Many trilogies and series seem to be like that - where the first one is the best
@hugonautspodКүн бұрын
Definitely! We call that effect the publisher's trilogy.
@EricLucero4 күн бұрын
The Silo series is fantastic. One of my favorite SF series of all time. 5/5 The suspension of disbelief arguments were nonsense and I'm seemed to show a lack of understanding. Books like Hyperion or Foundation are WAY more ridiculous, requiring far more suspension of disbelief...but they get a pass because they are concensus classics. 😒
@EricLucero4 күн бұрын
There's very little fantasy.
@EricLucero4 күн бұрын
Frank Herbert isn't a good writer? 🤨🤨🤨🤨
@gordonburroughs24744 күн бұрын
Nice job, fellas! The carbon molecule snippet was the only one of those vignettes that I liked and really only because of the throw away line that continents are such fleeting things. They seemed to be writing exercises and while I thought the writing itself during those was clever, I don’t feel any of them were needed in an already too long novel. I did, however, appreciate having climate fiction out there that was hopeful. I hope that, one day, I can be as optimistic as Brent is that we’ll solve it.
@hugonautspod4 күн бұрын
We got this! Hopefully before any killer heatwaves hit
@gordonburroughs24744 күн бұрын
They’ve already hit - just not to the magnitude of that first chapter. The description of the danger regarding, not the ambient temperature, but the wet bulb temperature was on point. That is what they use in construction to determine safe exposure times working outside. He did a good job explaining that.
@zachsegala99294 күн бұрын
Just found the channel chasing silo tv insights - really enjoyed the discussion! You’ve gained another sub! Haven’t listened to anything else yet, but for what it’s worth, I enjoyed the conflicting perspectives!
@hugonautspod4 күн бұрын
Welcome, so glad you liked! We’re working on some more episodes about books we disagree on soon, gotta dig up the ones we read in the past and one of us liked but the other didn’t (and so we didn’t cover in the early days of the show)
@mydogkel5 күн бұрын
What? No comments? So listen, I love that you guys are introducing this book to new readers. It is a very important book. The violence IS horrific and you will be traumatized and changed for having experienced the hellscape in this novel. Your mind will not erase such images. It was also mind-blowing to consider that the issues addressed in this book actually justified the violence the readers endure. It is fair to ask if we are actually making choices if we are behaviorally conditioned to that level. Remove freedom and you remove humanity. Is social safety worth that? Who gets to decide? Which would you choose if freedom and safety were the only choices? Couple of other quick thoughts. First, Cody is right. The only way baseball is acceptable is if you are reading a good book at the time of the game. Sorry. Secondly, I want to turn you guys onto a movie that was life changing for me. The film is Brazil, directed by Terry Gilliam, released in 1985. This movie is what would happen if Orwell's 1984 had a baby with Monty Python. Seriously. Check it out. Thanks again for keeping this book, and its questions and ideas, alive. It is more than deserving.
@hugonautspod5 күн бұрын
This is crazy - we watched Brazil together like 5 years ago! Probably the only movie we've watched together in the last 20 years since we've been living in different cities. Totally agree it feels like it belongs a spot with the great dystopias, what a wild movie.
@mydogkel5 күн бұрын
@@hugonautspod Yeah. You know all hope is lost when the resistance is down to an air conditioning repairman who won't fill out forms and who dies by being consumed by paperwork - literally. And now, if you two will excuse me, I am off to go have my face stretched.
@nicholasjones32077 күн бұрын
I know this suggestion isn’t fiction but if you read brave new world it is most worthwhile and interesting to follow it up with brave new world revisited where he goes into all the ways we are controlled and manipulated in moving towards the world of BNW.
@hugonautspod7 күн бұрын
Oh nice, we’ll check it out! Also been wanting to read Island by Huxley.
@nicholasjones32077 күн бұрын
Hadn’t heard of Kallocain so have picked up a copy in penguin edition. A Clockwork Orange is great. Burgess wrote another dystopia, The Wanting Seed, but it’s not as good as clockwork.
@nicholasjones32077 күн бұрын
Just read the Aplin translation. Enjoyed it somewhat but not as much as the two major books it gets lumped in with. I could see how it influenced those. It influenced the ending of Orwell’s book for sure and is quite a nightmarish world.
@hugonautspod7 күн бұрын
What were the two other books it came packaged with?
@nicholasjones32077 күн бұрын
I mean 1984 and Brave New World
@brandond20058 күн бұрын
Octopuses in the background are great! ha
@Rolo_Bambino9 күн бұрын
I am Dh-10133
@PatrickJames197010 күн бұрын
My favorite sci-fi book of all time. 10/10. I also have an original 1973 hard cover. So groovy. :)
@hugonautspod9 күн бұрын
Ooo that’s nice. Treasure that baby!
