I love how on this channel, everyone can have a good time and everyone is so genuine... And can all agree Spaghetti Scameti is revolutionising the watch industry
@Jamie-20043 жыл бұрын
@@perthwatchgirl those damn middlemen...
@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски3 жыл бұрын
@@perthwatchgirl ... while showing you the middle finger ! :D
@Sergeant_Fury3 жыл бұрын
I saw a fake Rolex Submariner the other day that had "DRIVER" instead of "DIVER" on it.
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
Scrubmariner
@cinemenico3 жыл бұрын
Was it 'water hesistant' as well? :P
@Sergeant_Fury3 жыл бұрын
@@cinemenico I wouldn't drink a glass of water while wearing it. I'll ask the guy how much he wants for it.
@terryah21363 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a photo of a "RQLEX"
@giusepperocchi29793 жыл бұрын
@@terryah2136 Well, technically that’s not a fake. It’s like a Steinhart.
@LymanPhillips3 жыл бұрын
I wore my Spaghetti Scametti to a nightclub and I was instantly surrounded by Italian supermodels who admired my luxurious taste in watches. Then I woke up.
@fubaralakbar68003 жыл бұрын
Did you have to wash your sheets?
@Jamie-20043 жыл бұрын
Were people literally stopping you on the streets?
@LymanPhillips3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamie-2004 I was carried through the streets on the shoulders of admirers. That is the power of the Spaghetti Scametti watch. Your mileage may vary.
@filthyrethuglicans30003 жыл бұрын
DON'T REACH UP THOSE SKIRTS!!!!!!!
@grmpf3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, one can only dream of owning a Spaghetti Scameti.
@benh7153 жыл бұрын
I love the placement of the date on that last watch. So stylishly slightly off centre. Such a bold design choice.
@thetruebatman46322 жыл бұрын
New to the channel, I hit my mid-thirties and started this fascination with high quality, non pretentious watches. It’s very refreshing to hear Ben, who is obviously very passionate and knowledgeable about watches, appreciate watches based on their craftsmanship and value instead of the brand name and unreasonable price tag. Most of these watch channels I’ve looked through like to think that you can’t sit at the table for less than a thousand dollars. Love my G-Shocks and Eco-Drives, can’t wait to check out some Seikos now. Thanks for indulging my fascination!
@TheBotleyBoy2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at old automatic Seikos from the 60s and early 70s as some of them are the most beautiful watches out there with timeless designs, in my opinion. There's the downside in that an old one might be overdue a service, but even with that factored in, you're still spending less than £350 in most cases. I'm also in my mid-thirties.
@thetruebatman46322 жыл бұрын
@@TheBotleyBoy interesting. I’ve been warned away from vintage watches just as most probably have, but I took a leap on an old 1980’s middle eastern Citizen day date that looked fun (of course I got it and it’s way too small, i’m 6’4” and wear 42-44mm and this is maybe 36), but it’s really cool and keeps great time. It’s interesting that I can hear the rotor. No problems so far so i’m not opposed to vintage, i’ll look into your recommendations and I appreciate them.
@TheBotleyBoy2 жыл бұрын
@@thetruebatman4632 I nearly bought an 80s Citizen automatic not so long ago. It was a lovely watch and had a very small red eagle on the dial face, if I remember correctly (or some bird of prey). Nice choice. Same with my two 1960s Seikos, really. The first arrived in great condition and keeping time brilliantly despite its age. The history of the watch was unknown so I wanted to get it serviced ASAP for my peace of mind that it'd continue to run so well. The jeweller called the next day and said it didn't need it as it was apparent to him it'd had one very recently and had been looked after throughout the years. As for my other Seiko, again, works great with no issues but I'll book it in for a service in the new year just to be on the safe side. Anyway, happy watch collecting and have a great Christmas 👍
@thetruebatman46322 жыл бұрын
@@TheBotleyBoy You’re speaking of the exact same Citizen watch I have; the dial on mine is red and if it were bigger I’d put it on a mesh bracelet and wear the heck out of it. I’ve had my finger on the Seiko trigger for a while but I just haven’t ever pulled it I guess. I would love to grab some of their older divers, even some of the 90’s models really tickle my fancy. Hey Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! I guess there still are good people wherever you look, just have to look a little harder in some places 🤣
@EliteOfTheRad Жыл бұрын
hilarious, "I hit my mid-thirties and started this fascination with high quality, non pretentious watches." that describes me to a T hahaha
@hriship46023 жыл бұрын
The ending was really well done
@popezosimusthethird2693 жыл бұрын
Standing ready for the grand reveal of Spaghetti Scametti's next lineup for the 100th video.
