036: Michael Jordan Had Jumpers Knee?!? Keys to Fixing Your Tendon Pain!!

[@Nick-rn3is]

Would love to see you have the kneesovertoes guy

[@umutakgul8929]

From insane workload, like 15 hours basketball and 5 hours gym, to literally 0 doing nothing else than sitting in my chair and having online class during quarantine. Before I had jumpersknee, some days even so hard, that I had to stop playing, but since I have done nothing for 4 months now I have 0 pain left but man I am scared about ramping up volume too soon once I can get started. So in conclusion I just want to say thank you because you pretty much save me with your knowledge from giving too much too soon and hurting my knee again lol

[@leonsmith3030]

I heard you brother. The struggle is real. I've just recently developed mine. I started jumping off my less dominant foot to compensate but I don't think that's enough just because even landing or posting people us can hurt.

[@kabirsdhaliwal]

Coming from a kinesiology background, these videos are so informative! Shoutout to PJF

[@TheBongeSpob]

Same bro i love it

[@garymartin23]

If your covering jumpers knee please don’t forget the Achilles’ tendonitis much needed

[@steadyjy]

Go follow @davidgreyrehab on IG. You will benefit to your injury!

[@garymartin23]

@@steadyjy I’ll check it out thank you

[@paulmaldo8261]

goata locomotive system is 💯💯

[@cjsao4005]

Look up kneesovertoesguy

[@garymartin23]

@@cjsao4005 👌🏽

[@garymartin23]

Paul please do me a favour.. do a collab with kneesovertoesguy, two best in the game for ballers both Jordan fans we all need this 🤙🏼

[@vinuzo9548]

We do need this. They disagree on a lot of stuff as well so it would be cool to see them hash it out.

[@garymartin23]

@@vinuzo9548 maybe but they still want us becoming better athletes

[@tewnice6734]

doubtful. them 2 got beef! they also approach it in very different ways so i dont see it happening

[@garymartin23]

@@tewnice6734 really didn’t no that, two best init so why not, even with different views that’s a good thing..

[@ngueuchebruno2817]

Two varying views. Will be nice to hear them talk about deep ranges vs game specific angles

[@davidgraham7527]

The Power of Now is an old classic. Also Still was Speaks by him was great work.

[@ivan.smojver]

Relentless from Tim Grover is a book every squid🦑 should read.

[@vedantagnihotri5545]

Absolutely

[@theincrediblesuperman]

Hey Paul can you please do a podcast/episode about achilles tendonitis

[@steadyjy]

Go follow @davidgreyrehab on IG. You will benefit to your injury!

[@theincrediblesuperman]

@@steadyjy thanks!

[@cadebaer4174]

He has done a video talking about how to improve tendon health in the knees and mentions of the theory on treating the Achilles is the same

[@paulmaldo8261]

i recommend u to study about the goata movement

[@theincrediblesuperman]

@@paulmaldo8261 thanks

[@tobyncummins]

Paul’s chair looks like something Darth Vader would sit on.

[@sergiomendezlora]

Hey Paul! I´m from Canary Islan, Spain. Ypu are one of my mentors. I´m a sport science student and it´s a honor learning it while I learn from your podcast too. Thanks a lot.

[@ProdigalSuns]

I got it from riding wheelies on my big bmx bike.. I'm also a pool skater at 54. Funny thing is I can still do both activities i have a hard time getting in my talll truck. I can't jog our run at all. I've had this going on for almost 2 years now.

[@Yo3j2442]

Truth in the bouncing back hard after a break part. I go crazy if I can’t be active, so it was a real journey of patience to limit myself from powerful movements and adapt. It’s crucial to explore the pain tolerances and triggers more thoroughly when you ramp up because you learn your safety zones. Pain is always there tho

[@michealaguilar2024]

My injury got to a point where I was limping after my games. So I stopped rested and rehabbed for 2 yrs trying to solve it. Tore my meniscus in the process. And now 2 yrs later I still have the injury this is worse than a acl tear. I never ruptured it. I’m 21 and now my life is over when it comes to soccer. I’m in severe depression. Don’t be like me guys. Don’t ever play through this shit!

