried this out yesterday, before seeing this video. My arm speed isnt anything special, maybe in the average, a little above average. The gorgon landed around 350' to 400', but the mamba was close to 100' further. I actually have to be conservative with it, I can launch it well past the basket regularly, it's the only disc in my bag that I can do that with.

I like Mambas also, but I really enjoy throwing Infinite Discs Maya. I have never been accused of having a big arm, yet I can get the Maya to fly some 20' farther on a consistent basis. Almost all discs have an overstable flight when I throw them. The Maya is one of the few discs that I can actually throw on a hyzer flip and get it to pop up to level. At least sometimes anyway.

I throw a 147 mamba

Going to play round tomorrow and i gotta try that trebuchet idea. That could be good way to visualise the throw. Cheers from Finland :)

Nick, you are awesome. 71 year old here -- been throwing a while but still consider myself a beginner. Enjoy your spirit, keep up the great work and I'm following your advice......I'm just having fun with it! I have a Mamba and I like it, but I'm partial to my Beast. Also like the Claymore and the Truth. At my level, the disc is never the problem - ha!

I wonder if that Gorgon gets better for you once it’s thrown another couple hundred times. That Mamba flies so nice tho how could you replace it! Lol

nobody has really mentioned this as far as I know but the Gorgon has a rounded rim like the IT. If you love the feel of the IT, then good for you but if not, you probably should avoid this disc and buy the trail. The gorgon is flippier than the IT weirdly enough. I say it has 2 to 4 turn and generally does not come back. For reference I typically through a couple degrees nose up and achieve about 260-280 drives on average

Man, I just got one of the most recent runs of Halo Star Mamba and it is not the Mamba I am accustomed to. It is overstable and there's no way for me to say a -5 turn is accurate. It's more like -1 1.5 (Yes I knew going in that halo star is usually more overstable) For context, I had a Gorgan and it was too flippy for me, so the point I'm trying to make here, is that Innova is not even trying to match their discs to their numbers. And what's so crazy about that is that they're the mutha truckers that invented the numbering system! Uh, hello?

My best throws so rewarding with the M A M B A.

Interesting, would be cool to try a Gorgon of the same weight as the Mamba. There's also the beat-in-edness factor. . . so maybe a bit hard to truly embrace the Scientific Method. :)

not quite a fair comparison. The Gorgon as the heavier disc needed more arm speed. Not sure that Innova has the Gorgan in 147g. So, yep you might need to stick to the Mamba. I also bag the Mamba over the Gorgon, as it is much more predictable.

"forgets name of disc he's reviewing" that made me laugh sooo much - I called my daughter by my dogs name today! #oldTwat :)

Thanks Nick. I also think Gorgon is a stupid name lol

For this old dude, right now the Mamba is in the #1 position and has been for some time. I keep trying to find something better and my search keeps coming up short. Thanks for the comparison Awesome Dude.

Mamba is 14 grams lighter. Could help with lower arm speed. Good video.

Try the Gorgon in Gstar plastic. the flight numbers for Gstar 10 6 -3 1 are different than Star plastic 10 6 -2 1. I am less than 6 months out from Shoulder replacement surgery and I carry 5 Mambas in my bag, all lightweight and most Gstar plastic. Thanks for the comparison.

Great video! I have some different Mambas and Gorgons in different plastics - GStar, Star, and Champion. I will do a comparison of those soon and of course mention that it was inspired by this video. 😁

While Mamba sounds like a fun name it’s actually named after the largest highly venomous snake native to Africa. I have a Gorgon and love it and I am also considering a Mamba for a different flight. Both are great discs.

Mamba is my favorite disc for distance and accuracy. The Diamond will out distance the Mamba every time but where it goes no one knows.

My best bud that got me into disc golf was throwing a Mamba last time we were out. We're both 50. He was cutting nice turnovers where it faded to the right, but he's mostly a forehand thrower and I can only throw backhand for now. I was still impressed and this vid just got me thinking I will pick one up eventually, likely when I can get spin and flick mastered. I'm new to the sport, having played for about 4 months.

