The road. Havent read it, but i did warch the movie. This is actually the first time ive heard of the book. But im definatly confused about the sci sfi part . It seemed like a very dreary, and realistic take on the collapse of society. They spent basically the whole movie starving, and making sure they werent being followed. The father takes zero chances on anything. The skightest notion of danger aka people, they leave. Everyone they came into contact with 2 exceptions; results in a shoot out, killing; lucky ones got robbed for every single thing every article of clothing. Like the guy they leave loke that because he stole from them. As well as an argument of "why were you following me? How long have you been following me? In reality most people were just starving, and wanderinf around. But they are all so paranoid theh cant fathom the idea of coming across anither wanderer whose also starving. Children are especially vulnerable. But nothing in that movie was sci-fi. So im wondering how different the book is. I wouldnt call the walking dead scifi, and that has zombies in it. This just people and some dogs. Mostly adult men, very few children, not to many women. If anyone can offer some incite on the book please do i dont care about spoilers.

Lfg grandma!

The Book of Strange New Things by Michel Faber would mesh with these themes.

Stanislaw Lem was a renowned Polish writer and philosopher, best known for his works of science fiction that explore philosophical themes, technology, and the future of humanity. His writing blends speculative fiction with profound insights into the nature of intelligence, consciousness, and reality. Lem's most famous novel is Solaris (1961), which delves into the complexities of communication with alien intelligence. The story focuses on scientists studying an incomprehensible, sentient ocean on a distant planet. Other notable works by Lem include: 🌟The Cyberiad (1965) - A collection of humorous and philosophical stories about two intelligent robots, Trurl and Klapaucius, who embark on adventures across the universe. His Master's Voice (1968) - A novel that deals with the philosophical and scientific implications of an extraterrestrial message and humanity's attempts to decode it. 🌟The Star Diaries (1957) - A satirical series of space travel adventures featuring Lem’s recurring character, Ijon Tichy. 🌟Fiasco (1986) - A dark tale of humanity’s efforts to communicate with an alien civilization, exploring themes of failure and misunderstanding.

I'm sure her goal was to make all male readers around the world shiver and have nightmares, for the rest of their lives. hehe. that damn book, man!

This is one of my favorite books of all time. Besides being utterly tragic, it's also, at times, really funny. Especially when the expedition team are hanging out with each other.

I don’t recall the exact quote, but the idea that people mispronounce words (be they Latin or French) because they learned it via reading would apply to us all. Great show, gentlemen. I started Mercy of Gods this weekend; I’ll endeavor to finish before your episode drops. And yes - I loved the book discussion on the Discord. Great bunch of people you two have cultivated who are able to discuss conflicting points without devolving.

I love me a good first contact book 👉👈 Great intro from Brent!

No Jack Vance. No Roger Zelazny. Yeah sure okay. And Ender's Game? Really? Egad.

Hyperion is my favorite book period. Higher than 8 IMO

Its a great piece of writing, but actually the science itself is terrible. With the advent if renewals, and current fossil fuel stocks, this future is literraly unimaginable. Also, I felt the sexual-assualt graphics were overly done, did not contribute and were largely porn for no reason. Its a good dystopian pseudo-science, but for someome with actual know how in the field, it has zero credability

He got right that guns are dope!

😂 On the Marvel bit. I fell asleep during the final fight in The Avengers. "There Hulk goes, smashing another guy." For 20 minutes.

Peter will never disappoint me in being so funny and cheerful when talking about the tragic fate of humankind. If it comes to me, he can write Sunflowers as long as I live and I will gobble up every single installment :)

I'm glad Ender's game is in the list, people are so afraid to include it their lists due to the backlash against orson Scott Card. I must have read that book 10x or more over the years, the .othe.r boooks in .the Ender Universe are also not bad, in fact, they are a must read.

White hat, you have a really authentic persona and were very enjoyable to watch. The other guy, I'm sorry but your authenticity was only present when you were thinking more deliberately about what concept you were trying to identify, but as soon as you got past those moments I could see you throw a switch almost telling you you should be smiling in a moment. That being said I appreciated what both of you had to say and there are books on this list I haven't read yet and will be trying to get to. I agree with your favourite storylines on Hyperion as well, the emotional trauma of the scholar was just mind boggling and the priest's strength of will was insanity. Hyperion was great, I like Endymion more than Fall of Hyperion so far, currently in the middle of the series, but even though there's a gap in time I'd say that it's still a series

Biological immortality is not impossible, just very difficult right now

Sick Norma Jean reference, finally seeing them again at Furnace Fest. Thanks for the recs!

love the show guys

great show

Oh no, he completely missed the point

This is my favorite light Sci-fi series! Thank you for talking about it! 😊

Great story, great narration. Thank you.