[@thatstheguy07]

Have you made any progress?

[@davidambrose1838]

I’m so sorry man thank.. you for the warning

[@musicmeister1313]

shttt man, during rehab i teared my meniscus in my right knee. ig i went too hard....tho if i cant do rehab how do i fix it?

[@nikolaigednov]

You can see in that philly series in 91, he shifts his famous calf sleeve over his left knee. He did that every now and then earlier in his career too.

[@jrhodes23]

Nice catch

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

KOT guy is changing peoples lives. Have you guys put your differences aside? His method is helping many I know including young athletes with major injuries.

[@gabrielbraga6749]

Gotta love the love you bring along with such precious information. Thanks for the high quality feed, bro!

[@elitesmartathletes]

If MJ had jumpers knee then I have no excuses 😅

[@zachward7771]

Ok

[@ravey4814]

@@zachward7771 stfu

[@zachward7771]

@@ravey4814 sthu

[@theylovemikell501]

Let’s say I been dealing with jumpers knee all season. Now it’s the off-season, is that the time to get better by doing isometrics and gradually increasing stress to my knees

[@emanuelschueler6962]

Sure

[@emanuelschueler6962]

Just make sure you do gradual plyometric and weightroom progressions

[@janellaviado1211]

I’m a female athlete who’s been dealing with patellar tendinitis for yeaaaars in my ball career. Trying to finally be free from it😭 Thank you for this info!

[@thatstheguy07]

Are you free yet

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

I know this is 3 years later but have you ever tried knees over toes guy? Healed all my pain. Was watching this for my son and ran across a few comments hating on the guy. I guess there will always be haters

[@spiralphysiotherapy4196]

My proximal hamstring tendon has responded sig well to gelatine + Vit C in addition to load mx strategies (heavy strength rack pulls, bounds, hurdle jumps, sprint accels, 72hr recovery periods). Its a win

[@Rickyewu]

22:18 is about Kobe v Lebron mentality towards "the grind"

[@rahulleonardhans5627]

What a podcast ya.....learned many things.....cant believe this stuff is free.....so fortunate 🎉❤...thank u so much Paul....for the episode....really helped me 😊

[@matan7]

We need that PJF and KOT guy collab

[@karigrandii]

KOT guy isnt on the same page with tendon health, he doesnt belive in keith barr’s studies with gelatin+vitamin c for example (source: I asked him and he replied)

[@quentinschneider6110]

Kot ain’t on pj‘s level lol

[@tdy9932]

Kot out here scamming people with exercises with no scientific evidence lol

[@jdoggoliscious]

PJF uses evidence based practice. KOT is just a super athletic dude that teaches people how to stretch, knowing that range of motion is a limiting factor for a lot of people. Dude doesn't have a background in sport science (anatomy, exercise physiology, pathology, nutrition, physical therapy, biomechanics, biochemistry) which is why he tends to "shy" away from certain topics and will often ignore research.

[@matan7]

Everyone here seems to not like KOT

[@soupnfresh]

I got it a week ago on both knees from trying to do too much to lose weight. Took a dancing class and I think that did. I rested from exercising, rested my knees by elevating my legs while lying on the sofa and bed. Started to do leg raises while in these positions to strengthen the back of my knees and legs. This helped and I have no more pain. Rest, elevate, do some leg raises to build muscle behind your legs. Started walking with shorter strides and so far so good. I also forgot to mention that I wasn't stretching before the injury. I make sure to stretch now. A family member uses a roller behind their knees on the floor and it helps them. I believe rolling the hamstrings helps the knee too. Just take it easy and rest. Build back up slowly and try to build muscle.

[@soupnfresh]

Also, I never iced and made sure my knees and legs were warm especially with the AC on all the times.

