I wish I could! Maybe on Gunbroker or used somewhere. X-Products is in Washington state and a law for high capacity magazines got passed so they can’t produce them anymore. I was lucky to buy a couple before that. Good luck on your search and let me know if you find one because I want another as well.

You’re right, they’re barely supersonic out of this length of barrel. I only have about 15 rounds left, but should use my new chronograph with this and my 7.5” gun to make another video. I haven’t seen this ammo for years, but what else am I going to do with it lol Companies need to be more upfront on the conditions of their products for sure. I’m with you.

Slap it in my friend lol It’s a direct fit. All you do is adjust the front hight adjustment screw on the binary pack for proper fit. There’s pretty good instructions and an installation video here on KZbin. You’ll transfer the ejector lever, ejector lever axle and ejector lever spring from your existing trigger pack or you can purchase them separately so you keep yours complete. Let me know if you have any questions about the process. Have fun and be safe!

The AP5-P has the same lower/trigger housing as this AP5-M. I just get all my MKE lowers third position engraved to have an official looking spot for the binary function. I put 2 for the third position on one of my AP5-M AOWs and my AP5 sbr with Surefire light kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5TFh6aaeNakmrcsi=Rr7J1NHxGVLXGYJK

You’ve got an awesome 5.56 AK! Crazy how tight I got the Wolverine with the included wrenches. I thought I might be damaging the crown on the new barrel because the can is supposed to shoulder off of it. Dead Air was great to warranty it and I got my replacement in less than a week. I think I’ll wait to put it on until I get some sort of detent welded onto the gas block.

@@RangeToyz yea that's a good idea. Something else you could get the mount from jmac that makes it hub compatible and get one of their muzzle devices that are face mount so it tighten to the face of the barrel and I've had great luck with that

I think it depends on the ammo and how clean the powder burns. These subs looked like a bigger smoke cloud compared to the supers and the brass ejection direction was even mellower at about 4 o’clock vs 3 o’clock with the supers. Nothing bothering my eyes. I have a PSA Dissipator DI gun with a Rugged Micro 30 and have a video with it short and long, and with a 30 caliber or 5.56 endcap. You can see where the brass direction really changes on it and the receiver and magazine definitely get dirtier suppressed as well. I really prefer all of my Adams Arms P2 short stroke piston guns with 5 position adjustable gas blocks. Extra gas is vented at the gas block instead of coming through the PWS long stroke piston tube or a DI gas tube into the receiver. All of them get some gas coming back through the barrel because of negative pressure when cycling, especially when suppressed.

@@RangeToyz thank you. I am looking into the MK109 upper but I have heard of multiple issues with cycling subs when suppressed. It's a bit worrisome given the high price.

@@stinct1776 glad to help! I got this Pro model when it was exclusive through Brownell’s for 650, but haven’t seen it for years. The aluminum is softer, machining was less, but the barrel, piston and 3 position gas system was the same as the MOD series. I sold this one first less than I paid and have a MK109 MOD2-M now. I had to get a H3 buffer to cycle these subs without getting light strikes. I’ve got a binary trigger in it too now, and it works great. Subs cycle slower than supers is all. I really want an Adams Arms P2 8.5” 300 blackout upper to round out my collection, but it’s so close in length, it’s hard to justify spending for another complete build. Optics Planet has a 12% MEMDAY or 85 dollar MW85 off codes right now even. The price of the Adams Arms is significantly less than the PWS too. Use the link in my description if you’re interested, and I’ll make a small commission off it even.

@@RangeToyz thank you sir - I will take a chance on the PWS MK109 then. If I have any cycling issues I will check back in for further discussion

Yes indeed! At 1:13 22LR subsonics suppressed are equal to some airguns, maybe even quieter :)

@@RangeToyz cool :)

It’s seriously amazing how quiet CCI Quiet 710 feet per second ammo is out of a bolt action suppressed! The rounds won’t cycle a semi auto, and sound like a cap gun unsuppressed. They’re great for states that don’t allow suppressors or people that don’t have one. When suppressed, the firing pin is the loudest sound kzbin.infoVcE6oFE_1Wg?si=JhluMSXBiDC8F50Y

@@RangeToyz wow basically a dedly nerf

Now that I have a Tactacam, I need to get back to the 435 yard quarry I’ve been to before or even further to show the ACSS HUD reticle and it’s capabilities for sure! I want to bring this Cross 308 with the ACSS HUD DMR 3-18, Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16” 308 with 6-24 ACSS HUD DMR and my Adams Arms P2 308 with 6-24 ACSS HUD DMR

MP5Ks have that because the shorter receiver needs extra strength.

That does sound awesome!

The HK Parts and Shield mounts are both low profile, but the HK Parts is definitely easy to install yourself. I don’t know why HK and MKE include those gigantic optic mounts when you purchase the firearm. I guess it’s because they’re rugged, but you can’t cowitness with them. I say sell them separately so we can choose to buy them later, or not.