Maybe the sci fi book that has had the most impact on me. Thanks for spreading the good word!

How does it compare to Tad Williams Otherland series??? I really enjoyed it, but I hadn't heard of permutation

You guys should read the Galactic Milleu trilogy + Saga of the exiles + Intervention by Julian May.

I expect that few people who even started watching this video share my opinion of The Three Body Problem. I really disliked it. I thought that it was really poorly written (surprising, because Ken Liu is such a good writer) and the characters were not credible. I had trouble finishing it. (I practically never give up on a book, wanting to give it a completely fair chance.) My husband didn't like it either, but he appreciated the historical information included.

So I gave this a second listen to (whilst re-silicon sealing my bathroom); I have to say, this is one of your best eps. Jam packed and engaging - well done guys! I think you guys nail most of the aspects of the book - it's worth talking about how polarizing the book is to people. Many loved it, but many found it unbearable or overrated. I really think it comes down to preference (those who watched the movie first generally don't like the book and vice versa.) I think Cody is dead wrong on the movie (yes thats right!) , it's jam packed with philosophy, it's just the exposition that's different. I.e. when they talk about duty, or enlisting to have kids. The classroom discussion about what makes a civilian vs a citizen. It's all there! That said, to make you smile; did you know the director deliberately picked beautiful...talentless actors to make the irony/cynicism more believable? I loved how you guys contrasted Foreverwar with this. I think it might even be worth contrasting with old mans war too.

I am going to have to see if you got Dorsai on your list. These two books are great analysts of the future of the military.

I think its time i finally gave this a proper read. All I can say is (this is lame i know) but the movie honestly is in my top 10 of all time 😅

Both Starship Troopers and Forever war were great. They were stepping stones for other great series like Old Man's War and Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series.

Love the book, but the author is kind of an a-hole.

Great review plus bringing a guest was a thoughtful idea! I think Starship Troopers is such an interesting piece of sci-fi. I love how it mixes action with social commentary. It’s take on propaganda and militarism still feels relevant today (I think so)❤. Thanks for breaking it down - you've made me want to watch it again! I guess I’m feeling stoked as well now eager to see it again

That was a fun discussion and wise to get an insider’s examination of the material.

Nice video. I am going to speak about it in a video soon but I really disliked it. It's just so incredibly boring...

The director of the movie hated the book and claimed it was fascist propaganda. His movie deliberately makes the themes and ideas presented in the book look silly

A big reason for all the Psi stuff back then is John W. Campbell.

Great video as usual. I wonder if you guys have read Dorsai! by Gordon R. Dickson. It came out the same year as Starship Troopers. The two of them simultaneously started military SF. I don't think it's as good as ST and it's largely forgotten today but still historically significant

It's worth noting that paul verhoeven was born in late 30s Netherlands so he spent a lot of his childhood under Nazi rule. So when he read the book he didn't see "necessary service" he saw a system for working young people into tools for violence. Also the camp is intentional. The commercials, the cast almost exclusively being late night soap opera stars, freaking doogie howser playing a psychic SS officer, he meant all of that. It's supposed to be a propaganda film made by and for the fascist world government.

My gawd this book was so good

THE SPARROW. GET THAT READ. MARY DORIA RUSSEL

Infuriatingly overrated book. This was my introduction to high level sci-fi and didn't know how bad the writing was until I started reading other books.

Oh! i've never heard of this one!

Character building in the books are insane. Have you guys seen the tv shows?

More shorts please! Hi Cody!

The Gold at the Starbow's End by Frederik Pohl comes to mind. It's admittedly long and a little boring but the spectacular ending is worth the investment in my opinion. It was later expanded into the novel Starburst

This isn't truly the full cast. There are no voice actors for the machine! I hoped there would be 2 or 3 voice actors doing those parts. Maybe next time?

wut r those iems because ut feels like ur wearing them in reverse

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Mark Watney is such a well written character - the Martian is a rare scifi book that had me chuckling throughout!