@mydogkel10 күн бұрын
I am so happy to have found you guys. I just finished five semesters of "Science Fiction and Politics," a course on Open Culture that was originally taught by Courtney Brown out of Emory University in the early 2000s. I am familiar with many of the books you have reviewed, and am even more excited to dive into the books that you are introducing to us all. Your perspectives are medicine for me. I think it was Cody who commented about learning from fiction so much more than non-fiction and I deeply believe that observation is right on the mark. I can't wait to see more videos. Thank you for putting the time into these conversations and then sharing them with the rest of the world.
@hugonautspod9 күн бұрын
So nice of you to say! We most definitely will
@christophermccaig616011 күн бұрын
I’m sad to report after listening to it at work today I didn’t all out love it. I did really enjoy some parts but found a lot of the parts not related to the zone or red boring, besides the points of critical exposition. I loved the ending, I loved the ideas but I didn’t love red, I didn’t get that he was so kind and compassionate he seemed more of an asshole to me than anything. That being said I probably missed a lot only listening to it, and whilst working at that, so I will hopefully soon get around to reading it, and maybe I’ll feel differently.
@hugonautspod9 күн бұрын
Oh sorry to hear that! Hope you like the next one you read more
@christophermccaig61609 күн бұрын
@@hugonautspod the next read, which is actually reading, is Black Easter by James Blish! Very excited for this one. Then I may get a copy of Roadside Picnic and sit down with it to really delve deeper into the aspects everyone loves so much.
@hugonautspod9 күн бұрын
@@christophermccaig6160oh that’s fun, let us know what you think! I (this is Brent) am reading my first James Blish right now actually, A Case of conscience.
@christophermccaig61609 күн бұрын
@ oh that’s definitely on my list as well! Let’s reconvene after our respective Blish readings and give some spoiler free reviews lol
@Algumnomequalquer12 күн бұрын
i need spoilers bro, im after spoilers
@hugonautspod12 күн бұрын
You want em, we got em
@Shoutatclouds15 күн бұрын
Talking to a sentient tumor
@ConkerKing17 күн бұрын
Probably best to do these by decade... There's just way too many great sci fi novels.
@hugonautspod17 күн бұрын
That’s a great idea!
@solaris401917 күн бұрын
Read Golem XIV and Summa Technologiae, and only then will you have mind-blowing.
@DAGDRUM5317 күн бұрын
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Hugonauts present the most cognizant and thorough understanding of Snow Crash available on yootoob. I first read Snow Crash in 2018; my reread in 2025 has precipitated watching video essays on the subject. Nobody has reviewed it better than me Hugonaut droogs here. Well done, gentlemen.
@hugonautspod17 күн бұрын
Well thank you for saying so, droogie!
@ingjoe119 күн бұрын
just found u guys. 10 out of 10, liked and subscribed
@hugonautspod18 күн бұрын
Hell yea welcome!
@jacksondailey694919 күн бұрын
No Gene Wolfe or Jack Vance, worst list ever. Please never post again.
@hugonautspod19 күн бұрын
cool cool cool
@SergeRibalchenko21 күн бұрын
I read the book in my teen age, pre-internet era, and I was horrified by what I had read. I spent weeks going through what I had read. It is a very philosophical book, and like all philosophy, it can be very difficult to digest, especially at a young age. I think I became an agnostic largely because of authors like Stanislaw Lem. The idea that we probably can find something that we couldn't understand was worrying to say the least.
@courtneybrubaker973824 күн бұрын
And here we are I. 2024 with maga theocracy, Project 2025 and women being striped of our self agency. Our bodies are now property of the state. Women will be dying, orphans and husbands with kids with no mom. And since it is now law women are baby machines with no vote in the matter, the state should be paying for all costs before and after- be tax-exemptions, social security a and healthcare given to these state babies and women. As of November 2024, The Majority of States Have At Least One Restriction on Health Insurance Coverage for Abortion Services. Note: As of November 6, 2024, 13 states have banned abortion (Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and West Virginia. Three young women have died from being refused medical emergency treatment and two in Georgia. These are The ones being reported. How many of us will have to die because some sick make politician decided god demanded it???
@mortonbeard224028 күн бұрын
I found the 1972 movie a slog. I saw the 2002 version first and it is really good. You have me interested in the book now.
@hugonautspod27 күн бұрын
That's good to know - we'll watch the 2002 version. Hope you like the book!
@gosnooky28 күн бұрын
The deep time and Turnover civilizations made me consider that in each the thousands of transient interstellar civilizations could exist an entire Sci-Fi world and associated saga by itself. I also really like how Reynolds trusts his readers to infer certain terminology that doesn't need to be explained. Aspic of machines comes to mind - just nanobots in a transportable medium.