@UncleSkiBum3 жыл бұрын
Maybe an announcement for the Grand Spaghetti Scametti?
@tedblack24153 жыл бұрын
Lol love the ending.
@MyAffordableWatchCollection3 жыл бұрын
Great list Ben, loads of value there! My favorite is the Spaghetti Scametti too, can't wait for mine to never arrive 👌🏻
@justme79203 жыл бұрын
At 100k Mr. Ponzi will release the Pizzeti Scameti.
@snakesanders88533 жыл бұрын
And at 500k we will be getting the Scameo Fakeotini
@aghostofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Got the lorus after your video. It is on basically all the time now! Thanks!
@jh565bb3 жыл бұрын
Got to love a lorus, whilst they aren't the best you can buy, they really do well at their price range. I have a lorus sport, cheap but bombproof.
@fredfour03 жыл бұрын
You can't just say "top 10 casio list" without knowing we'll want that
@labnine33623 жыл бұрын
Those who do want that list, already have it in their own minds. ;)
@whatsguccivespucci43793 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe your production quality. You’re going to the moon
@angrybanana62233 жыл бұрын
I'm biased as I own one but the Bambino is a stunner. The smaller Orient dress watches are also incredible.
@chris-vn6sw2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Lorus after watching your review above a year ago from Argos £30. Never dropped a beat ! 👏👏
@topgazza3 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived, for a week now, with my new but preowned Seiko 5 SNZH 57 that you mentioned in the Vostok review. Your quick comment on the 57 intrigued me. I tracked a new one on eBay from a seller I knew so that was a happy coincidence. I’ve had the watch for a week on a leather strap, my preferred strap on all my watches except an Oris F1 watch with a rubber strap. What a gorgeous comfortable watch and it’s automatic action is just fantastic. I’m delighted for £155 I also bought the Lorus from FH Hinds this week for £49 and you are so right. What a ridiculously gorgeous watch for the money
@nigelmcmorris90963 жыл бұрын
The Spaghetti Scametti plug was hilarious. I felt a touch of nostalgia, when I though back on the original video. Great stuff, Ben.
@korvengriffin47563 жыл бұрын
I wish you had 100k subs. I saw your first vid, and have never missed one... It´s not the watches ( I like the more pricy stuff) it´s you that makes it entertaining. Keet up the great work.
@JoeMenjivar3 жыл бұрын
some might say these were better than a rolex, especially the last one.
@Zanarax2 жыл бұрын
got the bambino v3 yesterday in black. Its my first ever real watch, and I LOVE it,
@turnerlarson123 жыл бұрын
I picked up a Boldr Venture about a month ago. I'm not a fan of NATO straps so I put it on a Barton silicone strap and it instantly became my new favorite watch. The only gripe that I have is you either have to get one of the weird special editions or the cluttered looking Wayfarer model if you want a dial with a date window
@samfallow183 жыл бұрын
I hope there is a glass back on the Scametti. I could look at that for hours. Meanwhile... still waiting for my Lineage to arrive from Japan.
@CY-qg2sc3 жыл бұрын
Bought that Vostok Komandirskie after watching your original video on it last year. It is a great watch and I love it. I pretty much wear it 24/7.
@richardseaton6390 Жыл бұрын
Just a really genuine info-packed video. Thanks Ben, keep up the good work sir.
