Wait wtf. How did I miss Gorr?? Thanks for this one, he's definitely t3 but working like a t2 this meta haha.

Not saying that won't happen, but couple things to consider in relation to this: - she will never be a nuke. It's really important to fully accept that, because the damage question has a way of coloring all other feedback. You didn't explicitly ask for more, but I feel the need to say this given the comment about "it wouldn't be broken for short fights," and she was never intended to even knock on that door. - pretty much all of her utility is completely automatic. There is no upkeep to how she turns off so many skill threats. She just does. This means the limiter on her pretty much needs to be related to her damage, and there's a good reason for losing your whole ramp to be a real possibility. That's what's keeping her from being the "mutant Nimrod" people were worried we'd shipped with her, and we have to be very careful not to "fix" something that shouldn't be fixed. - a pause on lights and a pause on a heavy when the opponent can't be stunned with a debuff are *very* different skill asks, and should probably not be compared Again, it's not my call if she gets tuned up, and if it was, it wouldn't have been made yet, but I'm trying to offer some context for why things are the way they are. It's always easy as a designer to remove all the tension from a character's loop. It's also very often the wrong call.

@@Daddylonglegs93 makes sense. I guess i was looking at it from a lense that by the time you stack 2 L2s, it wouldnt be "nuke like" because of the time it takes to get there in vanilla match ups. Also didnt really look at her damage as needed to be a limiter. Its hard not to stress the timer while playing her. I assume thatll just get easier with practice. Anyways, thank you for the explanation in vid and response.

Mutants are being assigned. You're misinterpreting the list on a couple levels, but the main thing is that tier 2 doesn't mean "not assigned," it just means you're not in trouble if you don't have them. There are a lot of reasons for this, but one of the biggest is how dominant Onslaught is, which does not at all translate to mutants not being used.

​@@Daddylonglegs93Looks like there is no diversity in the mutant class. Also Skill defenders right now don't need a mutant attacker, any class can do it. Wonder why dust is in tier 2 with all her immunities and utility. From what I see mutant attackers don't take on classes other than skill and even for skill other classes can handle them. Sad times for mutant class.

@harryatomix that is not what I said, but it sounds like you'll hear what you want to

Serpent: far and away one of the best options for Spring of Sorrow solos, following being far and away one of the best incursions options Some of y'all: so offensive buff, yeah? No, he could not hit a little harder 😂

There are tons of war videos of him out there. Many are just older. I don't think Stranz is still uploading, but he has good ones from a while ago with text explanations, and Clownius Clown maintains a channel that should have some recent stuff. In short, he's a buff immune with very powerful ability power rate reduction on his base, and with the Anti-Venom synergy allowing him to start with a wither, he basically becomes science Valkyrie.

It's definitely not a one to one given how much placement matters, and it can actually hurt you to follow t1 too closely, but... I'll think about it. Could probably work something out without getting too much into placement

It's the optional part lol

@@Daddylonglegs93 Lol 😆 😂 I do like having both it can be hard to line up trying to put the Incinerate on when Opponents have no power into a Faulter into an Sp2 its a short window and tough to get in high stress situations but he's been really good for me in War I think the 7* will be here to stay and be a great champ for a long time.

Yeah she's definitely a fair add for t3. I'll do that. Tactic inflates her a bit, but she'll do work generally

me when dab west

@@wwilliamtb710 me when Billiam

this isnt a tierlist for this saga

@@wwilliamtb710 uhh read title?

William is correct - the video specifically says the actual placements are tactic-agnostic. You must have missed that

Simply, yes. His design is great, but he doesn't do enough damage to be worth assigning if he's punching up at all, and that limits him.

Yeah....I can see that....that's why I made him my first r2 champ and, just yesterday, took him to r3 to become valiant!

@teebleezy8466 that's awesome! I do still really like him

Sandman is in t2 haha. But thanks.

​@@Daddylonglegs93 Am i exceedingly blind? I don't see him there...

You are not. My app opened the wrong one lol. Sorry about that! I added him to t3 because I agree he should at least be there.

He doesn't suck, he just doesn't outperform most of the Mutants outside of that content. Something is bound to come eventually for him to run through

Haha "when" doesn't necessarily mean "soon"

It's less about the insight and more about the million permutations haha. I could talk for hours on a panel with three other smart people and then other alliances would probably still disagree 😂 Maybe someday

@@Daddylonglegs93you’d be amazed how many would watch or listen to that.

The everest content was always slated for August, actually. At one point, the last piece was loosely planned to be in incursions, which would've been this month, but we moved it to a different source, which effectively moved Vision back, even though he's in game now.

It's being looked into

He does not, sadly. Very limited art support available for these

That's a really tough one. I think I would say Patriot, but less because he's mine and more because of the fact that a lot of sigs have an inflection point around sig 60 or so, and so him being at 20 has some of the most to gain. Prowler's curve is weird, so I don't count him, and I've been pretty happy with my sig 40 Shocker

Thanks!

Man if only you'd actually watched the video after that! Imagine!

@@Daddylonglegs93lol

What a wild take lmao 🙄

I definitely saw a few people specifically ask for phasing haha. Turns out we agreed 😂

Spring of Sorrow isn't done yet, though? Are you sure you've missed?

I'm not at liberty to say, but we are aware of the class considerations

@@Daddylonglegs93so you’re saying (but not saying) no Deathless Hyperion then 😢

I mean I really cannot confirm or deny anything, but Hype specifically would make for three cosmics out of five champs once Thanos drops. 🤐

@@Daddylonglegs93 I am just thinking, what if Thanos would be in Titan class which has benefits towards all other classes?

@thienlieu7114 bluntly, not an option for reasons I can't really get into

Lol I'm not sure that is the real question, but no, they won't

OG Vision needs his specials redone

Or it's a different kit 🤷🏻‍♂️

Generally the right move anyway

Deathless Scarlet Witch?