@dianag723929 күн бұрын
I'm intrested to add sci-fi books to my TBR list.
@hugonautspod29 күн бұрын
Welcome! Haha we’ll help ya fix that quick
@himbourbanistАй бұрын
I absolutely loved the tone of this book when I read it, the whole book feels so SO satirical and the world is bleak to the point of dark comedy
@himbourbanistАй бұрын
I love Brent's color-coded bookcase back there
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
Thanks! My favorite part of the house for sure.
@lennydellarocca4992Ай бұрын
3 stars. The potted pants and dog aliens are ridiculous. The plot is ok. I had a hard time visualizing places.
@MatthewGlenEvansАй бұрын
You mentioned at the start having a hard time visualizing the descriptions if the formations in Solaris. I remember those parts in Solaris being really captivating and printing a really good mental image. Blindsight, on the other hand, i struggled with frequently because i thought the descriptions of the alien ship were incredibly hard to visualize, and even the descriptions of smaller physical spaces like the ships interior i could never follow. To be fair i listened to a Solaris audiobook like ten years ago and read blindsight earlier this year.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
We must have different visual brains. Haha although I at least (Brent here) share your feeling of Shadrack(sp?) being basically impossible to visualize in Blindsight. He did give me a feeling about it though, that feeling of incomprehensible complexity and ever-coiling tessalation was cool, if not strictly speaking visual.
@jjrussell_galleryАй бұрын
I've been thinking about this story a lot the past fortnight! It's very prescient I think another moral lesson is this: when a system grows so complexed that no single person can understand a fraction of its complexities, problems within said system become increasingly difficult/eventually impossible to fix. Perhaps a system so far detached from it's creators, by time or by values, is also impossible to fix for people who have forgotten the vision of its creators.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
So glad you liked it! Sure hope we can figure out how to fix complex systems, the modern world is so big and complicated it feels like there is no way to organize it that is possibly comprehensible - and if we tried, the result probably wouldn't be complex enough to server the giganticness of society and the world. How do we set up a system that can self-organize? Totally agree that relying on the machine (and or its founders) to maintain itself seems doomed to fail, but what if we make it possible for people who see broken pieces to fix them, even if they can't possibly understand the entire structure?
@jjrussell_galleryАй бұрын
@@hugonautspod If people fix broken parts of a much larger whole, I think the fixes have to be seamless (i.e. identical to the original). Otherwise the fixes cause unforeseeable problems elsewhere in the system, and the result is a cascade of fixes & breaks until the system no longer resembles its original vision. And I suppose the only people who can reliably make seamless fixes are the system's creators or people who share the vision of its creators; if too few people have the vision, it cannot be fixed. Maybe such a cascade doesn't result in total collapse, like in The Machine Stops. Maybe it results in a "dumbing down" of the system to a point where it's comprehensible for most people & therefore easily changed? Just spitballin', but perhaps that's why anti-intellectualism sometimes precedes social revolution (China's Qin Dynasty & Cultural Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, the Russian Revolution, etc.). People who can't understand the broken system turn on people who they think can/should be able to understand & fix it, even if they can't.
@jaceacekalgoorlieАй бұрын
Um um um um, ffs
@BootsAreYellowАй бұрын
Rookie list. No Vance. No Zelazny. No Arthur C. Clarke. Bleh.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
Read em all, they’ve all got good stuff! Just not quite good enough to make the list
@He.knows.nothingАй бұрын
I have struggled a lot with dissassociation/derealization and reading VALIS by Philip K Dick left me wondering how close i was to being schizophrenic on top of it. Never before had i experienced an author that can so craftily communicate the actual feel of mental disorders. I say be careful with VALIS, it might bring you to the precipice of the loony bin, but i am definitely investing in more of his novels. The Scanner Darkly will be next.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
That’s wild! I bet you’ll like Scanner if you felt that way about valis
@He.knows.nothingАй бұрын
Hyperion is my favorite too! The sheer amount of mind fuckery that Dan Simmons embedded into those pages produces a first read through experience that no other novel I've read even comes close to emulating.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
It’s so good!
@IamsnugglesАй бұрын
I’ve been looking for a book channel! So happy I found you guys!
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
So glad you like, welcome!
@smoqreeferАй бұрын
Polish speaker here. No, Snaut is not a real Polish name. In fact, it sounds equally funny in Polish as it sounds in English. I recently read Solaris in its original language and I can agree with the comment below, all names in that book sound weird, as if Lem was trying hard for his characters to have universally sounding names.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
That’s super interesting, thanks for letting us know! I wonder if there are any kids named Snaut running around in the world somewhere
@annadobrowolska699615 күн бұрын
Yes, I remember that when I was reading it (in Polish), I was wondering whether I should read these names more in English or in Polish, because neither of them is a Polish name
@micahsmith728613 күн бұрын
I just read solaris for the first time and that scientist is named snow in my version his nickname is rat face if I'm not mistaken
@Евгений-з7м2фАй бұрын
Большое спасибо каналу и Рэю Нэйлеру за его творчество и содержательные и глубокие ответы на вопросы!