Maybe Gorgon for head wind.

Thanks for doing these videos and this comparison. It looks like you want to watch where you're throwing the disk. I think if you allowed your head and shoulders to turn more on the reach back, you'd be able to increase the power on your throws. I'm an old guy too, and when i stopped trying to watch the disk and concentrated on teaching father back, my Mamba and Tern started getting more turn. That said, i switched over to a Westside Hatchet about a month ago with some notable results.

I throw a low-weight Wraith - I'll need to compare my low-weight Wraith to a Gorgon AND a Mamba!

Most of the baskets at my local course are at least 350 ft. So, driving at least 200 would be nice.

it's all about that snap

Hey Nick. Been playing about 4 months. I'm a beginner to old age as well as disc golf, turned 50 in August. Buddy of mine who got me into it is a few weeks younger than I. He got me a Big Z Buzzz as a birthday gift and I used that until I got Innova's starter set in premium plastic (clearance sale) and then a Westside Underworld and a DD Vandal. I seem to do well with discs that are speeds 4 to 7 for mids and drivers. Followed your advice and got an Innova starter set in the base plastic yesterday- I like the base Leopard over the premium Leopard3. A used Mako3 is arriving tomorrow along with some used Westside Discs-- a Warcraft and a Maiden-- pink, white, pink respectively. Light colored discs save a lot of headaches as most everything else blends in with the fall colors!

hello from New Zealand. Double shoulder rehabd physio said try disc golf... 2 years later totally hooked. biggest issue of course is distance but slowly getting to 250 ft with the help of a lightweight River which i'm loving. great channel

Great work Nick!! Super interview with a cool disc golfer!

Kalvin makes it look so effortless. I appreciated the trebuchet description as well as how to hold the disc to keep it flat. I'm looking forward to trying those next time I get out to play.

Im 69 been playing for about three years. My backhand is horrible. These tips Im gonna give a try. I throw sidearmed mostly n throw only 125 feet. 150 been my longest. Not gonna give up. Tips like these keep me going. Thanks.

Hey Nick, your channel was one of the first i saw when my son got me into the game last year. I'm a "young" old dude of 53. Not super athletic or coordinated, but became obsessed with the game and wanted to get better. When I first started, I really sucked at putting, so i put a basket in my back yard and practice often. That was one of my main keys to getting better scores. All strokes count the same, so get good at putting! I try to play every day after work (tough this time of year with short days) and have several of my coworkers playing now. If I don't have time to play, I head to the field to practice. I don't have a big arm and throw mostly forehand as it is more comfortable for me. It hurts my shoulder when I throw power backhands, so I don't do it. I always stretch out before throwing, which improves my early round throws and helps to prevent injuries. One thing that helps me is to visualize what I want my shot to do before I get on the pad. If you're just trying to throw it without any idea of what you want, I think your chances of success aren't as good. Thanks for making a channel for us old dudes Nick!

Thanks Nick I think this helps me out alot. I think my arm is all I use need to learn how to use my body when throwing. I am 67 and just been playing for a year. It's about timing and having proper mechanics. Thanks for doing these videos for us Old Dudes.

Such a cool dude. Thanks for introducing us to him. I need to keep thinking trebuchet...

It is also a plus to stretch out. Plus i do a work out from doctor Eric Goodman on you tube how to strengthen and stretch you hips out.

Hey Nick! I love what you're doing here, and would love to help you in your efforts to bring understanding and joy to the older disc golf community. I'd love a chance for an introductory conversation, when time allows. Thank you for all you do.