@Tom_H3272 жыл бұрын
Although I do have enough credit to afford a Rolex or a Brietling, I don't think I'll ever go for one. I just prefer cheaper more robust, easier to service or throwaway watches. This comes from years of being in a career field where watches are necessary and easily busted/broken. I'm retired now though but I still love watches that show value but also won't depress me if it gets smashed. My most expensive watch is a Hamilton Khaki Diver that I paid $600 for from a reputable AD. My other watches are sub $100 dollars. Love your content Ben! Keep up the great work!! 👍🤩
@IansModRite3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how you’re so committed to the bit that you actually had Scametti’s made to show off 😂😂
@64bit-3 жыл бұрын
yoooo spaghetti scameti gotta love that italian luxury
@giovebe10 ай бұрын
I propose a new line of Spaghetti Scameti watches: the "Balsamico". Only with dark brown or black dial, of course. btw. fantastic video as usual.
@NicolasPatate3 жыл бұрын
I have the Lorus since october and this is a really great watch,
@thewatchfemme40513 жыл бұрын
Wearing my Casio EFV-110D right now! It’s my absolutely favorite quartz and it’s white dial is captivating.
@richpontone13 жыл бұрын
I always do Quartz and not Automatic watches. I love my Citizen and Seiko Ecco Drives, as long as you keep them exposed to the Sunlight. I love my Invicta Diver watches, as long as they are under 100 bucks. Nothing fancy. I have had them for about 10 years and they keep on ticking as long as you put batteries in them. I do them myself and you buy the batteries cheap on Amazon. The Invictas are cheaper to buy on Amazon too. Great watch to show off. But as a Senior Citizen, I love a digital watch with large numbers, date, time, alarm, and day of the week, with a light that I push a button to see the display. Great when you are in a dark space like a movie, or concert and especially, useful when you wake up in the middle of the night. For these latter watches, I buy on Amazon, a Chinese made one, with very high positive user reviews. Usually purchasable for about 12 bucks. The batteries last a year, and when that happens, I throw the watch away, and buy another. Best bargain ever and very, very useful.
@kheldaur21073 жыл бұрын
One of the best watch channels. Great content
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm3 жыл бұрын
Great piece! Happy anniversary!
@terminator15623 жыл бұрын
its always a good day when ben uploads a video
@fyioska3 жыл бұрын
I bought the SNK361 after seeing your comparison and love it. I couldn't get on with my SNKL23 due to the long lugs but the 361 is proportioned perfectly.
@natnoiloikor9893 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your channel for years, good journey for me...Keep up the good work Mr. ben! Lots of love from Thai fans here! 💗
@icalexander3 жыл бұрын
That ending LMAO XD. Well played!
@SmallLab1292 жыл бұрын
I tend to watch videos while working, so only really half paying attention. I will admit the last part actually pulled my attention back with a WTF?. Nice.
@chris-vn6sw3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Lorus field watch on your recommendation. Been a brilliant daily wear 👍👍
@shaylbush52403 жыл бұрын
I bought the lyle & Scott automatic watch after your review and it is now currently one of my favorites
@peterrrr3 жыл бұрын
So it's been 4 months since I ordered my Spaghetti Scameti, still waiting for it to arrive but my friends already asking about it. The admirers are truly going insane over it. And they didn't even see it!! I'd say it is truly better than Rolex.
@buying_Time2 жыл бұрын
1:52 you can always wear your nato with just one strap underpassing. There are a couple of ways to achieve that. I just did a very basic video on how I prefer to wear my natos on my 5.9" wrist, without the bulky excess strap-on the side of your wrist and one extra strapholder to boot.
@buying_Time2 жыл бұрын
Here is the link for whoever is interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnq8nmx5ndmeeqc Please note that I am not here to advertise my channel. I have basic videos without production quality. It is just that I find that there are way to few channels catering to watch enthusiasts with slim wrists like yours and mine and there are some easy things that you can do that enhance comfort and possibilities in wearing watches.
@philtullos38233 жыл бұрын
Excellent surprise twist ending! 😆
@RaineyPowerTraining3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Lorus field watch and it has been great!