[@karlodgaard6940]

Could you do a podcast with Knees Over Toes Guy, and or talk about his exercise philosophy

[@R_Baca04]

I doubt he would because he doesn’t have an evidence based approach to training. I don’t think his stuff works tbh

[@Nick-rn3is]

All of stuff he does isn’t evidence based majority is tho & if he is training professional athletes and helping increase their vertical jump while helping get rid of knee pain I would think his stuff works

[@sk-sn4vh]

@@R_Baca04 all his stuff is evidence based lol he is the evidence and all the people he trains are the evidence and he trains professional athletes you do realise it doesn’t have to be some study carried out by scientists half of those people encourage complete bs when if you have any knowledge of training you can clearly see kot guys training is very legit and him and pjf will agree on most things

[@R_Baca04]

@@sk-sn4vh 1. You said he is the evidence. You can’t generalize one person’s results to every one else. That is not how evidence based approaches work, and in general, how science works. 2. What professional athletes does he actually train? If he does train any, are any actually significantly elite athletes? (He doesn’t really show which athletes he trains he just tells the viewer he does) 3. I am a CSCS (Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist) with a BS in EMS. I can judge by what he shows in his videos that his stuff will not get you to elite level athletic ability. Might get your knees feeling better (maybe), but won’t really do anything for you as far as increasing athletic ability unless you’re new to lifting. 4. What BS has been portrayed in any scientific studies focusing on athletic performance/rehabilitation?

[@michealaguilar2024]

It’s a scam dude. Just some guy with crazy flexibility trying to make a quick buck.

[@ВенелинХристов-п8б]

Cant wait for that new programme!

[@MrAlidor]

This is an excellent case study. Also, a key factor that may increase risk is the running preference of the athlete. Aerial (ball of foot contact) vs terrestrial (mid/rear foot contact) cf the work of Gindre et al. Our approach to health has been wrong all along for years in Western Europe. Health is not removing external stress. Health is having the capacity to adapt to stress. The principe of hormesis.

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

Which landing was better?

[@alexl4853]

Awesome video as always Paul! Also, great book recommendation! I read that book for the first time back in 2012 when I was 21 and I’ve been reading it once a year ever since. It just keeps me in check. The power of now is a must, especially if you’re struggling at the moment. Cheers

[@tkdfuz3141]

Really enjoyed the book suggestion

[@tannertimothyphelps4268]

This explains the 1 1/2 inch bump below my dads kneecap. He bad terribly osgoodschlaters

[@benharrold8467]

im reading one of phil jacksons books and he said in 91 between game 2 and 3 against philly jordan got tendinitis

[@prabsharankaknia8479]

You know I’m buying that program as soon as it drops. Need a program that addresses tendonopathy and how to recover and heal it.

[@17thwonder]

Love these informative videos. Keep up the quality work

[@andresposada7064]

Love it Paul, thank you. Will definitely be sharing this. Keep up the great work🏐🏀

[@miketsak2104]

Fantastic speach information and analysis. Thanks sooo much!!!

[@michealaguilar2024]

This injury is impossible to get rid of I rehabbed foam roll, strengthen, rest for 2 yrs. It ruins your life. I’m 21 and now have to retire from soccer. My sporting days are done. This is worse than a acl tear and is super underlooked as a injury. It’s over for me anyone who has this don’t make it chronic or your active days are over.

[@hugosortti606]

Do you still have it?

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

Jerry West actually had one hell of a vertical and was a jumper. He actually talked about it on a podcast before he passed.

[@enjoy3923]

perfect!!!! right when i need it

[@pat4340]

Great and informative video. Can you please also do a video on dealing with lower back pain? As some who has degenerative disc disease on my L5 and L6, that would be immensely helpful on my training journey

[@daveanjorin1]

Wow, wish I knew all this 12 years ago in high school

[@TA-ep4ni]

i think that full range of motion strengthening the joints and ligaments with the correct way and form

[@_jshanks21j_49]

Thanks for everything 🙌🙌

[@jogabonito7893]

Thoughts on kneesovertoesguy

[@mr.brenman2132]

He also used a electric stimulator for his tendinitis. Maybe you can go into the science of that and if it still holds up.

