That looks like a valve grinder, will also face lifters and possibly face rocker arms.
@frankward7093 сағат бұрын
Very sweet old machine Thanks for the video. From from Frank in Walla Walla Washington
@rickhand82285 сағат бұрын
You really explain the operation very well. Some aspects of grinding would be difficult to put into words. I am mostly a hobbiest and have bought a small, used import tool grinder and am trying to learn how to use it.
@Lappemountainliving5 сағат бұрын
We thank you for the kind words! If you have any specific questions we would be happy to try and help. Enjoy your new machine!
@jacquespoirier9071Күн бұрын
To what I can see, that machine is a bit like a boring mill, the basic machine is there and you'll need to design and fabricate your own jigs and setups to fully use the potential. it is definitely a keeper. good luck merry christmas and happy new year.
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Thanks, we are definitely excited to see what we can accomplish with it! A very merry Christmas to you!
@markhenry416Күн бұрын
Looks like a old kwickway valve grinder to me
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
It has some of the same features but it's a Kwik-Way multi purpose machine. Says so right on it. Thanks for watching
@RandysshopКүн бұрын
Merry Christmas. It looks like your getting the machine figured out.👍
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Merry Christmas! Yes sir. Figured some of it out. It still has some secrets waiting to be discovered! Cheers!
@hu5116Күн бұрын
Hi, again thank for making this video! After watching again, I had two questions: 1) the model you have is the 1340? Assuming yes, how do you find the length? Too long? Would the 1324 have suited better? 2) one of the criticisms of the 1340 I’ve heard is the Z bed travel hand wheel to the far right at the end of the bed. Apparently that is the only way to produce controlled slow cutting motion in the Z axis (the lower wheel on the carriage is only for quick coarse travel). How does this work for you and is it a pain to use that wheel so far to the right? Would that make you consider the 1324 instead with its 24” bed length? Thanks!
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Howdy! Yes we do have the 1340 model. Personally I find any extra length to be an advantage. It simply leaves more options on the table. I do agree with you that the micro hand wheel way over on the right, (For the fine X travel?) is a little awkward at times but I still wouldn't give up bed length because of it. This fine feed wheel is almost exclusively used when milling. I've found that a little extra creativity in my set ups can reduce the awkwardness some. Hope this helps. Cheers!
@stevengehm1287Күн бұрын
There are still Round Leather belts for sewing machines available, l believe..
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ypaulbrown2 күн бұрын
Love this, Merry Christmas from Orlando, Paul❤❤
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Happy holidays!
@toddk.58732 күн бұрын
You could try to put a dial indicator on that course infeed & bump it to where you want it if you needed to.
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Very true. That would definitely make it more controllable. However, I've learned that grinders hate to plunge generally speaking. Plunging is the only way to gash an end mill though where rapid in/out feeding can be combined with the feel and sound of the operation.
@normcameron23162 күн бұрын
Congratulations, that's really sweet. Using the old ratchet straps as belts is genius.
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! We appreciate your comment!
@v8packard2 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alro24342 күн бұрын
Thanks. Using a fine oil stone to finish up the cutting edge has really improved my bit's cutting ability since the grinding wheel is kinda coarse & even if using a fine wheel it dtill doesn't come close to an oil stone's finish.
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@alro24342 күн бұрын
It should have a very accurate gradation for setting the 6-ball chuck and the 3-roller attachment angles and it doesn't look to have either one, and guessing at it''s nfg. Also would the 3-rollers need a longer belt & then be able to hold a lifter for facing and still have enough range to still do the valve ends?
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
The six ball chuck has degree graduations on about a 9" diameter so the lines are pretty far apart and it's easy to get the exact angle you need. The 3 roller offset has a micrometer dial for very precise setting of the angle. The 3 roller mechanism has plenty of extra belt length and tensioning spring travel to accommodate larger diameters.
@markblack99872 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas to you too!
@miketaylor63302 күн бұрын
Glad to finally see my father’s old yard sale find up and running. Way to go.
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
We're super happy to give it a new home! She's a beauty! Cheers! A&T
@deakin28802 күн бұрын
i didn't notice a reservoir for grinding lubricant. btw i have the original manual for my kwikway valve grinder and it says a mixture of kerosene and lard
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Interesting. I've seen later models with coolant but this old girl never had it. Thanks for watching!
