10,000 km review CFMOTO 450MT IBEX

[@daveo1446]

good on you brother.. you sound like a down to earth bloke.. im seriously considering buying one of these.. they sound really good..

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@daveo1446 cheers mate 👍

[@stevesanelli90]

Jesus, you're a funny bloke. Down to earth true blue. Good on ya! Smart move keeping it stock. Simple & no bull.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@stevesanelli90 thanks mate

[@grahamrowe6278]

Degsy, many thanks for an everyday, real world review!

[@johnrogers5825]

Mate, what a great review. I haven't seen one bad review yet on that bike. My prediction, the competition will be lifting their game and bringing something similar out because their sales will drop dramatically. I feel you're spot on about Chinese stuff not holding value, but that's why they are cheap, because of cheaper quality materials in manufacture. The positive to that is averaging the price out, so $9k over say ten years is $900 per year. Bingo. Winner winner. Bonus is a couple grand back reselling. A big plus for this bike is long distance rides. This bike can do a thousand k's a day going by other reviews, where before, these distances were in the realm of much bigger bikes.

[@dontlike7399]

Really had fun watching your vid. Thanks a lot!

[@derekandleonie5636]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@adrianwhite7251]

Delighted to see you're stiil pleases with it after 10K. I've 5 more months to wait for delivery into Ireland, so its a reassuring video. 40K valve clearance inspection surprises me. That sounds more like a 4 cylinder Japanese bike. If 40K is appropriate it's another impressive Engineering element to this first gen model. Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching them.

[@derekandleonie5636]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@glennmorrissey2529]

Hi Derek, just wrote to you on your other video. I weigh 105kg so good to see this info from you regarding shocks and weight, also, I mentioned the issue regarding spares being an issue. Good review so thanks.

[@trinkabuszczuk6138]

Having watched lots of reviews on this bike, I now know why they call it the “Unicorn Bike”. It’s because they don’t exist! Zero stock here in Perth, WA.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@trinkabuszczuk6138 that sucks There's a few in Qld at the moment but I think most are waiting for the next shipment.. they're definitely worth the wait

[@The10thManRules]

According to a dealer in VA, the U.S. isn't getting any until December 2024/spring 2025.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@The10thManRules it'll be worth the wait 👍

[@theadventuresofaoneleggedf8352]

Makes sense there not released yet in USA

[@scottnilsson6787]

So glad I got mine when I did❤

[@gzeus6332]

Thanks for the honest review! You gave it such high praise, im looking at getting this as my first bike! Been eyeing the ADV segment for a while, and nothing came up for a decent price and the features i wanted/was comfortable with. Love the looks of the T7, but skeptical about it being my first bike. This came up and reviewers love the 450 Ibex/MT! This was the most down to earth review ive seen of it, and greatly appreciate it. Trying to put a down payment on one at the local dealer soon. They said they should have them by Feb-March for the USA near me. Excellent review and just know you've completely sold me on this 450MT/IBEX! Thanks again!

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@gzeus6332 thanks mate Glad you liked it 👍

[@pucknhusker9426]

im 46yo been riding since i was 4yo I would advise not getting a T7 for your first steed. I've ridden both and the MT sounds like its for you. Enjoy mate

[@gzeus6332]

@@pucknhusker9426 Thanks! Yeah, the T7 is a fantastic looking and performing bike, but man, the heft of it for my 170lb 6ft frame, it doesn't work very well for me haha. Can't wait to sit on the 450MT soon. Would you suggest getting the taller rally seat? Or just keep the standard seat? It'll probably be 60/40 (on-road/light dirt), already plan to get the taller windscreen.

[@howardmann5634]

Got my order in but still not here in the uk nice to see it’s standing up to the punishment carry on

[@derekandleonie5636]

Thanks mate

[@westsidehonda8572]

Hello from across "the ditch" here in New Zealand. Appreciate an honest no bs review!! Very interested to see how good these things are going to be long term but can't expect to much of anything first gen I guess. Another Kiwi has posted a review/ride of these here and it seemed to do okay off-road. Thanks again for sharing good unbiased real world review-if any country is going to test a machine's capability your homeland is definitely going to!! Cheers mate ,have fun and ride safe 😎

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@westsidehonda8572 thanks mate 👍

[@richardjones3112]

Looks like a winner.Don’t worry about depreciation -just keep it.