[@MileHighMinute]

Great insight thank you

[@dandunk76]

Cant wait for the knee code to drop! Love your content

[@elvisochoa1805]

Thanks you very much for this very informative

[@robertoherreraramirez1423]

Damn Paul, really appreciate what you do for athletes, can’t wait to buy the knee code, absolutely need it

[@donnel234]

One of my favorite books. Everyone should definitely read it

[@wursteh5728]

Which book??

[@mbappekylian8560]

You can't tell a person like MJ to rest People with that mentality Don't even think about having a day off

[@anthonylocascio6412]

Lol

[@kkstb97]

Great content !!!!!🔥🔥

[@GA-gm4xq]

In his biography it states he had it since his junior season at unc

[@SummitMedia28]

Love this bro

[@spiralphysiotherapy4196]

Was this the time period after he had a relative deload associated w/ his stress fracture in his foot?

[@ssjluffy135]

Can you talk about healing shin splints especially as a one foot jumper please

[@ItzMxsticTV]

look up knees over toes guy

[@mkq4044]

knees over toes guy

[@andrewkaufman3393]

So how do I know if I have patellar tendonopathy or osgood schlatters and are there differences in how you treat the two?

[@BryanDhillon8]

What's the writing in the background?

[@dashingdreww1185]

Do you think if Jordan did knees over toes training and more like that would it have made his knees better ??

[@arnavarya2098]

These videos 🔥

[@YashSharma-dy1si]

How can one recover from osgood shlatter bump?

[@giovannigiustiniani1355]

What Im interest in is this amazing armchair you are seating on! Could I know the make of it please? Looks wonderful-Thank you

[@gothops2632]

Paul "Favorites"! 😂

[@raveriv8981]

Why are people so against the whole gelatin thing? They say that the body just turns it into amino acids, that it’s impossible to replicate it so that the body will take it in and make it into actual cartilage

[@t0yb0x]

Is jumpers knee and Osgood-Schlatter Disease (OSD) the same?

[@swastikyadav3127]

Yes

[@jostjuice]

NO. It’s a patellar ligament issue overload issue in 2 cases. The ‘os’ is pain referred to pain at the insertion of the patellar ligament at the tibia, the ‘jumper’s knee’ is originally referred to pain ABOVE the knee cap - quad tendon overuse/overload. But the name ‘jumper’s knee’ nowdays is usually understood as pain UNDER the patella, at the origin of the patellar ligament. Hope this clarifies some things.

[@swastikyadav3127]

Thnx man even I didn't know that I thought both were same

[@stijnschaerlaeken7529]

Where can i find this base objectif program you mentioned at the end of this awesome video? Thx i advance

[@juliuspasculado35]

Read that book, its great! If u want to go even deeper on not just the mind, but how the whole human mechanism functions from Mind, body and life energies, take a look at Sadhguru - Inner Engineering. That book will blow ur mind and life away. Its unbelievable

[@alenbozoki8036]

KneeCode coming soon😂

[@nicholaspapa6348]

I know that this is a tendinitis video. But I have had osgood schlatters for 2 years and I’m 16 right now. It’s the worst it’s ever been now. Does anyone have any tips?

[@ricardocarvalho4346]

Strengthen your Tibialis calves vmo and hamstring, lower leg basically

[@antigament]

the truth: is that if you are under 6'5, dunk put a lot of load on your knees and you realize that most under that height avoid dunk in the nba.

[@thetryhard8416]

very useful!!

[@sudarshanplayz7626]

I am having pain near my knee like a jumpers knee I have had injury many tune there and near it. I am currently resting with doing some stretches that my coach told me to do and I am afraid that if I go back and start gradually increasing my load I will injure it even more.please tell me what to do

[@Sdotcurryjr]

What do you think of balance beams for knee health for instance beam tribe

[@globriel6253]

Power of Now

[@arseni.s1595]

What stretches are good for Pattella Tendonitis?