@deakin2880Күн бұрын
@@Lappemountainliving mine is from the 40's if i remember correct
@loydsa2 күн бұрын
You folks have a wonderful Xmas. I thought my Cincinatti Monoset was complex but seeing your Kwik-way grinder I realise I was mistaken as to the meaning of "complex". Best regards to you both Sarah
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Many thanks! You have a wonderful Christmas as well! We are totally thrilled to have been given this machine. Thanks for watching!
@akfarmboy49Күн бұрын
Yes, it does. right it does remind me of a Cincinnati monos set.
@trialetcompagnie44812 күн бұрын
Magnifique machine j adore 🤩🤩🤩👏👏👏
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@CandidZulu2 күн бұрын
That thing must have been very expensive when it was new!
@Lappemountainliving2 күн бұрын
I think you're right. Of course back then very expensive was probably $40.00 Thanks for watching!
@johna76612 күн бұрын
Nice grinder!
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Thanks!
@liftmech99882 күн бұрын
Sirs I would like to warn potential buyers of the smithy brand of machine after I got my machine not knowing how a lathe is suppose to run I could never get a smooth finish on my turnings when I finally discovered that clutch mechanisms was wrapped and would vibrate the machine I tried to get Smithy service to help me repair it it is now 1 year later after 15 e-mails and several calls that no one will answer or call you back I have started to warn people of the way this company treats its customers after they already have gotten all the money they think there going to get out of you so if you are planning to purchase one of these machines all I can say is DON'T DO IT
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@rmcphearson13 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you. Very similar (identical I dare say) to spin grinding and relief grinding (backing off) reel mowers. Can you make this video shareable? The link I’m trying to share doesn’t allow it.
@Lappemountainliving3 күн бұрын
Thank You! I'm not sure why you can't share the video? It is posted as public so everyone should be able to do all the normal stuff with it?
@jimtrewartha25943 күн бұрын
I knew an old Kwik Way salesman. Its too bad hes been gone for many years, he would have known everything about your machine. I was 18 - 20 at the time, and he ran a machine shop and parts store. Im 67 now, so that was many yrs ago! I have used Kwik Way valve grinders, but I own a Sioux machine. Interesting! Good luck!
@Lappemountainliving3 күн бұрын
That's a great story, thanks for sharing!
@Richar6025 күн бұрын
The video is not very good for people who do not have this equipment. but it looks fun. Thanks for your trouble.
@hagenvontronje73527 күн бұрын
I use a small scope 3x28 with crosshair. I dont depend on Battery. Red Dot on top of the scope. Bigger magazines are available with speedloader
@Lappemountainliving6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@CandidZulu8 күн бұрын
That extension on the tailstock looks like a quick way to chatter town!
@CandidZulu10 күн бұрын
Is this something you do professionally, or do you just have a geometry fetish?
@LappemountainlivingКүн бұрын
Yes
@akfarmboy4910 күн бұрын
There is flat belt maker in Wisconsin that will custom flat belts for machines. I forgot their name.
@akfarmboy4910 күн бұрын
Eagle belting sells many shapes of urethane belting that you buy in 100 foot box and there’s a melting tool you use it. You cut it and melt it together. The beauty of using their belt is you don’t have to disassemble the whole machine to install a one piece O-ring belt, and they have v belts and square belts
@Lappemountainliving10 күн бұрын
Good to know. Thanks!
@CandidZulu11 күн бұрын
Will that machine do surface grinding too?
@Lappemountainliving10 күн бұрын
Yes but it's nowhere near as good at it as a surface grinder
@EdSteger-en6jj11 күн бұрын
every cool machine possibly a belt may go on around the outside of the roller with the little handle and holds tension on the valve stem. Also you can cut the round rubber belt on a 45 degree angle then heat both ends between the a flame an melt the seem together I have a small lathe that uses a similar round belt.
@Lappemountainliving11 күн бұрын
I believe you are right about the belt routing. Someone sent me a pic showing exactly what you described.
@CandidZulu12 күн бұрын
Guy Lautard has a jig for sharpening small drills in his book, very simple, just a block of metal.
@dannywilsher416512 күн бұрын
I've had several valve grinding machines, but they weren't this fancy.
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LMTechTools13 күн бұрын
Sir... I hv 1 doubt.. What if dovetail cutter has more teeth (16 T).. Do i hv to use smaller dia wheel...? But in that case my machine Y table doesn't reach upto cutter....
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Yes a smaller wheel would help get you into tighter spaces. Sometimes an adapter plate can be made up to do things that are just outside of your machines abilities. Thanks for watching!