@dmrobby4309Ай бұрын
Come on now guys. The expanse series should be on here.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
We love the Expanse! Just not quite enough to put it on our best-of all time list. Done a couple episodes on it though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYCrnKeElpxlnLssi=M-9K-sA7Aiy_z4BI
@jimjones7980Ай бұрын
I'd be interested to see what youngest think of Daniel Keys Moran's The Long Run. To me, it seems to be a lot like Neuromancer, but also very much it's own thing.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
We’ll check it out, thanks for the rec!
@gordonburroughs2474Ай бұрын
I may need to try this one again. I read it some time ago and thought it was fine, but I wonder if I simply didn’t have the necessary background or exposure to concepts to fully understand it.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
This is Brent - definitely liked it a lot more on the second read! Way easier to follow with a head already chock-full of sci-fi knowledge
@braydenpresley1437Ай бұрын
Bookmarking this one for later. This is probably the next book I read after I finish Blood Music. Can't wait to hear your thoughts!
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
Nice! Blood music is fun too - Brent read that one recently and liked it, but not quite enough to bump it up the episode list. Let us know what you think of it!
@panelsofDOOMАй бұрын
One of my all time favourite books. I'm really excited to watch this one.
@MattBronwynАй бұрын
No love for Iain M Banks? Or is it just too hard to pick out of the bunch? Children of Time needs to be in any Top 10 list, sci-do or not, and I’d probably add Foundation too
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
We like Children of Time a lot! And Foundation, we've done episodes on both. Iain M Banks we need to read more, only done Consider Phlebas and didn't like it, but heard its definitely worth trying more.
@MattBronwynАй бұрын
@@hugonautspod any of the Culture novels are worth reading (and I don't think they're in any particular order). Player of Games is excellent.
@jjrussell_galleryАй бұрын
Fantastic narration 👍 hard to believe the age of this story! My interpretation of the moral is this: when a system collapses, everybody reliant on it suffers, regardless of whether they were supportive (the mother) or critical (the son) of said system. The only ones who don't suffer are those autonomous of the system (the surface dwellers). In other words, become self-sufficient. Not bashing idea, but the author's transcendentalist beliefs are strong in this story; similar to Huxley's Brave New World.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
So glad you liked it! And interesting idea on the takeaway, that’s fresh to us
@robbase714Ай бұрын
One thing I am noticing many people are overlooking about vampires in this story is their ability to hibernate. That's incredibly important in this story. Not only did they resurrect vampires as a species in order to utilize their intelligence, they did so in order to utilize their hibernation abilities. In the book, all of the crew have been spliced with whatever vampire genes allow for hibernation. Deep space travel wouldn't be possible without this. Most sci fi books that feature interstellar travel have some sort of stasis or hibernation that the characters most go into in order to travel far distances across many many years. This is a super unique take on that and I love it.
@gearoidosullivan356Ай бұрын
A curious list to my tastes, but I suppose isn't that the point of checking out other peoples lists. I see you've explained that ye didnt particularly care that much for Dune and so that's fair enough, and better to not include it just cos most people would. It is your list after all (I personally would've included it, but then again, I read it while working on an ecology project in the desert in the Middle East, so It may have resonated more as a result ). I'm not as well read on some of the more recent books, and I generally find dystopian novels boring, so that'd be a weakness in my choices. But I was kinda disappointed that neither Bester's "The Stars My Destination" or Zelazny's "Lord of Light" got a mention.
@hugonautspodАй бұрын
We like both of those, great reads! Just not quite enough to make the best of
@EdwinSherwoodАй бұрын
What’s a great mech fighting series or book? Got banned from battletech forums for asking what’s up with the lgbt crap everywhere. Nothing against them but why is that such a focus? Played mechwarrier games and want to get into some good books
@MayheM_72Ай бұрын
I read this book back in the '80s in high school. I was a voracious reader, often reading 3 or more books at a time, and I absolutely DEVOURED this book! I love high fantasy, sci-fi, crime, and military/spy thrillers. I saw the flaws in the system, where books are outlawed, and the recent condition of the world has some "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451" vibes to it. In their world, they are changing/erasing history, and they're not allowed to question the current regime. It becomes so dangerous to resist the system, and the protagonist is brave, living in fear, but still questioning the status quo. My 27yo son has read this book, and I'm sure my 13yo will read it soon.