Thanks for the great review Derek.

[@derekandleonie5636]

My pleasure! Glad it was helpful

[@JohnT81]

This bike is globally the best vfm bike! In Greece you must wait 3 month's..nothing in stock. Cf makes a nice product 👌

[@alexjohnson3696]

Gday from Burnett Heads. Just picked mine up last week and love it. Looking to change the tyres too. Liked and subscribed 👍

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@alexjohnson3696 welcome... We'll have to get out for a.ride seeing as we're almost neighbours 👍

[@pucknhusker9426]

Im a DRZ guy also, rode a MT yesterday. It blows the DRZ out of the water for comfort and smooth riding but my bike has heaps more down low, i can get mine on one wheel in third and struggled to get a clutch up in first on this. But yep defiantly a nice ride, forth fifth and sixth gear are nice.

[@13knots52]

Thanks for the videos around the 450mt buddy ! 👌

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@13knots52 you're welcome 😁

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Very detailed review mate 👍

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 thanks mate 👍

[@philharris5021]

Mine has just done same KS just been offered 7.5k tradein against 800mtx couldn't be more pleased

[@derekandleonie5636]

Hmmmm that's very interesting How much are the quoting you for the mtx?

[@toddwmac]

Thanks and good to hear. Just dropped a deposit on this "beasty" here in the States site unseen (never done that before). However, iI figured that f my mates down under think she's up to the task, I'm in. She should make a good stable mate for my 990 Adventure From Rainbow Beach to the Whitsunday's , I've enjoyed exploring your exciting country multiple times. Next time it will be on a bike. Cheers from the Mountains of Utah.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@toddwmac awesome.. I'm sure you'll enjoy these little beasties 🤣

[@davidrees920]

Good, honest review. Love it, thanks.

[@derekandleonie5636]

Thanks for watching!

[@fireice1997]

If you keep both the cardo and your bike connected to your phone you won’t have that problem. When the music switches over to the bike just hit the pause button and then the play button on your cardo and it switches it back over. You will also be able to still use the buttons on the controls to change the songs. You also won’t have to disconnect and reconnect your cardo to your phone like you have been doing. I have the Cfmoto 450ss and that’s how I get around it

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@fireice1997 thanks for the tip

[@modenamotorsports681]

Thanks for the video. From the manual it seem that the dash has the tires pressure & temp display option, but I don't know which TPMS need to be used on the valves.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@modenamotorsports681 didn't know they had that option... Will have to look into it

[@qalliub]

Thanks for the video! Can you share the link or brand of the cruise control system and TPMS?

[@derekandleonie5636]

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[@hakankaradag4819]

Hello, this is very important. Do the wheels have inner tubes or not ?????????????????

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@hakankaradag4819 yes I am running inner tubes

[@hakankaradag4819]

@@derekandleonie5636 Thank you very much

[@patruoase]

@@derekandleonie5636why?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@patruoase the tyres I like don't have a tubeless option

[@D.E.X]

Another review with a subframe filled with water. I've seen a number of reviews from Australia where they took those subframe members off and dumped a lot of water out of the frame. It makes one wonder where else it is collecting water.

[@derekandleonie5636]

Just that at this stage... CFMOTO has released a fix for this

[@tomdennis1474]

My question may sound like a snipe, but it's not. Wondering why you have a gps mounted under the windscreen as well as a phone. Couldn't you just shove your phone in your pocket and run the comms off the helmet unit. I had my phone mounted to view the gps map, but now I have the bigger IPAD mounted so the phone sits in the pocket..

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@tomdennis1474 I use both.. I use the phone to follow a GPX track and I use the GPS to locate the next town or nearest fuel etc

[@tomdennis1474]

@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks Derek. I guess I need to find out what a GPX track is. Must be something different to what you get on your GPS screen

[@Bob-huisbaas]

Im really interested in this motorcycle as well and just like you i am about 188 cm. How´s the seating with that saddle because i think the standard seat is far to low for us. Did you get increased comfort as well?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@Bob-huisbaas the lower seat didn't bother me but that taller one is definitely better . Comfort is maybe slightly better on the tall seat but both are very comfortable

[@jank-official]

Happy with the seat/bars/pegs triangle at your 6'2" ?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@jank-official I'm 6'2 It's good.. but I wouldn't want it any tighter

[@luaesemog]

Nice review! Any oil consumption?