@ozan30763 жыл бұрын
When and where did you bought it? Couldnt find one at a retail price
@RaineyPowerTraining3 жыл бұрын
@@ozan3076 I bought it on Amazon. Was $80
@ozan30763 жыл бұрын
@@RaineyPowerTraining thanks, thats a bit more than I am willing to pay
@RaineyPowerTraining3 жыл бұрын
@@ozan3076 yeah, cheapest I could find. Price of it went up after Covid for some reason
@ozan30763 жыл бұрын
@@RaineyPowerTraining good watch nonetheless, wear it in good health
@dreadshape69722 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video. Could you please tell me what kind of strap at the time stamp 3:02 it is? I looks really good.
@giuliogemino64072 жыл бұрын
LW-204-1BEF 1 resistance to immersion in water 50 meters 5 bar 2 effective backlight in the dark or dim, the display reads really well 3 countdown function (which the other does not have) 4 improved alarm set function and flashing 5 slightly larger display characters 6 recessed adjust button, it is impossible to lose the setting accidentally 7 larger and more accessible keys 8 case without sharp edges lozenges and frames = less collection of dirt = less friction and entanglement with hair and clothing sleeves = more comfort in prolonged use. 9 slightly longer strap if needed at large wrists the W-202-1AVEF is the direct and updated "competitor" of the F91W if you roughly like that style with the writing and blue border ... it takes it up a lot, it is similarly more of a daily work watch. The LW-204-1BEF is better and particular than the W-202 from which it derives for an advanced and clean minimalism of the display (the display is also inverted) and the totally smooth strap. It is a watch that could easily be used with discretion even on more elegant and formal occasions without jarring.
@SlimDonni3 жыл бұрын
Ben, I find you one of the Most Honest reviewers, I wish you made more content then you do. Anyways I have a Question, what do you think of Rotary watches? I can't find anyone who has one in their SOTC or have heard anyone say Good/Bad about the brand. The ones I have seen on Amazon look pretty nice looking watches. Would love to hear your thoughts. Peace Out. Ps. I'm New to watch collecting.
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you'll find out in a future review haha!
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@daniellondon63103 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, Great video. I think it is worth mentioning Lorus is owned by Seiko. That is almost a guarantee of at least acceptable quality. And maybe one day, you could reviews a Pulsar watch that are also owned by Seiko and are affordable. I know you are big Casio fan. Me too. I own a Casio F800/. But, have you considered reviewing a Digital Timex? I have two candidates Command Urban 47mm Silicone Strap Watch Timex Command 47mm Silicone Strap Watch
@WatchWitt3 жыл бұрын
Cool to see Vostok on the list!
@smurfyday2 жыл бұрын
What a difference a year makes.
@deffury3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, please do Alba brand. Its popular in Asia but we don't have any expert review of these watches. Thanks.
@JasonTheWatchGuy3 жыл бұрын
Love the Kommy, bulletproof and vintage, got to love it!
@believehkltd3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Citizen C7. Inspired from the 60's and 70's Crystal Seven line. Ordinarily I buy more expensive watches. But I am blown away by the value for money of this watch. BEN, PLEASE DO A REVIEW!!! So much so, I bought another one in a different color! Would recommend them to anyone on a budget.
@markdenney39033 жыл бұрын
I am already subscribed but I would do it again like 20 times to get my hands on Mr. Ponzi's Spahetti Scametti. Loved it. Keep up the good videos Ben and Cheers from a future buyer. I will have to send you one of my custom watches one day. to really let you see something.