55, started in january. Throwing 350 and getting stronger and more accurate. I figure if i can mow lawns, rake leaves, haul buckets, move stuff, i can throw discs. I practice at least an hour every day. I have more in me too. More flexibility, more speed, more distance. It takes time and effort and im gettin it

Great video I liked hearing Calvin’s disc golf journey. The thing I’ve recently started learning is throwing with the nose down. I’ve certainly not perfected it yet but when I make a good snap and keep the nose down I’m getting another 50’ on my drives. I feel like this is going to take awhile to master but I can see it’ll be worth the effort.

Super strong disc golf youtuber? Could it be BlitzDG? Or possibly Nick Krush?

I'm a 50+ years old guy who's played for 2 years, and I look like I've been playing for MINUS seven months...

Awesome vid. Im fairly new to dg also, 10 months in, my body is letting me know I am getting old as I am going through a back muscle injury at the moment. It's so depressing not being able to go out and play but it has allowed me to work on my putting. I just hope I am able to throw like you guys when I get a little older, you guys still have such great mobility.

Love the beginning of this episode. Hey, let's play. That's the way it should be friends. The world would be in such a better place if that was much more the norm.

Thanks for the “old guy” stuff. I was at Eldorado yesterday with some fellow “old guys” and it was an excellent time indeed. We typically play together every Friday morning at Eldorado or Huntington Beach, so perhaps we’ll see you out there sometime soon!

Another awesome video Nick, nice to virtually meet your friend Doug. I like that your video talked about the weights of the discs, a lot of videos don't bother to mention that and it can make a substantial difference. I consider myself on the cusp of becoming a young old dude a disc golfer at 59 and a half. I can throw about 300 ft. Sometimes it seems like I can throw farther than that but when I go out to a local football field edge of end zone to edge of end zone is about my max. I probably throw this that are too fast and too heavy for my arm speed. I don't have much in the way of max weight disk but try to shoot for this that are in the mid-160s. I have a Daedalus in the star plastic that is probably my longest throwing disc but it's a little finicky. I have an MVP Wave in the fission plastic that seems to be easier to get up to speed and achieves similar distances were reliably. I bought it last May at the Portland open tournament to support the jomez fpo hot geese ladies after an old dude that I was spotting with let me throw his while we were waiting for the first ladies card to reach the hole that we were spotting on. If memory serves the whole is 320 ft and downhill. First throw of the wave parked it, love at first flight. Rarely throw a bad shot with it. Take care a stay awesome.

65 and also @7 months. I was introduced to the game by my grandson. Some of my accomplishments are an ace at 213 ft and second place in my second tournament. I love this game!

This is what it's all about!

Gotta love the opportunity to play a round with new friends you stumble across at the first tee or the parking lot as you grab your discs. So much fun to see how they play and learn some strategy to play a course. I noticed a few low hanging trees on those fairways and immediately thought...roller. Great shot to perfect. I always carry a flippy disc that can be used for a roller. That's my tip of the day.

I’m 67 and started playing during COVID lockdown, but I wasn’t getting any distance at all for a long time. I only played a handful of times until I got my friend Dan to go with me. That’s when I started wanting to throw farther. I watched some videos and realized I was throwing nose up and it was killing my distance and accuracy. After working on getting the nose down, which meant getting used to a new grip, I got more accurate and more distance. I have a bad back which keeps me from throwing very far still, but I really enjoy playing.

I just love how you never know who you going to meet out there . And when you do meet someone who loves the game as much as you do , it just clicks. One tip that has been helping me recently is in the “power grip”. Keep your thumb about 1.5” from the rim and push from the bottom with just your pointer finger mostly. It’s called front loaded grip. Helps a lot with the “Snap” you’re talking about . Your Awesome Too 👍

Field Work is critical for all of us old dudes. I live in Wisconsin and try to get an hour of practice time in about 3-5 days per week. The weekends I do about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of practice. Weekdays I try to practice an hour in the local park before I start my 2nd shift job. Some people kind of catch on quicker than others. Great interview. you should try measuring out your own course some time in a city park that does not have an existing course already, it's a lot of fun.