[@aheftekhar]

he has a video on it

[@Brandg1119]

Couch stretch, but you don’t want to over stretch your quad because it’ll weaken it. You to strengthen your quads to get rid of tendinopathy

[@michealaguilar2024]

Give up I’m 2 yrs in and now I did everything bro. My sports days are done and I’m 21

[@fitlifeconrad]

Spanish squats

[@fitlifeconrad]

@@Brandg1119 so you think it’s mainly from weakness of the quads and not ready for all the forces being put on

[@Calaman345]

🔴Solo Dolo podcast is 🔥

[@joshvanslambrouck304]

“The reality is, you don’t know anything” honestly a great quote for a field like this😂😂 biology is complicated

[@fabian7463]

My Dr told me to ice my knee... Fast forward 1month later it got worse.

[@theylovemikell501]

In the last dance Michael said he had tendinitis in his left knee, you didn’t notice?

[@Stevodunker]

Yeah there was a clip of his trainer rubbing his patella tendon with something.

[@jgorman7558]

I also recall a scene where PIPPEN was doing lunges with a trainer and mentioned his patella tendon did not feel great in one leg compared to his other.

[@invyi8662]

@@jgorman7558 what episode?

[@darrencelosse18]

I tryna gain muscle should i buy fat dont fly?

[@Brandg1119]

I have the spur where it attaches to tib for over a year now. I’ve doing Isometrics and collagen for a year and load managing and it still won’t go away. You think it’s worth seeing if I need surgery on it?

[@freedominknowledge8891]

Check out kneesovertoesguy

[@l.a.4232]

Is the gelatin he referring to is a kind of dessert that we usually eat?

[@inokerogoyawa]

He has a video on it...If I remember correctly he ate a gummy and an orange before he did a workout

[@samirsaidi3687]

realy thanx a lot dude thank you

[@jrhodes23]

Jordan was really built different

[@GHETTOTRIPOD34]

Required reading for all of our squids🤔 #squidgrow

[@nasreddinemankour489]

Try New earth

[@bubaba8938]

It's funny how they make up this fictional vision of Basktball great's training more than others sleeping 4 hours a night like they said about Kobe.Than you find out that they also took a lot of rest and didn't train as much as they say

[@garymartin23]

Early in their careers I guarantee they trained the hardest

[@garymartin23]

Actually I believe Kobe done more before 5am in morning than you’ve done in your whole life

[@spiralphysiotherapy4196]

The player really wouldn't care if the pathology is healed though, they only care about whether they can play and perform

[@ajex3861]

Need to re-stock the 🦑 tees !!!

[@TheRoadLessChosen]

I didn’t hear anything to actually help with this other than “how tough are you…” interesting.

[@mixedmartialhoops9299]

so you are saying that i still got chances to become mj

[@Mrtwistedblack]

What I discovered…. I’m a warrior.

[@syeikhaelfatih9429]

Let's go!!

[@ammrzm]

10:00

[@evanbrodtmann5761]

Literally was watching and was like I’m not buying that stupid book. Then 2 min later I bought the book...

[@BigP_]

damn Pauls giving us homework :/

[@Chavanun555]

So even when he had jumpers knee in the 90s he 3peat huh?

[@PJBoy]

Bro that has to be cap. Micheal jordon never suffered any injuries in his prime tho. He was the goat and goats dont get injured

[@SummitMedia28]

Ok bro

[@Balla-ph2rd]

It was an injury he could play thru. He was hurt not injured

[@evergreenthunder]

Broken foot and torn finger ligament.

[@dnzdnf]

damn bro i cant even jump now😭

[@pio7763]

Morant will have similar problems

[@НикитаВасильев-щ7щ]

🔥🔥🔥