Really, rifle suppressors don’t need to be cleaned because the pressure of the rounds push out almost all of the carbon and fouling. A little bit of material in your suppressor will cause extra turbulence and actually make it quieter. If you notice with a scale that your suppressor is a few ounces heavier than when you got it, and that could be after thousands of rounds, there are some special solutions you can use. Breakthrough Clean Technology Suppressor Cleaner and HUXWRX Suppressor Sauce are two that I’ve heard of. They are both two-part solutions that you let your suppressor soak in. I wouldn’t use an ultrasonic cleaner, just these methods I spoke of because an ultrasonic cleaner will ruin the finish on the outside of your suppressor maybe not the first time, but definitely after two or three times.

I’ve never cleaned any of my rifle suppressors, but I did clean my Octane 9 suppressor because I ran a bunch of 22LR through it. I also have to clean my MP5SD suppressor with it’s aluminum K baffles so the don’t get stuck in the tube and the suppressor doesn’t get stuck on the gun. I use welding anti spatter spray for it and try to do it every 300-500 rounds. 22 suppressors are the filthiest with its leaded ammo that’s sometimes waxed plus the carbon deposits.

Thanks! This Omega MP5 actually came with a V notch and all the different sight pictures are calibrated for 9mm. I replaced the drum sights that came with my GSG 5P and 522PK 22LR MP5s with the HK 7.62x51 versions that also have a V notch and only use it for them. They’re pretty cheap. I think it would be very difficult to try to cut and file a V notch yourself. A little one way or another and that’s where your bullet would go. Can’t put material back either. Even a machine shop probably wouldn’t know how deep to cut without a diagram and measurements. I’ve looked for 9mm ones that are for sale, but haven’t found any. Someone should start making them with the MP5 boom that’s happening right now.

Thank you! Ammo isn’t cheap, but it’s fun to make these educational videos and I’m glad you liked it :)

It is the AK-C1, but I have a different trunnion with this stock so the trigger pack sits flat. I think you can use it in a stock Micro Draco, but you have to carefully file/grind remove a cross bar at the bottom of the trunnion so the pack would sit flat in there too.

@@RangeToyz ima just have a shop do it I don’t trust myself

@@Galaxys_Garage good plan :)

I wish they were making both of them right now. I’d buy both in time.

Dead Air is awesome! They just emailed me back and are going to warranty it :)

@@RangeToyz yeah their CS has taken a hit over the last 2 years.

@@OsamaBinSmokinTV I just got that flash hider endcap warranty in my hands today!

I’m not sure lol I did have a few hiccups, but no light strikes. I’m not sure if they were possibly from not pulling or letting go of the trigger all the way, but were probably from outrunning it. I definitely try to pace my trigger pull and slow down if I get a hiccup. Gas adjustment is key and back pressure from the suppressor is factored into it. Glad I have this documented so I can look back at my settings later for reference and fine tuning of the gas setting.

That’s correct, I’m using a 55 degree locking piece. I was using a 45 degree lp long ago when I was trying to get my Chimera and Specwar 7.62 to run on this and did notice some roller marks. I have a note that says to try a 50 degree lp if it needs it. Really, the best combination is the stock #7 55 degree lp and an OSS/HUXWRX or SilencerCo Velos LBP type suppressor, not a traditional baffle can even if it’s short because of back pressure.

On the NFA paperwork, I’ve got it measured at 28.5”. Why would you want it longer?

​@@RangeToyz I really appreciate the reply. My state won't allow SBRs under 29" OAL.

@@PubliusRutiliusLupus I measured mine from the tip of the barrel to the end of my stock fully extended. if you pinned and welded your muzzle device to your barrel with my same stock, you would be 29“ or over. I say go for it!

I’ve got a great girlfriend :) I didn’t know it even existed

I’ve got a KNS piston in my 16” underfolder and PAP M92 sbr. It lets gas pass through and gets the gas tube and receiver dirty. The adjustable gas block stops unnecessary gas from entering the gas tube. I wanted the best for this build. I should do a side by side video someday showing the difference. KNS pistons are easy to install yourself, where adjustable gas blocks are pressed on and off, requiring equipment I don’t have and really a qualified gunsmith.

@@RangeToyz That actually makes perfect sense when I suppress my RPK I'm gonna put a adjustable piston in it just so I can find tune it.

Indeed! Did the rest of the video with 5 up to try that speed more, but I’m going back down.

Thanks! What brand/manufacture did you have? My 16” is a Polish kit on a Nodak Spud receiver. It came with three mags and a pouch. Some said I over paid at 600 about 25 years ago. Some underfolders now are within about a hundred of that.

@@RangeToyz I had the Hungarian model, I think it was $800 about 6 years ago

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Thanks! I’ve seen those Putnik cans and they look cool. I do prefer the classic look of the PBS-1. Maybe lower back pressure and the vents on the end should reduce muzzle rise. Curious with the sound difference might be as well.

Thanks! I’m checking in with Dead Air about a warranty. I know it’s on me, but maybe it’ll happen 🦾

Dead Air is awesome! They just emailed me back and are going to warranty it :)

I just got that flash hider endcap warranty in my hands today!

I do own two Nomad Ls and one Hyperion…

Glad to help and I appreciate your comment! it was my first over and under and I got a good deal on it at Big 5 Sporting Goods locally. Can’t say that it doesn’t shoot as well as a more expensive shotgun, it’s all in the barrel length and the chokes.