@stevengehm128713 күн бұрын
Great find!
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Thanks It just fell into my lap
@stevengehm128712 күн бұрын
sent some info in an email.. might be interesting✌
@Laxmipathi-h4w14 күн бұрын
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@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Is there anything in particular that you are interested in seeing? We may be able to do it. Cheers!
@Laxmipathi-h4w14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Many Many thanks! How very generous of you! Laxmipathi-h4w 's handle will forever be shown in our Super thanks at the end of our videos. Cheers!
@ClydeShelton-fv1lf14 күн бұрын
and this is why i love having a shaper.... i can signal point cut dovetails and dont need the cutter! mostly because i dont have a modern proper tool grinding set up... just a bench grinder!
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Yes shapers are great. I'm in the market for one myself. Thanks for watching!
@rickhand822814 күн бұрын
Regarding the "mystery device", Is there a chance the belt could go around the outside of both of the fixed pulleys AND around the third pulley? The idler pulley does appear to have a lot of travel. That would explain the discoloration on the pulleys and still trap a valve stem between the three rollers without interference from the belt. Not the most elegant setup for sure!
@Lappemountainliving14 күн бұрын
Brilliant! I had the same thought after making the video but still wasn't sure. Then a viewer sent me a link to a picture of a complete unit showing exactly that. Good on you for solving the "mystery device"! Link to pic below. Cheers! www.picclickimg.com/images/g/LxAAAOSw9nlmkqlO/s-l1600.jpg
@zed945215 күн бұрын
Maybe if you can research the pattern number and get the information it might shed some light on what it does.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
great idea! Thanks!
@aintdatsnipes17715 күн бұрын
Well done, thanks.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@phlodel16 күн бұрын
I know one thing, those belts do need guards, I'm not a safety guy, I'm the guy who's lucky to retire with fingers after a life of playing with machines. A lot of these fine, old machines have to be scrapped because they don't meet safety standards.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Good to know. I plan on making some guards once I figure out what they looked like. I would like the guards to look as original as possible. Thanks for the comment!
@phlodel15 күн бұрын
@@Lappemountainliving Many years ago, I worked fabricating machinery. My boss, Bob Williams, used to say, "Guards are like clothes on the machine Good guards make the machine look good." Face it, no matter what the machine is, we want it to look good. I'll bet the original guards were just lovely.
@bearbait222116 күн бұрын
My guess on the roller part. For grinding cam followers/lifters. My 2 cents neat machine
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
I tend to agree with you. I'm going to fab up a belt and some other rigging and see how it does at that.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir16 күн бұрын
Very nice machine.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Thanks Rusty!
@SonOfMrGreengenes16 күн бұрын
Cool old machine. Is there a model number or any other kind of information on it that might be helpful for research purposes?
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
There's nothing. It has a serial number but that was a dead end. I tried the manufacturer but no luck there. Still looking for a manual. don't even know if I routed the round belt properly. Thanks for watching!
@ypaulbrown16 күн бұрын
Vintage Machinery has a Kwik Way model H ,four page brochure on a piston turning and grinding machine….that looks similar…1958 vintage, look for Cedar Rapids engineering and then at the publication reprints section…sorry I can’t send the link, but it issued to find…Paul
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Thanks Paul ! I'll check that out
@jacquespoirier907116 күн бұрын
it is an cylindrical grinding machine with a provision for valve grinding, To what I see, the use is limited to your imagination, you can have to fabricate some attachements to widen the use but it can do it never scrap that machine.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
It's a keeper for sure! Thanks for watching!
@johngermain353516 күн бұрын
Started watching and realized in my scrap bucket was a chuck that matched yours paused the video went and brought it in and showed the wife she agreed it is the same.
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Wow! What are the chances??? More importantly how did you get your wife to watch our channel,,,LOL
@johngermain353515 күн бұрын
@Lappemountainliving I watch on the big TV she tolerates my weird obsession I can send it to you if you want.
@Lappemountainliving12 күн бұрын
Very generous offer. I am a collector of all things machining. I would hate for you to go to great expense to ship it as I don't currently have an immediate need for it. It's up to you. Either way thanks for the offer!
@deakin288016 күн бұрын
that's cool i have my gfrathers kwikway boring bar, valve grinder, seat installer never saw that
@Lappemountainliving15 күн бұрын
Thanks! I've never seen anything like it either. Thanks for watching!