[@derekandleonie5636]

None at all

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

I thought this bike came stock with crash bars.? 🤔 Hard to keep track of all these different bikes.

[@Noastrenght]

Living the dream mate. Thanks for the real world, unsponsored review XD. Might swap my old Transalp to a 450MT soonish. Do they go a about the same powerwise?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@Noastrenght yes .. it's very similar to the the 650 transalp I had.. just more civilized

[@derekandleonie5636]

I was all set to buy a new Transalp but thought I'd wait for the after market to catch up... Then I saw some videos of having to muck around with rider modes and then the air filter position and decided to give something else a go.. glad I did at this stage

[@Noastrenght]

@@derekandleonie5636 I am waiting for the used T7 prices to come down to a reasonable level. Waiting since 2020, still waiting XD.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@Noastrenght I looked very closely at them but unfortunately the seat was a bit too small for 2 up which we enjoy so I kept looking.. great bikes otherwise 👍

[@blacky8498]

Unfortunately I picked mine up and had it for two days and then had to send it back under warranty. I’m hoping to get it back very shortly

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@blacky8498 oh no.. Hope it isn't anything too serious

[@blacky8498]

@@derekandleonie5636 I noticed oil on the bash plate. Turned out to be a stripped sump plug. Waiting for a new sump.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@blacky8498 that sucks... Thankfully not too serious though

[@martyn_g]

I worked retail in Melbourne for 16 years, and can always tell if someone was a Queenslander- they’ll be rugged up when it was 20 degrees 😉

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@martyn_g yep.. us Queenslanders are built for the cold 🤣

[@safayatjamil2719]

Great video. I do have some questions, mate. Do you think the bike is comfortable enough to tour on? I am planning to go on a 5-country tour. The journey will be mostly on paved road, but will cover hills, dunes and beaches about 25 thousand KMs in total, I'll cover about 600-800Km per day. Is the engine buzzy at 100-120kph? What is the fuel consumption like? cheers

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@safayatjamil2719 it'll be fine I'd recommend a 15 tooth sprocket upgrade for a tour like that and my consumption is around 4.5 litres per hundred km

[@safayatjamil2719]

@@derekandleonie5636 NGL the consumption seems very bad. NX500 does 3.2L/100km. I was hoping it'd go near that number.

[@JamieBroughton70]

What's it like with 15t sprocket as i ride on hume hway for 35ks to work then 35k home plus vic high country on weekends

[@derekandleonie5636]

I prefer it with the 15.. others don't Thankfully it's a cheap enough mod to try and see if it's for you

[@m.knecht5495]

Having just the 1000 km service get done on my 45üMT, the only thing I am a bit wondering is, that the engine temperature so often reaches 90 °C which switches the fan/radiator on. Even today on a 12°C early automn day in Europe.... Had many bikes and brands, but never experienced this in a similar way, means so often having the need the fan to jump in. Anyone observing this as well?

[@derekandleonie5636]

In haven't noticed it so much on this bike .. the super tenere fan probably kicks in more often to be honest

[@hansziegler6691]

​​@@derekandleonie5636der Lüfter läuft auch bei mir fast an jeder Ampel bei 90°C los er ist zwar leise das ist mir auch zu oft im Vergleich zu anderen Marken. Grüße

[@m.knecht5495]

@@hansziegler6691 exakt übereinstimmend mit meiner Beobachtung! Zwar leise, aber leicht feststellbar an den leichten Vibrationen.

[@roadstrom]

You can't beat the super tenere excellent bikes 👍 i considered the MT but yeah there not for me

[@ianrichardson38]

My concern is what it would look like in rainy salted roads northern Europe or US

[@derekandleonie5636]

Good question.. how they'll age is the million dollar question We'll all find out soon enough suppose

[@arianricko100]

How good is on highway with a pillion? I like the bike, but 4-5 times a year I need to go on a highway

[@derekandleonie5636]

I haven't ridden it 2 up yet

[@daveo9844]

Just put a deposit on one. Same as you I’ll replace/ upgrade stuff as needed 🍻

[@derekandleonie5636]

Awesome.. hope you enjoy it as much as I have

[@twowheelin7361]

Will you be upgrading to the new 800MTX?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@twowheelin7361 not at this stage .. I'm really happy with the 2 I have .. but I will have a good look at it when it arrives

[@matthewkirkpatrick5545]

22psi in front. What are psi you running rear?. Waiting on mine to arrive

[@derekandleonie5636]

About the same 24-25 when loaded up with gear

[@lefterisbampaidis5446]

Doesn't the taller seat have extra padding? How is the comfort worse?