@cinemenico3 жыл бұрын
lol the 'eliminated middleman box'. xD
@richardhalls34843 жыл бұрын
Ill be putting you to the test Ben. I bought the Seiko SRPG37K to replace my 10 year Citizen Chandler 818 and ill say the Seiko is not even close to a real feild watch, After trying to use it for a month I gave up. im a golf course superindendent constatnly outdoors, wet, chmical splashes, sand, mud, tools and the Seiko didnt sit well it wears way larger than its 39mm and feels top heavy was constatnly needing to adjust it and found i was removing it often to get my work done. So still needing a watch I did some research and found this chanel your review of the SPRG37K and the trir list vid where you mentiond the Citizen Chandler being the only good citizen was so true to my own experinces I almost bought another Citizen, But then saw the Boldr review, took a risk and bought the venture balck so far so good, it lines up perfectly with your review I took notice of the nato comments and got the Boldr rubber strap and it does make the watch sit lower and it never moves all day i can do anything with this watch on and not notice it. I do miss the day date window form my chandler. And you are right the crown is perfectly placed and grippy, but, it might be too grippy as it has un-wound itslef a couple of times during the day. Thanks for the chanel
@nvc.3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I love your videos
@sheilastallard3 жыл бұрын
Well worth the wait for the end!!! Going to order my hubby one for his birthday his 67 so if I order now it should be here for his 70th, don't you think? Stay Safe and stay scammed with Spaghetti Scametti!
@kroon2753 жыл бұрын
I got the Lorus in day/date form recently from Argos for £20 Amazing lumibrite and cool looking watch my wife took a liking to it before i even wore it, so i guess we are sharing it already lol.
@flameadon3 жыл бұрын
I unironically want a spaguetti scametti
@vividvulpe98423 жыл бұрын
lol, same
@labnine33623 жыл бұрын
I'm Sicilian and can handcraft you one out of recycled tomato paste cans for the right price.
@GamingKav3 жыл бұрын
On the back of both this video and the original review, I’ll be picking up the Casio Lineage (LCW-M100TSE-1AER) for my birthday. Thanks Ben! 👍
@davidtrachtenberg70953 жыл бұрын
Of all the watches I have, I seem to reach for my $50 grey Timex Expedition most often. Nice orange second hand, grey Barton strap. 36mm for my smaller wrist.
@mailokirmes43503 жыл бұрын
There's a different way of applying your natostrap to your watch. When you put the watch on the long end so that the buckle of thr short end sits centered unter the watch, you can put the watch on, then put the long end into the buckle of the short end, and then close the strap completely. By using this technique you have the two layers on the underside of your wrist instead of under the watch, thus lowering the profile a little bit.
@larryfromwisconsin99703 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. Here in the USA I cannot find that Casio A700 on a mesh strap or any bracelet. I looked a few weeks ago when you first reviewed it and again today.
@jordanjerrardjoy23083 жыл бұрын
Can u do a review of the tissot visdate? Would love to watch that!
@acomingextinction3 жыл бұрын
Subbed for the Spaghetti Scameti. NEED to get in on the ground floor of this world changer.
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
REVOLUTIONARY
@Eikenhorst Жыл бұрын
I do like that also the date is misaligned on that Spaghetti Scametti. And that the date is clearly in a different font than the logo. It is that attention to detail that really counts. Many brands misalign their second hand, but how many do the same for their date? You can look at this for hours and find new flaws constantly. I would have liked to see some misalignment in the dots at each 5min interval, but hopefully they are made out of a fake gemstone and one of them will fall out after a month or so.
@oscarosullivan45133 жыл бұрын
9:36 Very hard to imagine you had a haircut like that
@webflys3 жыл бұрын
Review the most incredible Yugo cars too! Can’t wait! 😅
@bobbygasparakis66973 жыл бұрын
I have an SNK361 on black calfskin. It's simple, and calls no attention to itself. Winner all around.
@manoflego1233 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Spaghetti Scametti is insane value for money! Middlemen for generations will tremble at the very mention of this "affordable" "Italian" "luxury" "watch".
@briganfree36563 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am now off to check out the current prices of then Casio M100 TSE and the Seiko SNK 361.
@CasperTheGhost642 жыл бұрын
I have the Orient open heart bambino. It's amazing. I love it so much. I showed it to the guys on r/watches and they loved it too
@sotitofanschop3 жыл бұрын
The seiko SRPA25 should make it there too. Looks amazing in person, really really nice dial and has the updated hacking and manual winding 4R35.