I cost me a lot after getting the receiver repaired and the new stock installed, but getting the railed gas block and binary trigger made it 🔥

Dude dead on I’ve never been a fan of them until I saw this

@@Dabbsmoke_ I love Dead Air! Bought three Wolverines when they first came out for my AKs. Two Nomad 300s for 300 blackout; Rattler and Adams Arms P2 16” upper. Two Nomad Ls, one on my Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16” 308 and a spare for a future gun. So quiet and a much better price than my Hyperion. A Wolfman on a MP5. Heavy and overbuilt for 9mm, but duty enough for 5.56 and more. (I don’t do modular or the wipe.) Just got a Mask for my Ruger SSH. They have a private Facebook group called the Asylum and there’s tons of sharing and help from others. Awesome swag for 2+,3+ and 5+ suppressors. Huge pile for 5+!

@@RangeToyz You have skillz...

I just looked and it’s got lots of clearance, probably a few millimeters. Those faint blemishes are probably from my guns rubbing against each other in the safe unfortunately lol You’ve got a good eye!

@@RangeToyz Ah! Good to hear! Thank you for answering Do you clear those anti-rotational pins easily, or does it end up touching them? I've read some incompatibilities with some anti-rotation pins, I run drop in triggers. Your handguard is the cat's meow along with the rest of the rifle. PWS really makes some cool looking handguards, but perpetually out of stock, I called them today and they said probably another 2 months before they come back in stock. I am really interested in this lower, I have been going back and forth between this, Griffin Armament MK2, Radian ADAC, ADM and LMT Mars L, and of course Geissele Ambi lower (but that one is even more expensive than Radian, can be as much as 800 bucks for just the lower and a stock). PWS Mod 2 is also ambi, but that paddle is a bit too firm for my taste. Geissele is the easiest to drop, LMT is also pretty easy, but it does touch the upper receiver in some cases, and can create an indent mark.

@@righteousone8454 those were CMC anti walk pins and the full range of the ambi bolt catch stops before coming in contact with them. I’ve made a few changes since this video. I sold this Pro upper and got a MOD2-M. I really like its style and weight difference. I got it from Optics Planet and they even have a 12% off code MAYDEAL ending today on uppers! I’d backorder it with that price. You won’t get charged until it ships. I had to backorder mine when I did. You could really help me out and use the Optics Planet affiliate link in my description so I could get a small bonus too :) I also put a Franklin Armory AR-C1 binary trigger in it with their trigger pins. One of my friends got a PWS lower. It’s been so long I don’t remember how it performed though. I’d definitely get another Silencerco lower if I built another gun. I’ve been thinking about getting an Adams Arms P2 8” upper, especially with this sale, but it’s so close in length to the PWS 9.75” I haven’t done it. I’m tall and like the PWS handguard length. It has more velocity too. I have a pretty big Adams Arms collection. 7.5”, 11.5” 16” 5.56, 12.5”, 16” .308, 18” 6.5 Creedmoor and even have a 16” 300 blackout, so the 8” would really round it out. I’ve been saving for a binary charger 10/22 sbr though. You and me both, decisions, decisions. I hope I shed some light on your thoughts.

Thanks! Definitely a tighter group with subsonic ammo and the suppressor. Supersonic ammo had a huge flame I couldn’t see through lol

Thanks and glad to help! I have a binary trigger in it now and haven’t shot any rounds since this video with it. So far it looks like the receiver is holding up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooLPe6qthKaJfdksi=fuFv2KhoW3z9mgJt

Do it! 300 blackout is awesome for subs and supers. That’s cool you reload yourself. Wish I could to save money and get the best specs, but I don’t have the equipment. I really like the 110 grain VMAX too. I’ve got some Hornady and Ammo Inc factory loads.

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I was thinking of leaving the words rubber band out and adding “fully transferable” or “one you can make yourself” lol

​@RangeToyz that or post sample would work XD

@@scottdpugnificent lol

Hard primers on the S&B subs. It really needs to be clean to cycle those because they’re low pressure as well. I was using the + setting for subs and might have forgot to turn it to - for supers lol

I tried subs with my OSS HX-QD 7.62 and it was worse because of no back pressure and sounded loud af

@RangeToyz I have a trash panda and it runs all subs on plus. U might need to send it to sig and have them open your gas port or your gas selector. The primers isn't your issue.

@@solarlion144 you’re right, the new Rattler LT has a bit longer barrel and more gas through the selector. I should send it in. Mine is an early one and had this grip instead of the slanted backstrap version that came after.

@RangeToyz just send it in. Mine runs flawlessly . I trust it with my life. It even runs subs on the minus setting just might not lock back bolt. On plus it is gassed perfectly. It's just tuning the gas and yours will be perfect too... sorry I had to comment bc I saw it not cycle and was like wtf, that's unacceptable bc I own the same gun. Sig should fix it for free I would assume. They have good cs

I got mine used off of eBay, but it looks new and better priced than the one I ordered with a 10% off code from Optics Planet so I canceled that order. We are in the same boat. So many guns and accessories and never enough money lol