[@derekandleonie5636]

It's not worse

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

Im just waiting for the big bois that reach 50k km or 100k now. I know i won't reach that much in 3years warranty but Atleeast it will give me a peace of mind that i would know the possible problems my first bigbike upgrade from 150cc scooter is lol.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 yes.. that's the big question mark about these.. I'm looking forward to finding out how these go long term too

[@michamicha9617]

Do you have any oil consumption by engine ? Or u dont have to fill up engine from service to service ?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@michamicha9617 none that I've noticed

[@IrelandKenya]

Great review, do you still bring it for service to keep warranty? Because it's not an expensive bike, are you doing it yourself? .

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@IrelandKenya no... I leave the servicing to the dealer

[@IrelandKenya]

I just got to that part.. 🤦🏼

[@exonusgod]

How's the bike do on the motorway with the 15t sprocket? Looking at ordering one for my winter commuter bike but felt the stock config was a little weak on the motorway trying to pull over 115kph. Cruising speed here is 130kph so would appreciate your insights.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@exonusgod it's fine on the highway as 450s go

[@exonusgod]

@@derekandleonie5636 thanks!

[@crj7218]

Mi like desde España 🇪🇦, el control de crucero no lo encuentro en eBay, tiene enlace, yo llevo piñón de 16 y espero la centralita para poner una ecu de 52cv

[@derekandleonie5636]

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[@thelonewolf666]

this may be my next bike--- no 24 lol

[@kleitosaliagas5668]

Not really understanding why if this one is ok youpl buy another? Why not just keep this one and add stuff to it?

[@derekandleonie5636]

I mean after this one is worn out

[@RioHelmi]

What's it like two up with luggage?

[@derekandleonie5636]

It could do with a heavier spring with my 110kg weight and a full load camping gear and supplies so I imagine it's know about having 2 people and luggage

[@ziruk-king4466]

How does water get into frame?? The welding areas??

[@derekandleonie5636]

There's a small hole at the top so gets a bit in there when cleaning

[@ziruk-king4466]

@@derekandleonie5636 I would put little bit of gray tape just for wash. Good review -getting back into riding been working for 30 years time flies-not particularly in buying Chinese-but annoying that Japanese don’t get their act together on what the rider wants-oh well-I am putting this as a potential with dr650 or this 450. Thanks for quick reply From Wyoming-u.s.

[@charliefearon7218]

Is the exhaust heat shield home made or off the shelf?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@charliefearon7218 it's a Rhinowalk branded one. I pinched it from my friend but theyre readily available

[@jasonstewart6192]

Where does the water enter the frame?

[@derekandleonie5636]

Up the top there is small holes by the looks... Apparently CFMoto has made a fix for the originals and new ones are already sorted

[@Pedrusko]

​​@@derekandleonie5636Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about preordering one for Feb-March 2025. They are totally out of stock here in Spain. Just 300€ and you can get your bike in 2025 and avoid possible price raises. Greetings from Madrid. 😊

[@1222dan]

Can I ride it at 85mph on the highway for 2 hours to my dirt without blowing it up or vibrating to death?

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@1222dan yep A 15 tooth sprocket upgrade would make that even more comfortable

[@hansziegler6691]

85mph = 8150 rpm

[@kelvinmoffatt934]

All I have to do is save the money and I’m sold on one of these little monsters

[@Mejfkl]

Good info.Tnx

[@panospachatouridis8873]

The bike is great I hope Donald rith not bann cf Moto

[@justgjt]

How do you find the single front disc and caliper for pulling up a 195kg bike + rider + gear as most 200kg + bike are running twin disc front ends ?

[@derekandleonie5636]

I find it to be fine.. but I'm not a fan of real sensitive brakes

[@paradoxworkshop4659]

I don't listen to anything in a car, certainly no need on a bike.

[@derekandleonie5636]

@@paradoxworkshop4659 fair enough... I enjoy my tunes whilst riding and driving

[@theturkishbadger]

I can't ride without music.