@chrispenn7152 жыл бұрын
Still saving for my grail watch - the Spaghetti Scametti
@haruruben3 жыл бұрын
1:30 I like this surface finish
@DaniBoy-pc9zq3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious ending! Good job :)
@Olddirtytiger3 жыл бұрын
All scams prices end in 7 ......its little details like that that keep us watching Ben good job great vid
@AliasEveWatches3 жыл бұрын
I want all of them! Including Spaghetti Scametti.
@padibuz2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, Thank you for the video! Hoping you still read comments on a 8 month old video, can you please tell me what strap you are using while shooting the Orient Open Heart? The brown leather one. It looks stunning! Thank you!
@bmjames Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I think I had that Lorus - but possibly in the women's size to suit my tiny wrist.
@miticoCharlieBrown3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thanks a lot for your videos! What do you think about Bertucci field watches?
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
Just got one of those in for review. Will let you know when I eventually get round to it, likely will make a video 👍
@miticoCharlieBrown3 жыл бұрын
@@BensWatchClub Thank you so much! They really look rugged and tough at a reasonable price.
@Jamie-20043 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion. Ben, could you do a video on good watch straps for watches as well as there is a watch i got myself as an early 17th birthday present back in late April, it is the "Citizen Men's Eco-Drive Analogue Green Canvas Strap Watch". That's the name of it in Argos and it is on sale atm at £69.99. It is solar powered and has 100m water resistant with a simple, yet nice looking dial.
@Jamie-20043 жыл бұрын
@@1954Antony on mine, the lume isn't too great and the movement isn't great either, however taking into account its a citizen eco drive that has 100m water resistant, it makes it hella good value
@shrey17473 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben! really like your videos. Please make a video on Titan Edge
@MaximRecoil3 жыл бұрын
9:43 - "The version three that I reviewed had a minimalist contemporary look." Contemporary? Watches with that basic look have been around since at least the 1960s. Look up pictures of a 1960s or 1970s Hamilton Thinline, Sea Breeze II, or 19001-3 for example, or a Tissot Seastar Seven.
@scottlauren31453 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Keep up the good work, dude. Does the Lorus come in an automatic movement? If so I will scoop one up immediately!
@BensWatchClub3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that model doesn't as far as I am aware Scott, though they have recently started introducing watches with Seiko automatics into their range, so perhaps they will further down the line?
@lapintos773 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, great video. I am quite new in the watch’s world. I enjoyed your reviews and explanations. Waldor & CO shows often in publicity on the web as I am concerned. It would be great if you can do a review of some of those if you can. I don’t find much about this brand. But in first place, they look pretty nice. Thanks
@thefloridaman65272 жыл бұрын
I have the newer version of the Lorus and it's very nice in person 😁 although I would have preferred the older dial as shown in the video. The new one has the "3" that's cut off by the date window.
@supratikbute91203 жыл бұрын
Bro, i think you should review some of the watches from TITAN. It is an Indian brand and it is one of the best i would say ❤️
@parkashjha13 жыл бұрын
Sahi bola bhai
@adamsterdam9049 Жыл бұрын
Is this watch still available in this color? I can only find blue ones
@watsondna3 жыл бұрын
congrats on the 2 year!
@Melonos Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Great content
@gianlucabassi88533 жыл бұрын
The grey Dial bambino in 36mm version would be a fantastic Watch
@aidanisan2 жыл бұрын
Haha loved the ending bro good one :D:D
@giuseppecardia17803 жыл бұрын
Hi ben! What camera did you use? Love to watch your videos
@andreclaxton34593 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a review on the Momentum Atlas 38mm. Titanium case, sapphire crystal, seiko quartz, under $200. Curious how it stacks up with the Lorus and Boldr.
@Ileanapros3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, what do you think of Aboutvintage watches? Its aesthetic is similar to that of Sternglass but haven't seen much online of its quality. Would be curious of your take on that brand and its watches
@Harpreet062 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, do you have a top 10 casio watch video?
@irishhawk13 жыл бұрын
Can you do something on the Oakley Watches?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR3 жыл бұрын
Nice selection Ben. I love the ending of the video too. You'll have to hook me up with a contact to get one 😉
@zillsburyy13 жыл бұрын
lorus lumibrite is the best full lume dial for the money